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But all that aside, Rush’s statement about Fox’s medication is still…pointless.  It was a dumb thing to say.

Rob is picking on the hearing impaired! Oh, the humanity!

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You are right.  The Left has brought out victims to evoke sympathy and to try and deflect criticism.  The Right is doing it as well in South Dakota, bringing out women who have had an abortion and now saying that it was the worst days of their lives.  They go on to say that they lost a baby and can’t get over it.  I guess that either Right or Left will use any tactic to get sympathy.

His medication comes into play only because it changes his quality of life.  His argument about finding a cure for Parkinson’s is made better if it appears that the disease is debilitating.  His shaking demonstrates that.  However, if the shaking subsides when he is on his medication, then the effectiveness of the point he is making is lost.  His quality of life is still impacted by the disease but to a much lesser extent.

I’m not sure that what the right is doing with the women who regret their abortions is quite the same thing.

Personally, I don’t have a problem with using “spokespeople” like the women who regret their abortions…or Fox or Sheehan or Murtha.  What I don’t like is when people say you can’t criticize these people’s positions without personally attacking them.

So while Republicans use sympathy-evoking spokespeople, I don’t think they claim anyone who criticizes these people is attacking them personally.

The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

I agree, I was listening to him at the time and thought he should have not in effect challenge him on his disease.

If I was Rush I would have shamed the lefties for using Fox like that.

By the way the important thing in all of this is that Embryonic Stem Cell research is not banned by any means.  It’s completely legal.

The big government types want to fund all kinds of non-productive types for 20-30 years.  Maybe they’ll come up with something or maybe they won’t. 

Or maybe the Europeans will come up with the techniques anyway and we’ll get the benefit from that.

Either way they shouldn’t imply that research is illegal.

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Janet Reno pulled the same trick when her policies where questioned.

No Free Lunch

Who’s the worst Attorney General, Janet Reno or Ramsey Clark?

Gotta sleep on that one.

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Rob,

If a woman says this:

Have you ever felt like a vapor?  A mere mist dissolving in the life surrounding you?  No real substance.  Empty.  Invisible.  Just a vapor.  A vapor is how my abortion left me.

And an ad says that this woman’s abortion was a gift granted to her.  Can you honestly say that no one would say that you are victimizing this person again?  Or how about that she exercised the greatness of America: her right of choice.  You’d get slammed from everyone who is pro-life.

On Fox, I believe that he did a spot in 2004 for Sen. Arlen Spector.  Yes, he wasn’t shaking as bad as 2006, but he was shaking.  Where were the people right of center, or Rush, saying that it was wrong to be using Fox like that?

He campaigned for Specter?  How low can he go?

Just for that I’m burning all of my Back to the Future VCR tapes.

1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

And an ad says that this woman’s abortion was a gift granted to her.  Can you honestly say that no one would say that you are victimizing this person again?  Or how about that she exercised the greatness of America: her right of choice.  You’d get slammed from everyone who is pro-life.

If a woman is in the ad talking about how she felt after an abortion of her own free will…how on earth could you say that she’s being “victimized again?”

I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make.

As I said in the post, what Rush said about Fox was stupid.  He may have even been right, but it was shallow and had no point.

The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

The point is that they are saying this:

Leslee Unruh has taken what she calls a feminist approach, arguing that legalized abortion exploits women and — for their sake — must be stopped.

The anti-abortion camp is alleging that the right to chose a legal, safe abortion “exploits women,” UPI reports. Leslee Unruh, a campaign manager for South Dakota’s anti-abortion activists, told the Los Angeles Times, “We women buy the choice line. We’re panicked , or we’re being pressured,” but that “if you don’t do your job right as a mother, what good is anything else?”

Unruh’s logic echoes that of the South Dakota Task Force to Study Abortion by arguing that choosing an abortion is against the nature of women. The task force’s report claimed that a woman would never freely choose abortion because to do so would violate “the mother’s fundamental natural intrinsic right to a relationship with her child,” the American Prospect reports.

So according to that statement, it is men that are forcing women to get an abortion and exploiting them.  That is a load of crock.  So if I criticize anyone that supports Leslee Unruh, I could be seen as victimizing the women again.  At least that is the way that I see it.

Back to Michael J Fox; when you are producing anything on film or video, you control everything in the frame.  If the producer hadn’t wanted him all shakey, they would have filmed it when he wasn’t.  They wanted exactly what was on that commercial; otherwise it wouldn’t have been released; it isn’t a crapshoot, it’s cold calculated to produce an effect.  The shaking was probably real, but they didn’t have to film him that way.  That is the slimy part.  It was intentional.  Fox himself could have stopped the filming if he hadn’t wanted to appear that way.  He undoubtedly has the power to do that.  He wanted it, and that’s why we saw it.  When he is acting, he doesn’t want to appear that way, so we never see it.  This was a cynically manipulated effort to influence an election.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

In My Memoir I wrote:

Snippets of my testimony were featured on several of the nightly news broadcasts. One line in particular from my prepared statement got a lot of play: “In my forties, I can expect challenges most people wouldn’t face until their seventies and eighties, if ever. But with your help, if we all do everything we can to eradicate this disease, when I’m in my fifties I’ll be dancing at my children’s weddings.” I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

Now I’d NEVER EVER skip my meds before appearing in a commercial advocating for the public funding of research I believe will cure my disease, making it a constitutional right in the state of Missouri to clone a human being, and encouraging the sale of eggs for experimenation.  How DARE Rush accuse me of doing something I’ve openly admitted to doing in the past for dramatic affect.  You EEEEEVIL Republicans can never question those of us on the left when we make political statements.  What we said in the past is OFF LIMITS!  We get to beat you up relentlessly for suggesting we’re doing something we’ve done before!

If you put yourself in the political arena - the very public arena of mass media endorsements - don’t whine when someone takes you to task for your stance. Playing “look at me, look at me” is a game the thin skinned needs to avoid.

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Oh, that is just so cutsey. Try being original next time.

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Not you, Pil! You are always original.

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Gotcha, Hotel. Knew what you meant.

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I applaud Michael J. Fox’s decision to appear without his medications.  How can we know what the disease does to a person if it is controled by medication.  How can he get his message across if we can’t see his syptoms?  I am anti human cloning and and the use of eggs for research but I got the message.  Michael and countless others need a solution to the disease.  I don’t care if he’s Democrat or Republican.  He’s sick and wants to help find a cure.  I also feel Rush’s statement was stupid.. but who hasn’t made a stupid remark from time to time.  In my humble opinion… politics and research for cures don’t mix.  We should all be looking for the same result.  Rather than all this sniping and backbiting.

I applaud Michael J. Fox’s decision to appear without his medications.

The problems with that are manifold: First, he wasn’t advocating directly for his preferred research; he was doing a hit piece on a politician, for the benefit of another politician; Second, most of what he said was untrue, so that makes what he did dishonest and manipulative; and Three, he deliberately appeared the way he did, as I have explained above, for maximum manipulative effect.
If he had been strictly advocating a cure for Parkinson’s, I would have had no problem with what he did, and Rush probably wouldn’t have, either.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

nice humble reply, Carol.

Why do Republicans hate science?

Somehow blastocysts in a petri dish, literally undifferentiated clumps of cells, have to be given the same kind of moral concern, have the same interests, the same…no one even talks about suffering, but presumably we’re worried about their experience at some level, and that the interest of these cells trump the interests of 8 year old girls with diabetes or 40 year old men with Parkinson’s.

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/10/michael_fox_wit.html

It’s not that we hate science…it’s just that we don’t support scientific research that is unethical.  Killing human embryos for the sake of research isn’t right, especially when the same sort of research can be conducted using stem cells from other sources.  Like umbilical cords, etc.

And let’s not get silly about who does and does not oppose stem cell research.  All the President has done is prevent government money from being spent on the research.  There are still millions being spent on it in the private sector, and if it were really as promising as you’d have us believe there would likely be billions more invested into it.

This is all a big charade.

The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Libs just want another boondoggle to employ scientists too lazy to to justify their work.

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Yeah, who needs cures for diseases anyway?! Lazy fucking scientists, always wasting time on research. Kill ‘em all!! Save the babies*!!

*And by babies, of course I mean the left over cells from in vitro fertilization which will be discarded otherwise.

Chad please quit implying that the research isn’t legal and actually going on.

This is only about getting ANOTHER finger in our pockets.

1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
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Yeah, who needs cures for diseases anyway?!

All the money spent on embryonic stem cell research so far has not resulted in a single positive result, much less anything resembling a cure.  It is so unproductive that all the private money has flowed to adult stem cell research, which doesn’t require abortion to make it work.  The only real subject here is whether we should allow the govt to confiscate our money for a worthless cause, so that fat-cat researchers can keep their jobs, while not having to produce anything worthwhile.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Exactly. Like everything esle, if it doesn’t line the pockets of republicans directly, they’re not interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kch4HPkStlI

The people making the promises about Stem Cell research should invest their own money.

How about Michael J Fox?  How much money does he have?  Why has he not put HIS money where HIS mouth is? 

He would be able to “save” his life and probably make a handsome profit, if what he says is true.

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10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

Exactly. Like everything esle, if it doesn’t line the pockets of republicans directly, they’re not interested.

A completely nonsensical statement.  I notice you linked to YouTube; if a video advocates conservative ideas, they censor it.  Nice going.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

So many blatant lies, it’s difficult to know where to begin.

http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp

“There are currently several limitations to using adult stem cells. Although many different kinds of multipotent stem cells have been identified, adult stem cells that could give rise to all cell and tissue types have not yet been found. Adult stem cells are often present in only minute quantities and can therefore be difficult to isolate and purify. There is also evidence that they may not have the same capacity to multiply as embryonic stem cells do. Finally, adult stem cells may contain more DNA abnormalities—caused by sunlight, toxins, and errors in making more DNA copies during the course of a lifetime. These potential weaknesses might limit the usefulness of adult stem cells.”

Somehow blastocysts in a petri dish, literally undifferentiated clumps of cells, have to be given the same kind of moral concern, have the same interests, the same…

If they possess human DNA, yes.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

I love irony.  It’s my favorite quality.  And one of the most breath-taking demonstrations of irony is the on-going hypocrisy of those on the Left.

There is absolutely no scientific evidence that embryonic stem cell research will prove any more fruitful than research using adult stem cells, or that lifting the ban on federal spending on stem cell research beyond that authorized for the existing lines would be successful either.

But the same leftards who are now braying that we should charge ahead anyway, despite the lack of evidence that the effort would be successful, are the very ones who have spent the past 20 years arguing that we ought not to be spending money on anti-ballistic missile research specifically because there is (in their estimation) insufficient evidence that such a system can be made to work effectively.

Indeed, to this day, many on the left are convinced that the only problem with a nuclear-armed, ICBM-capable North Korea is the fact that the Bush administration has refused to unilaterally accommodate the Korean madman.  That these people arguing out of both sides of their mouths simply escapes them.

Quite aside from the fact that it is positively anti-American to state that we cannot do something merely because it is difficult or has never been accomplished before, this sort of partisan drivel is truly a case of hypocrisy writ large.

“How about Michael J Fox?  How much money does he have?  Why has he not put HIS money where HIS mouth is? 

He would be able to “save” his life and probably make a handsome profit, if what he says is true.”

And Whistler posted this AFTER, my comment about republicans lining their pockets. Nice. For some people, you just can’t put a monetary value on human suffering. For some people, it’s not always about making a buck…that is of course unless you’re a republican.

I notice you linked to YouTube; if a video advocates conservative ideas, they censor it.  Nice going.

Yes it’s the great liberal conspiracy again. The media is liberal. Hollywood is liberal. The internet is liberal. All of these things are liberal, despite the fact that everyone in America is conservative…

Or, the more simple and likely answer, conservatives are the crackpot minority.

And Whistler posted this AFTER, my comment about republicans lining their pockets. Nice. For some people, you just can’t put a monetary value on human suffering. For some people, it’s not always about making a buck…that is of course unless you’re a republican.

Nice distraction post.  I’m glad you friends of the working man are ok with Millionaire Michael J Fox not spending money on his own cure while extorting money from working families.

I would suggest that you lefties get together and form your own investment fund.  You can spend YOUR money any way you want to.  Why is it that you aren’t willing to invest your money but your are willing to steal ours?

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10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

There is absolutely no scientific evidence that embryonic stem cell research will prove any more fruitful than research using adult stem cells, or that lifting the ban on federal spending on stem cell research beyond that authorized for the existing lines would be successful either.

Let me see, who’s opinion should I trust on this topic, you, or the vast numbers of genetic research scientists who say otherwise? Tough call…

The rest of your comment devolves into a garbled mess of half-formed thoughts which don’t pertain to the topic at hand, so I’m not going to waste my time on it.

Hmmm.

Let’s see:

On one side of the debate, we have a beloved star of movies and television advocating ‘controversial’ research to finding a cure for a horrific disease which he and hundreds of thousands of Americans are fighting this very moment.

On the other side of the debate, we have a drug abusing hatemonger known to visit the Dominican Republic on Viagra-infused jaunts with child sex-slaves, cynically casting doubts as to the honesty of said beloved star’s advocacy.

Michael J. Fox versus Rush Limpbough, who to believe, who to believe?

If it helps any of you with a moral compass decide who shares your moral compass’s magnetic north, here is Limpbough making fun of someone with Parkinson’s:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/25/olbermann-gives-us-the-visual-to-limbaughs-attack-on-michael-j-fox/

To reach any lower, conservatives would have to exhume Christopher Reeve’s corpse and have Ann Coulter throw faeces at it. Given the trajectory of movement conservatism over the last decade, I’d post a guard at the his gravesite if I were in Reeve family.

Cue 2H9 rant about * being on Methamphetamines…

If you guys were right you’d fund it yourself rather than force the money from other people.  That fact that you refuse to do so proves your full of crap.

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Whistler, do you have any evidence that Michael J. Fox has not spent his own money or created just such a fund? Of course you don’t, because that’s exactly what he has done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Fox#The_Michael_J._Fox_Foundation_and_Team_Fox

Which you would know, if you ever learned how to use the internet outside of links from The Drudge Report.

But one person can only do so much. With government support, we can put an end to the suffering much more quickly, just as we have with numberous other diseases.

But one person can only do so much.

I’m glad that Fox is doing some stuff, how much?  Since you’re gung-ho you should get all of your buddies together and help without extorting money from people that disagree with it.

With government support, we can put an end to the suffering much more quickly, just as we have with numberous other diseases.

It’s absolutely shameful that you are promising a cure to those people afflicted.  There’s no way possible that you can make such a promise in good faith.

1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

If you guys were right you’d fund it yourself rather than force the money from other people.  That fact that you refuse to do so proves your full of crap.

Why do words like ‘Terry Schiavo’ and ‘morally bankrupt inconsistency’ come to mind when I read statements like these?

Because you’re delusional?

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The rest of your comment devolves into a garbled mess of half-formed thoughts which don’t pertain to the topic at hand, so I’m not going to waste my time on it.

Chad,

You and your fellow, fellow travelers have already proven my point quite convincingly.  Your thinking, such as it is, betrays you as a world-class hypocrite., suggesting that we should not do something because it has never been accomplished before, but that we simply MUST do something else, despite the fact that it has never been accomplished either.

Nor do I blame you for not trying to “waste” your time addressing my point.  Doing so would be futile, and you are, at least marginally, bright enough to recognize the fact.

How about Michael J Fox?  How much money does he have?  Why has he not put HIS money where HIS mouth is? 

Just curious, but do you know that Fox hasn’t donated his money?

But all that aside, Rush’s statement about Fox’s medication is still…pointless.  It was a dumb thing to say.

Yea, like most pundits, he’s strong ideas but short on class…

Oops, should have refreshed, didn’t see that someone already asked Whistler the same question.

Rob writes:

The same is undoubtedly true of Fox.  They put him out there as a spokesman for their side on stem cell research

It couldn’t just be that he doesn’t want to suffer from Parkinson’s any more? Seeing as he’s done ads for Republicans as well as Democrats, it seems like his only real concern is getting his Parkinson’s cured. Which makes him selfish, and smart.

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Two brief suggestions for you.  First, check out Mozilla’s newest version of FireFox browser.  It’s free, and it has a built-in spell-checker.  (the word “methamphetamine” is neither capitalized nor plural.)

Second, quoting Keith Olberman here is likely to win you no more respect than quoting Jimmy Carter or Yasser Arafat.

Just curious, but do you know that Fox hasn’t donated his money?

I’m ready to be educated.  While you’re at it explain why you and your ilk having taken care of the funding issue?

Why is ok to extort money out of people that don’t agree with it, but the millions of you that want it funded can’t kick in a thousand dollars apiece.

1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

I’m ready to be educated.  While you’re at it explain why you and your ilk having taken care of the funding issue?

Why is ok to extort money out of people that don’t agree with it, but the millions of you that want it funded can’t kick in a thousand dollars apiece.

Why don’t you ask Bush that question regarding his unjustified occupation in Iraq? I can assure you costs much more, and hurts, rather than benefits,
the citizens of this country.

Let me break it down for you:

science and curing diseases = good
wasting money to create more terrorists = bad

Just can’t stay on topic can you Chad.  Gotta try to divert the argument.

Well there’s plenty of War on Terror threads out there.

Right now we’re wondering why you hypocrites don’t spend your own money.  After all you’d have the chance to profit from the research.

It’s a great investment unless you guys have been lying to us.

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10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

“After all you’d have the chance to profit from the research.”

lmfao

Ok, you got us. Scientits are actually using stem cells to create GOLD!

People are giving money, but with government support cures can be found more quickly.

but with government support cures can be found more quickly.

Or not at all.  Don’t make promises.

I think if SCR pays off it will be with a breakthrough, not government money.

1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

science and curing diseases = good

That’s the real question, isn’t it?  If embryonic stem cell research was so “good”, why aren’t the drug companies funding it?  Answer: Because it shows no promise.  It’s a waste of taxpayer money.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Chad: With private investment, the only profit from the research occurs if a useful product is produced, whereas the “profit” to govt-funded researchers doesn’t require anything useful to be produced at all.  Duh.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

Just a simple question:  Does anyone else suspect that the term “embryonic stem cell research” might have as much to do with the intellectual “embryos” clamoring in its favor, as with the scientific research itself?

whereas the “profit” to govt-funded researchers doesn’t require anything useful to be produced at all.

How many billions have we dumped down the Aids-research hole?

1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

A fitting tribute to taxpayer-funded govt research.

If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

I’ve got to be more careful with the use of sarcasm around here.  I posted a link to me, Michael J. Fox, saying that I had neglected to take my meds before testifying before congress to showcase the effects of my disease.  I posted it because I thought the author of the original post as well as those who recognized that I had made promises in a recent commercial that I can not guarantee will come to pass could point out to pointy headed nit-wit lefties like myself, Michael J. Fox, that I had admitted to previously doing the very thing that Rush Limbaugh had suggested I may have done when I made the Amendment 2 commercial.  I did it before by my own admission, so why is Rush an asshole for saying I may have done it again?  Answer:  He’s not.  It’s just more of the same - the left can attack the right with impugnity, the right, if it fires back and gets a direct hit, will be labled mean, cruel, evil, uncaring, etc.  With that I present the link and my quoted words again so that perhaps the info can be included in a follow up post to this one or as an update to it, or so that it can be used to deflect idiotic critism of anyone taking me to task for my theatrical performances in the service of poltical ends.  Clear enough?

In My Memoir I wrote:

Snippets of my testimony were featured on several of the nightly news broadcasts. One line in particular from my prepared statement got a lot of play: “In my forties, I can expect challenges most people wouldn’t face until their seventies and eighties, if ever. But with your help, if we all do everything we can to eradicate this disease, when I’m in my fifties I’ll be dancing at my children’s weddings.” I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

I’ve got to be more careful with the use of sarcasm around here.

Mr. Fox, it is hard to know when to believe a Hollywood type, expecially when he’s a Canadian.

1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.

Always verify, my friend, never trust.  I wish I would have bolded the pertinent portion of that quoted material again.

chad reappears with a new line of Democrat talking points, hell, boy, you are a slow reader. Took me 8 minutes to read that email, it took you 2 days. And puzzlef**ked/*, you are on meth. Bitter, frustrated, angry old women like you love that stuff, makes you feel young and important.

    As for MJF and donating to research, he has established a foundation for Parkinsons research. It is primarily directed towards non-embryonic stem cell work. Why would that be? Michael is a smart, talented man. You would think he would be putting his money into the most productive lines of research?

      And davey, we understand your near orgasmic glee concerning embryonic stem cell research. Another opportunity for infanticide.

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