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YES!!!!!!

Now I hope the rest of the people who had to endure these vile creatures disrpting what should have been their time sue them too. And take every damn thing they’ve got.

But, hey, that’s just me.

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Great verdict. I have witnessed their vileness while standing in flag lines at funerals. I agree everyone has the right to protest but there is a time and place for it, not at the funeral of a fallen soldier.

Tom, where you stand watch? I’m in PA, been toe to toe with this scumbag twice. He tried to have me PFAed and the Federal Judge in Pittsburgh smacked his ass down. I greatly enjoyed watching him stare at the floor and mumble till she ordered him to look up and speak clearly. What a fuckbag. He sends his daughter into PA now, he is scared we will have him arrested.

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Now we’re getting some place.

While the protesters were speaking out against exactly the type of thing the framers intended for them to have the right to do, there never was an intent to give anyone the right to disrupt privacy. There was also not an intent to allow vulgar or obscene language. In many democratic European countries, this is considered an assault punishable by fines and/or jail time.

The framers sought to guaranty political and religious freedom.

I hope the reason the jury took so long was deciding what to award as damages and not guilt. I also hope the punitive damages are equal to compensatory damages with a large positive exponent in this case, just to send a clear message.

I think that if they had kept it clean and done the protest properly, they would have been fine.  But to be vulgar, loud and disrespectful really ended up putting the proverbial nails in the coffin.  I think the fact that their vulgarity and disrespect was aimed at the soldier personally caused the final verdict. 

Obviously, the guy and his family are a little twisted and are really misguided if they claim that they do it in the name of God. 

They got their due.  But I see it going on to the court of appeals and possibly on to the Supreme Court also.

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Agreed, Donk, but this will send a clear warning to others of his ilk. Protest if you wish, but at the very scene of a funeral is off limits.

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They got their due.  But I see it going on to the court of appeals and possibly on to the Supreme Court also.

I really hope you’re right on that one Donk. I also hope the decision is supported all the way through the process just to clarify to those who seem to not understand that although speech is free, it’s often wiser to take a few minutes and think about what your message is and how you should present it.

I hate those effin “people”.  Just hate them.
One quibble:  What these pigs do is not “protest”.
It’s “demonstrate”.  Their hatred.  Their dark-heartedness.  Their need for a thorough ass kicking.
“Protest” implies that they have some agenda beyond hating everyone who isn’t them.

BTW, the jury just decided on the punitive, total loss for the clan is just under $11 million. I’d have liked to see it 2.9 to a minimum of the tenth power, but with the price of gas now-a-days this might slow them down..a little.

Y’all realize there’s going to come a day this Phelps clan is going to protest the wrong funeral and someone is going to die.

“Protest” implies that they have some agenda beyond hating everyone who isn’t them.

That could apply to the entire ‘hate Bush’ crowd of loonies couldn’t it?

Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

Jury came back, decided on $8 million in punitive damages, so about $11 million total.

Good thing this is a liberal blog opposed to tort reform, or you guys would be so pissed right now!

Dave, I beat you to the update. You would have known that if you had taken the 2 minutes to read the first 10 comments, anyway welcome to the party and don’t run away just because we’re both wearing the same dress.

2H9--live in North Dakota,stand flag lines here and Minn.

Hail and well met, Brother! Word around the campfire is these scumbags are going to be working your region a lot. They stay out of Texas and Fred himself travels very little. Seems as if there are a few warrants outstanding for him in several states.

And do not swing on any of these assholes. That is what they are working for, and they are really going to be pushing the lines after this.

Anna, you have no idea how true that is. They are, in fact, quite careful about where and when they show up. Want lots of witnesses, not too rural a location. We snatched they ass here in rural PA 3 years ago, they have refined their method since.

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I think that if they had kept it clean and done the protest properly, they would have been fine.  But to be vulgar, loud and disrespectful really ended up putting the proverbial nails in the coffin.  I think the fact that their vulgarity and disrespect was aimed at the soldier personally caused the final verdict.

Obviously, the guy and his family are a little twisted and are really misguided if they claim that they do it in the name of God.

They got their due.  But I see it going on to the court of appeals and possibly on to the Supreme Court also.

Donk, on your blog you say you think the ruling was wrong because it violates 1st amendment rights.  The way I see it, there’s a balance of rights.

Remember that citizens have a right to assemble as well as a right to free speech.  Why should your right to speech trump my right to assemble?

SCOTUS has long upheld time and place limitations on free speech, and I think this fits the bill.  When we’re talking about one persons rights intruding upon another’s, there’s got to be a balance.

As for Davey’s point about tort reform, I didn’t know that being in favor of such reform meant that you were against all civil relief for damages.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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Sorry, nothing in this ruling stops the Phelpsfuks from speaking. So the whole “freedom of speech” meme is BS.

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Tom and 2H9 -
God bless you for what you do.  I have been to soldier’s funerals and the impact you have on the families, whether there are protests or not, are immeasurable.

Thank you, and keep it up.

This is good. Your views may differ on the war, but at least have some respect for the dead.