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Sunday, September 09, 2007

Fargo Forum Big-Wigs Ride To The Rescue Of Fellow Liberal Ed Schultz

Jack “Fill In The Blanks” Zaleski, along with his editor Max Von Pinnon at the Fargo Forum, each have editorials up today providing a blatantly one-sided defense of fellow North Dakota liberal Ed Schultz.  You’ll remember that earlier this week Schultz kicked off a controversy by verbally attacking a man on his radio show that he admittedly got into a “shoving match” with in a Detroit Lakes bar.  Schultz read the poor guy’s phone number on the air in a thuggish attempt to ruin the man’s business and intimidate him personally, and also left out many of the details of the altercation subsequently provided by Nagle such as the fact that Schultz threw a punch that hit both Nagle and his fiancee.

Schultz also aimed his ire at the Fargo Forum, threatening to sue the newspaper for covering the story, something that has apparently prompted Zaleski and Von Pinnon to herd their publication back onto the liberal reservation and come (reluctantly in the case of Von Pinnon, I believe) to Schultz’s defense.

First, Zaleski’s column, in which Mr. Fill-In-The-Blanks somehow manages to make Schultz’s bar fight all about himself.  He claims that his critics “don’t know him” and ends his screed by scolding the public with a “stay the hell out of my face” admonishment to those who would approach the apparently (in Zaleski’s opinion) above-approach media big-wigs like himself and Schultz.

What’s unfair is that Zaleski mentions none of the details of Schultz’s bar fight.  He alludes to there being “two sides” of the story, and that’s fair enough, but he doesn’t mention Schultz’s rather childish threats to sue the Forum over it’s article about the incident.  Nor does it mention Schultz’s reading of Mr. Nagle’s business phone number on the air (you can listen to that here) or even allude the the fact that Schulz is being accused of throwing a punch at people who did nothing more than approach him in a bar and attempt to talk to him (or maybe harassed Schultz, if his version of events is to be believed).

Of course, Zaleski does describe the accusations Schultz makes in condemning Nagle:

...how dare anyone – in this case a rude California partisan – verbally accost him and his wife in a bar. From what we know, Schultz exercised restraint when one of the offensive boors used expletives to describe his wife, according to Schultz’s version of events.

Nice of Jack to give only one side of the story.  And call Nagle a “rude California partisan” while reserving no such invective for Schultz himself who behaved at least as bad as Nagle at the bar and worse after the fact once he went after Nagle using the bully-pulpit of his radio show.

I can understand Zaleski’s point about being something of a public figure and not wanting to be bothered during dinner, but throwing punches at people who anger you is never justified.  Zaleski completely lets “Big Eddie” off the hook, and it’s clearly (and pretty shamelessly) because the person who happened to approach Schultz that night just happened to be a nasty right-winger.  Or, in Zaleski-speak, a “partisan.”

Because we all know Ed Schultz and Jack Zaleski are paragons of objectivity.

As for Mr. Von Pinnon’s column, which is much more even-handed than Zaleski’s though is still something of a white-wash of Schultz’s actions, we do learn one interesting tid-bit of information.  Schultz apologists who have been swarming this site have claimed that Schultz didn’t instigate this controversy and that he was simply responding to the article from the Forum.  In reality, Schultz prompted the article himself when he spent 45 minutes talking about the incident on his local radio show after a Forum reporter called him:

...on Wednesday morning, Schultz spent 45 minutes of his local show defending his actions that Saturday night, which essentially involved an overheated and aggressive stand-off with a California man over political differences and the Iraq war. Schultz said he had to get his side of the story out – sort of a pre-emptive strike – because The Forum had called and was probably working on a story.

At that point, given all the attention Schultz and KFGO were giving this dust-up, plus the volume of tips we were receiving on the incident, we wrote a Wednesday story for our Web site entirely from Schultz’s comments on his own local radio show.

As I noted before, Nagle himself wanted this to go away.  The Forum wasn’t going to run a story.  It wasn’t until Schultz opened his big mouth and began attacking Nagle on the air that this all make it’s way into the public eye.

But, again, Von Pinnon treats this whole matter as though it isn’t even a story.  He doesn’t mention the fact that Schultz is accused of throwing a punch at someone who approached him a bar (and may or may not have insulted him), nor does he mention the fact that Schultz tried to intimidate Nagle and hurt his business by reading his phone number on the air.  These are hardly admirable actions, and one would expect at least a bit of chiding for Schultz from Von Pinnon.  But none was forthcoming, which is rather sad.

One wonders if it would have been a bit different were it conservative North Dakota talker Scott Hennen who was accused of throwing a punch.

Schultz should consider himself lucky that in his home state, where this bar-fight story is more of an issue than anywhere else, he is backed by a friendly and consistently liberal-leaning media conglomerate that owns most of the media outlets in the state.

Update: By the way, Von Pinnon’s revelation about the Forum apparently deciding to kill this story before Schultz went and talked about it on his radio show is pretty interesting.  Given the response I’ve gotten on the story, the public is clearly interested in it.

Just another instance of the arrogant media elite deciding for the rest of us what is and is not news.

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This part was my favorite.

I’m at the point (maybe Schultz is, too) where I don’t even want to be bothered in public by someone who liked what I wrote. Stay the hell out of my face (and his) when I’m trying to enjoy a quiet dinner and a glass of wine at a local restaurant.

Yes, we mere mortals are never to approach a member of the media elite when they are in a public place, especially the bankrupt wino, Jack the Hack and Alchy Ed Schultz.
Talk about a couple of self-important losers!

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By the way, Von Pinnon’s revelation about the Forum apparently deciding to kill this story before Schultz went and talked about it on his radio show is pretty interesting.

Yeah! Especially since he said the reason he was responding on the air was a newspaper article that hadn’t been written!
Media midget Ed Schultz lied about his motivation (big shock there!)for taunting Nagle on the air.
I guess if you can’t garner attention with the force of your intellect or the charm of your personality, you can always play the victim!
Bravo, Eddie! Well played!



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Proof on September 9, 2007 at 04:10 pm

The sad part is no one is listening to his show, he doesn’t have the numbers the big boys of the right have and now he has to invent something to get people interested in his show.


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goon on September 9, 2007 at 04:40 pm

So. Let me get this straight. It is perfectly fine for leftards like Ed"DaPutz" Schultz to verbally and physically assault anyone who does not bow down to his facist shit. Is that really the point of order they want to back? Cause if so, they are next. Ed"DaPutz" Schultz is the classic example of the leftard socialist fucking moron. Not another word needs written.

Good night, Gracie.


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2Hotel9 on September 9, 2007 at 06:29 pm
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I agree with all you guys. We should be more willing to accost liberal media idiots in public, when they’re clearly not working.

I have personally hand written several angry letters to Ed Schultz and he never responds to them. He’s afraid to engage in discourse, even in private. He hides behind his soundproof radio hole and yells about stupid lies.

And every time I call Jack the Hack at his office number, he never, EVER gives me more than 15 minutes to rant about whatever I feel like ranting.

So you know what? I’m going to hang outside their houses from now on, maybe even camp out in their boulevards and give them a piece of my mind.

Hell, I really like this idea, fellas. Next time I don’t get the attention I think I deserve from anyone, like the shitty Cable One customer service reps, I’m going to go to their homes, hangouts and places of worship to bother them with whatever trite Idea I’ve come up with.

Because that’s what America is all about. Being obnoxious. Hoo rah!

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Hiram, did anyone here imply that Ed Schultz or Jack Zaleski should have to cater to every yahoo who tracks them down in public?

No.  So the strawman argument isn’t working.

My point was that while the Forum hemorrhages readership, it’s probably not a good idea for someone like Zaleski to sit around and whine about the plebes who interrupt him while he’s sipping his wine.


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Rob on September 9, 2007 at 09:01 pm
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I know, right, Rob.

It makes perfect sense to do that. We need to knock the liberal media “elite” down a notch.

We don’t need the arrogant media elite deciding for the rest of us what is and is not news. So, I think the best tactic is for the rest of us to tell them what we think is and is not news in hopes that they listen. And if they don’t, at least their expensive liberal wine will taste a little sour.

Great idea, Rob! Love it. Love it so much. That dude from California is a true hero for us conservatives.

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So, Hiram, what exactly do you do at Forum Communications?


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I only ask because I think people commenting anonymously on a blog post about Fargo Forum editorials should at least have to disclose the fact that they’re Fargo Forum employees.  Or employees of that media group, anyway.

Sock puppetry is in fairly poor form on the internet.


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Rob on September 9, 2007 at 09:39 pm

Next time I don’t get the attention I think I deserve from anyone, like the shitty Cable One customer service reps, I’m going to go to their homes, hangouts and places of worship to bother them with whatever trite Idea I’ve come up with.

Hiram,

And when one of them takes a swing at you and misses, hitting your wife/girlfriend/significant whatever, you will of course, publicly congratulate him on the appropriateness of his response… right?

I do hate to be the one to break it to you, but sarcasm isn’t much of a weapon in your hands, Hiram.  Stick to straight forward, petty insults instead.  They won’t be any more effective, but you will surely save yourself the embarrassment.  Besides, you’ll fit right in with the rest of the liberal dullards.


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Bat One on September 9, 2007 at 10:37 pm
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Personally, I find sock puppetry to be a hilarious lost art form. The Muppets ruined it for me though.

I also enjoy the following: sarcasm, parody, pranks, hoodwinks, shenanigans and long walks on the beach. Oh and jokes. I really like those.

Some of us draw lines between work and the rest of our lives. While others find it perfect opportunity to stalk and harass people about their work, outside their working hours.

Honestly, I think everybody was wrong in the Schultz case. The idiot from California should have found an appropriate time and place to speak his mind and Big Eddie should have shown more restraint, off and especially on the air. Apparently idiocy and indecency knows no bounds.

Hiram Johnson on September 9, 2007 at 11:17 pm

On personal time. Got that? Got a beef with Ed? Call his show. Send him a sizzling e-mail. Call the other local talk radio shows and rant on. But how dare anyone – in this case a rude California partisan – verbally accost him and his wife in a bar. From what we know, Schultz exercised restraint when one of the offensive boors used expletives to describe his wife, according to Schultz’s version of events.

So is taking a swing at someone showing restraint? Not on your life. That is called an assult. So someone that questions you is an offensive boar? How about what you say on the air has consquences even when you sitting in a bar. Again I think the man is a bumbling cry baby and eventually his temper is going to be the end of his career.


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goon on September 10, 2007 at 01:15 am

appropriate time and place to speak his mind

Hiram Johnson, your statement astonishing me!
Are you suggesting that Mr Schultz or anyone, for that matter, should NOT be addressed while in the public?
Of course, I don’t know who you are or where you come from but, in my world, when one enters into the area that is accessible to anyone in general ... it is referred to as “PUBLIC”.
I believe, it is common knowledge that while entering into this, so called public area, will most certainly bring about contact with other people.
This, Mr. Johnson, is referred to as “SOCIALIZATION”. The concept of socialization is quite fun and rather easy to accomplish if you are skilled in that adeptness.
What I am trying to tell you Mr. Johnson, is when I am out and about in the public, I will talk to whomever I please ... I don’t care how important they fantasy themselves. If I would like to converse with someone in the public, I will not be requesting an appointment with them to do so.
Believe it or not, this Mr Schultz is NO DIFFERENT or MORE IMPORTANT than anyone else. He puts his shorts on one leg at a time just like everyone else. Or, should I have said panties in this case?
rolleyes Get with reality Mr. Johnson!
If Schultz is as highly and mightily “famous”, as he claims, should he not be accustomed to a variety of situations directed at him? Perhaps, this was the first time anyone has recognized him or even desired to speak with him ... without the security of four walls and a radio microphone, maybe it skeered the lil’ fella?
Ed Schultz could probably get a few pointers from Kid Rock ... you know, since they are both such famous public figures and all?


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Anna on September 10, 2007 at 01:53 am

First wadie, now Hiram. Ed"DaPutz" Schultz certainly pays a lot of people to do his talking for him.


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2Hotel9 on September 10, 2007 at 02:40 am
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GUYS ED SCHULTZ PAID ME FIVE DOLLARS TO COME HERE AND SAY THAT YOU’RE ALL RETARTDS

PAID BY ED SCHULTZ on September 10, 2007 at 04:40 am

Wow. I knew leftards were cheap, but that is embarrassing. Not even enough to buy a 6 pack. You need a better job. Try panhandling. It works for Ed.


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2Hotel9 on September 10, 2007 at 04:49 am
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THAT"S MY SECNOD JOB!!

PAID BY ED SCHULTZ on September 10, 2007 at 04:58 am

Well, secnod needs to pay you more.


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2Hotel9 on September 10, 2007 at 05:01 am
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[B][I][U]CAN I EAT YOUR CAT FOR DINNNER

PAID BY ED SCHULTZ on September 10, 2007 at 05:02 am

If you can kill her. She eating a squirrel on the front porch right now. Wanted to bring it in.


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2Hotel9 on September 10, 2007 at 05:06 am
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ILL ESETTLE FOR THE SQUIRLEL

PAID BY ED SCHULTZ on September 10, 2007 at 05:15 am

This exchange is pretty funny. This Ed Schultz guy, what a dangerous prapagandist! He should at least buy keyboards that dont have capslock stuck on.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on September 10, 2007 at 05:29 am

I think there is a hindquarter left, though you got to fight her for it.

spark, secnod don’t pay them enough for good keyboards. They have to use the ones they get from the Salvation Army Store. I don’t think they have Ws either, wonder where they came from?


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2Hotel9 on September 10, 2007 at 05:33 am
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He should at least buy keyboards that dont have capslock stuck on.He should at least buy keyboards that do

nt have capslock stuck on.He should at least buy keyboards that dont have capslock stuck on.

IT"S NOT STUCK ON I"M HOLDING SHIFT RETARNTDUHHH

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