Environmental Nuttery: Seattle Won’t Salt Roads Because The Salt Is Bad For Puget Sound

Apparently the fact that Puget Sound contains salt water is lost on them.

To hear the city’s spin, Seattle’s road crews are making “great progress” in clearing the ice-caked streets.
But it turns out “plowed streets” in Seattle actually means “snow-packed,” as in there’s snow and ice left on major arterials by design.
“We’re trying to create a hard-packed surface,” said Alex Wiggins, chief of staff for the Seattle Department of Transportation. “It doesn’t look like anything you’d find in Chicago or New York.”
The city’s approach means crews clear the roads enough for all-wheel and four-wheel-drive vehicles, or those with front-wheel drive cars as long as they are using chains, Wiggins said.
The icy streets are the result of Seattle’s refusal to use salt, an effective ice-buster used by the state Department of Transportation and cities accustomed to dealing with heavy winter snows.
“If we were using salt, you’d see patches of bare road because salt is very effective,” Wiggins said. “We decided not to utilize salt because it’s not a healthy addition to Puget Sound.”

If the city is only going to clear its streets enough for front-wheel drive and four-wheel drive vehicles they might want to think about getting their cops come vehicles like that:

Seattle also equips its plows with rubber-edged blades. That minimizes the damage to roads and manhole covers, but it doesn’t scrape off the ice, Wiggins said.
That leaves many drivers, including Seattle police, pretty much on their own until nature does to the snow what the sand can’t: melt it.
The city’s patrol cars are rear-wheel drive. And even with tire chains, officers are avoiding hills and responding on foot, according to a West Precinct officer.

I wonder if the environmental impact of road salt going into, ahem salt water is off-set by all the people who drive SUV’s to compensate for the crappy winter driving. I mean, I’m no global warming alarmist, but I wonder how the enviro-nuts reconcile that reality?
And for all the money being saved on plowing roads and deploying salt, what about money spent on cops responding to traffic accidents? Often on foot because their own vehicles can’t traverse the streets?
This is the sort of blue-state foolishness that has people moving to red states.

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  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Oregon doesn't either. In fact, most of the Pacific NW doesn't use salt. We manage without it. We rarely require it as it rarely goes below freezing here.

    I come from a place that used tons of salt and we still had terrible times when it snowed.

    Odd the things that get you people going.

  • Neiman

    But, isn't Puget Sound salt water already, as it is part of the Pacific Ocean?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    No. That's like saying there's small amounts of poison in the air so why not have lots more? There's lots more ecological damage from salt usage than just Puget Sound.

    You people simply don't get it. You'd rather ridicule things you don't understand.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I wonder if these tards figured out how much salt is already in Puget sound compared to the amount that would runoff.

    Probably not.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    I wonder if these tards figured out how much salt is already in Puget sound compared to the amount that would runoff.

    Probably not.

    This is what happens when you let the left go uncheck so no I doubt the morons realize that there is already salt in the Puget sound.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    How many humans will have to die in icy accidents?<img src='http://i38.tinypic.com/10366bm.jpg'&gt;

  • Lance

    Oregon doesn't either. In fact, most of the Pacific NW doesn't use salt. We manage without it. We rarely require it as it rarely goes below freezing here.

    That's because it barely ever snows to the left of the Cascades. One month of sunshine and 11 months of rainy gloominess. Of course, Oregon is also one of the states (New Jersey being the other) that doesn't let you pump your own gas, since they manufacture jobs for useless people that spill gas all over your car.

    I'm not at all surprised that Dino is from there. I bet he's a gas pumper and doesn't have to pay any taxes. High five on the minimum wage hike, eh Dino?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Portland gets less rain than St. Louis or Dallas. We have at least 2 months of full sun, no rain, no humidity, mildly hot summers. The air is clear, the people are liberal and we don't like conservatism.

    We also don't like pumping our own gas. At first it bothered me that someone else had to pump it. But I love it now.

    Not surprising that a walking sphincter thinks he's someone who should be looking down on others for what they do for a living. I mean, you're a republican, you have no room to be ridiculing pump jockeys.

  • NoJelly

    As one of my favorite people would say; "Let them, and decrease the surplus population".

    There's something so Darwin about all this. Considering that Seattle doesn't freeze up all that often, I'm sure that it's no great concern…Right up until that one night when the temps dip to 20 and the ice is a quarter-inch thick and the few hundred survivors of the family members who died due to bureacratic negligence sue the city off the map…

  • Lioncourt

    When Seattlites talk about Puget Sound it is not just the water. It is the ecosystem around the water as well. Salt is bad for the plants and animals around the Sound which also get the runoff.

    How many humans will have to die in icy accidents?

    So far, none.

    It snows 1-3 times a year in Seattle. The people in Seattle are fine with this policy, so why do you care?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Because this kind of stupidity only needs a start to get imposed on the rest of us.

    Better to point out how stupid it is now.

  • Mickey

    You people simply don't get it. You'd rather ridicule things you don't understand.

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA… COMING FROM YOU THAT IS THE FUNNY !!!!!

    BAFOON

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Not only do I understand things like snow and ice I also know that the ocean is full of salt.

  • Lance

    Portland gets less rain than St. Louis or Dallas. We have at least 2 months of full sun, no rain, no humidity, mildly hot summers. The air is clear, the people are liberal and we don't like conservatism.

    Yes, but you're forgetting the fact that St. Louis and Dallas get that amount of rain over the course of two seasons. The Pacific Northwest gets that over 11 months. It's always cold and wet and miserable there. You also forgot to mention that Seattle is the suicide capital of the United States. Must be all that liberalism.

    Not surprising that a walking sphincter thinks he's someone who should be looking down on others for what they do for a living. I mean, you're a republican, you have no room to be ridiculing pump jockeys.

    Once again, knuckle dragger, I am not a republican. I keep telling you this, but I guess my words aren't penetrating your special helmet. And yes, I think people that contribute nothing to society such as yourself are worthless. Worse yet, you actually detract from society. But thankfully, you're up in the northwest, so I'll never have to encounter you or your half wit kind, because I never want to go to those two shithole states again.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Yes, but you're forgetting the fact that St. Louis and Dallas get that amount of rain over the course of two seasons. The Pacific Northwest gets that over 11 months. It's always cold and wet and miserable there. You also forgot to mention that Seattle is the suicide capital of the United States. Must be all that liberalism.

    If it comes over 11 months (which is doesn't) that would make even less evidence of rain. Oh, and that old myth about Seattle suicide? It's bullshit.
    Vegas is actually the suicide capital where people are TWICE as likely to commit suicide. Must be all that greedy republican gambling!

    Yeah, I'd deny being a republican too. And we appreciate you not ever coming back to Oregon or Washington. We had a hard enough time getting your kind to leave in the first place! Ta Ta!

  • ollie-B

    There is a chemical compound used in Europe which gives extra traction on icy and snowy roads. From what I have heard, they only have to resurface their roads every 5 years. If we used it here, it would be a great benefit to drivers. But it would also put a lot of people out of business and we would have no road construction season every summer. Then driving in North Dakota just would not be the same.

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