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Monday, March 17, 2008

Farmers Gripe: 1/5th Of Money Spent On Food Isn’t Enough

This seems patently absurd to me:

JAMESTOWN (AP) — With food prices rising along with skyrocketing commodity prices, the North Dakota Farmers Union wants the public to know just how much of their food dollar actually ends up in the pockets of farmers.

The farm group on Wednesday is hosting ‘‘Farmer’s Share’’ meals throughout the state, inviting people to sit down for a spaghetti lunch and a little education.

Farmers earn just 20 cents for every dollar spent on food, state Farmers Union President Robert Carlson said. Non-farm-related costs, such as marketing, wholesale distribution and retail costs, account for the other 80 cents.

Let’s look at how a farmer’s crop typically makes it to market:

First, the farmer grows the crop and sells it.  Depending on the crop, sometimes its sold to a grain elevator which turns around and sells it to a food producer or sometimes its sold directly to the producer.  Either way, the producer then turns the crop into some sort of food product (bread, etc.).  Sometimes the producer turns it into an ingredient that is in turn sold to another producer.  Eventually the crop is made into a product and either sold directly to retailers or sold to them through a wholesaler.  The retailer then turns around and sells it to the public, often eating the price of product that goes unsold.

According to Supermarket News the gross margin for most retail grocers is about 25%.  If farmers are making 20% too that leaves about 55% of the income for the folks who turn the farmers’ raw crops into processed, packaged, marketed and transported food.  Given that this process often includes several other companies (transportation, etc.) I don’t think it’s entirely unfair that farmers “only” get 20%.

That seems rather fair.  After all, all the parts of this process are interdependent.  In order for farmers to get their crops (or the products resulting from these crops) into markets around the nation, and the world, they need these other players.

20% seems pretty equitable to me.

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Avatar for John D

And how much is the greedy oil company’s “excessive profit?”

About 10 cents on the dollar.

Fortunately Hillary is going to take their profist and use them for something useful.

John D on March 17, 2008 at 09:22 am

Back in the ‘90s, the Farmers Union had a little promotion where they handed out loaves of bread, with a sticker: “5 cents.” The made the point that farmers only got a nickel’s worth of the revenues off a loaf of bread. (Yeah, here it is—in Ed Schultz’s book, no less.)

So now it’s 20 cents? Hell, they’re making progress.

Pomerdorgrad on March 17, 2008 at 09:34 am
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North Dakota as an agricultural producer needs to move into the value added portion of agriculture and meat products. We ship the raw product out by the truck and train loads to distant cities so they can add the value, and the jobs, and the profits to their economy. We have the space, the climate, the transportation, the reasonable cost of power to do more; What we lack is investment money to upgrade our industry--it’s time our state leadership gets on a plan for longer term growth.

halatbis on March 17, 2008 at 09:50 am
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I dont think the point of the story was that farmers were complaining about only getting 20% of the cost of food, the point was that the cost of the farmers product, ie the grain, is not the main reason for higher food prices.

From later in the story than the section you posted.

‘‘Today’s high crop prices are being blamed for the rise in food costs,’’ Carlson said. ‘‘One myth is that the demand for renewable fuels has caused high corn prices, which in turn has led to higher food prices.

‘‘High energy costs, inflation, world markets and stock inventories are driving today’s food costs, not the prices farmers receive for their crops,’’ Carlson said.

Woody on March 17, 2008 at 10:00 am
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"Gross margin” is a poor metric for what you are trying to describe, Rob.  “Net margin” is better, but when applied to national grocery retailers, that figure also wraps up the totals for other goods other than groceries.  The conventional figure for profit margins on actual food is 2%-3%.

Like halatbis said, producing commodities is a low-margin exercise.  Are silica sand miners getting raped if they sell a pound of sand for a dime (or whatever) and Tiffany, Fenton, or Murano make an objet d’art glass masterpiece that weighs a pound and sells for $500?  The two figures don’t compare well and these farmers know it.  I’d expect nothing different from an entitlement class that is no better than the ocean of welfare mothers pumping out future welfare moms and babydaddys.  Agricultural subsidies distort supply and amount to a tax on food.

skh.pcola on March 17, 2008 at 10:58 am

Agricultural subsidies distort supply and amount to a tax on food.

Govt is a tax on the citizens, in everything it does.


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robert108 on March 17, 2008 at 11:32 am
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IS the union getting it’s talking points from “big oil”? Funny how this works, isn’t it? Socialism “hurts” everyone, period!

Kansasgirl on March 17, 2008 at 03:59 pm
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I dont think the point of the story was that farmers were complaining about only getting 20% of the cost of food

Then why did they compare the current rate to the rate in the 1950’s?

“Gross margin” is a poor metric for what you are trying to describe, Rob.

I didn’t pick it as a metric.  I was responding to the numbers they brought up.


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