Proof doesn’t know what a poster-flag is.

If it wasn’t for ass-umptions, Hannie would just be an ass!

So that is two words in the thread alone you have fucked up.

The return of the potty mouth! The ignorant, know nothing potty mouth!
A) I didn’t “f” up “sake”. I asked if YOU knew what it meant , because it obviously didn’t make any sense in the context in which you used it. I did not post this thread for any such “sake” as the dimwitted troll from Hawaii suggested. Strike one.

B) “Spinster” has a long and well accepted definition and connotation. Why am I not surprised that the troll once again cannot admit the word he used does not mean what he thinks it does. Strike two.

You are such a moron, you aren’t even worth debating.

You took the words right out of my mouth. How about that simple, very simple, so simple even a troll like you could answer question?

Your convoluted rhetoric aside, is it wrong what they did to the flag or not? Please! No smoke screens! No dissimulation. No “Your guy did it too!”
A simple “yes” or “no” answer will suffice.

(I know that for you to have the balls to express an opinion without some kind of fig leaf for you to hide behind is foreign to your nature!)

Yes or no, troll. Let’s see who the coward is ducking the debate on the topic of this thread!

And if it is wrong, then why is it wrong for me to point it out?

No debate. Just a simple yes or no. Doesn’t require anything other than a spine. Got one?

You notice how he ignores how he claimed if it was never a flag in the first place, it can’t be considered as being altered?

When you’re talking about shirts and bikinis, twit, that is exactly right. However the FLAG that the Obamanites were waving was definitely a flag, or in Crazytroll World, are you going to tell us it’s something else? Spin away, spinner man! Spin away!

You two are made for each other! Send me an invitation for the wedding!

Go ahead and find an example of a reporter that uses the word camp as you described.

YOU WONT! YOU CANT….BECAUSE YOU ARE A COWARD, AND YOU ARE WRONG.

Oooh! If it uses ALL CAPS then it must make it truer! Heh.

I don’t have to find a “reporter”! I can find the moron who misused it originally and he can’t find a dictionary on the planet that supports his usage!

Whistler,

Are you seriously that dumb? The word “camp” is short for campaign.

Hannitized on September 19, 2008 at 02:21 pm

But, tell another lie in ALL CAPS! It makes you sound sooooo intelligent! Heh.

E,

Notice how they deride intelectuals on the left, and worship know nothings on the right. Example: Sarah Palin.

And further, they wallow in ignorance, refusing to admit when they have been defeated and educated by those with whom they disagree.

Their reluctance to compromise and find common ground is overshadowed only by their desire to remain bitterly partisan.

Poof,

You only say that, because you are perpetually losing and perpetually using poor grammar, punctuation and spelling!

Threw loosing in there for the sake of being dishonest did you?

Proof screws up the word Spinster:
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/flag_of_the_obama_nation/P100#c399559

Proof screws up the word “sake”.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/flag_of_the_obama_nation/P100#c399354

Soon it will be an obamanation…

Proof,

eunuchized the beardless catamite of the “freudian projections” and severe reluctance bordering on inability to admit error is a fine example of the products of the California Public Education system.

Did Beardsley really confuse “find” with “fine”? Yes, he did.

But since it was never intended to be a flag it is not desecration.

A flag manufactured as a flag that was never intended to be a flag? You’re about as confused as young Hannitized. And that’s saying something! Heh.

Puttin NOBAMA mug on the flag is disrespectful.
Since when did he shed any blood sweat and tears for this nation? Being a corrupt politician from Chi town doesn’t cut.

Throwing out a laundry list is not an argument, Hannie!

His laundry list, or yours? You both threw one out. You aren’t being hypocritical or anything, are ya?

Was it you who didn’t make the argument or E?

Since we both know you are full of it, why don’t you just admit that there is no difference in altering the flag, and desecrating it. It’s not a fucking dress.

The Flag Desecration Amendment, often referred to as the flag burning amendment, is a controversial proposed constitutional amendment to the United States Constitution that would allow the United States Congress to statutorily prohibit expression of political views through the physical desecration of the flag of the United States. The concept of flag desecration continues to provoke a heated debate over protecting a national symbol, protecting free speech, and protecting the liberty represented by a national symbol.

While the proposed amendment is most frequently referred to colloquially in terms of “flag burning,” the language would permit the prohibition of all forms of flag desecration, which may take forms other than burning, such as using the flag for clothing or napkins.

How do you fashion a flag in the form of clothing? You “alter it”…..which means you desecrate it.

You are welcome.

So he nailed you when he said;

Throwing out a laundry list is not an argument, Hannie! Also, what’s with the semi-colon? Are you abusing new forms of punctuation these days? Apostrophobia is too easy for you and you’re branching out??? Heh.

Proof,

I see you are too cowardly to debate, and instead you only offer ad hominem.

Again I ask you: “What are the differences between altering the American flag and desecrating it”?

Go ahead…fuck yourself by answering. You won’t because you know I defeated you.

You comment on Bush being a law breaker, and I will comment on the People who made the flag, not those who bought it.

So, did Bush break the law, yes or no? Should he be flogged as Gustave suggests of the Obama flag desecrators?

You don’t have the intellectual honesty or courage to answer the questions.

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THIS WAS TAKEN OFF THE TV AFTER hUSSEIN OBAMA WON THE ELECTION. IT WAS OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE. ON THE LEFT IS AN OBAMA FAN WAIVING THE HAMMER AND SICKLE FLAG. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

Ya gotta love this comment about Obama:

"I am deeply convinced that the biggest disappointments are born out of big expectations,"

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin

this crap doesnt bother me much. what bothers me is that these people actually think people like imadinerjacket in iran wont burn it in their town square because barrys head is on it.

rather than blame him for things which are completely out of his control.

What part of "maybe spread the word among his followers?" didn't you understand?

What part of "maybe spread the word among his followers?" didn't you understand?

Proof on January 17, 2009 at 05:23 pm

The part where he is supposed to be able to see police and control everything that other people do.

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I believe it…look at the lefty's celebrating the election. See the flag in the left corner.

Yes, all those graduates of government schools can look forward to a life hunched over a loom in a flag factory if the Puzzlefeets and other slackers get their way.
Change you can count on!<img src='http://i39.tinypic.com/33kunao.jpg'&gt;

Puzzlefeet – yeah, the right doesn't even care that most of the U.S. flags are made in China.

I think it is awesome that one country can get another country to make its flags. Disparage it all you want. We rock because of that!

Wow, there are a bunch of sourpusses out tonight!

I used to live in the DC area and witnessed many marches, both Leftard and Conservative.

They were worlds apart in appearance and tenor.

Conservatives generally got their under their own steam, driving or flying hundreds or even thousands of miles to make their voices heard. They were a hodge-podge lot, carried home-made signs made out of poster-board and paint or marker. The one sure way to find them was to look for the sea of American flags.

Leftist marches, including the Million (um… actually about 80K) Mom March, were hosted, catered affairs. All wore professionally-made T-Shirts, carried the logo balloons or frisbees or shopping bags, were bussed in on someone else's dime, had glitterati speaking on rock-band stages and big-screen TVs showing the speaker as backdrops. (Seeing Rosies face blown up to 15 feet high was pretty nauseating)

and the big kicker… not a damn single US flag.

America really is dividing into two camps:

Americans and Leftists.

Yean, I seem to remember the posting of a picture on this site with a half naked woman wrapped in the American flag and not one word from youall about the atrociousness of that. I seem to remember a lot of ooohing and ahhhhing from the righties here.

of course not Lik. Its only atrocious when excited Obama supporters before an historic inauguration are expressing their joy.

When men ogle over a naked woman draped in the American flag, it's acceptable and normal.

Oh, I get it now. bwaaahaaaahaaaaa!

Feel free to peruse the comments: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/friday_night_bab…

I believe that Proof even posted the article and picture of the naked woman wrapped in the U.S. Flag and then attempted to justify it as harmless male sexual excitedness.

And now he is outraged, outraged I say.

Hey Proof, maybe you oughta look up flag etiquette!

Bwaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa!

Ok, that's what you are hanging your hat on, fine by me that's it's not illegal. I just find it hilarious that you are so outraged over this, but defend a naked woman wrapped in the American flag as harmless male sexual fun.

You all are soooooo hilarious tonight.

Personally, I don't know that she's "half" naked! Underneath that flag, she appears to be totally naked! If it weren't for that very flag, the readers Say Anything might have be subjected to full frontal nudity!
I'd say that flag was performing a public service!

Actually, that's not the picture, but leave it to you to have an entire series of pictures. I posted the July 11 picture. Nothing better to do with your time I see than post pictures of naked women wrapped in the flag and then get all disgusted over excited citizens expressing their joy.

Stay classy Poofie.

get all disgusted over excited citizens expressing their joy.

Congratulations on being too dense to get the point. There's nothing wrong with their joy! And if you'll notice, none of the ladies draped in the flag felt the need to embroider their names on it or attach pictures of themselves to it.
But, thanks for playing!

Kevin, it's nice to see you in your tux for the big night! Take lots of pictures.

Oh, and it's nice to see you falling all over yourself to justfy why your pics are ok. I'm enjoying it, keep going.

Where are the bibles?!?! Pictures of girls wrapped in flags but no bibles?!?! This is heresy! This is unpatriotic!

The guns and beer were also missing.

Hot chicks wrapped in American flags with bibles, guns, and beer don't get much better! Yee-haw!!!!

All Hail the One! So since pepsi is not using their logo anymore can we use for our new flag? Hurry up and swear President Urkel in already so I can write "I voted for the One" on my power bill and send it back.

Gustave:

Flag etiquette, is not as important to the left as it is to the right.

I have to say, fellas, since we are on this topic, I am not comfortable with people doing things like this with the flag, the Left or the Right. Just because I like the female form does not make it right to use the flag as a stage prop.
Many years ago a Texas licensed vehicle showed up at the dealership I worked at with an American flag draped over the seat as a seat cover. A Vietnam vet I worked with reported it to the sheriff, a WWII vet who promptly came and got it. He said to have the owner come to the station and get his flag if he dared.
When did it become okay to do anything with the flag, other than fly it properly, respect it, and care for it? You know, it is not the threads and stitching and colors that mean anything- it is the flag as a symbol of the greatness of America that we honor. To me, whether you fly it upside down, wear it, or burn it, you are not showing it, and by extension America, the respect it deserves. Whether by ignorance or malice doesn't matter- you need a better, more informed attitude towards your country and its symbol.
This blog has a few sad fuckers that love to disparage this nation, who have nothing positive to add to a conversation, and bitch endlessly about what we are doing in the world. We see them and know them for what they are.
Please, the rest of you good Americans, don't go down that path.

You know, it is not the threads and stitching and colors that mean anything- it is the flag as a symbol of the greatness of America that we honor.

That's RIGHT! I treat my flag as a precious thing … it never touches the ground, it is put away properly, etc. It IS a precious thing in that it symbolizes what our nation is historically and what it (should) symbolize today. The problem with the left, and why so many people see them as traitorous America-bashers with no morals, is because they have limited, or no, high standards, anything goes, and so they adhere to nothing that is of great value or depth. Even in their quest for self-expressive freedom they aren't even smart enough to vote AGAINST the party which is for ever more intrusive, invasive government – mainly b/c they're so hung up on being able to have "pig sex" orgies to honor their similarly integrity-deficient psuedo-sophisticate-leader Obama or want to give all the slackards of the country a portion of the working people's largesses … oh, and let's not forget abortion. The left lacks the foresight to see the big picture.
As far as the flags in this picture – they should all be BURNED.

stop voting for either republicans or democrats

I don't totally disagree. I just know that in this last election, to vote democrat was worse than to vote republican. I am a conservative & I basically saw not one truly good choice from either party … but, I didn't want to throw my vote away and perhaps have, as HAS happened, the LEAST qualified (in every single way) candidate win. I am anti-Socialism / Communism. I see our country moving that way inch by bailed-out inch. Bush be damned for his (economic) panic to begin with, but at least his entire ideology beginning and throughout his presidency wasn't based on Socialism as is BHO's.

then quit feigning outrage with desecration of the flag

Who says my outrage is "feigned"? I thought liberals were all about nuance and "shades of gray" as opposed to black and white. I see a difference between wrapping one's self in a standard, unmodified flag and plastering one's face and campaign logos over it!

One offends me and the other does not. I thought you libs taught us in things like sexual harassment, and other thought crimes, that it's not so much what you do as how the offended party perceives it? I guess that's just too much nuance for you Lefties? Heh.

No,poofie, the point is that you do it, then scream about what a few tourists in town for the inauguration bought at some vendors booth on the Hill.

You put up the post after posting naked women wrapped in the flag and scream about how bad "they" are and justify why it is ok for you to do it.

This blog has a few sad fuckers that love to disparage this nation, who have nothing positive to add to a conversation, and bitch endlessly about what we are doing in the world. We see them and know them for what they are.

Our Vets, Fathers and fore-fathers fought for the nation to keep it free so you sad sacks can claim freedom of speech and drool venom throughout our media and sicken the view our children have on this great country. Our young are rolling in the manic manure being spread by the left that OBAMA can do no wrong. These few sad pieces of humanity cowardly display their affection for their country and should taken up town for a public display of flogging. Sadly, they would not learn from this, however others would then think twice about denigrating our flag and country.

the point is that you do it, then scream about what a few tourists in town for the inauguration bought at some vendors booth on the Hill.

Scream? Your derangement beanie is slipping dear! Tinfoil subsidies under the new Obama administration?

To point something out is not to "scream". Why do all the Leftists at this site has such trouble with the English language? I hear a lot of deranged screeching from the Left, but no one is "screaming" here on our side of the aisle!

You put up the post after posting naked women wrapped in the flag and scream about how bad "they" are and justify why it is ok for you to do it.

"Scream" again??? Is this on your "Word of the Day" calendar? Really puzzlefeet-in-mouth, Please point out where I said how "bad" anyone was? I merely said they "disrespected the flag". Did you even read the post before you began your rants? It is "bad" to disrespect the flag, but I said nothing about the people's motives, other than that they were "happy".

And I said there is a difference between the two. One might be in questionable taste (as are flag bikinis, shirts and the like) and the other is clearly wrong, altering the flag by adding a person's picture, campaign logo, etc.)

You are certainly free to disagree with me, but really! Your unhinged accusations that I am "screaming" about anything are not based in reality!

Maybe, had I typed it in ALL CAPS, you could have said I was "screaming" or "shouting" (I could post a link to a dictionary if you'd like, to check its meaning?

I think that with a careful examination of what I posted and what you posted (and a little reading comprehension), if anyone suspects that there is a spittle flecked monitor somewhere, it's not at my desk! Heh.

Is it proper for the flag to rub against a cunt, a dick or a shitty smelly ass?

ellinas: They were draped in the flag, they did not wear it like your Depends®!

Hahaha!

Flag etiquette, is not as important to the left as it is to the right. Lefty's aren't as patriotic as the right…..

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So then, why does Bush illegally desecrate the American flag? Because he is secretly a Democrat?

To quote the brightest thing Hannitized ever said:

Hahaha!

So, Little Orphan Hannie: The fact that Bush may have done something wrong justifies Obama supporters for doing something wrong? Do two wrongs make a right?

If I may quote a much more brilliant thinker than the Kahuna of the Kiddie Pool:

…is your only defense of Obama's supporters defacing the flag that "You guys do it, too!" ?

To desecrate: To use something others find sacred or of great importance to others in an offensive manner.

In the land of the, used to be, free, we are free even to desecrate the flag, but being free to do something does not make it right! Should our national symbol of many separate states being unified into one nation be used for a bra, panties or toilet paper? To do so is legal, but it tells people visting from other nations that we have no pride in our Nation as being that "city upon a hill," but that we are a nation of disgruntled petty anarchists with no loyalty to or pride in our land at all!

Quit trying to change the subject.

Back to the topic of the post? What a confused troll you are!

I merely said they "disrespected the flag". Did you even read the post before you began your rants? It is "bad" to disrespect the flag, but I said nothing about the people's motives, other than that they were "happy".

And I said there is a difference between the two. One might be in questionable taste (as are flag bikinis, shirts and the like) and the other is clearly wrong, altering the flag by adding a person's picture, campaign logo, etc.)

Proof on January 18, 2009 at 09:44 am

Proof. Using the flag in any way other than it's intended use is disrespectful.

Please point out where I said how "bad" anyone was?
Proof on January 18, 2009 at 09:44 am

You may not have said it, but you might as well have done so. We all know that according to some here on SAB disrespecting the flag, is done by: a)Terrorists. b) Unpatriotic citizens. c)Liberal leftie Democrats. d)Anyone oposed to what you guys believe, e)Using the flag in a way it was not intended to be used.

You also mention "altering the flag".
Making a bikini or a swim suit out of the flag is not altering it? Give me a break and stop splitting hairs.
Puzzlefeet and I used your way of thinking to discredit your post. Get over it.

Yes. Please hold me accountable for anything I say.

OK,

The fact that they make so many mistakes regarding the flag (printing it upside down, etc.) can be traced to their general disdain for the flag and the country that it represents, sometimes referred to as "patriotism".

So he nailed you when he said;

You may not have said it, but you might as well have done so. We all know that according to some here on SAB disrespecting the flag, is done by: a)Terrorists. b) Unpatriotic citizens. c)Liberal leftie Democrats. d)Anyone oposed to what you guys believe, e)Using the flag in a way it was not intended to be used.

You also mention "altering the flag".

there is no difference in altering the flag, and desecrating it.

Heh. Trained monkeys could see the difference, but not Hannitized. *Sigh* And I had such high hopes for him!
Maybe when he can finally wrap his tiny mind around words like "camp" or those funny little dots he uses indiscriminately, that the rest of us call "punctuation"…

there is no difference in altering the flag, and desecrating it.

Heh. Trained monkeys could see the difference,

What are they? Explain away.

What are the first rule of holes Poofy?

And if there is "no difference", young twit, any commentary from you on what you obviously believe to be the desecration of our flag by Obama supporters?

WTF do you think genius? Unlike you, I have principles and standards. I don't make arguments for the sake of attacking my political opponents for the same thing my President does.

You comment on Bush being a law breaker, and I will comment on the People who made the flag, not those who bought it.

As far as I know, it could have been a republican flag maker setting up the Obama supporters.

What is….not what are….

That's it comrade, attack grammar and avoid debating the issue!

Neiman my good man. I was correcting MY OWN grammar.

Beardsley doesn't like it when I mop the floor with his lil pals.

Sorry Beardsley, the Ostentatious Merkin; I will continue to identify the fragile and desperate positions your side holds….and your boys should continue to defend their positions.

Or, they can choose to live in denial and further separate themselves from civilization and modernization.

Neiman my good man. I was correcting MY OWN grammar

Which, you must admit, is a full time job for anyone!

Congratulations overcompensating elinas,

You have finally found a subject (the absence of shame where it is sorely missed) upon which you are indeed a subject matter expert!

Congratulations overcompensating elinas,

You have finally found a subject (the absence of shame where it is sorely missed) upon which you are indeed a subject matter expert!

Rodney Graves on January 18, 2009 at 06:12 pm

And congratulations to you for always having kind words for others.
Congratulations for not getting personal with people, and not attempting to belittle them, in order to prop up you overinflated ego.

overcompensating elinas,

Sadly you have already returned to topics of which you know naught. Your brief flash of lucidity has passed.

Rodney Graves on January 18, 2009 at 06:28 pm

Beloved Rodney. I love you too.

eunichized,

Given your factual performance and near inability to admit error, no one here owes you a damn thing, let alone answers.

eunichized,

You get here what you have worked so hard to earn: scorn and derision.

Speaking of being too cowardly to debate:

I asked you:

And if there is "no difference", young twit, any commentary from you on what you obviously believe to be the desecration of our flag by Obama supporters?

Your lying and cowardly non-response was:

WTF do you think genius?  Unlike you, I have principles and standards.  I don't make arguments for the sake of attacking my political opponents for the same thing my President does.

Neither do I. "Sake" must be another one of those words you have trouble understanding!

Your convoluted rhetoric aside, is it wrong what they did to the flag or not? Please! No smoke screens! No dissimulation. No "Your guy did it too!"
A simple "yes" or "no" answer will suffice.

(I know that for you to have the balls to express an opinion without some kind of fig leaf for you to hide behind is foreign to your nature!)

Yes or no, troll. Let's see who the coward is ducking the debate on the topic of this thread!

And if it is wrong, then why is it wrong for me to point it out?

Take your time weaseling out of this one! And please, more of your attacks on me about how all I do is make "ad hominem" attacks. It really is just so gosh darn cute!

And what in the hell does that have to do with the flag? Were (sic) talking about the FLAG

I'm sorry, dimwit! I thought you were paying attention! You were echoing ellinas about how I was "splitting hairs". That was the discussion we were having: Whether a swimsuit manufactured in a flag motif was desecrating the flag. ellinas repeated said I was splitting hairs. I said, that since it never was a flag to begin with, it could not be "desecrated".

You obviously, cannot comprehend simple English, or your ADD prevents you from remembering what was said, or you simply haven't read the discussion that preceded with comprehension, and you merely ass-umed you knew what you were talking about.

News flash: You would do well to assume that you never quite understand what is being said. You'll be correct more often that way!
If you want to jump into the middle of a discussion and change the subject, you should say so.
(Has anyone ever told you you have very poor communication skills?)

Please take a few minutes and review the conversations to this point, so that you don't appear to be such a petulant and ignorant child.

you said you did not accuse the Obama people of defacing the flag, only altering it.

Witless troll! I said no such thing! In fact, oh Kahuna With The Brain of a Tuna, my question implies the exact opposite of what you understood me to have said. I said:

…is your only defense of Obama's supporters defacing the flag that "You guys do it, too!"

How did you get it exactly backwards? Or is setting up straw men the only way you have a prayer of "defeating" me?

Please give me the exact quote where I said:

I did not accuse the Obama people of defacing the flag, only altering it

I am not going to post any story on this site as there are no fertile minds to contemplate any argument.

I hear chickens clucking! And you would deprive Dino and rbb and Lioncourt and Buzz and all your little friends (who incidentally, you just dissed!) of your wisdom and knowledge? And how about the thousands of people who read but don't comment! The ones that see that you are a blowhard, know nothing, lying, cowardly POS! Heh.

you said you did not accuse the Obama people of defacing the flag, only altering it

.

Witless troll! I said no such thing! In fact, oh Kahuna With The Brain of a Tuna, my question implies the exact opposite

Oh…my bad. You said they "disrespected" it. How do you disrespect a flag if you do not alter it or deface it?

Here

I merely said they "disrespected the flag". Did you even read the post before you began your rants? It is "bad" to disrespect the flag, but I said nothing about the people's motives, other than that they were "happy".

Do you even know the laws of defacing the American Flag? No; otherwise you would not be arguing that there is a difference.

see if you can find the quote where I said "I did not accuse the Obama people of defacing the flag, only altering it."

OK, let's sort out this fucking mess. You are such a spinster and a liar. Let's go step by step.

You said:

ut up the post after posting naked women wrapped in the flag and scream about how bad "they" are and justify why it is ok for you to do it.

"Scream" again??? Is this on your "Word of the Day" calendar? Really puzzlefeet-in-mouth, Please point out where I said how "bad" anyone was? I merely said they "disrespected the flag".

So in one breath, you say that you never said the Obama people did anything bad…and that you merely said they "disrespected it".

That is a lie on two fronts. The first lie is that you think disrespect to the flag IS to desecrate it. I can prove that with this comment you made:

… Exactly! Speaking of intent, it may be ignorance on the part of the Obama revelers, and there's no indication that either of the two flag draped ladies intended to "desecrate" the flag, but you have the flag stomping, flag burning, Blame America First crowd that are part and parcel of the modern Democratic Party. Their intent is clearly to desecrate and disrespect the flag of the United States of America.

So unless you can separate which of those actions against the flag are disrespectful and which are desecrating, you must admit you equated the two to mean the same thing.

Lie two is that you also said that they "defaced the flag and altered it" and that is wrong. Is doing something wrong not bad? Altering and defacing is desecration…even by your own explanation.

So, ‘feet, is your only defense of Obama's supporters defacing the flag that "You guys do it, too!" ?

and.

And I said there is a difference between the two. One might be in questionable taste (as are flag bikinis, shirts and the like) and the other is clearly wrong, altering the flag by adding a person's picture, campaign logo, etc.)

THERE!!

I have no idea what you're trying to hang your hat on. And congratulations on looking up "sake"! Have a cookie!

No, you don't because you are too stupid to understand just how deeply I revealed your wiling desire to be dishonest about what you say and what your intentions are as well as your mental illness for putting emotions to words.

You tried to claim you only stated the Obama people "disrespected" the flag and that is not bad.

But I proved you said and think more than that, and that you also think it is wrong. In the context you used the word wrong, you mean bad.

You also tried to claim that there is a difference between altering, defacing, disrespecting the flag, but not if you make a bikini that looks like a flag.

Even though, by law and definition making a bikini in the form of a flag is diverting from sacred to a profane use or purpose of the flags image.

Flag etiquette, is not as important to the left as it is to the right.

gustave776 on January 17, 2009 at 04:26 pm

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…Should our national symbol of many separate states being unified into one nation be used for a bra, panties or toilet paper? To do so is legal, but it tells people visting from other nations that we have no pride in our Nation as being that "city upon a hill," but that we are a nation of disgruntled petty anarchists with no loyalty to or pride in our land at all!

Neiman on January 18, 2009 at 09:06 am

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Are flags on T-shirts, ties, etc., really flags?

Yes. According to the Flag Code, a flag is anything "by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag."

The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.
Source: Flag Code, Section 3

Therefore, a flag includes any representation of it of any substance, with stars and stripes of any number. This would include T-shirts and ties.

The Flag Code states that the flag should never be worn. (Section 8d): "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."

No, you don't because you are too stupid to understand just how deeply I revealed your wiling desire to be dishonest about what you say

How deeply you revealed??? Reveal deeply for us some more! Is English your first language? With stilted grammar like that, it's no wonder no one understands you!

And yes, I understand how deeply you desire to show me to be a hypocrite! And you're willing to be one if that's what it takes to attack me. Your pathology is clear, young twit! You cannot win arguments, therefore you must attack the character of those you disagree with, whether you understand the argument or not!

You are such a spinster

What a maroon! Do you have any clue as to what you just said? I doubt it. Look up the word, twit. I'm sure you thought you were being clever, but that word already exists with a different meaning. (Not that being ignorant of a word's meaning has ever stopped you before!)

I don't have the time this morning to dissect ALL of your stupidity, so let's take the next glaring error of yours as indicative of your careless reading comprehension and the bogus case you try to build upon it:

Please point out where I said how "bad" anyone was? I merely said they "disrespected the flag".

Note the word "was". It denotes a quality of being. What I said to puzzlefeet and you did not or dishonestly chose not to understand, was about the character of the people. I was not judging them.

So in one breath, you say that you never said the Obama people did anything bad.

Here you are clearly, utterly, unmistakably WRONG, dunderhead! I never said that they didn't do anything bad. That's kinda the point of the post. Hello? McFly??? Did you even read the post? (Did you ever finish the third grade? The first, second or third time you took it?)

I never said it was their intent to desecrate the flag, so I wasn't judging them as evil doers, but the flag had been desecrated and they were too ignorant or oblivious to see it.

So, in the same breath, I can say someone is not a bad person, but did something bad, or possessed something that is bad.

That's not hypocrisy, you twit! That's you with your sub-par, third grade education, trying to understand simple English words like "was" and "do" and "camp" and failing miserably on a consistent basis.

So, are you so mind numbingly stupid that you cannot comprehend small words like "was", "yes" and "no"?

Or are you so mind numbingly dishonest that you would attempt to twist my words into an argument so ridiculous that even you could win it? (Or both?)

Smelly diaper clean up needed at the Kiddie Pool!

Oh, and rbb: Your BDS is noted.

Proof Are you so mind numbingly stupid that you cannot comprehend that have been busted for being a hypocrite, a partisan hack, and less then truthfully?

Or are you so mind numbingly stupid, that you think we will eat the shit sandwich you are serving us?
FYI only Robert108 eats shit sandwiches.

overcompensating elinas finds some more subjects on which overcompensating elinas is competent to speak (at least as regards its own behavior here on SAB).

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Getting back on point….

Here you are clearly, utterly, unmistakably WRONG, dunderhead! I never said that they didn't do anything bad.

Gotcha!

What definition did you intend to mean when you said they did something bad?

Main Entry:
1bad
Pronunciation:
ˈbad
Function:
adjective
Inflected Form(s):
worse ˈwərs ; worst ˈwərst
Etymology:
Middle English
Date:
14th century
1 a: failing to reach an acceptable standard : poor <a bad repair job> b: unfavorable <make a bad impression> c: not fresh : spoiled <bad fish> d: not sound : dilapidated <the house was in bad condition>
2 a: morally objectionable : evil <bad men> b: mischievous , disobedient <a bad dog>
3: inadequate or unsuited to a purpose <a bad plan> <bad lighting>
4: disagreeable , unpleasant <bad news>
5 a: injurious , harmful <a bad influence> b: serious , severe <in bad trouble> <a bad cough>
6: incorrect , faulty <bad grammar>
7 a: suffering pain or distress <felt generally bad> b: unhealthy , diseased <bad teeth>
8: sorrowful , sorry <feels bad about forgetting to call>
9 a: invalid , void <a bad check> b: not able to be collected <a bad debt>
10bad·der bad·dest slang a: good , great b: tough , mean
– bad·ness noun

You can't use any definition, except the second, that would fit to indicate that they did something bad…..without it being morally reprehensible and evil.

So either you are trying to have it both ways, or you don't know how to use words properly.

All they did was buy a flag and wave it. They didn't make the flag, so they neither did anything wrong, nor did they desecrate it. The person who made the flag did.

Considering you screwed up "sake", "Spinster" and "deeply" all in one thread. I will conclude you screwed up the use of the word bad, in the context you used it.

I never said it was their intent to desecrate the flag, so I wasn't judging them as evil doers,

There does not have to be intent in order for people to do something bad (morally reprehensible, evil).

but the flag had been desecrated and they were too ignorant or oblivious to see it.

That is ignorance, nothing more. They would not be charged with desecrating the flag, the person who made them would. So they could neither be charged with doing anything wrong, or illegal.

Not so for President Bush, who defaced and desecrated the American flag, knowingly.

So, in the same breath, I can say someone is not a bad person, but did something bad, or possessed something that is bad.

Not in the context you used it. Go ahead and try.

Doesn't require anything other than a spine. Got one?

Yes English is my first language, is it yours? Now you have screwed up
"SAKE", "SPINSTER" and "DEEPLY" all in one thread.

One last English lesson for the twit who says English is his first language, but scarcely demonstrates it!

You said:

No, you don't because you are too stupid to understand just how deeply I revealed your wiling (sic) desire to be dishonest about what you say

Deeply (a word which I understand) in this poorly crafted sentence, is adverbial and modifies the verb "revealed". People (at least people even vaguely conversant in English) typically don't say idiotic things like "I deeply revealed your desire", they might say things like "I revealed the depth of your desire…" there, "depth" would modify the word "desire", and would make sense in its context.

You are clearly out of your depth, when you construct any sentence in English. Particularly, if you have a prayer for that sentence to make sense!

Now, run along back to the Kiddie Pool until you can answer a simple yes or no question! Daddy has to go to work!

until you can answer a simple yes or no question!

Asked and answered.

people who militantly defend the flag as thou it shoudnt be touched are the EXACT same as people who think the muslim bible cant be flushed down a toilet. is you faith so weak that this actually means something?

also, your f'ed in the head if you think the pic of jessica simpson is desecrating the flag when its really THE reason (on many levels) america rocks.

Anybody ever actually read the nonsense that Hannitized spews? I read fantasy and science fiction, but we need a new category of fiction for the rantings of Twits and their self-imagined greatness!

My argument is that they did nothing wrong.

Funny! If you had actually read the post, or any of my arguments with the same understanding a third grader might, you would have seen that our two positions are not that far apart.!

WHAT? I say they did nothing wrong, you claim they did something wrong. That is 180 degrees apart in difference sonny.

You are quite possibly the most dishonest person I know.

Here is what you said:

And I said there is a difference between the two. One might be in questionable taste (as are flag bikinis, shirts and the like) and the other is clearly wrong, altering the flag by adding a person's picture, campaign logo, etc.)

So now you are lying and saying you never said what they did was wrong, as I have said? Somehow, in your twisted lies and spin, you our positions are not that far off?

Holy shit Batman; Robin (boy wonder) has gone crazy.

So now you are lying and saying you never said what they did was wrong, as I have said? Somehow, in your twisted lies and spin, you our positions are not that far off?

Look, one last time, moron. Your inability to comprehend simple English is legendary!
"They" is an indefinite pronoun. You can use it interchangeably when talking about the Obama supporters or about the flag manufacturers. YOU keep confusing discussions of the two. It could be your ADD, your mind numbing stupidity or your mind numbing dishonesty. I have not been able to determine which!

Let me share with you a personal correspondence. I won't say from whom, because I did not ask their permission to reproduce it, but just so you know that your fans really appreciate you!

You are right! I will ignore Hannitized. He is such an idiot! It only encourages him and wastes time. Acknowledging him seems to fuel his intense psychosis… He really needs help.

Truer words were never spoken! You are hopeless! You cannot follow a simple train of thought. You cannot answer simple questions in a straight forward and timely manner. And you haven't gotten a single fact straight since you blundered into this thread. You spread the confusion that is between your ears wherever you go.

You spout nonsense and claim victory. Well, claim another victory, numbnuts and leave. Your monumental ignorance and dishonesty is not worth my time!

Proof! You are full of shit. Stop spinning, twisting and changing the subject. Enough is enough. You got busted for being less then truthfull.

The prima facie evidence was not MY definition, it was the US Code :

Not that evidence…BY YOUR DEFINITION.

Must I remind you??

If the swimsuit above was cut from a manufactured flag, then it would indeed be desecration. Also, extremely inefficient from a manufacturing standpoint!
I do not have dead bang, metaphysical certainty that her suit was not "cut from a flag", but unless it's a one of a kind article, it was manufactured from large bolts of cloth that had either red and white stripes or white stars on a blue background. Her suit was never a "flag" to begin with, rather two varieties of printed cloth.

"Well", you might ask, "Isn't that what makes up a flag?"

Yes, but they were never intended to be a "flag". They were never made into a flag. They were always intended to be a garment. Are you offended by the motif of the garment? That's your prerogative! But, there was never a "flag" to desecrate.

Are there flag like elements on it? Yes. It conveys, through closure, the impression of a flag. I have a number of ties that have a flag motif, some with stars and stripes. None of them were ever flags.

Likewise the poster flags were never American flags to start with, they started out as posters with flag elements and motif's on them. Primarily they are Obama poster flags.

However the FLAG that the Obamanites were waving was definitely a flag,

They were poster flags, not American Flags. The poster flags merely had American flag like elements. But it was never cut from a flag nor were the pictures and letters applied to a American flag.

By the standard you created, to be an argumentative ninny, you created the loop hole. You idiot.

Send me an invitation for the wedding!

Proof on January 19, 2009 at 08:33 pm

Wedding date: 1/20/2009
Proof you are cordially invited to the wedding.
Dress casually, but please: No Flag Like Garments.

However the FLAG that the Obamanites were waving was definitely a flag

Proof on January 19, 2009 at 08:33 pm

Was it manufactured as a flag? No!
Did those revelers take a real flag and put Obama's likeness on it? No!
Are you lying again? Yes!

You know what poofy? Let me tell you something you racist pig, you. I kept my mug shut, hoping you are man enough to admit your hypocrisy/error.

According to your posts on this thread, it is OK for white females to alter and desecrate the flag by placing said flag next to their cunts and shitty asses.
But according to the picture and your writings it is not OK for black females to wave a piece of cloth that resembles/imitates the flag and has Obama's likeness on it.
Do you get my drift you racist scum? Did you think I would not notice? Shame on you!

Proof doesn't know what a poster-flag is.

Here, have a look-see Poofy. There are many poster flags, some of are of the British flags, with pictures on them and what not.

You display your ignorance again.
http://www.smarter.com/se–qq-poster+fla…

cue, not que.

Right on cue, eh Elinas? What did I tell you?

Hannitized on January 19, 2009 at 09:29 pm

You told me how Rodney Graves pops up like a weasel right on cue.
And you were correct. The weasel popped up right on cue.

Did eunichized really confuse cue, with que, with queue?

Yes.

Yes he did.

Another find product of the CA public schools!

Or did I lay a trap for a fool?

What? No one told eunuchized the beardless catamite of the "freudian projections" and severe reluctance bordering on inability to admit error and overcompensating elinas that we haven't bothered debating them for months, and merely mock them when we find it convenient?

It's cheap humor, bordering on the sadistic, but it is entertaining!

With apologies to Monty Python:

Go away [acronym title="overcompensating elinas"]silly[/acronym] [acronym title="eunuchized"]maggots[/acronym] or we shall taunt you a second time.

And you are exactly right E. When they are losing the debate, they turn to spelling and grammar as a last resort.

It is all they have, when they don't have the intellect or an argument.

Hannitized on January 19, 2009 at 10:22 pm

I told you! On top of that it it hypocritical on their part to do so.
Notice how they deride intelectuals on the left, and worship know nothings on the right. Example: Sarah Palin.

Losing..

The only regular riot is the fact that you miss any argument because you narrowly focus on people who don't spend time proof reading before they hit the submit button.

So what? You have reduced yourself to a moron who is distracted by minutiae.

Who looks like Einstein, Stephen Hawkings and Isaac Newton compared to you!

Actually, that is not true. I make spelling errors, big deal. You fail to understand the meanings of basic and simple words.

Here is another example;

Proof blows it on Attack and Insult: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/despite_being_a_…

And why you can think you can lord the word Camp over me is beyond me.

You can not provide one example of a professional reporter using Camp in the context you claim it is defined by.

Yet I provided several examples of reporters using the word in the context in which I have defined it.

You narrowly focus on the word "short", because that is as close to an argument as you can get.

Go ahead and find an example of a reporter that uses the word camp as you described.

YOU WONT! YOU CANT….BECAUSE YOU ARE A COWARD, AND YOU ARE WRONG.

Proof,

eunuchized the beardless catamite of the "freudian projections" and severe reluctance bordering on inability to admit error in his own words makes George W. Bush look positively eloquent!

I don't have to find a "reporter"!

Because you can't! You know you are wrong, and you have no common use of the word as you have defined it.

I, on the other hand, have provided several examples of professional journalists using the word camp, as I have defined it.

Just like you screwed up the words "attack, insult, sake" and "spinster", you screwed up "camp".

How does one screw up insult and attack anyway?

What a maroon.

I don't have to find a "reporter"!

Because you can't! You know you are wrong, and you have no common use of the word as you have defined it.

You are just plain delusional now, Little Orphan Hannie! You are the only one who misused the word. The common usage is the one everybody else uses! End of story! (For sane people!)

as you have defined it

As every English speaker in the world, sans one, defines it. You really must be desperate to flog this dead horse!

Give it up, troll! You look more insane, more childish and more desperate every time you fail to grow a pair of balls, long enough to admit you were wrong.

It makes you look so much like…you! Heh.

Proof blows it on Attack and Insult:

Actually, if you look at the entire thread, I didn't. I merely refused to explain the difference to you when you demanded it,

Proof lies again, just like he lied when he claimed he never vilified a Vietnam vet by accusing him of trafficking in porn, when he was not charged with it.

The lying troll has no defense against his stupidity, so he lies. Too funny.

Evidence of him screwing up the words insult and attack below:

I am not denying that I insulted you on Christmas,

The moronic troll confuses insult with attack. Possibly, because the words are in English!

Ok, so explain the difference of the words, as it pertains to you attacking me on Christmas day.

Go for it.

You make 2Hotel look smart.

Proof lies again,

The link is there for sane people to judge. Hmmm. Who does that leave out???

This is from a guy that kept posting Texas Castle law and denying it conclusively said that it enforced a citizen's rights to defend not only his property, but his neighbor's property as well, cutting and pasting it over and over again, and when you did look at it, it said that it did defend a citizen's right to not only protect his property but his neighbor's as well. So, it thereby contradicted his point and supplanted the other poster that affirmed that it did.

Clown.

"I only counter attack"