Final Presidential Debate Open Thread
The final presidential debate will air live tonight at 8:00pm central time (9:00 eastern). If you’re watching, discuss it below.
C-SPAN will have live online video of the debate if you aren’t near a television.
Thursday, October 16, 2008
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Equal pay for equal work? How about starting with your own staff, Barry!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
I think if I was being treated unfairly I’d find another job.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Obama on the Supreme Court: “the court has to stand up if nobody will”
Stand up for what, Barack?
Infaticide!
The Supreme Court follows the Constitution and not guidelines set by Congress.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Way to hit him on infanticide John.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Stand up for what, Barack?
Fairness. Like spreading the wealth…
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
This is good stuff- “I don’t know how you vote present”
Vote “Present” - Yeah bring up his record or lack thereof
Partial-birth abortion pictures.
That’s what McCain is talking about in regards to Obama supporting.
Barry’s lying again on infanticide.
This makes it fair game to hammer him on it over and over.
So why would you vote against it if it was wrong.
They don’t take the Hippocratic oath anymore moron.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
The bill he is LYING about was killed in his committee.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
I’d do backflips for $800 medical insurance!
I pay zero, and I want to continue to pay Zero.
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That helps the mother’s health, how?
Obama is shameless.
Where is the common ground between “Life” and “Death”
he just said that he didn’t vote against the bill. that is a damn lie. Now he is against late-term abortion? yes, now he is talking about educating youth. 1st graders getting sex ed.
Here we go.....
obama wants to give sex ed instead of preventing murder.....
Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?
McCain is calling Obama on the “health of the mother” tripe.
About time.
Stankitized changes the subject away from Obama’s stinky record on abortion!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Obama wants to brainwash kindergarten kids about sex and I suppose birth control.
Is that what he was talking about.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
McCain said “I don’t know how to vote present”
Translation: I don’t understand the fundamentals of my job!
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Thank the teacher’s union!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Vouchers!
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
There’s never been a country on earth that survived under Marxism either
I don’t understand the fundamentals of my job!
Translation to English: McCain isn’t afraid to take a stand.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
No early child education doesn’t improve education.
Head Start is free daycare.
How much more are we going to pay.
Government has made college too expensive. More government won’t help.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Obama wants to brainwash kindergarten kids about sex and I suppose birth control.
Is that what he was talking about.
Might as well....He already has the teachers wearing his pins to indoctrinate those too young to vote
Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?
Cool a $4000 credit for tuition ... all I have to do is help ACORN fraudulently register voters.
We spent 45 years defeating the Marxists in the old Soviet Union. Now, 18 years later we are electing a Marxist to lead our country .... nice!!!
McCain said “I don’t know how to vote present”
Translation: I don’t understand the fundamentals of my job!
The REAL translation for the kiddie pool impaired:
I don’t know how anyone could be so GUTLESS as to vote “present” instead of taking a stand one way or the other.
Go play in traffic, infant!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Blah blah blah. Teacher union propaganda. You have the kids for 7 hours. The parents have them for 3.
What a bunch of crap.
Choice and competition on schools. Nice one Mac.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Deriding “the health of the mother”???? Final Nail, meet McCain campaign coffin.
McCain on the school solution: “choice and competition, amongst schools”
But McCain, Democrats aren’t pro-choice.
Libs supposedly like choice except when it goes against the teachers unions and other Democrat special interests.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
School choice! McCain shows who the real “pro-choice” candidate is! Obama is merely pro-abortion!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
dannyboy - Deriding “the health of the mother”???? Final Nail, meet McCain campaign coffin.
Here’s your “health of the mother”.
The nails in the coffin are your nails for the coffins of the babies.
thank you for the pictures, liqwid. this is a subject very important to me. charter schools, christian schools yes! armies of new g’ment school teachers w/ more $$-NO< NO !
Taking local control away from schools will backfire for nObama.
Education is a state and local obligation moron.
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Obama thinks it is all about money.
Deriding “the health of the mother”???? Final Nail, meet McCain campaign coffin.
dhimmiboy: The “health of the mother” is not an issue in partial birth abortion. If you would educate yourself about it, you might not embarass yourself quite as much.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
What about that, Senator?
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The government knows what is good for you vs you know what is good for you
A great ‘first beginning’.
Ole silver tongue is wearing down. 
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Competition and choice are the way to make education more affordable.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
"Who supports vouchers.”
LMAO!
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Where is obama’s clock?
Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?
-The voucher Nazi.No choice for You!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Nice interruption John - give him a taste of his own crap.
Uh - uh - uh
Nice ending John
Sen maccain is right on vouchers, o just said so. o has stuttered and lied throughout this. i don’t care what anyone says. i still say mac has done the best.
McCain’s take on Obama’s tortured school voucher position: “There’s not enough vouchers, therefore we shouldn’t do it, even though it is working.”
RIGHT ON!
I have to say this was pretty enjoyable and McCain did a great job.
Wiped the floor with him
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
McCain kicked but tonight. Where was this man in the last two debates..?
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Obama wasn’t very articulate and bright with his uh,..uh,..smirk,..uh,..um debate tonight.
McCain has a good reason to smile tonight!
McCain clearly won this debate. It wasn’t even close.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
This was a good debate. How long until the moderator is called a racist for allowing John to have so many last words..?
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I think John did well. Of course the media will say he lost, but I think maybe, just maybe, he opened a few eyes with the Obama talk exposure.
I really do find it hard to believe that people haven’t already made up their minds and have long ago.
Who are these undecideds? Anybody ever met one?
McCain did well.
THe final difference for me is that I want an American in office.
They should be firstly an American & lastly an American.
THey should feel no need to call themselves anything but an American.
Usually, both candidates fill that litmus test.
This time, both don’t.
Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?
I thought Bob Schieffer did a good job as a moderator. It was more lively than the last two debates for sure.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Dougee,
I agree with the moderator comment. But mark my word, he will be called a racist because he did not let Barry have the last word on many topics. He changed the subject without letting the one spit out another lie answer.
It will happen. Watch.
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I’m sure someone was timing the total response times on each candidate.
On at least 2 occasions, it appears that obama hadf a much longer response that mc cain had.
Time will tell, though.
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Also, Drudge has it 75% for McCain
Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?
Joe the plumber. This line is going to get interesting. The spread the wealth line is Barry’s biggest blunder.
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I’m more comfortable about hearing Joe the plumber than “soccer mom”
What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity? I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.
Reb,
I know the parts you are speaking about. But there were segments that Bob stopped comments and moved on. At that time, John started the comments, and had the last word. Just something I noticed.
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P.S. Would Obama pass a background test to serve in someone’s administration..? That is a good question.
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atease, you are probably right. I am sure the Daily Kos will tell Olbermann to atack Bob tomorrow night.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
It will be one long, hilarious road to watch everyone kicking and screaming while McCain loses.
Learn from it though. Grow some balls, put away the words Communist and MSM (just for a little bit), and take a good look at your party and why the American people are rebelling against them.
For starters, take a longer look at what Mike Huckabee could have done for you. Hell, take a look at any candidate that clearly campaigns on THEIR VALUES instead of the vogue anti-liberal talking points of the day. That may work on douchebags like Gore or Kerry, but not a strong candidate. Get puppets like Romney, Thompson, or Guiliani out of the debates and more fiscal conservatives in. That’s a war you can win.
McCain FINALLY called Obama on being nothing more than a good used car salesman!!! Why didn’t McCain do this sooner?
My only concern is that the average Obama voter isn’t knowledgeable enough to see through the lies and lacks the motivation to actually look at the voting records, the facts, the history and the character of the two candidates.
I think the reason Obama wants to throw more money at the current education system is because it produces more of his voters. If the education system actually worked, he’d lose his voting base.
The spin whizzes.....
Many outlets call obama a big winner due to not seeming bothered.
Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?
Do you suppose the main stream media is frantically researching if Obama lied when he said he did not launch his politically career in Ayer’s living room.
Well, if nothing else, Joe the plumber knows now what to put on the side of his trucks and name his new business.
Do you suppose the main stream media is frantically researching if Obama lied when he said he did not launch his politically career in Ayer’s living room.
I doubt the MSM will fact check any of Obama’s answers. I didn’t hear much about Biden’s many lies in the veep debate.
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Gentlemen and Gentlewomen,
I hate to rain on your parade, but what I saw was undeniable. Obama has come out of the debates having, for all intents and purposes, put the suspicions to rest among independents. This looks to be enough to win the election barring some unforeseen situation. McCain has failed to put the nail in Obama’s political coffin in spite of having numerous opportunities to do so. McCain could have said something to the effect of: Accepting for the moment that you didn’t launch your campaign from Ayer’s living room, just how uncomfortable do you have to be with America to be comfortable even being in Ayer’s living room?
Folks, we the citizens are going to have to be extremely vigilant over the next four years. We are all that stand between liberty and liberalism.
Get puppets like Romney, Thompson, or Guiliani out of the debates and more fiscal conservatives in. That’s a war you can win.
You clearly know what you are talking about if you removed Thompson and Romney from that statement.
but not a strong candidate.
Another insight into your mind. Barry has not been a good candidate. He may have run a good campaign, but both Kerry and Gore were stronger candidates.
ReasonableDoubt, while I will thank you for the advise, the dem party needs your wisdom just a little bit more.
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Excuse me, you were saying?
Isn’t that cute! Another Kosling trying to crush our spirit using nothing but an inane picture! Have a cookie, boob!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Last call for starboard passengers, life boats are filling fast.
Excuse me, you were saying?
You clearly know what you are talking about if you removed Thompson and Romney from that statement.
You’re going to lose and failing to see through candidates like these is why, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Gratz on supporting someone who’s made their fortune eliminating American jobs though.
Another insight into your mind. Barry has not been a good candidate. He may have run a good campaign, but both Kerry and Gore were stronger candidates.
Brilliant insight. Gore caused one of the greatest Democratic schisms in recent history. His fake environmentalism and spineless, corporately sponsored voting record destroyed his credibility. Very strong candidate indeed. Kerry slipped into the nomination when Dean went all wacko. He is a rich Massachusetts liberal with a mixed voting record neither side really likes. America disliked him so much he lost to a president with a very low approval rating… strong candidate indeed. For more information on this fun topic, SEE ANY RECORD OF DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTER TURNOUT.
ReasonableDoubt, while I will thank you for the advise, the dem party needs your wisdom just a little bit more.
They seem to be doing alright without me. I could take a moment to teach you how to spell the word advice though if you’re interested?
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
RBB delivered the picture. You (cons&neocons)delivered 1000 words.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
RBB delivered the picture.
Usually hotlinked from other sites.
I just spent the last 15 minutes switching out hotlinked pictures from his many blog postings.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
Unfortunately, with rbb, it’s just the word “Pocketa” repeated a thousand times!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
I just spent the last 15 minutes switching out hotlinked pictures from his many blog postings.
He has been known to steal his posts without attribution. Why would it surprise you that he would steal bandwidth from others, too?
That’s gratitude from a liberal!
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Why would it surprise you that he would steal bandwidth from others, too?
I was never comfortable with calling it bandwidth theft, but it is definitely rude and ignorant net behavior.
And it seems that no matter how many times I told “realitybased"bob about this behavior, he still does it.
but it is definitely rude and ignorant net behavior.
And it seems that no matter how many times I told “realitybased"bob about this behavior, he still does it.
Ah! But, if boob had the capacity to learn from his mistakes, he wouldn’t be a liberal, would he? Heh.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Winner ? Of course Obama
Winner ? Of course Obama
He had a lot of good answers for a country called Soviet Russia.
My fellow Americans operation voter fraud would seem to be a success, I don’t see how we could believe a win by either party but I myself would like to see the largest voter turn out of all time if you care about this country go vote. Now that still leaves us with problems real problems in order to keep this country a democracy we must get rid of congress, all of them there is not a member of either party that warrants your trust or a second chance. They are greed and corruption incarnate, this we can only do as one people one country and they must pay for there crimes against us. If we allow them to do any more damage to us or our economy. As I already stated I swore an oath to protect this country from enemies foreign and domestic they are the domestic enemy the way they bat socialist slogans around in congress they are the enemy. We are in danger of losing what little freedom we have left what we already gave up we gave up in the name of security. What they are taking away now is the most basic right of one man one vote and once we lose that well all the rest must fall, we have failed to learn from history and indeed we are about to repeat it. Socialism and Fascism go hand in hand and to work the later you need an enemy to hold the attention of the masses I rather expect I will be that enemy. Me and those who would follow me this country was founded as a democracy and I will fight to the death to keep it one but we are now straying from that path and I now fear the direction that we are taking will bring us to disaster and our eventual fall if we do not effect change now. Not the change that either party has offered you they use the word change to grab you and give you hope but hope is the furthest thing from there minds, it is a distraction to once again get what they want more power more money and to rule over you as abject slaves. My country men and women you are worth more to me then that, Some of you have to see the truth of what I say, the time has come to choose sides. Not democrat and republican choose between right and wrong good and evil side with the federal government or choose democracy. I choose democracy and I will give my life for it I hope you choose to side with me. Because I cant do this alone some of you must see what has been happening in Washington DC. Give me liberty or give me death these are not just words to a patriot.
Gore caused one of the greatest Democratic schisms in recent history. His fake environmentalism and spineless, corporately sponsored voting record destroyed his credibility. Very strong candidate indeed.
Yes, strong indeed.
His winning the popular vote showed that more Americans wanted Gore not Bush for president .
McCain looked like an old fool with his shit-eating grin, but I won’t hold that against him.
Bringing up ACORN during the debate is a valid tactic, in terms of both voter fraud and judgement issues.
But if one considers that ACORN has been able to register over a million potential voters, wouldn’t McCain be stigmatizing and hence possibly losing the votes of whatever percentage of ACORN-registered voters who were actually registered legally and do not like being called names? Surely, they do not represent 100% of those registered by ACORN, but several hundred thousand nonetheless. And, how many of those stigmatized ACORN registered voters had planned to vote Republican? ACORN registration forms do not have a “party preference” box.
Another benefit of tactic is that there are voters legally registered by ACORN who might be led to think “Holy cow, ACORN is illegal; I ain’t going to no election booth just to find I can’t vote nohow.”
Yes. Good tactic, McCain.
His winning the popular vote showed that more Americans wanted Gore not Bush for president .
Pity he couldn’t manage to win the popular vote in his own home state.... or Clinton’s… or Florida!
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
And, how many of those stigmatized ACORN registered voters had planned to vote Republican? ACORN registration forms do not have a “party preference” box.
Guess you missed those interviews with the people doing the registering that were telling people to vote for nObama.
Not that all of them were doing that, of course - wink - wink .
I didn’t spend too much time listening to the usual campaign rhetoric, most of the time I was zapping over to the LA Philly game, regrettably just to see the Dodgers get hammered.
But if one considers that ACORN has been able to register over a million potential voters…
ACORN claims to have registered 1.3 million, but considering the level of fraud already uncovered, and the sheer number of state and federal investigations, not to mention the calls for a Special Prosecutor, the real question to consider is just how many of those claimed registrations are actually legitimate.
And that doesn’t begin to cover ACORN’s involvement in the sub-prime mortgage mess, or Obama’s dishonest attempts to distance himself from the corrupt ACORN.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
we are destine to loose what we will not fight to keep socialism is not the answer and that is indeed what will happen if we do not fight. im not talking about the election do you like what rights you have because you just lost your right to vote or did you blink and miss it.
but considering the level of fraud already uncovered, and the sheer number of state and federal investigations, not to mention the calls for a Special Prosecutor,
Scapegoating already? That was fast. You guys will be calling for impeachment in the first 3 months of the Obama presidency.
ODS.
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