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  • Hank

    Nick Saban makes $5 million a year. Someone should have a cow about that.

    • Bat One

      Why? Like most other SEC schools, the Alabama football program does NOT operate at a loss. To the people who pay his salary he’s worth every penny. And in a free market that’s really all that matters.

      • Matthew Hawkins

        Do you really think that the football program meets the mission of the university?

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          I don’t believe so.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            That question is for Bat1

          • Bat One

            The obvious answer, Rob’s objection not withstanding, is to not saddle university athletics with programs that are not profitable, like “feel good” Title 9, and let the schools run only those programs that are self supporting. As currently configured, the programs that are, or could be, successful, are punished for their success in the interest of gender “fairness.” Which of course is anything but fair. Robbing the rich/successful/productive to support those which aren’t is wrong. And the wrong lesson for college students.

          • Bat One

            OTOH, if Alabama or Georgia decide to run unprofitable college athletics programs, its hard to see why that would be any concern to someone in North Dakota whose taxes aren’t impacted by the cost.

          • borborygmi

            Thats true.

          • borborygmi

            I am betting bama Basketball doesn’t make money.

          • Bat One

            I don’t know. I don’t follow SEC basketball much. But the same questions apply certainly. Is Coach K at Duke worth his 7 figure salary? How about John Calapari or Rick Pitino, or Jim Boeheim? They are all proven, consistent winner. Ultimately, that’s a question for the school itself, and, if the school is public rather than private, for the taxpayers of the state.

          • borborygmi

            Or on a lesser scale, coach Bohl? All the successful programs have the same thing in common, support from alumni, support from the fans. Investment into the program. THe amount of dollars generated in retail, bars, hotels is huge. Thats the payoff. The cyclical nature of school sports usually means an up and down cycle making it more difficult to privatize. What Alabama has done is crazy and makes them a legitimate dynasty.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            The mission of the university is not to run a profit. It is to maintain and transfer knowledge to the public. The math and physics departments don’t make money either, but they meet the university’s mission so we keep them around.

            Either intercollegiate sports meet the university’s mission and should be open equally to all students or they don’t meet the university’s mission and should all be shut down.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            You talk about profit and education as if the two had to be mutually exclusive.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            I don’t deny that it is possible for a university program to make money. But that is not a good enough reason to keep it around. A university program must meet the university’s mission.

          • Bat One

            Are you talking about a public, taxpayer supported university, or a private one? If its a private one then your high-minded concerns are essentially irrelevant. OTOH, if we’re talking about a public university, and one which you support with your tax dollars, then you might – just maybe – have an argument.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            I don’t think it makes a difference. I think the mission is the same for both public and private universities. If a program does not fit the mission of the university it should not be part of the university.

          • borborygmi

            They are open if you want to walk on and try out. You aren’t suggesting some sort of quota system are you, you secret little progressive you.

        • Bat One

          Does Duke’s basketball program “meet the mission of the university”?

          • Matthew Hawkins

            I think that an argument can be made that intercollegiate athletics teaches leadership, discipline and fitness. However, I am not sure a strong intramural program would not accomplish the same goal. Why do you fixate so much on Title IX?

      • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

        Does the Alabama football program run a profit? Very few of the sports programs do.

        And it’s high time the programs were removed from the universities. The goal of the schools is education, not a justification for a football team.

        • Matthew Hawkins

          Yes Alabama runs a profit. They are ranked about 7 th.

          Don’t fuck with Texas, they dwarf all others, yet they rarely win.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Well good for Alabama then. Maybe the football program doesn’t need to be a part of the university.

            Privatize it and run it as a business.

        • Bat One

          Yes, the Alabama football program is profitable. As are most SEC programs. And so would the programs of a lot of other schools were they not saddled with the federal mandate of supporting Title 9 sports.

        • borborygmi

          Rob lowers his lance once more. Down into the second ring of his own personal hell. Rob starting in ND, why don’t you and your cronies get signatures for a referendum at taking sports especially football and hockey out of respective ND Universities. By yourselves you might get a cool doz, but I know these football players… well just say they are experienced signature gatherers.
          Why does Rob bang his head against the symboiic sports in college wall, because he knows if he ever stops it will feel good.
          Rob I suggest you ignore NDSU and concentrate on Moorhead, they are with you because they don’t have a football team.

      • camsaure

        Do the players get any free passes for criminal acts as they do in Fargo?

        • Bat One

          Hardly. Two years ago a kid who was the Georgia High School athlete of the year and arguably one of the two or three most highly recruited HS quarterbacks in the country was picked up for underage drinking in Athens, a notorious party town. Coach Mark Richt not only kicked him off the team, but the University booted him from school as well. And it is well known that Nick Saban, Alabama’s head coach, is the strictest disciplinarian in college coaching. He too will tolerate no infractions of team rules. His temper is legendary.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            And Nick Saban went to a basketball game with Barry Sanders and his son when he knew he was recruiting Barry Sanders son. According to the NCAA this was a major violation. How about we not canonize him yet?

    • Bat One

      The only ones in Alabama who begrudge Coach Saban his salary are Auburn fans.

    • awfulorv

      That’s $5.6 mil, with incentives…

  • borborygmi

    Oh my Rob is going to have the cow. Does the Alabama Media pay more attention to the the Tide then the state legislature. My oh My.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      As a nation, we pay far more attention to sports and Honey Boo Boo than is healthy for us.

      • Matthew Hawkins

        In the 1920’s when a reporter commented to Babe Ruth that he made more tha the President he commented that, “I had a better year.”

        This is nothing new.

        Your offense while being a Yankee fan is duly noted.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          I don’t care what professional athletes in a free market. Pro sports is a private sector entertainment business. I do have a problem with how people venerate sports.

          And I have a problem with collegiate sports in general. We pursue them at the expense of the core missions of these universities. I think that’s something you’d agree with me on, if you’d stop being a troll for a minute or two.

          Yes, I love baseball. I’m a fanatic. But then, I also pay pretty damn close attention to how we’re governed too.

      • borborygmi

        anyone paying attention to honey boo boo needs counseling

        • sbark

          Honey Boo Boo endorses Obama – ComPost – The Washington Post
          —–the entire Left must care—-so therefore the entire Dem’cat party must need counseling?

  • Jeff

    Oops, sorry. Thought this “Dynasty” post was about NDSU football.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      For the record, I didn’t write this post, and I’m not entirely happy to see it on the front page.

  • Matthew Hawkins

    Thank god for cheating.

    • camsaure

      That must mean you approve being that you liken yourself to being some sort of lawyert.

  • sbark

    Appears Alabama isnt whistle clean either………….

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=alabama+football+violations&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=alabama+football+violations&sc=3-27&sp=-1&sk=

    —-got a few skeltons in the closest also, nothing like stopping a legalizing marry jane voting scandel

  • awfulorv

    The sports media is infected with the same sort of boosterism as it’s parent, mass media, has been of late. Whereas the mass media brought us Obama, TWICE, their tots, the jock sniffers, foisted Notre Dame on the boobs who read, and believed, their tripe. Recall that, before the game, ND was ranked #1. How can a team which barely beat Purdue, and had to go three OTs to beat Pitt. a team beaten soundly by Youngstown st., which was, subsequently, hammered by NDSU, realistically be #1? And the dottering old fool, Brent Mushmouth, should get on his horse and ride out of town, His homerism is becoming quite embarrassing.

  • awfulorv

    Last night, during the introductions, one of our astronauts was shown exhorting Alabama to beat Notre Dame, while spinning inside a space capsule. Shame on me but, I had no idea we had men in space, and not a clue as to what they’re doing up there. Somehow that’s unreal, that nearly everyone knows the odds on the game but are, in the main, disinterested in what’s happening up there. Also it seems unfair to me that an Alabama booster, in space, closer to God in heaven, should have the advantage of proximity to his ear, when praying for a win. Or, perhaps, Notre Dame, which came to adore Obama and, in so doing, gave support to his policies favoring abortion, has just experienced the first blast of God’s wrath.

  • awfulorv

    By the way, thanks to you Alabama for emphatically shutting the, insufferable, Notre Dame zealots the hell and gone up. Had the Irish somehow won or, worse, come close, and had a debatable call cost them the game, it would have seemed as if an annoying green bee was buzzing inside our inner ears, for God knows how long. Know what I mean?

  • awfulorv

    As for me, I’m leaving tomorrow for South Bend, with a load of Jalopies for sale to Notre Dame fans. An group which imagines a difficult Purdue, or Pittsburgh win, as worthy of number one ranking will, no doubt, be inclined to pay me exorbitant amounts for my junkers.

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