European Survey: Which European Men Need The Largest, Er, Raincoat?

I’m not making this up.
Apparently someone with a lot of time on their hands or a rather good sense of humor asked men across Europe to, er, measure the size of condoms they need.
The results?
The French win. The Greeks lose:

BERLIN — The French say they need the largest condoms in Europe while Greeks get by on smaller ones, according to a Europe-wide study by a German consultancy that provides advice on condoms.
The study by the Singen-based Institute of Condom Consultancy was done by asking 10,500 men in 25 countries to measure their penis and enter the number into a database.
The results show Frenchmen on average claim to need 15.48 centimeters (6.09 inches) long condoms, about 3 centimeters longer than Greeks, whose condom size requirement was the most modest.
Jan Vinzenz Krause, the Institute’s director, told Reuters on Friday the data was collected over a period of eight months.

If I were the Greeks I’d be sort of miffed about the way this turned out, but that aside – I’m sort of wondering just what degree of honesty was involved in the reporting of the results, and apparently so is the author of the survey:

He did not want to comment on how honest he thought the Frenchmen had been in reporting the data.

I mean, no guy would ever, uh, stretch the truth on this issue.
Would they?

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  • http://Array Hannitized

    Move_Zig is clearly a homophobe with deep seeded desires for other men. Who else would make such an attempt to cover up his desire to wrestle with other men by posting anti-gay messages in his signature?

  • ellinas

    Mine doesn’t look like a grub in a turtleneck!

    RebTex on December 21, 2008 at 06:14 pm

    LMAO. Good come back. Cant stop laughing.

    Seriously, if it had much more sensation, the friction of my jeans while I walk would keep it harder than Chinese arithmetic!
    Yup!

    RebTex on December 21, 2008 at 06:14 pm

    Nah! Not true. The foreskin prevents that.

  • ellinas

    Those who follow the Judeo-Christian form of circumcision don’t have to contend with Smegma……..

    Move_Zig on December 23, 2008 at 04:14 am

    Move_Zig.If they washed their dicks diligently, they would not have to contend with smegma.

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  • ellinas

    Those who follow the Judeo-Christian form of circumcision don’t have to contend with Smegma,……..

    Move_Zig on December 23, 2008 at 04:14 am

    Zig. Muslims also circumcise. Are you saying that their circumcision, not being the Judeo-Christian form of circumcision, does somehow not protect them from the vagaries in the article you posted?

  • ellinas

    likwidshoe. Spot on. You hit the nail on the head. I am not circumcized, never had an infection and neither did my wife. As far as cleaniness goes, a little water and soap go a long way.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    One more thing before I close out, so many of you get onto Dino’s case because you believe homosexuality to be “unnatural”.

    And yet, here you all are defending a very unnatural practice.

    Ponder the hypocrisy, guys. It doesn’t look good.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Move_Zig – I understand you have a preference, but in the face of this report I see no scientific support for your arguments, just your fervent druthers.

    *shrugs*

    Thanks for the insult.

    If you believe that you can cut off a nice chunk of skin and not also cut off nerves, I can’t help you. There is evidence out there that shows how the skin is completely covered in nerves, but I’m not going to lead you to them.

    If you want to doubt the history of how circumcision came to be so popular in the States, I won’t help you. Just Googling Kellogg of the breakfast cereal fame will get you started. Did you know that Kellogg Corn Flakes itself was for the purpose of discouraging sexual activity?

    A remedy for masturbation which is almost always successful in small boys is circumcision. The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment.

    Weird guy.

    If you want to believe that circumcision is “cleaner”, that’s your prerogative. The rest of us will shower daily and wonder why some of you are so dirty that it’s better to hack up the penis, rather than simply clean it.

    If you want to believe that you can cut off the skin of the penis and the victim won’t feel pain, I don’t know what to tell you. If you need “scientific proof” that cutting off skin causes pain, then it is pointless to talk.

    If you’re that worried about smegma, then goodness! I don’t know what to say about that.

    As for the scientific fact that infections take hold more easily in dark, warm, moist places, no fucking shit Sherlock. As for the concern that circumcision protects against HIV risk because the practice ends up killing the natural penis, *SHRUGS*. I don’t opt for mutilation to protect sluts. It’s a weak-assed selling point you’ve got there. I prefer those weird old conservative ideas of personal responsibility and just deserts for the wicked. Ya fuck around, you’ll end up catching something. With one in five teenagers in this country already infected with sexually transmitted herpes, you’ve got to know going in that sleeping around is like playing Russian roulette with your genitals. You could mutilate those genitals of yours to protect yourself, but that’s a weak selling point.

    Suit yourself, I just say that it should be a CHOICE.

    Radical idea, I know. I prefer not to force some baby to forever live the rest of his life with mutilated genitals and contrary to a claim up above, with the full approval and insistence of the hospital (they make a lot of money off of foreskin). The practice is repugnant. It is a violation of the most personal kind.

  • RebTex

    You are not as big as you would have been.

    I’m pretty happy with the amount I have!
    AND!
    Mine doesn’t look like a grub in a turtleneck!
    .
    .
    Seriously, if it had much more sensation, the friction of my jeans while I walk would keep it harder than Chinese arithmetic!
    Yup!
    I”ll stay with what I’ve got.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    You would think that disgusting homosexuals would know more about dicks, but I guess that’s just a phallusy. Then again, they persevere in engaging in deviant sexual practices in the face of years of medical findings that have proven that what they do leads to the transmission of AIDs/HIV. That pretty much puts the kay-bosh on any argument they know anything about health.

    Circumcision Reduces HIV Risk in Heterosexual Men

    Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:11 AM

    A new U.S. study has found that being circumcised significantly reduced the risk of HIV infection in heterosexual African American men known to have been exposed to the virus. The findings complement those of recently reported clinical trials in Africa, where interventional use of adult male circumcision similarly reduced the risk of HIV infection in heterosexual men. The findings of the new study, along with similar results from other studies, suggest that circumcision may protect other heterosexual males in the U.S. The promising new findings are reported in the January 1 issue of The Journal of Infectious Diseases, now available online.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Move_Zig – Circumcision Reduces HIV Risk in Heterosexual Men

    I imagine that it is because circumcision kills the head of the dick. It’s no longer soft, purplish, protected and wet. It’s exposed, hardened (keratinized), deadened and dry.

    If you kill it, you reduce the risk? Uh, no thanks.

    I opt for personal responsibility. If you’re screwing irresponsibly, you will end up catching all manner of nasty diseases.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Dino – Americans are smaller because of the barbaric practice of sniping off the tip to keep little boys from masturbating. But you only lose 50% of the most errogenous skin on your body.

    Another deplorable habit of the twisted American culture and the sexually repressed and conservative Victorian era.

    Wow! This is actually right on. The only thing he didn’t mention was the circumcision robs the male of up to 90% of the nerves in the penis. The practice really took off in the early 1900′s as a way to stop boys from masturbating. Look up the sordid history and the role that Kellogg (of the breakfast cereal fame) had in the matter. The answer of “it’s cleaner” came much later.

    It’s barbaric any which way you look at it. And for those of you who believe that it is “cleaner” – we live in America where we take showers just about every day. Where do you live? The desert? Worried about sand or something?

    di butler – If you don’t want to be circumcised, don’t.

    Come on, that’s just dishonest.

    What’s next? If you don’t like clitoridectomies, then don’t get one? Did you have a voice at three days old? Let’s be honest about it.

    As for what “looks better”, why in the hell is a mother doing cosmetic surgery on her son’s dick? If you don’t see the problem there…

    Some of you conservatives who proclaim to be for “freedom” have a big blind spot on this one.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Lik,

    I understand you have a preference, but in the face of this report I see no scientific support for your arguments, just your fervent druthers.

    Those who follow the Judeo-Christian form of circumcision don’t have to contend with Smegma, or otherwise providing a dark, warm, moist place for infections to take hold (refer to Circumcision Reduces HIV Risk in Heterosexual Men)

    How about posting some links supporting your assertions?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    No, no, no. That part’s Black.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    I guess a Godless one would have forgotten:

    This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and thy descendants after thee, every male among you shall be circumcised. And ye shall be circumcised on the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations .

    – Genesis 17:10-12

    Besides, it is cleaner. No fumunda cheese, less chance of infection.

    We had to share quarters, to include showers with foreign troops. No lack of self-conscious and incredulous sidelong glances at the personal equipment.

    Evidently Americans did and Norwegians didn’t.

    Kinda reminded me of doggie dicks.

    Yuck.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Dude, settle down now.

    What I was looking for was authority to the statement you made which was:

    The only thing he didn’t mention was the circumcision robs the male of up to 90% of the nerves in the penis.

    Oh?

    I didn’t realize that the foreskin, if it served to protect the soft corona, glans and meatus, would be so chock-full of nerve endings. Having 90 percent of the nerves in the penis would seem to defeat its utility as a relatively- insensitive protective sheath.

    I acknowledge that your opinion differs from mine. I was just wondering if you had any authority to back up your percentage statement.

    Don’t be such a schmuck.

    Heh heh.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Flea-bitten rodent,

    Don’t ask me to answer a stupid question.

    Try that again, with some intelligence this time.

  • Neiman

    Sparkie: Please, your ignorance of Scripture is appalling! Stick to what you know!

  • di butler

    Dino,

    Circumcision is done now mainly for hygenic reasons. It is to prevent any type of infection in babies and small boys. It is a choice, issue, no one pushes you into when you have a baby, they come in, say do you want the little bugger snipped, or not? They couldn’t give a rat’s ass less, one way or another. However, since it has become such a popular event in the US, it definately makes young boys feel more comfortable to look like all the other boys. Some people prefer their sons to match the dad, so it is just a personal decision. Don’t know about men liking other men, but most women prefer a snipped version.

  • http://boyddrivefollies.blogspot.com/ Good Ol Boy

    Tonto Rodriguez! LMFAO!

    How many ethnic groups can you offend in one sentence- that was great!

  • Dino

    Only in America would people cut healthy tissue off of infants in the name of hygiene while they’re strapped to boards screaming and going into shock.

    Sorry you find uncut dicks ugly Zig. Perhaps your next boyfriend will be cut.

    dl, drop the victim routine. You’re a snake and can fend for yourself.

    More backwards thinking and ignorance from the conservatives.

    http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/

    http://www.cirp.org/library/general/warren2/

    http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/

  • Pilgrim

    The potential for comedy gold…

    This study was headed up by the guy who was looking to perfect spray-on condoms….

    ….is limitless with this!

  • Dino

    Hygiene my ass. It’s a barbaric procedure perpetuated by an ignorant repressed culture of white trash.

    The baby has no say and goes into shock from the pain. The glans has not separated from the foreskin so the pain is like taking a razor blade and running it under your fingernail.

    If we cut off all babies ears they might not get ear infections. If we cut off all women’s breasts then they wouldn’t get breast cancer. See where I’m going with this? It’s MUTILATION for no medical reason.

  • http://www.wunderkraut.com/ WunderKraut

    It’s not like France is trying to compensate for anything.

    I mean, given their stellar military history, non-effeminate men and impeccable hygiene…I can’t think of one thing to make up for.

    We all know the Germans were forced to lie about their “size” as part of their Unconditional Surrender in WW2…but we all know who wins between France and Germany.

  • Neiman

    The medical tome, ‘A History of the Male Penis’ definitively states that the longest penis (on average) is that of the Native American, and that the largest in circumference (girth) is that of the Mexican American. I just thought you might like to know.

    Sincerely,
    Tonto Rodriguez

    Now that was funny!

  • ellinas

    I am Greek. I shall measure and report back to you.
    In the mean time people can admire my nuts.

  • Dino

    Americans are smaller because of the barbaric practice of sniping off the tip to keep little boys from masturbating. But you only lose 50% of the most errogenous skin on your body.

    Another deplorable habit of the twisted American culture and the sexually repressed and conservative Victorian era.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thekingscourt4u Gman

    If someone says they have more than a foot check to see if they are measuring from the bunghole forward…:-)

    Keith Funnenstien, aka Dr. Fun. A very rude, crude, jokester and musician who use to play at the Red Carpet in St. Cloud, MN.

  • LoadTheMule

    To Whom It May Concern,

    The medical tome, ‘A History of the Male Penis’ definitively states that the longest penis (on average) is that of the Native American, and that the largest in circumference (girth) is that of the Mexican American. I just thought you might like to know.

    Sincerely,
    Tonto Rodriguez

  • LoadTheMule

    Dino,

    Get a fucking grip, pardner. And a life… *jeez*

  • di butler

    LTM,

    Well, he often is able to discern from my posts all kind of swell stuff about me. He has accused me of being a liar, a hooker, a gold digger, a oxycotin fan club member, knows where all my friends are from, my motives for charitible donations, how my family conducts their business, what I am trying to infer in my posts, whether I have said them or not, so I think he obviously is a mindreader! And don’t try to make resonable convo with him, he will smack the hand with the olive branch.

  • ellinas

    *jeez*

    LoadTheMule on November 29, 2008 at 05:24 pm

    Sounds like what the condom is supposed to keep from spilling/squirting all over the place.

  • di butler

    Circurmcision Incidence Graph

    Census Region

    N. East N. Central South West

    White 83% 89% 74% 74%

    Black 68% 52% 31% 54%

    Comb. 81% 86% 63% 74%

    While it does seem whites do circumcision more frequently than blacks, it is more predominant in the North East and North Central parts of the country vs. the South. So, I guess those “white trash” in NY, Connecticut, Massachusettes, D.C., surpass the “white trash” in GA, AL, and AK.

    BTW, Dino,

    If you don’t want to be circumcised, don’t. If you really think women in America are doing this to keep their sons from masturbated too much then you definately aren’t very knowledgeable about women.

  • Mickey

    Dino is just covering up (pun intended) that he is a wanker.

  • http://forums.kikizo.com/ Eddie_the_Hated

    ellinas… your wank looks weird.

    Americans are smaller because of the barbaric practice of sniping off the tip to keep little boys from masturbating. But you only lose 50% of the most errogenous skin on your body.

    I’m glad my parents snipped me. Aside from the arguable social ramifications, your endurance increases if you’re cut, substantially. I’m thinking of my woman too.

    Americans are smaller because of the barbaric practice of sniping off the tip to keep little boys from masturbating.

    …Because being cut sure stopped me, and every other teenage male from saluting Herman the one-eyed German…

    Another deplorable habit of the twisted American culture and the sexually repressed and conservative Victorian era.

    Oh, get over it. Name one person who remembers the “deplorable” act of being circumcised? Name one person who’s permanently emotionally scarred from circumcision?

    Hell, I didn’t even know what an uncircumcised penis looked like until high-school anatomy courses.

  • Mickey

    Americans are smaller because of the barbaric practice of sniping off the tip to keep little boys from masturbating.

    Dino,

    It’s ok, everyone has masturbated. You need to be concerned with the frequency problem you have and that hair growing on your palms.

    Keep practicing, some day you’ll find a nice girl who doesn’t see you as a total loser.

    Meanwhile, I assume you are not even an American so your opinion on our politics is insignificant. Go piss up a rope.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Dude, settle down now.

    Careful, there. Intent is not really readable. You’re missing most of the cues of communication and thus, calling for me to settle down is a bit out of line.

    I didn’t realize that the foreskin, if it served to protect the soft corona, glans and meatus, would be so chock-full of nerve endings.

    It’s the partially cut off frenulum that holds the most nerves lost followed closely by the hacked off ridged band and keratinized glans (head), where the nerves die.

    I was just wondering if you had any authority to back up your percentage statement.

    Admittedly, no. Point made.

    It doesn’t change a single one of my points, though.

  • LoadTheMule

    di,

    I never try to have reasonable conversations with children–especially spoiled ones. I just have them go peddle their warcries elsewhere.

    Trying to get attention-seeking brats to be reasonable and polite is like trying to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.

  • LoadTheMule

    If you really think women in America are doing this to keep their sons from masturbated too much then you definately aren’t very knowledgeable about women.

    Can you name me something about which Dino IS very knowledgeable? Other than fomenting dissent for its own sake, spreading bullshit, and being smugly self-satisfied in his own hateful ignorance of course.

  • RebTex

    Dino boi,
    As much as you want to flourish your sexual preference, one would think you’d know a little more about a male body.
    Firstly, circumcisions aren’t while:

    while they’re strapped to boards screaming and going into shock

    And they don’t do them in the back seat of a Lincoln, either.
    /Vague reference to a famous John Belushi skit.
    For more than 20 years, they’ve been done with a bell clamp.
    It fits in place & the cover snaps into position.
    It’s rare that you’ll even see the infant flinch.
    That said, being circumcised has absolutely no bearing on the length of the male penis.
    In fact, the tissue that’s removed has no muscle in it at all.
    Also,once the tissue is removed, it allows more sensations in the glans area because it’s no longer sheathed.

    PLEASE strive to be more than an ignorant recepticle.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    I posted news of a released study. You countered with opinion.

    What?

    I accept the premise of the study.

    I deny the relevance of it. You disagree. Our opinions are in opposition. You find that destroying the natural penis is a good protection against the debilitating disease of HIV/AIDs. I disagree with that action!

    What do you want, a study or something for that opinion of mine?

  • http://forums.kikizo.com/ Eddie_the_Hated

    This study was headed up by the guy who was looking to perfect spray-on condoms….

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Lik,

    You are an intelligent guy. I expect better from you. I posted news of a released study. You countered with opinion.

    You don’t want to bother to back that up with some research?

    I do that for friend and foe alike.

    All else is unmitigated opinion.

  • ellinas

    Move_Zig. I am not circumcised and have not suffered any of the ailments you mention.
    Circumcision is a religious practice of the Semitic people.
    Most is not all Europeans, Christian Russians, and Asian non Muslims do not circumcise. The afflictions you mention have been medically debunked. As far as cleanliness goes,it is not hard to clean a dick whether limp or hard.

  • ellinas

    Don’t ask me to answer a stupid question.

    Move_Zig on December 23, 2008 at 08:01 pm

    Even though you made a stupid statement, rest assured there is nothing stupid in my question.
    Move_Zig. explain this to me: “Those who follow the Judeo-Christian form of circumcision don’t have to contend with Smegma,……..”Are you going on the record with this? What about the ones that circumsize for reasons not related to religion?
    Do those people contend with smegma?

  • Dino

    Mickey is late to the game. No women in my love life. LOL

    At least now you’ll have something to berate me with since your pseudo-intellectual arguments are utter crap.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    RebTex – That said, being circumcised has absolutely no bearing on the length of the male penis.

    Uh, actually, it does. It’s just a “little snip” on a baby, but that skin would have grown up to over half of the skin of the penis. Circumcision has the ugly habit of rerouting the veins, bringing them to the surface. This stunts the growth. You are not as big as you would have been. And besides, length only counts for so much.

    As for the infant going into shock, that’s no bullshit just because the claim is coming out of Dino’s mouth. He’s right on that one.

    As for increased sexual pleasure? Get real. A circumcised penis has a lot less nerves on it, up to 90% less. The natural sheath that nature made for us prevents chaffing in the woman. In short, you’re supposed to be fucking within the skin. Circumcision takes that natural sheath away. The circumcised male, thinking he’s the king of the hill, thrusts harder because his feeling has been dimmed, all the while patting himself on the back for lasting longer! It’s all a self deceiving joke.

    I don’t know if some of you are trying to make yourselves feel better for having mutilated dicks or what, but in the end – it should be a gawddamn choice.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    hygiene?

    You eat fecal matter. Don’t speak to us about hygiene, you disgusting perv.

    The Benefits of Circumcision

    Medical Benefits

    Reasons many parents choose circumcision

    Research studies indicate that there are good medical reasons why your son should be circumcised. These include:

    * Circumcision substantially reduces an infant´s chances of getting a urinary tract infection (UTI) during the first year of his life. Although the rate of urinary tract infections for infants is not very high (around xxx %), UTI´s are becoming increasingly difficult to treat (see here for a discussion).

    * Cancer of the penis – that effects xxx men in a thousand – is essentially eliminated in circumcised males.

    * Research shows that males who are circumcised have a lower risk of getting sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). In addition, partners of circumcised males are less likely to contract vaginal infections (e.g. yeast infections).

    * Circumcision eliminates foreskin infections that occur throughout childhood.

    * Circumcision prevents phimosis, a narrow opening that makes it impossible to retract the foreskin at a later age.

    * Genital hygiene is easier after circumcision.

    * Circumcision virtually eliminates the accumulation of smegma.

    References

    1. E.J. Schoen et al., Report of the Task Force on Circumcision Pediatrics 1989; 84: 388-391

    2. Canadian Medical Association Journal; March 1996: 154 (6)

    3. Agarwal SS, Sehgal A, Sardana S, Kumar A, L uthra UK. Role of male behaviour in cervical carcinogenesis among women with one lifetime sexual partner. Cancer 1993; 72: 1666-9
    hs, London 1986.

  • Mickey

    Americans are smaller because of the barbaric practice of sniping off the tip to keep little boys from masturbating.

    Freudian slip?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    circumsized people are just egyptian slaves, correct? that’s the original fxn, its just been romanticized and moralized by the religious types.

    your endurance increases if you’re cut, substantially. I’m thinking of my woman too.

    false. endurance does not increase, pleasure decreases. yours and your woman’s. bummer bro. and you are an egyptian slave to boot.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    I side with Lik, Dino, and Ellinas. It ain’t hard to wash off. Also, I would like to point out to Neiman that circumcision did fxn as an indicator of who was an Egyptian slave, at one point in history — whether or not the bible spells it out.

    The ‘cleanliness’ line is post-hoc bullshit. In countries with running water, its no problem.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    its a good thing the slavs didnt get let in on this survey. the europeans would have been embarassed. also, greece is no surprise. i’m sure italy is down there too. moma’s boys with little dicks. heh.

  • Anonymous

    In the end, as long as the rain coat keeps you dry and warm, it really doesn’t matter what color it is, but if you want to make a statement or give a nod to the old days, definitely consider a raincoats for men.

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