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Thursday, June 12, 2008

Fox News: Stop Picking On Obama’s Baby Mama

"Baby mama” is a bit of slang I’m not familiar with, but being a rube from North Dakota that’s probably not very surprising.  But apparently it’s a term with no small amount of popularity among blacks these days, and Fox decided to use it to describe Barack Obama’s wife.

The usual victim-pimping, perpetually-outraged suspects are crying “racism!”, but what exactly is racist about “baby mama?” Near as I can tell, it’s just a rather illiterate-sounding way of saying that Michelle Obama is Barack Obama’s baby’s mother.

Unless someone is contesting this fact, there’s not a lot of room for controversy here.

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I agree, you are a rube.


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on June 12, 2008 at 08:38 am

It takes one to know one, rbb.

That mama thing has been used before for Cindy Sheehan.  The media uses it in a futile attempt to cut off critizism of someone they champion.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on June 12, 2008 at 08:41 am

Thank you for backing up my assertion.


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on June 12, 2008 at 08:44 am

The usual victim-pimping, perpetually-outraged suspects are crying “racism!”

The only people that take cries of “racism” seriously any more are those making the charges.  Cry “Wolf” often enough and eventually no one cares.  So what?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 12, 2008 at 08:45 am

That’s really a terrible term to use to refer to Michelle Obama. Outrageous. The only thing that’s more outrageous are the reasons the term is so prevalent.

“Baby mama” specifically refers to the not-married woman who is the mother of your child. In urban African-American culture, that reference is common because of the incredible number of children born out of wedlock.

From the Christian Science Monitor:

Even in the 1960s, when black Americans were in the height of civil rights strife, 23 percent of black babies were born out of wedlock, a modest figure compared with 70 percent today.

Fox should be ashamed, but so should a lot of men for having baby mamas, not wives.

Pomerdorgrad on June 12, 2008 at 09:14 am
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The only people that take cries of “racism” seriously any more are those making the charges.

Excellent point Bat.  Therefore, some people care about it while others don’t.

Thank you for confirming that you don’t care that people are racist.

I take them seriously and that’s why i defend the statements that aren’t racist and identify the ones that are.

Unfortunately, having an honest debate about race on this site is all but impossible.

Hannitized on June 12, 2008 at 10:06 am

So speaks our resident racist.

As for baby mama, I remember hearing it back in the late ‘80s.


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2Hotel9 on June 12, 2008 at 10:16 am
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As for baby mama, I remember hearing it back in the late ‘80s.

Insightful, informative and completely non self centered.  /sarcasm

Hannitized on June 12, 2008 at 10:24 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMDb-NOmnk
This is going to come back to hurt Obama as well…


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goon on June 12, 2008 at 10:35 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMDb-NOmnk
This is going to come back to hurt Obama as well…


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goon on June 12, 2008 at 10:35 am
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If half of you had the honesty Laura Bush has on this issue, we wouldn’t be discussing this.

Laura Bush shows some class and stands up for Michele Obama by admiting something all logical people already know.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25078386#25069155

2/3rds of the dishonest accusations that originate from SAB could be eliminated with the employment of intellectual honesty.

Get to it.

Hannitized on June 12, 2008 at 10:37 am

So, pointing out that Democrats use race and racism for their political gain is only allowed if you are a Democrat?


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2Hotel9 on June 12, 2008 at 10:38 am
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Unfortunately, having an honest debate about race on this site is all but impossible.

If you mean, having a debate with YOU, I agree.  You lack the honesty and integrity (not to mention gray matter) required for honest debate.
Your projection skills, however, are second to none!



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Proof on June 12, 2008 at 10:39 am
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Let me rephrase that;

It is impossible to have any sort of honest debate with conservative members of SAB.

Hannitized on June 12, 2008 at 10:46 am

Because you bring race and racism into every thread you fling your feces in.


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2Hotel9 on June 12, 2008 at 10:49 am

Unfortunately, having an honest debate about race on this site is all but impossible.

If you really believe that, then you are incredibly stupid for remaining here.  But alas, like all the b.s. you post this is just one more turd.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on June 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
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So you are saying that once again Rob did not make a post that discusses racism?

Or, are you saying that when I bring racism up in a thread, you can not be honest about it?  I think you subconsciously stating the latter.

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2/3rds of the dishonest accusations that originate from SAB could be eliminated with the employment of intellectual honesty.

And you’ve been un-employed since you got here! heh.

BTW, Han-job, you’re famous! Google “mind numbingly stupid dishonest” and the top two hits refer to you!



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It is impossible to have any sort of honest debate with conservative members of SAB.

For you, because you are mind numbingly dishonest.



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Proof on June 12, 2008 at 10:58 am
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If you really believe that, then you are incredibly stupid for remaining here.  But alas, like all the b.s. you post this is just one more turd.

If you had the ability to read Doc, the words “all but” suggest that it isn’t impossible.  You idiots don’t understand words.

Hannitized on June 12, 2008 at 11:02 am

H,

Your re-phrased statement is gratuitous, suggesting as it does that only you are qualified to determine what is and what is not honest.  That proposition is laughable.

As I tried to point out yesterday afternoon, self-congratulation at the expense of others is not only self-defeating and woefully childish, it also calls into question your own maturity, judgment, and honesty.  That other gentleman (?) at least can blame his own personal bitterness, a clearly wizened intellect, a perverse misunderstanding of the principles he purports to hold, and a malevolent inability to withstand any sort of criticism.  At your relatively tender age, you have no such excuses!

More than any other commenter here, you gleefully pat yourself on the back while disparaging others with whom you disagree.  As has been pointed out to you before, both by me and others.  That you childishly regard this behavior as mature and reasonable merely highlights your unwarranted arrogance and you patently silly notion of “honest debate.”


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Bat One on June 12, 2008 at 11:08 am
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You idiots don’t understand words.

We understand this one: Projection.
BTW, not only do we understand words, we understand the grammar necessary to properly connect them into thoughts! (Unlike some mind numbingly stupid guy I could name, but won’t who made grammatical errors in a sentence claiming that he didn’t make grammatical errors!)
What a maroon!



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Proof on June 12, 2008 at 11:08 am

You idiots don’t understand words.

Grammar-Challenged Boy [tm] is now trying using broken English to explain to us how to parse words.  LMAO.

Maybe he’s learned the distinction between narrative and fact by now, but I somehow doubt it.

Carrick on June 12, 2008 at 11:13 am

sanni, you bring race into every thread you fling your feces in, no matter the subject of the post.


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2Hotel9 on June 12, 2008 at 11:18 am

You idiots don’t understand words.

WHO doesn’t understand words???


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 12, 2008 at 01:01 pm

If you had the ability to read Doc, the words “all but” suggest that it isn’t impossible.  You idiots don’t understand words.

Now you are just playing with words because your attitude suggests otherwise.  Alas, I knew that your threat to leave was too good to be true.  Hmmm, is there anything I could post that would encourage you to depart, like ‘yo mama wears combat boots’.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on June 12, 2008 at 01:14 pm

Wait, stop—how can this be racist?  I watched when Obama won his Senate seat and was amazed when his wife introduced him as your new Senator from Illinois, “My baby Daddy, Barack Obama!”

Is this another instance where some can say it but others can’t?  Was she just reassuring us in case us racists white folk had any doubt?

Look for the video.
David

LifeTrek on June 12, 2008 at 01:42 pm

BLITZER: We can take a look. Maybe he will and maybe he won’t but she looks like she’s about to introduce him. Let’s listen in.

MICHELLE OBAMA, WIFE OF BARACK OBAMA: My baby’s daddy Barack Obama. Yeah!

BARACK OBAMA, SENATOR-ELECT, ILLINOIS: Thank you, Illinois. Thank you. Thank you, Illinois. I don’t know about you but I’m still fired up. I am fired up. Look at this crowd. Thank you, Illinois.

CNN Transcript of Michelle Obama introducing Barack, November 2, 2004.
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LifeTrek on June 12, 2008 at 11:59 pm
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Fox News should not have used the term “Baby Mama” to describe Michelle Obama. It is a derogatory term for a female that has borne children out of wedlock. On the other hand the term “Baby Daddy” is also a derogatory term used to describe the fathers who are not married to their children’s mother.

I don’t know that it is especially racist, since I live in a predominantly white area and have heard it used regularly by whites and Hispanics.

At any rate, it is a derogatory term and should not have been used.

As for being “racist”? You can be sure that anyone that opposes the election of Obama is going to be described as racist. If Hillary was running we would all be ‘sexists’.

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Fox News should not have used the term “Baby Mama” to describe Michelle Obama.

Baby Mama rhymes with Obama. Somebody was trying to be cute!
But, I agree! Fox News should not have used the term “Baby Mama” to describe Michelle Obama, wife of Barack Hussein Obama Jr.



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Proof on June 13, 2008 at 08:43 am
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WHO doesn’t understand words???

The people who misunderstood my use of them and who posted smart assed remarks that suggested I was stating the opposite of what I had said.

Hannitized on June 13, 2008 at 11:11 am
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(Unlike some mind numbingly stupid guy I could name, but won’t who made grammatical errors in a sentence claiming that he didn’t make grammatical errors!)
What a maroon!

You just displayed improper use of punctuation, you idiot.

Oh, the hypocrisy of it all.

Hannitized on June 13, 2008 at 11:13 am

So the Left can go after Bush’s daughters but Chelsea is off limits.  Leftards can insult and dehumanize Bush all they like (and they like it A LOT) by calling him Chimpy McHitler and worse

Michelle Obama can jump into the fray, but don’t you dare talk her down.
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Sounds like Heads I win, Tails you lose.

I won’t play by those rules.


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Move_Zig on June 13, 2008 at 01:20 pm

Move_Zig.  I agree.  President Bush’s children, I do not believe campaigned for him the way Chelsea did.  When you campaign for someone, you also open yourself up for follow-up questions.  Yes, the left has demonized a good man and his daughters.  I remember someone dialing 911 to report the possible entrance of a persona under 21 into some club.  I need to try that sometime and see how far it gets a reaction.


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Chief RZ on June 13, 2008 at 02:14 pm

sanni, you told us, repeatedly, that Barack Hussein Obamoid is using race for political and personal gain. You also told us that anyone who does that is a racist. You have told us that Barack Hussein Obamoid is a racist, by your definition. You said it, you meant it, that ends it.


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2Hotel9 on June 13, 2008 at 02:23 pm
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