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Thursday, August 02, 2007

Ed Schultz Blames Bush For Minnesota Bridge Collapse

No, I’m not kidding.  Here’s a paraphrase of what he said:

...the only reason Bush is talking about fatalities is because he didn’t give MN enough money to maintain the bridge.

Right, Ed.  Because it’s the President, and not Congress, who appropriates highway funds for roads and bridges.

What’s more, have we really departed so far from our federalist roots that we’re now blaming the President of the United States for not properly maintaining a bridge in Minneapolis (if that is indeed why the bridge went down)?  What about local city officials?  County road inspectors?  State highway department people?  The governor?

But hey, I guess this is what you get from a paid mouthpiece for the Democrat party.

Of course, Schultz isn’t the only liberal driven to stupidity by the bridge collapse in Minnesota.  Others are saying that the bridge collapsed because, get this, we aren’t paying enough in taxes.  Again, I’m not sure why the bridge in Minnesota collapsed (hasn’t anyone been inspecting it?), but if more funding was needed to maintain it Congress could have cut back on the number of million dollar bus stops and bridges to nowhere they’ve been building with our highway money.

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The government wastes so much money and does the jobs that they should be doing poorly.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 2, 2007 at 07:42 am

The bridge was being renovated at the time of the collapse, but why would red Ed notice that?

Kevin on August 2, 2007 at 08:52 am
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I didn’t realize Bush had such ‘godlike’ powers.  He can cause hurricanes and bridge failures, hide Osama and demolish the Twin Towers for his own lust for power! What will he do next?  Prevent the 08 election to stay in power like Mass. Rep. John Olver believes?

http://radiantsong.blogspot.com/2007/07/another-massachusetts-moonbat.html

Wow, some of those Democrats and Liberals believe anything!

Radiant Times on August 2, 2007 at 09:10 am
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The bridge had been inspected twice, once in 2005 and last year in 2006. The bridge was not being “renovated”. It was being resurfaced which connotes something different. The point is we didn’t need any extra money from the feds for the highway. It was undergoing and has undergone the routine maintenance it needed. The most important question is who inspected it and how qualified were they to do so. Ed Schulz is an idiot and a cowardly one at that since he won’t engage in debate with conservative talk show hosts. By the way, the bridge’s design was not typical… no pillars, no suspension cables. It was a just a concrete and girder span across this relatively narrow part of the Mississppi.

princetrumpet on August 2, 2007 at 09:11 am
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The bridge was being renovated at the time of the collapse, but why would red Ed notice that?

It wasn’t structural work, but why should you notice that?

Hawk on August 2, 2007 at 09:12 am
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Resurfaced = repaving, not fixing the structural damage. The bridge is old and outdated to the current level of traffic.

A REPUBLICAN vetoed a fully pushed through budget that would have gone towards infrastucture, wether this would have gone to repairing the bridge though is unlikely as it was oked in 2005 and 2007, because it would have raised gas tax by .05 it was axed all together.

While I do conceed that Ed can at times be the political polar of Rush in his overstating, he aint no O’Reilly. He DOES have conservatives and reps but the last thing many politicians want is to have their errors pointed out to them.

But if you get through post so far without rushing to make a snarky reply please listen to Bush’s ‘press conference’ Thursday morning and try not to be infuriated. 1 min of half assed compassionism before lauching into a prescripted speech for a Minn. visit that this tragedy derailed -This could have been prevented by the democrates authorizing my budgets-

Bush (the man) is not responsible but Bush (the symbol of the poltical system) sure as hell is and if you dont believe me I would remind you of Katrina, which is STILL a disaster area.

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Bush (the man) is not responsible but Bush (the symbol of the poltical system) sure as hell is and if you dont believe me I would remind you of Katrina, which is STILL a disaster area.

I guess I’m still wondering why these local issues are the problem of the President?  Why do we even bother to elect county officials?  And Mayors?  And Governors?

There are a few hundred public officials who were a hell of a lot closer to this than Bush was.  Maybe if politicians would quit using highway fund money to line their own pockets this sort of thing wouldn’t happen.

Also, all the liberals whining about no money going to this bridge will, I’m sure, be joining Republicans in curtailing wasteful spending elsewhere in our government’s budget right?  So that we can focus those funds on stuff like this?

Yeah, didn’t think so.


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Rob on August 2, 2007 at 09:45 am

wether this would have gone to repairing the bridge though is unlikely as it was oked in 2005 and 2007,

What a pathetic screed.  More money would have kept this from happening but it would have built some more million dollar pee stops so blame the conservatives.

because it would have raised gas tax by .05 it was axed all together.

The government has plenty of money if they spend it properly.  Giving them more money is not going to solve the problem of the government spending our money inappropriately. 

It appears that the cause of this failure is poor design.  If any blame is due it should go to the locals not setting the right priorities to fix it.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 2, 2007 at 09:50 am
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Sillent Scream, did you bother reading ONE WORD of what I wrote? You’re not from MN, I am. I drive across that bridge all the time. The bodies will be cold very soon, why don’t you show a little respect and can the theorizing until next week?

princetrumpet on August 2, 2007 at 09:52 am
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IN FRA STRUC TURE

Silent Scream on August 2, 2007 at 09:53 am
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I guess I’m still wondering why these local issues are the problem of the President?

Hmmm, it is a bridge of an INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.  I think that falls under the Federal umbrella.

The government wastes so much money and does the jobs that they should be doing poorly.

Exactly!  Infrastructure is one of the few areas government actually belongs, but so much is wasted elsewhere that people have to die.

FreeRepublicans.com on August 2, 2007 at 10:00 am

Hmmm, it is a bridge of an INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.  I think that falls under the Federal umbrella.

Isn’t it maintained by the State?  I guess to replace it it’d be more likely done with mostly federal dollars.  I would imagine the locals set up some kind of priority list.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 2, 2007 at 10:04 am

I predicted the free lunch bunch, whose worst fear is losing their fat government checks and benefits, would blame President Bush for this.
They never let me down.

Kevin on August 2, 2007 at 10:06 am
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Isn’t it maintained by the State?  I guess to replace it it’d be more likely done with mostly federal dollars.  I would imagine the locals set up some kind of priority list.

From what I know this is funded via the Federal Gas Tax.  I would assume that Congress dictates what it can be used for.  Whether their own Department of Transportation of each state’s makes that decision don’t know.

But the golden rule says, those with the money make the rules.

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Doesn’t the federal government disperse money to the various states to maintain the roads?  I’m pretty sure the feds aren’t directly involved with road work in the various states.

This was a local issue, people.  The inspectors were undoubtedly local, as were the officials who could have had it fixed.  If we’re going to try and blame everything on Congress and/or the President then Congress and/or the President are going to start taking more local control.

Do we really want that?

Also, remember that this could have just been a freak accident.  Let’s not take the trial lawyer angle and assume that someone is always at fault.  Perhaps this was unavoidable, we don’t know yet.

But the golden rule says, those with the money make the rules.

True to an extent, but you’re being a smartass.  If a school building collapses do we blame the locals who built the school or the feds who provided the funding?

Cripes, enough with the hysterics already.


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Rob on August 2, 2007 at 10:13 am

Why should the feds be involved anymore.

Building the Interstate Highway system was an important thing.

But they aren’t building more interstate roads.  Federal money goes to local projects within the states (to a great extent).

Eliminate the federal gas tax and make the local governments responsible for their own roads. 

Local control is much better.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 2, 2007 at 10:16 am
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What’s more, have we really departed so far from our federalist roots that we’re now blaming the President of the United States for not properly maintaining a bridge in Minneapolis (if that is indeed why the bridge went down)?  What about local city officials?  County road inspectors?  State highway department people?  The governor?

Laura Ingraham was talking about this this morning. She mentioned some letter in the NY Times or something about a leftist blaming Bush. Like Kerry would have been out inspecting every bridge in the country. Gore wouldn’t have because he may have looked down and saw a speck of dirt or a dead fish in the water and would have run home crying.

I was thinking along the lines of you this morning, Rob. To answer your question, we have no concept of federalism. Everyone looks at the US as just a big country with a lot of cities instead of a country made up of independendent and autonomous states.

Every person who looks to Washington to fix this problem and any others has no clue about this country’s roots. It’s the federal government’s job to do everything. Look at all the minimum wage nonsense. Why didn’t these people look to their state and local governments to set a minimum wage? They want a big federal babysitter.

We don’t need Congress to do more, we need them to do less.

Steve on August 2, 2007 at 10:17 am
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Minnesota just spent over $1.5 billion dollars on its brand new trolley, and yet it’s not getting enough federal monies to support its roads?  What a fool of a man.

Mel W. on August 2, 2007 at 10:57 am
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Hmmm, it is a bridge of an INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.  I think that falls under the Federal umbrella.

And you “think” wrong.

Since you know nothing about this topic, why are you commenting? Seriously, why?

All, every single one of them, Interstate highways belong to the states. Not some, all.

Read that until you grasp.

The Ace on August 2, 2007 at 11:18 am
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Infrastructure is one of the few areas government actually belongs, but so much is wasted elsewhere that people have to die.

Um, ok. Would you like me to actually cite you the FY 2006 appropriated transporation & infrastructure funding?
Do you really want to see those numbers (hundreds of billions)?

The Ace on August 2, 2007 at 11:21 am
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US Representative Jim Oberstar (D) Minnesota was just on the local news blaming Bush also.  He said that funding was cut by Bush.

Dan on August 2, 2007 at 11:21 am
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I would remind you of Katrina, which is STILL a disaster area.

Why don’t you go look up how many years it took FL to recover from Andrew?  Remind me, who was in office then?  I’m in New Orleans and I’m not delighted about how long recovering is taking but I know exactly who’s at fault.  LOCAL politicians and those of us who keep returning them to office.

Laura on August 2, 2007 at 11:24 am
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I cannot get over how in anyones view this has anything at all to do with Bush.  This has reached the tragic level of just plain stupidity.  I see Katrina mentioned also, c’mon, read, research, learn.  New Orleans had received millions and millions and millions of federal dollars over the years by many presidents, wanna know where the money went instead of infrastructure?  Do a little research you may be shocked to learn the truth.

Why don’t we try something different, lets quit blaming and start solving, lets quit listening to the politicians and talking heads and use our own god given talents.  Lets stop being the political lemmings they want us to be and get back to building the great nation we live in.

Mike on August 2, 2007 at 11:25 am
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I live in Minnesota and he immediately got a phone call from me.  That is so disgusting.  The states worst disaster and he is using it for political games.  Its no wonder congresses ratings are so low.  They obviously reflect the low morality of the people that are supposed to be representing us.

Dan on August 2, 2007 at 11:26 am

Doesn’t the federal government disperse money to the various states to maintain the roads?  I’m pretty sure the feds aren’t directly involved with road work in the various states.

This is absolutely true, Rob.  The construction and maintenance of roadways is the responsibility of the states.  Saying that there are not enough Federal funds to fix the bridges is also a copout.  When Federal funds are not forthcoming, a state could do what Texas has done in many instances, issue bond offerings to finance toll roads.  No problem getting road funds for that.


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docdave on August 2, 2007 at 11:28 am

Mike: I agree but Laura at least said, “I know exactly who’s at fault.  LOCAL politicians and those of us who keep returning them to office.” This wasn’t about Bush!

However: Facts and truth have nothing to do with this, it is the old, old story - tell lies often enough and sooner or later to a gullible public they become fact. The Democrats must blame everything under Heaven on Bush, since time began, it is the politics of personal destruction, and even if it ruins our country in the process the Democrats are more interested in power than doing what is right.


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Neiman on August 2, 2007 at 11:30 am

Freep:

Hmmm, it is a bridge of an INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.  I think that falls under the Federal umbrella.

Excuse me bucko, but when’s the last time you’ve seen a U"S Department Transportation” road crew fixing a stretch of highway or a bridge?

As The Ace points out, the feds disperse federal money to the states, but it’s the states that are responsible for maintenance.  Ultimately this disaster sits in the hands of the Minnesota Department of Transportation...whether it was preventable remains to be seen.

Before anybody can cry “funding cut” you would have to point to an actionable item that would have been fixed had there been more funding.  That’s why this “needs more funds” meme is so creepy.  It appears to have be a breakdown in the engineering community, pure and simple.  You can’t fix human error just by throwing more money at it.

Carrick on August 2, 2007 at 11:31 am
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Kent?  Greg?

Dan on August 2, 2007 at 11:42 am
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Thanks Neiman, you are right.  I’m not a Democrat or republican but I am sick of both of them, and the media hacks that will do and say anything for political power.  The Democrats are in real danger of completely polarizing our nation, and the Republicans seem impotent at best.  Seizing a tragic event for political gain is disgusting.

Enough is enough, as far as I am concerned all of them have to go, lets start over with folks who genuinely care about the nation and its people instead of personal gain, power and wealth.

There isn’t one person on this earth today who knows why that bridge collapsed, not one, yet these geniuses have somehow figured out it must have been Bush’s fault.  If we somehow now win in Iraq, when there is more and more positive news coming from there what are these people gonna do?

Mike on August 2, 2007 at 11:43 am

I’m in New Orleans and I’m not delighted about how long recovering is taking but I know exactly who’s at fault.  LOCAL politicians and those of us who keep returning them to office.

I’ve written that very thing right here on this site. (I’m in the New Orleans area as well) The Bush Derangement Syndrome is an amazing disorder. And the idiotic statement that it was somehow his fault that this bridge fell is a fine illustration of that.


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Before anybody can cry “funding cut” you would have to point to an actionable item that would have been fixed had there been more funding.

And not only show that funding was insufficient, but also show that funding which could have been used wasn’t wasted on some unnecessary pet project.


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Rob on August 2, 2007 at 11:52 am
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the only reason Bush is talking about fatalities is because he didn’t give MN enough money to maintain the bridge.

1. As already noted, Bush doesn’t “give MN money”

2.

U.S. President George Bush signed a $286.4 billion six-year transportation reauthorization bill Aug. 10, 2005 that covers federal fiscal years 2004-09.

Although the details of the reauthorization package are still being reviewed, Minnesota state and local governments can expect to receive about $3.5 billion in federal transportation funding through 2009, an increase of about 46 percent (or about $1.1 billion) over the previous six-year bill.

The bill is called SAFETEA-LU, which stands for “Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users.”

That was REAL difficult to find.

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The Ace on August 2, 2007 at 12:05 pm
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Some high-minded, deep-thinking libs over at DU are blaming GW and “global warming”.  Here is their logic: It was hot and humid, roads can buckle under prolonged heat, the globe is warming and Bush is doing nothing about it. Therefore GW and global warming are responsible.

Edward on August 2, 2007 at 12:13 pm
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Lileks commenters are blaming Governor Pawlenty’s “tax-cuts"… but…

...just as in Portland, Oregon… congestion is a tactic, to force people to use LightRail, which is funded by diverting Federal Highway funds that maintain that bridge.

Governor Pawlenty’s “tax-cuts” would did not take funding from the mainenance or repair of a Federal Highway bridge.

A much better case can be made that LightRail, rather then “tax-cuts”, brought down that bridge.

And although terrorists probably didn’t… now they know they can.

DANEgerus on August 2, 2007 at 12:25 pm
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The Democratic Party is a motley collection of windbags, Marxists, Socialists,pseudo Social Democracs, and political opportunists. It is an ideological mess. Playing politics with this tragedy is shameful. Soon Bush will be blamed for the hurricane season.

John Barry on August 2, 2007 at 12:27 pm

John, in your run down of the Democratic party regulars, you left out psychos and sociopaths, of which many post their ranting wild illogical comments here.


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docdave on August 2, 2007 at 12:55 pm

Gawd! How I hate retyping things.
“I have heard this all over broadcast media. The citizens are to blame for neglecting infrastructure. No blame placed upon the elected officials and civil service employees who actually created this, and other, nightmares. Why are we held accountable for their malfeasance,corruption, and indifference? And lets not neglect the contractors and THE Union responsible for building and maintaining all this infrastructure. Why are they skating away, happy and cashed-up? It is THEIR product that is collapsing. Why are they immune to prosecution for this heinous crime?”

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2Hotel9 on August 2, 2007 at 01:41 pm
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Man I just love it. Here we go again with the Katrina analogy. Remember these folks are dufusses! The governor and especially the mayor were responsible for the mess. Who had the plan, who could have taken action!

No matter how poor the FEMA response was or still is, FEMA don’t have NO hardware BRO! However Governors’ and Mayors do have access to hardware and law enforcement and they are closer to the incident. In Louisiana they didn’t use em. This bridge fell because it was old and poorly maintained. This is the same reason the one in my home state of Connecticut in the 1980s fell. Get a clue will you!

Redball6 on August 2, 2007 at 01:49 pm
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"What’s more, have we really departed so far from our federalist roots that we’re now blaming the President of the United States for not properly maintaining a bridge in Minneapolis”

Exactly.

The mask has dropped, and ‘liberals’ are once again revealed to be infantile collectivist totalitarian moonbats.

Greg on August 2, 2007 at 02:10 pm
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Bush was requested 380 bilion for infrastructure he was led kicking and screamin to a little over 250. He is the worst resident ever having been elected never. Those hwho still believe do so only on faith, as in without faith and to the denial of reality. We have slid down the slippery slpoe and many are please where we are. Those are the ones well invested and with enough resources to be immune from the punishment this coup as wrought on the American working people.

BLUEBIRD on August 2, 2007 at 02:45 pm

BLUEBIRD: Every President is involved in negotiations with Congress on Budget Appropriations and will naturally often appear to be dragged kicking and screaming into accepting a bill, when in effect he beat back the Congress’ desires to overtax and overspend our money by his posturing!

If you are going to attack the President, please at least use spell check so as not to appear illiterate.

A coup is he sudden overthrow of a government and seizure of political power, especially in a violent way and by the military. Please explain in detail how Bush accomplished this bloodless coup and why he would give up office now that he has established a military dictatorship in America.


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Neiman on August 2, 2007 at 03:23 pm
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Woah, slow down there blueturd...you sound like a weepy little girl who didn’t get a pony for her birthday. But then again, maybe you are.

model_1066 on August 2, 2007 at 03:32 pm
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infantile collectivist totalitarian moonbats.

Greg; I have to admit...that is one sweet slam...mind if I use it in my everyday life??

bsherwood on August 2, 2007 at 04:08 pm

Hey, bluebird, where do I put the quarter to turn you on to say such stupid stuff?  You certainly couldn’t have thought it up on your own so there must be a recording imbeded in you somewhere.


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docdave on August 2, 2007 at 04:41 pm

BLUEBIRD,

I don’t now where you live, of course, but most areas offer remedial English classes for adults and students, both as a primary language and secondary, either through a community college of some sort or those offered by a local high school. Such a course might improve not only your grammar, your diction, your spelling, and perhaps your keyboard skills, but in all likelihood, your ability to reason as well.

There is really no excuse for making the rest of us feel embarrassed on your behalf.


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Bat One on August 2, 2007 at 04:55 pm
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Bush was requested 380 bilion for infrastructure he was led kicking and screamin to a little over 250. He is the worst resident ever having been elected never.

Uh, is this English?

Also, how is 289 billion “a little over” 250?

The Ace on August 2, 2007 at 05:08 pm
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Resurfaced = repaving, not fixing the structural damage. The bridge is old and outdated to the current level of traffic.

A REPUBLICAN vetoed a fully pushed through budget that would have gone towards infrastucture, wether this would have gone to repairing the bridge though is unlikely as it was oked in 2005 and 2007, because it would have raised gas tax by .05 it was axed all together.

DSilent scream is the only one here who knows half of what they are talking about. Minnesota weather freezes and thaws over and over requiring frequent road repairs, but because of penny wise pound foolishness...this is the result. Is it wrong for Schultz to blame Bush? Not entirely, was it wrong to blame the Democratic Congress before all victims had been recovered? Absolutly. Is that the only lesson the administration learned from Katrina? That they didn’t blame Democrats fast enough?

By the way, Schultz is hardly afraid to debate anybody and doesn’t ‘whine about his low ratings’, in fact, he brags about how many markets he wins in . He debunks the right-wing myth that conservatives dominate simply because they are winning in a “free market.” Schultz explaines that the market is being controlled by a few ownership groups that are forcing conservative talk shows into local markets, and it’s absolutly true. It has nothing to do with the “fairness doctrine”.

“Radio stations are licensed to operate in the public interest. Promoting one point of view over all others does not meet any reasonable public-interest standard.”

Of course, judging from most of the comments here, I can see where honest, intelligent debate and investigation would be hard for most of you to concentrate on.

matty on August 2, 2007 at 05:31 pm

matty:

Minnesota weather freezes and thaws over and over requiring frequent road repairs, but because of penny wise pound foolishness...this is the result.

Actually ... this is rubbish.  The effects you are talking about affect the road surface, but has no effect on the bridge integrity.  Responsibility for bridge maintenance and repair falls firmly in the demesne of the Minnisota Department of Transportation.  And even then, it’s pretty hard to assign blame because they were acting according to the recommendations of the bridge engineers who examined the integrity of bridge 9340.

More matty BS:

Schultz explaines that the market is being controlled by a few ownership groups that are forcing conservative talk shows into local markets, and it’s absolutly true. It has nothing to do with the “fairness doctrine”.

Dude. You’re living in a fantasy world.

It’s the number of listeners and market penetration that leads to wide spread dominance by the conservative talk shows. That has nothing to do with ownership groups “forcing talk shows into local markets”.  You guys are really embarrassing to read sometimes, just cause you’re so damned ignorant.  In the end, it’s the dominance of the liberal media on TV and in print journalism that has created this market.

And before you piss all over me for popping your balloon, I don’t listen to any of the conservative talk shows myself.  I stick with NPR and BBC radio.. 

It would be interesting to see what would happen without NPR, perhaps it already fills the niche for liberal talk radio, making it hard for other liberal talk shows to make any market penetration?

Carrick on August 2, 2007 at 06:19 pm

Every person who looks to Washington to fix this problem and any others has no clue about this country’s roots. It’s the federal government’s job to do everything. Look at all the minimum wage nonsense. Why didn’t these people look to their state and local governments to set a minimum wage? They want a big federal babysitter.

That line of thinking was brought to you by the Clinton Administration.


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goon on August 2, 2007 at 07:50 pm
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We centrists have innumerable sources of amusement; one is the rightists’ knee-jerk squealing when more taxes for infrastructure are suggested.  Somehow the libertarian fantasy that needed transportation and sewage systems, etc., will spring into existence just when needed by rugged hand-waving individualists (aka wizards) seems to lurk in all their hearts.  Heh, heh.

Brian H on August 3, 2007 at 06:01 am

We centrists have innumerable sources of amusement; one is the rightists’ knee-jerk squealing when more taxes for infrastructure are suggested.  ..Heh, heh.
Brian H on August 3, 2007 at 07:01 am

Centrist, my ass. You’re a friggin’ socialist!

From tax on gas Minnesota DOT received $629 million in 2006.

Motor Vehicle Registration Taxes yielded them $484 million.

Motor Vehicle Sales Tax yielded them $362 million.

Federal Highway Funds to Minnesota $475 million.

But...what have you done for me lately, huh?


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Joel on August 3, 2007 at 06:26 am
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DSilent scream is the only one here who knows half of what they are talking about. Minnesota weather freezes and thaws over and over requiring frequent road repairs, but because of penny wise pound foolishness...this is the result. Is it wrong for Schultz to blame Bush? Not entirely

Hilarious parody.
You obviously don’t understand the difference between “road repairs” and structural integrity. But then again, you’re a liberal.

Don’t you find it the least bit odd that you can’t articulate what exactly Bush is to be “blamed” for?

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We centrists have innumerable sources of amusement; one is the rightists’ knee-jerk squealing when more taxes for infrastructure are suggested.

It’s not that we conservatives oppose raising taxes to fix infrastructure.  We just wonder why it’s such an awful thing to maybe look at some of the wasteful spending we’re doing with taxes already paid in, and maybe redirect some of that to useful things.

Like infrastructure repair.


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Rob on August 3, 2007 at 07:56 am

Brian H - We centrists have innumerable sources of amusement; one is the rightists’ knee-jerk squealing when more taxes for infrastructure are suggested.

So what you’re saying is that you “centrists” don’t recognize that the government is already swimming in money.

Somehow the libertarian fantasy that needed transportation and sewage systems, etc., will spring into existence just when needed by rugged hand-waving individualists (aka wizards) seems to lurk in all their hearts.  Heh, heh.

That’s just stupid Brian. We “rightists” are pointing out that the transportation bills are worth BILLIONS, so I don’t know what you’re going on about.

likwidshoe on August 3, 2007 at 08:47 am

Like most people who lack some of the more common cognitive functionality, Brian is easily amused.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on August 3, 2007 at 08:58 am

I been trawling leftard news and blogs, and still not one word about prosecuting politicians, contractors, and Unionscum who ARE responsible for such disasters as this. How typical.


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2Hotel9 on August 3, 2007 at 11:09 am
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Could someone please provide me with an email address for the support organisation for the victims of the bridge disaster so that I can send them a Blessing from God certificate from the website http://www.godsblessingsforyou.com

Like many others, I know they will appreciate the comfort and security of receiving a Blessing from God.

Copie on August 4, 2007 at 02:21 am
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... The bridge to nowhere was going to be built by a Republican Senator from Alasks—Ted Stevens—who is soon going to go to prison for corruption along with his co-Republican elected officials and his ugly, evil and retarded family. As for the collapsed bridge ... A terrible tragedy that I can’t believe has any party-political significance whatsoever. God bless the victims and their families.

Gary Ricin on August 4, 2007 at 10:38 pm

As long as you are blaming Republicans for your failed life you are happy? Is that you point, gary?


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2Hotel9 on August 5, 2007 at 03:47 am
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I don’t see that blaming anybody is very productive.

But if anybody is to be blamed, I’m going with Clinton.

geoff on August 5, 2007 at 11:14 am

All the numbers I have seen show Bush has put more money into bridges than Clinton.


Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

goon on August 5, 2007 at 11:47 am

Facts should always be referenced before opinions are expressed.  Rob is right on target with this.  There are no benefits other than spreading political agendas when facts, reason and common sense aren’t used.  Blaming others and complaining helps no one.

http://considercommonsense.com

kurtp on August 7, 2007 at 09:52 pm
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Sure blame Clinton. He hasn’t been in office for 7 years, sure you don’t want to blame the liberal main stream media while you’re at it? Those seem to be your two fall back whipping boys.

I didn’t realize Bush had such ‘godlike’ powers.  He can cause hurricanes and bridge failures, hide Osama and demolish the Twin Towers for his own lust for power!

Well, he does claim to have conversations with the big guy....maybe he can tell God to send the victims one of those electronic ‘god blessings for you’ that “copie” is pushing.

It’s the number of listeners and market penetration that leads to wide spread dominance by the conservative talk shows. That has nothing to do with ownership groups “forcing talk shows into local markets”.  You guys are really embarrassing to read sometimes, just cause you’re so damned ignorant.

You sure SOUND like a Limbaugh listener...Randi Rhodes does just fine up against the likes of Limbaugh, when she is given a chance. You know when most stations throw their bones to liberal listeners, when most broadcast Schultz? Over night, when everyone is asleep. either that or they broadcast Mr.milqtoast himself Colmes.

By saying “it’s the number of listeners and market penetration etc.” all you are arguing is that it is what it is because I say it is. That is to say, you aren’t really saying anything.

Fred on August 8, 2007 at 05:13 pm
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Sure blame Clinton. He hasn’t been in office for 7 years,

And yet, if you read the link instead of blithering blindly, you might understand that it is Clinton’s 10 year bridge repair strategy we are following today.

geoff on August 8, 2007 at 06:09 pm

There you go again Goeff using fact again.  You know how the confuses the lefties.

Of course the problem isn’t a lack of money but rather it will likely be a bad design and inadequate inspection techniques.  (Although that may not be anyone’s “fault.").

If there is fault to be had with the funding it’s that the politicians have a lousy sense of priorities.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 8, 2007 at 06:26 pm
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I am a left wing nut job and I generally agree with the above comments about
Ed Shulz. He is a blow hart and we don’t want him. He just makes the left look bad with his off the cuff remarks. I describe him as “ Andy Devine on crack “.

On the right, George Will or even Pat Bucannan are often thoughtful and articulate. They further “true conservative ideas”. Idiots like
Rush, O’Reilly and Shultz are hate filled entertainers, who are much more concerned with their own celebrity than discovering the truth. I get the feeling that these three would “say anything “ for ratings. I have the greatest of distain for those who have turned the news media into the equivalent of “professional wrestling”.

james on September 1, 2007 at 01:20 pm
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To 2Hotel9:
The “get a life,” “your own failed life,” “no meaning in your life” etc forms of non-secquitur responses to blogs and e-mails are about as stale, unimaginative, lazy, cliched and pointless as can be.

You clearly lack any ability for creative thinking whatsoever: of course, you are a Republican, so no surprises there.

You’re also clearly the kind of person who aggrandizes him/herself by pretending to possess insight and gravitas, but who can manage, at most, to lift one eye above the slime of medocrity that you slop around in to occasionally catch a glance at truth or reality. Even then, that truth and reality either passes you by, unnoticed, or it confuses you. You’re not up to meeting its demands, either intellectual or moral.

There’s an inane, stillborn, plastic and mass-produced quality to your thought process; your mind is a Mattel recall from China.

Having pointed out these obvious facts, I would like to offer you an opportunity to redeem yourself and come up with some kind of response to my comment about Ted Stevens’ criminal, ugly and retarded family that rises above the inane.

Looking forward to your failure.

That echo you hear is your opinion.

Gary Ricin on September 18, 2007 at 08:43 pm

Another failure writ large, gary? You never quite get it, do you? And it took you a month to write another pile of failure that no one is even going to read. We put you on the 10 word regimen after your first steaming pile of failure posted here. And don’t fret! We will still be here in a month when you post your next putrid bucket of failure.

And be sure to vote Democrat! Perhaps they can kill more innocent people in the next bridge they steal the maintenance funds from, and you can masturbate during the news coverage again.


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2Hotel9 on September 19, 2007 at 04:06 am
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To 2Hotel9
...And it’s taken me three months to get back to this site to write this… What’s your point? That you can count?

Speaking of Ted Stevens and his ugly and retarded/Republican family and cronies—See this?

ANCHORAGE, Alaska, Dec. 7 (UPI)—A former Alaska state legislator was sentenced to six years in federal prison Friday for taking bribes in a case that has entangled U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens.
Pete Kott, who served as speaker of the state House of Representatives, was also ordered to pay a $10,000 fine, The Anchorage Daily News reported.
Stevens, R-Alaska, is under investigation in the Veco Corp. scandal. During Kott’s trial, former Veco Chief Executive Officer Bill Allen testified that Stevens was among the recipients of money from the oil equipment company.
A jury convicted Kott in September after hearing testimony from former Allen, who pleaded guilty to bribery. Jurors also heard taped conversations in a Juneau hotel room in which Allen, Kott and Rick Smith—another Veco executive who has pleaded guilty—discussed getting an oil tax bill through the legislature.
In one conversation, Kott talked about wanting to be a lobbyist. Allen said part of the deal was that Veco would hire Kott when he left the legislature.

...Sorry, so who was that “stealing” bridge fund money?  A little louder, they can’t hear you in the back.

Two other points (now that we know you can count)

1.  I masturbate best in Airport bathrooms.
2.  See you in three, four, 10...? months—during which I hope you keep taking the medication.

Gary Ricin on December 12, 2007 at 11:38 pm

And who, in the Alaska Congressional delegation is currently pushing pork? What Party affiliation do they claim? I’ll be here when you toddle through and whine some more.


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2Hotel9 on December 13, 2007 at 05:28 am
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...You are STILL here… I was certain you were kidding. So I stopped by just to make sure. And, well. Here you are. How very sad and embarrasing for you. (And a cat? Clearly, you’re an intellectual and creative giant.) I shan’t be back. Way too depressing visiting your empty Hell. You’re still here..? Freaky.

Gary Ricin on February 18, 2008 at 10:15 pm

And you still have nothing. How sadly pathetic. And did you hear about another bridge going to pieces? In a Democrat controlled state and city? How it failed inspections for 8 years, and the Democrat controlled city and state covered it up and allowed it to deteriorate? Be sure to vote Democrat, you need the sight of more dead people to attain an erection.


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2Hotel9 on February 19, 2008 at 04:48 am
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