Famous Defense Lawyer Says Zimmerman Charging Affidavit Is “Unethical”

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For those of you who haven’t read the charging document, it’s right here, and you needn’t worry because it’s very short. Via Allah, here’s the crux of the prosecutions case which they think proves that Zimmerman is guilty of “unlawful killing of a human being” by “evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life” which is the standard set out for 2nd Degree Murder by Florida law:

It doesn’t take a legal expert to see that’s some pretty thin gruel. Alan Dershowitz, an actual legal expert what with his being perhaps the most famous legal defense attorney in the United States, thinks the charging affidavit is downright unethical:

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So why would the prosecutor file such thin charges against Zimmerman? And why would she file them directly to the judge, instead of going before a grand jury?

As I speculated in my post yesterday, it’s almost assuredly political pressure. The prosecutor probably knows she doesn’t have a case. What she’s most likely doing is tossing a softball up before the judge hoping he’ll swat it down and be the bad guy.

Because there’s so much political furor surrounding this case – up to and including the President injecting himself into the matter – that the prosecutor didn’t want to take the heat for telling Travon Martin’s friends, family and the hordes of politically-motivated race baiters who have encircled them that Zimmerman really didn’t break any laws.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • 1philgray

    Zimmerman is innocent, except for racist, bigoted black people, and uneducated redneck white people who have not sat back and truly looked at evidence….I have read the transcript of charge and it is the biggest joke since the little boy cried wolf…
    There is nothing, I repeat, NOTHING, in the charge transcript that will EVER give any jury right to convict of 2nd degree murder…
    Hope someone sensible, the judge, will throw it out…
    Then watch the racist black pigs like sharpton, Holder, Obama, and Jackson, throw a cow….
    While these pigs are throwing a fit about this, and how fast the wheels of justice went on this case…..consider the raghead muslim terrorist Hassan,,,,,,is still awaiting trial for cold blooded terrorist hit on my brothers and sisters in the armed forces…
    Lets not forget the murdered federal border agent, whose blood drips from the hands of HOLDER, trying to set up a mock federal violation of gun laws, in order to attack the 2nd amendment…
    AND to think, we are worried about a punk 17 year old who assaulted a crime watch volunteer, only to realize to late, George was packing heat, felt onset concussion, and decided at the last moment to take Treyvon’s live to protect his…
    Some of us have been there real life…..other fake bloggers will talk the liberal talk….I hope someday you are in a real time war or a scenario where some punk, be it black, white pink, yellow, or brown, pulls a snub 38 on you….see what you do…..
    George Zimmerman is a hero to me,,,,until proven otherwise….
    Pathetic wimps….
    Bet there mom never worked a day in here life either……

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Some of us have been there real life…..other fake bloggers will talk
      the liberal talk….I hope someday you are in a real time war or a
      scenario where some punk, be it black, white pink, yellow, or brown,
      pulls a snub 38 on you….see what you do…..

      They will do what Treyvon did, defend themselves against a guy with a gun.  Treyvon had the right to stand his ground, he was chased.

      • Guest

         “They will do what Treyvon did, defend themselves against a guy with a gun”

        So you’re admitting that Treyvon was a fucking idiot going up against a guy with a gun while all he was armed with was a bag of candy. He was a bigger jerkoff than you are..

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          The affidavit shows that Zimmerman confronted Martin and when you are detained by a stranger who is stalking you with a gun, you have the right to beat that persons ass for fear of losing your life.

          As reported by the Sentinel:

          “During this time, Martin was on the phone with a friend and
          described to her what was happening,” the affidavit said. “The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn’t know why.”

          Martin tried to run home, the affidavit says, but was followed by Zimmerman. “Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed Martin.”

          The affidavit goes on to say that “Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher” who told him to stop, and “continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home.”

          Zimmerman, the affidavit says, “confronted Martin and a struggle ensued.” According to the affidavit: “Trayvon Martin’s mother has reviewed the 911 calls and identified the voice crying for help as Trayvon Martin’s.

          Zimmerman shot Martin in the chest.”

          Read more: http://globalgrind.com/news/probable-cause-affidavit-released-trayvon-martin-shooting-case-details#ixzz1s1yUZkoA

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Oh, and the judge found probable cause to hold Martin on the murder charge.

          OUCH!

          • Guest

             The affidavit is just an accusation. There were judges that also found probable cause to hold OJ and Casey Anthony. OUCH!!!

            So you’re admitting that Treyvon was a fucking idiot going up against a
            guy with a gun while all he was armed with was a bag of candy. He was a
            bigger jerkoff than you are..

  • mikemc1970

    His nose looked broken to me.

    • SigFan

      Having been the recipient of a broken nose (sports – martial arts) multiple times myself I can say that if it wasn’t broken in this altercation it has been at some point. 

      My guess is that the prosecutor is just trying to keep the heat off herself and knows that eventually the court will throw the charges out or acquit.  That way when the BPs start their riots she can shrug and claim that she tried.

  • Bat One

    Alan Dershowitz, a REAL Constitutional Law professor, is also a registered Democrat, a devout liberal, and a man who believes fervently in the rule of law and not the sort of braying, race-baiting mob that’s pursuing George Zimmerman.

    • Dakotacyr

      When he supports your contention.  

      • Bat One

        Really?  And what IS  my contention exactly?  What is it exactly that Dershowitz supports here?  Can you explain for us why the eminent Professor Dershowitz is wrong in his assessment of how the prosecutor has gone about charging Mr. Zimmerman?  Can you explain for us how Florida’s so-called “stand your ground” law impacts the prosecutor’s decision?  Have you even read that law?  And what about the grand jury/indictment route?  Would that have been a preferable approach to the Zimmerman case?  Do you even know the difference?

        I didn’t think so!

        • Camsaure

          Bullseye, You sure slapped the Cryer silly on that one.

  • Dakotacyr

    And I dare say if the tables were turned and it was a 17 year old boy walking home in the rain with a bag of skittles and ice tea and a black man shot him, he would have been in jail that night.

    • Bat One

      Moron!  There were 120 murders in Chicago in the first 3 months of this year.  Most of those were shootings and a majority of the victims (many of whom were simply innocent by-standers) were Black.  So please show me where you’ve expressed your indignation over any of those killings, you hypocritical POS.  You liberals howl like heart-broken schnauzers over the Trayvon Martin killing, with all the outrage your race-baiting pea-brains can muster, but when Chicago’s black residents suffer an epidemic of killings, all you can talk about is raising taxes.  Phooey!  Calling you a moron was an insult to other morons.

      • Dakotacyr

        so  you will just change the subject.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Yep, he doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to simply look at the facts of this case and come to a rational conclusion that this is an injustice to all of us, not just Treyvon.

          This basically gives people the right to strap, hunt you down for walking the street, stop you and detain you and then when you get scared because they are not police and you defend yourself….you can get killed.

          Americans won’t accept this, and they shouldn’t.

          • Bat One

            It would be less of an “injustice to Treyvon [sic]” if you bothered to spell his name properly.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It’s typical of you to overlook the argument in favor of making a silly point about spelling someone’s name.

          • Econwarrior

            You’re the one who always squeals about spelling, little hanni.  Take your own medicine.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            But I don’t overlook the argument in the process.  That’s Poofy and Bat’s method of avoiding embarrassment.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             Ah, little obsessed troll! Still trying to get my attention, eh, Tiny Fruitcake? We often point out your spelling errors not only because they are so frequent and egregious, but often you make the errors in a sentence where you decry someone else’s intelligence. And then, you pretend to know the English language better than we.

            You are a walking gold mine of unintentional comedy.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy, I often point out your spelling errors, especially when they are in a sentence where you decry someone else’s grammar.

            Take the log out of your own eye before you remove the splinter in the eye of another.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            The projection is very strong with you today, Hanni. Or perhaps, it’s just the smell of the damp, yellow stained “boardies”? 

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             BTW, if you want to quote scripture, how about you look at the one about “bearing false witness”, you lying little weasel?

          • ellinas1

            Hanni and you are arguing like little children.
            Enough already.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            poof, it’s hilarious that your last two comments follow each other.

            Oh, Magoo, you’ve  it  again.

          • ellinas1

            Poofy and you are arguing like little children.Enough already.

          • Neiman

            Looking in that mirror again?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             That’s what I feel like telling you all the time, after about the 15th “f*ck your mother”, “goat f*cker” comment from you.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             Besides, ellinas, I’ve told Hanni repeatedly that anytime he wants to stop lying about me, I’ll stop telling the truth about him.

      • $8194357

        To excell at being a leftist moron….
        One needs to really be a lesson…

        Needing a lesson on truth and factual history..
        Needing a lesson on treating folks with civility..
        Needing a lesson on individual responsibility…
        Needing a lesson on God given Freedoms and Liberties not coming from state……..
        Ect…Ect…Ect…

    • HG

      If, If, If….

      Zimmerman was cuffed, taken to the police dept. and questioned for five hours — That night!

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        And let go.

        • HG

          And if Dershowitz turns out to be right, then they didn’t have enough to hold him on, and he’ll likely be let go again.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            If, if, if….

            Nobody should have the right to strap, hunt you down for walking the street, stop you and detain you and then when you get scared because they are not police and you defend yourself….you can get killed.Americans won’t accept this, and they shouldn’t.

          • Econwarrior

            None of those things happened, little hanni.  A violent Dem thug attacked a Dem neighborhood watch guy, and got shot in the bargain.  His choice, as he could have run away.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             Treyvon was shot only 70ft from the house he was staying in.  Conservatives just have a blood lust for dead black teens.

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/12/what-got-george-zimmerman-charged-with-second-degree-murder.html

          • Guest

             Since you know exactly what happened, where it happened, how it happened and why it happened, you should just fly to Florida and be the key prosecution witness. Think of all the attention you’d get.
            You jerkoff.

          • Guest

             Again you say Martin was “hunted.” sucker.

          • moors710

             Was Zimmerman hunted by a stronger larger person and not killed because he defended Himself?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            No, Zimmerman was the stalker and he weighed almost twice what Treyvon weighed, and did I mention he was strapped?

          • Econwarrior

            You continue to lie, little hanni.  Zimmerman observed a prowler; there was no “stalking”, and Trayavon was 6’+, while Zimmerman is 5’9″, and they weighed the same.  Your story is false.
            Zimmerman didn’t use his gun until after he was attacked.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Well, that’s an outright lie,

            Zimmerman: He was reported as being 5’9″ tall and weighing approximately 190 lbs. as of April 3, 2012

            According to the Sanford police incident report of Trayvon Martin’s death, he was 6’0″ tall and weighed 160 pounds

            Treyvon was not prowling, he was simply walking with a hoodie…..in the rain, while black.

          • Pat

             “Treyvon was not prowling, he was simply walking with a hoodie”

            You don’t know what that kids intentions were.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Yes we do, sockpuppet.  He was intending to get back home to give his brother skittles, that’s a fact according to his familiy.  You guys on the other hand attribute criminal activity to his actions without ANY EVIDENCE.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Big 180 McCain voter, according to the actual police report, the victim was 6 foot tall and weighed 160lbs. http://www.scribd.com/doc/86948628/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Report

            But please go on with your lies.
            They amuse me.

          • Econwarrior

            Liar: Zimmerman is slim, and is listed at 178 pounds, even though the MSM lied and originally said he weighed over 240.

            Like you, they lied.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Perhaps the killer is slim now. His mug shot tells a different story, doesn’t it, Big 180 McCain voter?

          • Econwarrior

            Liar; the picture at the top of this article shows Zimmerman in his present state: slim.  The  so-called “mug shot” was from 5 years ago, and is part of the lying propagandfa from you and other left wing liars, designed to give a false impression. Zimmerman was defending himself from a vicious attack.

          • Hanni

             Since he’s slim now, perhaps scumbags like you used an older photo

          • No

             Martin: 6’1-6’3″

            Zimmerman: 5’9″ Strapped and holstered.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            According to the Sanford police incident report of Trayvon Martin’s death, he was 6’0″ tall and weighed 160 pounds.

            George Michael Zimmerman[30] was born on October 5, 1983, in Virginia,[31] the son of Robert Zimmerman Sr, a retired magistrate,[32] and Peruvian-born Gladys Zimmerman.[3][33][34] He was reported as being 5’9″ tall and weighing approximately 190 lbs. as of April 3, 2012.

            If Zimmerman’s gun was holstered, how could he shoot Treyvon with it?

            You are a liar and dishonest.  This is why you won’t use your real handle, you won’t sully your user name with your  lies.

          • Bill

             The gun was holstered until he needed it. Are you saying that the gun was out and Martin was fool enough to go up against Zimmerman  unarmed?
            Real name is Bill, but obviously you believe what ever suits your needs.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Do you have a link that proves his gun was holstered “until he needed it”?  Didn’t think so.

          • two_amber_lamps

             Do you have a link otherwise?  Silence twit!

          • Bill

             If you’re saying that the gun was unholstered, then you’re also saying that Treyvon was fool enough to go after someone who he could see had a gun.
            v

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Bill, you said his gun was holstered.  Do you have a link to prove his gun was holstered?  Zimmerman said that Treyvon struggled to take the gun from him.  Either Zimmerman was lying or you are.  Which is it?

            The stand your ground law allows Treyvon to beat his ass for illegally detaining him by gunpoint and scarring the youth to the point where he had to defend his life.

          • Bill

             If you’re saying that the gun was unholstered, then you’re also saying
            that Treyvon was fool enough to go after someone who he could see had a
            gun.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             Bill, you said his gun was holstered.  Do you have a link to prove his
            gun was holstered?  Zimmerman said that Treyvon struggled to take the
            gun from him.  Either Zimmerman was lying or you are.  Which is it?

            The stand your ground law allows Treyvon to beat his ass for illegally
            detaining him by gunpoint and scarring the youth to the point where he
            had to defend his life.

            You operate a lot like HG.

          • Guest

            ” he weighed almost twice what Treyvon weighed”

            Zimmerman doesn’t look like he weighs 320 lbs. you lying sack of shit.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Zimmerman weighed a lot more than 160lbs, you lying sack.

          • Guest

             He might have weighed 190, you piece of shit.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    My advice to anyone who lives in a large city is to watch your back. A segment of our society has been emboldened for revenge and our AG will not defend your safety.

    • SigFan

      Sad but true.  Even here in Pittsburgh, which doesn’t generally have these kinds of problems we’re starting to see signs of open hostility.  Of course local law enforcement seems to be oblivious to it.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    ignorance is bliss, isn’t it Dako?

    • $8194357

      And these lefties are some gay and happy fellows…Almost “blissfull”..

  • No

    Does anyone expect the mother to say that the cries for help weren’t from her son? She’s been told what to say to keep the fingers pointing at Zimmerman. Treyvon, 6’1″-6’3″ football player crying for help while he’s beating the shit out of 5’9″ Zimmerman, I don’t think so.

    • mickey_moussaoui

      Travons mother has said that it may be self defense for Zimmerman. I suspect that the police have given her the inside lead on where this case will end up. It is unfortunate for both parties that neither party is innocent.

    • Dakotacyr

      Why didn’t he stay in his vehicle as told to by the police?

      • Hal706

        You don’t know the facts so stick a sock in it for once.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          The facts are that Zimmerman got out of his car and followed Treyvon.  You watch too much Fox News.

          • HG

            Not illegal.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Hal (you) said that he did not know the facts that Zimmerman got out of his vehicle or not.  It is a fact that he got out of his vehicle, the legality of it is not the discussion.

            You can hang your hat on that thin reed, but if Zimmerman didn’t follow Treyvon or pretend to be a cop, Treyvon would be alive, not dead, and assholes like you wouldn’t be hiding behind the law of “self-defense” when Treyvon was the one being stalked by a guy with a gun and if anyone has a right to self defense, it’s Treyvon, not Zimmerman.

          • HG

            As usual, you’re horribly wrong.  First, my handle is HG not Hal, nor have I ever used that handle. 
            Second, following a suspiscious person is perfectly legal and the rigth thing to do, armed or unarmed. 
            Third, we don’t know who initiated the confrontation for sure, yet.  We also don’t know if Treyvon knew Zimmerman was armed.  However, it could be possible that Treyvon felt threatened and acted in self-defense.  If so, that doesn’t mean that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense.  We just don’t have all the facts yet.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            We do know who initiated the confrontation.  Zimmerman was starring at him in his car, got out of his car and went looking for him.  That’s confrontational, buddy.

            Furthermore, we know Treyvon was felt threatened by the conversation he had with this girlfriend, or don’t black witnesses count?

            We have facts, you just don’t like them.

          • moors710

             So if someone stares at you from his car and gets out, you have the right to pounce and beat him to death, but he does not have the right to defend himself because you are unarmed?
               By this logic then If I hire a set  of thugs to  beat someone to death then I am free of guilt because the thugs I hired were unarmed. 
              The concealed carry and right to self defense laws are written for just such cases. 

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            When a stranger is stalking you with a gun, stops you, confronts you and tries to detain you to the point where you fear for your life, you have a right to stand your ground to the death.

            Stand your ground doesn’t give you the excuse to hunt people down, detain them, scare them to the point where they feel threatened then shoot them after you are losing a fight that you created by making them believe they need to stand their ground.

          • Bill

             “When a stranger is stalking you with a gun, stops you, confronts you and tries to detain you…”

            Please link us to any source of information that will prove your version of what happened, including any fact that will prove that Zimmerman had his gun out, or that Martin knew that Zimmerman had a gun and was trying to detain him.
            Thanks

          • moors710

            A Sanford police incident report says Trayvon was 6 feet tall and weighed 160 pounds. A spokesman for the family’s lawyers gave a slightly different set of numbers: 6 feet 1 and 150 pounds. Zimmerman is 5 feet 9 inches tall, according to the police report, but it is silent about his weight. A family member says he currently weighs about 190 pounds. Zimmerman used to be far heavier. A 2005 police report put his weight at 250 pounds, but security camera video released last week by Sanford police show him to be much trimmer.

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            Hannitized, Proofs obsession wrote, in response to moors710:
            When a stranger is stalking you with a gun, stops you and confronts you and tried to detain you to the point where you fear for your life, you have a right to stand your ground to the death.
            Stand your ground doesn’t give you the excuse to hunt people down, detain them, scare them to the point where they feel threatened then shoot them after you are losing a fight that you created by making them believe they need to stand their ground. Link to comment

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             Yes, you are correct, Zimmerman is much heavier than Treyvon, Robert lied.

          • Econwarrior

            Zimmerman is not “much heavier” than Trayvon, little hanni; you continue to lie.

          • Bill

             “Yes, you are correct, Zimmerman is much heavier than Treyvon,”

            And treyvon could run a lot faster than Zimmerman.

          • Hal706

            You don’t know the facts.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Here’s the facts:

            1)Treyvon feared for his safety.  His girlfriend confirmed.

            2) Zimmerman stalked Treyvon after starring him down and acting odd.

            3) Zimmerman confronted Treyvon and asked him what he was doing in that area.

            4) Zimmerman said there was a struggle for the gun.

            5) They fought.

            6)Treyvon stood his ground

            7)Zimmerman killed Treyvon.

          • Todd

             Conversation with his girl friend…but didn’t you previously claim that Martin had called 911 himself?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            According to reports, he did both.

          • Todd

             Do you have a link to the report that indicates he called 911, and not just someones guess work or opinion?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Yes.  Do you have a link that explains why you are so uninformed and ignorant of the case?

          • Todd

             “Yes.  Do you have a link that explains why you are so uninformed and ignorant of the case?”

            Please provide the link, unless you can’t because it doesn’t exist. I hate to break your bubble, but, until the trial, everyone is ignorant of the facts until they all come out.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             I can’t help it if you weren’t keeping informed on the reports.  I can only comment on what comes out in the news.  It’s your job to keep up, not my job to keep you updated, idiot.

            ABC News7 Chicago reports Trayvon Martin, the Sanford, Florida teen
            who was shot and killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer, allegedly
            made his own call to 911 just moments before his death.

            Mo’Kelly Radio reported
            on Mar. 24, also citing ABC New7 Chicago, that Trayvon made a 911 call
            shortly before his death and the FBI was attempting to determine if that
            recording captured Zimmerman’s voice in the background and, if so,
            could the audio be enhanced to more clearly hear what was said.

            Continue reading on Examiner.com Did Trayvon Martin make his own 911 call before his death? – National unsolved cases | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/unsolved-cases-in-national/trayvon-martin-made-his-own-911-call-before-his-death-fbi-investigates#ixzz1s2fFefW4

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          • Todd

             I find it a little strange that the alleged 911 call supposedly made by Martin wasn’t released. But, you can’t release something that doesn’t exist. Believing ABC, NBC or CNN after their doctoring of tapes is only for guys like you.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            But you believe Fox News that reports there was a struggle for the gun, and you probably believe the killer,  Zimmerman, who claims there was a struggle for the gun but then you also say he had the gun holstered.

            I can’t help it if you weren’t aware of the reports as they camp out.  I can only comment on them.

          • Todd

             “But you believe Fox News”

            I never said I believed there was a struggle for the gun, that’s what you say. You’re the one who believes the doctored tapes and reporting of ABC, NBC and CNN.

          • Bill

             ” pretend to be a cop”

            Please link us to a source that will prove your claim.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             http://www.neo-arcadia.net/?p=514

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            For more than a decade, George Zimmerman dreamed of a life in law enforcement — but instead of becoming a real cop, he lived out his big blue fantasy by tracking down stray dogs, “suspicious” children and other intruders in his gated Florida community.

            Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cop_wannabe_on_paranoid_patrol_lfV4L1N0W6y0mEwgoU0L7K#ixzz1s1sZxL1v

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             Please provide your regular handle, that you used to use on a regular basis.

          • Bill

            I see the links that you’ve provided are nothing more than someone’s opinion. No hard facts at all. I’ll wait for the trial when the real EVIDENCE comes out. So, forgive me if I just dismiss your beliefs as nothing more than you just hoping for the outcome you want. The “handle” is Bill, always has been.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Read the article:
             

            “He
            wanted to join the police force — either the State Police or the county
            police,” said George Hall, 78, a retired minister and longtime neighbor
            of Zimmerman in Virginia.
            “He asked me to write him a letter of
            recommendation, and I was glad to.

            Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cop_wannabe_on_paranoid_patrol_lfV4L1N0W6y0mEwgoU0L7K#ixzz1s1xB8slY

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof
      • HG

        The police never told him to stay in his vehicle.  A dispatcher told him “we don’t need to you to do that” in response to Zimmerman following him.

        • Econwarrior

          It’s remarkable how the left wingers seem to need to lie about the facts of this case, from doctored audio to the misleading pictures.  Why are they so afraid of the truth?

          • Demosthenes

             Why is it even either sides business, do they need to bias spin to catch more viewers? Why not just report the facts?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It was Michele Malkin who posted pictures of a black kids who weren’t Trayvon.  It was Fox News who has a reporter prepared to testify for Zimmerman and turned the channel into the Zimmerman defense station.

          • Econwarrior

            You just keep lying.  The pictures on the original story were of a 12-yr old Trayvon and a five year old picture of Zimmerman when he was a lot heavier.  Furthermore, he was described as a “white Hispanic”, which is an invented term to whip up racial hatred.
            NBC has not only admitted to doctoring the tape, but have claimed to have fired two people for the doctoring.  As usual, little hanni, you’re just making things up.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It’s true that Michele Malkin posted false images of another person she said was Treyvon, in order to make him look like a thug.  It’s true that Fox News is on a campaign to make Treyvon look like the aggressor when there was no evidence to support that, other than the killers word.

          • Econwarrior

            Trayvon was the agressor; all the physical damage was done to Zimmerman, except for the gunshot wound in self-defense.  The original deceptive pictures of Trayvon as a 12 year old were from the MSM.  The evidence of Trayvon’s agression is from the only eyewitness.
            You continue to lie and spin, little hanni.

          • No

             Uh….

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
  • Roy_Bean

    At this point, Zimmerman is in prison.  His choice when he wants to sleep is either have a uniformed guard protect him or just hope that the locks on his doors and windows hold up.  The black Ku Klux Klan has put a bounty on his head so no matter where he is he isn’t free.  The black Imperial Wizzard, Holder winks and nods to his Klan and won’t do anything about it.  When this was happening in Mississippi in 1965 Lyndon Johnson sent the FBI and put a stop to it.  I don’t have much faith in obama to live up to the legacy.

    • Demosthenes

       Honestly though, does anyone here really care if Zimmerman is alive or dead at this point? As previously pointed out, people in America are dieing everyday. I really don’t care about them anymore then I do about Trayvon or Zimmerman.

  • WOOF

    The vigilante pleads out or this goes to a jury, as it should.

    • Econwarrior

      The vigilantes here are the Democrats in the lynch mob.

    • moors710

       A vigilante would not have been in an altercation.  You are misusing the term Vigilante

  • conservativeagenda

    My husband and I just sent some money to his defense fund and we NEVER do stuff like that.

    • ellinas1

      What kind of stuff do you guys do?

      • $8194357

        You know E..

        sacrifice a child or two cause their ain’t no virgins left…

        Wait a minute..

        Democrats sacrifice the children on the “alter of womens rights”

        Not Conservitives…

        Dang dyslexia anyway…

        • ellinas1

          Is it your contention that conservative women do not get abortions?

          • $8194357

            I have simple contensions E…

            Mankind fell and needs a personal repentant relationship with its Savior for any hope for eternity…

            This world and life?
            Ehh not so much hope at all…

  • Sparkie Arbuckle

    Alan Dershowitz is a partisan hack, jackass.

    You were badmouthing him when he was going after Rumsfeld.  Now nothing but praise?

    • Bat One

      Strange, I don’t remember you excoriating him as a “partisan hack” when he was advising AlGore’s legal team in 2000 during Bush v. Gore.  Your problem with Dershowitz isn’t that he’s partisan, but that he’s a Jew.

      BTW, how IS your wife?

      • ellinas1

        Can you scoot any lower?
        Whatsamera with you?
        Want some cedar wood from Lebanon?  You know, the one that was cut down in 2005, and you claimed that Obama was president at that time?
        How is your main man Cain?

        • Bat One

          Mind your own fucking business, Asshole!!!  I asked about his wife because I’m aware from our previous conversations that his wife and mine share a particular medical condition.

          • Sparkie Arbuckle

            My wife is fine, thanks.  She’s got a shiny new job coming up later this summer, and she is in the process of bringing this little city to it’s knees.  She has perfected the let-them-think-I-am-a-clueless-pretty-bimbo-until-the-last-minute-when-the-long-knives-come-out.  That works incredibly well anywhere.  For some reason, ninety percent of dudes still think that the only smart women are ugly lumberjack types.  Advantage: my wife.  Soon she will be very powerful and very hated.  It’s going swimmingly in fact.  I give it about five years before you all know who she is and are screeching and crying on this very blog about her.  She’ll scare the bejesus out of ya.

            Also, this thing about me and the Jews is in pretty poor taste.  All of my professional recommendations are penned by Jews.  One of my former lovers was a Jew, and one of our closest family friends is a Jew.  It’s really frustrating that you cannot insult my reasoning, my profanity, or some other thing that might warrant insulting.Hint:  Just because someone doesn’t think we should give Israel a bunch of welfare money doesn’t make them a Jew hater.  Just like someone who doesn’t think we should give welfare money to minorities in the US isn’t necessarily a minority hater.  It’s just that simple.  I’m sure you can appreciate that since it’s your line of reasoning.

          • Bat One

            Your objection is duly noted.  Kinda like “some of my best friends are Black,” huh?

            BTW, Glad to hear she’s doing well.

          • $8194357

            (One of my former lovers was a Jew)

            Was his name “Judas”?

          • ellinas1

            Her name was Bar Rafaeli.

          • mickey_moussaoui

            Shouldn’t you be posting some of you kiddie porn?

          • ellinas1

            That’s you job, passion and vocation.

          • Onslaught1066

             That’s your cultural mores, predilection and inclination.

          • ellinas1

            I don’t have a fucking business to mind, Asshole!!!  I am retired.Let it be known that Sparkie has no problem with Dershowitz being a Jew.BTW, how IS your wife?

          • Econwarrior

            You lie again.  Little sparkie claimed that he had no idea that a guy named “Dershowitz” was a Jew.  That’s weapons grade stupidity.

      • Sparkie Arbuckle

        I had no idea he was a Jew.  Still, that changes nothing about your instrumental endorsement of Dershowitz.

        • Bat One

          But I haven’t “endorsed” Professor Dershowitz.  I’ve endorsed what he said about the Zimmerman prosecution.  I thought he was wrong in Bush v. Gore and as I recall, the Supreme Court agreed with my conclusion.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Is this where we’re supposed to note your race-baiting?  This is the sort of stuff you condemn when others do it.

        All Sparkie had done was to call you out on your hypocrisy and look how you respond.  Shameful.

        • Bat One

          From an idiot hack like you, “shameful” is a pluperfect compliment.

          One of the differences between the adults here, including Sparkie, and children such as you, is that the grown-ups are able to separate honest differences of opinion from hyperbole and keep those differences from becoming the sort of virulent personal animosities you favor.  Back when SAB was on a previous platform, the one with PM capability, there were plenty of conversations that went on via that route of which you were clearly oblivious… including my conversations with Sparkie regarding both our wives’ health issues.  Resolving the differences of opinion between Neiman and I and our subsequent mutual respect for each other was another such example.

          What’s interesting about this exchange this morning is that while you and ellinas wrongly saw my query to Sparkie (not to either of you!) as an attack (Freudian!) and an opening to attack me,  Sparkie saw my question about his wife for exactly what it was, and answered accordingly.  Obviously, your mind is set solely on attack on those with whom you disagree, and the idea of setting aside that disagreement for any other sort of conversation is simply beyond your poor, adolescent power to comprehend.  People here dislike you and how you conduct yoourself for a reason… which goes far beyond with the stupid shit you spew so regularly.

          If you were the sort of big boy you’d like us all to believe you are, you’d apologize for your wrong-headed inference and response to something which didn’t concern you at all.  That’s what grown-ups do.  But I don’t think I’ll hold my breath.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            …the grown-ups are able to separate honest differences of opinion from hyperbole and keep those differences from becoming the sort of virulent personal animosities you favor.

            So you call your behavior of saying his judgement is clouded based on his racially biased view “difference of opionion”?  Give me a fucking break!

            If any of us had said that to you we would get the lecture of how tedius, immature and illogical we would be to simply dismiss a difference of opinion based on racist points of view.  But when you do it……well, that’s different.  BULLSHIT!

            Furthermore, I removed my remark that you prefaced with all the disrespectful courtesy we see daily from Onslaught.  It was a reasonable conclusion, but one that I removed.

            So, you can go kindly kiss off.  I’m not really interested in listeining to your childish bellyaching.

          • Bat One

            Its just a suggestion of course.  But you really should try to stick with smaller sentences.  At least in English.  I can’t help noticing that the longer your sentences run on (and the more angry and frustrated you are when writing them) the more disjointed and unintelligible those sentences become.

          • ellinas1

            I have some Cedar wood from Lebanon.
            It was cut down in 2005, and President Obama did not object. He let Lebanon go to his marxist Muslim buddies, just like Reagan err,,,Clinton did back in 1983.
            Ya got no shame. 
            Whatsamera with you?
            I your buddy Cain doing OK?

          • Bat One

            Interesting the you bring up Lebanon.  I made a mistake, acknowledged and apologized for it.  You, on the other hand, got your panties in a wad, wrongly, about my query about his wife’s health, but you seem to have neither the integrity nor the balls to admit your mistake, even though its been clearly explained to you.  Why is that?  Something congenital, perhaps?

            Sparkie took my inquiry for what it was.  Is he really that much smarter than you?

          • ellinas1

            Bat One in reply to hannitized: “What’s interesting about this exchange this morning is that while you and ellinas wrongly saw my query to Sparkie (not to either of you!) as an attack (Freudian!) and an opening to attack me, …”Bat One to Sparkie: ”
             Your problem with Dershowitz isn’t that he’s partisan, but that he’s a Jew.”You did attack Sparklie you chickenshit con.The evidence is indisputable, you frigid race pimp and master bater.

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            Reply

          • Econwarrior

            No amount of lies and namecalling can cover up the fact that you are a compulsive liar with no argument whatsoever.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            …the grown-ups are able to separate honest differences of opinion from hyperbole and keep those differences from becoming the sort of virulent personal animosities you favor.

            So you call the action of stating his judgement is clouded based on his racially biased view is a “difference of opionion”?  Give me a fucking break!

            If any of us had said that to you we would get the lecture of how tedius, immature and illogical we would be to simply dismiss a difference of opinion based on racist points of view.  But when you do it……well, that’s different.  BULLSHIT!

            Furthermore, I removed my remark that you prefaced with all the disrespectful courtesy we see daily from Onslaught.  It was a reasonable conclusion, but one that I removed.

            So, you can go kindly kiss off.  I’m not really interested in listeining to your childish bellyaching.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             ” I removed my remark” One of the reasons I sometimes take screen shots of some of your more outrageously stupid or bigoted comments, so that when you try to re-write history, someone can call you on it.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             Whereas you ask Rob to delete the old blogs where your racism or attacks on veterans is clearly visible.

            Or how about the time where you lie about the first comment I made to Whistler who lied and claimed the NYT was THE Obama Camp and I correctly said they were not.  You have to change that entire argument to suit your narrowed view that fits your false stories.

            Good thing I actually know how to use Google, you….not so much.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            ScheißeForBrainsitized: I have never asked Rob to remove anything. That’s yet another lie through your fecal stained teeth. You, however, removed one of your uglier comments just today, by your own admission. I am not afraid of any comment I have ever written, unlike the lying, clueless noob with fecal stained teeth who has refused to claim around 10,000 of his comments (not even counting those of all his sock puppets!).

            I am not afraid of any post I have ever written. There is nothing for you to discover anywhere on the web that shows me to be a racist or disparaging of veterans.

            Despite you Googling my screen name, on perhaps a daily basis, little stalker, you have not been able to find a single post, a single comment or a single word of mine, in context, that proves any of your lies.

            It must really suck to be you, ScheißeForBrainsitized!

            Show us a screen shot of that first comment where you called Whistler “dumb” for “not knowing that camp is short for campaign”.

            The edited cherry picked spin you hack up is about as valuable as any of your hairballs.

          • ellinas1

            Bat One in reply to hannitized: “What’s interesting about this exchange this morning is that while you and ellinas wrongly saw my query to Sparkie (not to either of you!) as an attack (Freudian!) and an opening to attack me, …”

            Bat One to Sparkie: ”
             Your problem with Dershowitz isn’t that he’s partisan, but that he’s a Jew.”

            You did attack Sparklie you chickenshit con.
            The evidence is indisputable, you frigid race pimp and master bater.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Yep, dead center 10 ring.

          • ellinas1

            And to top that, the liar con(servative), tried to wiggle out making all kinds of excuses.
            Oh, fer shame.

          • Guest

             Sparlie despises Jews as much as he enjoys referring to his wife and inlaws as the “Spics”

          • ellinas1

            No he does not. Not agreeing with the policies of the Zionists, antiseminte one is not.
            I will not tell you what I call my wife and inlaws.I neither despise them, nor do I hate them.Question: Does your alter ego Onslaught despise Greeks? He does call them pederasts day in and day out.Hmmmmm?

  • $8194357

    Social justice vigilanteism….
    Rule by mob, Not rule of law rule…

  • Meyerjh

    And the great division of our country continues.  Whatever happened to the “One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all”? 

    Oh yes, the “under God” part has been removed, so the rest doesn’t apply any longer either.

    • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

      Under God..under God..say, was that bit in there when our Founding Fathers founded us?
      No?
      Why did they hate America?

      • Bat One

        … endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights…

        Ya mean that Guy?

        • Demosthenes

           That guy could also mean their fathers, their father’s fathers, Budda, Shiva, or any other being besides the Christian-Judeo God. Let’s be fair here the “Under God” was added fairly recently.

          • Bat One

            Okay, then … lets be fair.  “One nation under God…” says nothing about Buddah, Shiva, Jesus Christ or the man in the moon.  And for those not so willfully ignorant, there’s a message in that fact..

          • $8194357

            I just love it when someone besides me points out that

            “willfull” fact with these “used to be lemmings”

             turned

            “collaborators”..

            Look it up Quisling leftist asshats…Look it up…

          • Neiman

            I don’t wish to be rude, but it occurs to me to ask if your mother and father are also brother and sister, that we might try and discover the reason for such gross stupidity?

            While among our Founding Fathers you will find a few Deists, a code name for atheist politicians that wanted to fool the voters into supporting their desires for power and celebrity, I dare say you will not find among them any that were disciples of any other Deity than the one Almighty God of the Holy Bible. One need only look at the totality of their published words and public acts to see clearly that they were almost exclusively Christians and this was, although never officially, a mostly Christian nation, as stated by more than one Founding Fathers, a union of Christian colonies.

            Despite that we were so overwhelming Christian, they and their ancestors having suffered under State Churches in Europe and elsewhere and accompanying religious persecution, they did not state the obvious in our Constitution; and, in fact, in the Bill of Rights, they offered all the people an iron-clad guarantee that the State would not establish an official State sanctioned Christian denomination and they would defend everyone’s freedom of religious worship/conscience..

            If you are not aware of these absolute facts, then as suggested above there must be some biological cause for a degree of stupidity you bear that borders on sheer idiocy.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Neiman 35 minutes ago in reply to robert108

            I am not interested in smacking anyone down, only engaging in civil, rational debates for my own better understanding and perhaps on occasion benefit someone else. I would rather encourage others in the right direction, not smack anyone down.

          • Neiman

            Gay Bob, having the intellect of a retarded slug can only copy/paste his lies, he has nothing else to add, he is more than an empty suit: he has no brains and no soul! He is absolutely incapable of debating anyone, knowing every time he tries he only winds up looking like a fool.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Neiman 19 minutes ago in reply to Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            …a man that brags about his intellectual superiority over others has a such serious emotional problem with his self-image that, he must boast about himself, to convince himself…

          • Neiman

            Gay Bob, having the intellect of a retarded slug can only copy/paste his lies, he has nothing else to add, he is more than an empty suit: he has no brains and no soul! He is absolutely incapable of debating anyone, knowing every time he tries he only winds up looking like a fool.

            Someone tell this fool I too can copy/paste all night.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Neiman  22 minutes ago in reply to hannitized

            Whenever people have no basis for an argument, they engage in personal attacks!

          • Neiman

            Gay Bob, having the intellect of a retarded slug can only copy/paste his lies, he has nothing else to add, he is more than an empty suit: he has no brains and no soul! He is absolutely incapable of debating anyone, knowing every time he tries he only winds up looking like a fool.

            Someone tell this fool I too can copy/paste all night.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Neiman Today 01:56 PM in reply to stoop_Davy_Dave  

            Well if you are going to insult someone because the have
            different opinions han your won, at least be creative about it…

          • Neiman

             Gay
            Bob, having the intellect of a retarded slug can only copy/paste his
            lies, he has nothing else to add, he is more than an empty suit: he has no brains and no soul! He is absolutely incapable of debating anyone, knowing every time he tries he only winds up looking like a fool.

            Someone tell this fool I too can copy/paste all night.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Look at you, Old Pal!

            Stepping up and commenting directly to me.

            Big steps, you crazy coot.

            We’re proud of you.

    • $8194357

      Soros Nazi’s, marxists and jihadists all “divide to conqure”…

      Liberty and Justice for all “Under the Rule of Constitional Law Equality”

      just doesn’t fit any statistist leftist fascists agenda and is their sworn mortal enemy..

  • Davoarid

    “Because there’s so much political furor surrounding this case – up to and including the President injecting himself into the matter”

    You should post Barack Obama’s actual comments. Your readers have no idea what they are, and if they’re just relying on your interpretation, they’ll continue to be clueless.

    • Bat One

      Instead of telling your host what he should do on HIS blog, you could just post Obama’s comments yourself.

      Just make sure you use the Fox News video, not the CNN or NBC versions which are likely edited.

      • Demosthenes

         Your so called “News” organizations all went to shit when journalists and reporters started to think reporting biased news was ethical and moral duty.

        • HG

          That was NBC.  They edited the 911 call to fit their narrative.

        • $8194357

          ( “News” organizations all went to shit when journalists and reporters started to think reporting biased news was ethical and moral duty)

          communist Walter Cronkite was perhaps the largest watched who perfected your above statement..

          Dan Rather tried but couldn’t fill his shoes…

          Katie….Hahahahahahahaaaaaa

    • Thresherman

      And what is preventing you from psoting them?

  • Neiman

    Zimmerman is guilty!

    > Because he is a conservative, no wait a minute he is a Democrat.
    > Because he is a white racist, no wait a minute he is half-Hispanic and he and his wife voluntarily work with minority children, including blacks.
    > Because he marked Jayvon for being black, no wait a minute, he was only answering a question about the color of the suspect.
    > Because Trayvon’s Mom said it was her son screaming on the audio tape, no wait, others said it was Zimmerman and her “feelings”are not evidence.
    > Because Zimmerman was not being attacked, no wait a minute an independent witness said he was.
    > Because Zimmerman was not injured, no wait a minute there were injuries indicating a physical confrontation.
    > Because liberals, welfare pimps and militant black groups wanting race wars and offering a price on Zimmerman’s head demand that he is guilty, even though none of them were there and none of them have seen the evidence. This is absolute proof, as whenever a liberal or black person accuses anyone of racism or any crime, that accusation alone represents absolute proof of guilt, while if it were conservatives accusing any non-conservative, hell they are not even guilty after being convicted.

    What everyone on the3 Left will hate is that establishing guilt based on the standards of 2nd Degree Murder is very, very hard to prove. What will happen though is that racist Holder will still send Zimmerman to jail for years based on phony Civil Rights violations and someone there will execute him and dammit, justice will be done.

    UPDATE:
    An affidavit released by the prosecutor who has charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder says
    he did not use a slur. Oops, no hate crime here? What will Holder do,he has to send this guy to prison.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    You have to admit it is comical to watch the left wiggle about rule of law when this case has been unsolved for well over a month now. Has anyone been arrested in the Fast and Furious cover up debacle yet?

  • Guest

    Zimmerman sounds like your typical right wing gun nut.  He initiates a confrontation with a teenager as a result of his own paranoia.  Proceeds to lose a fair fight when the teenager defends himself and then, instead of taking his licks like a man, he pulls out his gun and shoots the poor kid. 

    • Hanni

       Wrong, Zimmerman is one of mine. He’s a registered racist democrat who hates blacks.

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