Doug Hoffman “Unconcedes” In The New York 23 Race

Proof • November 17, 2009

He did so on Glenn Beck’s radio show today.

Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman has “unconceded” in New York’s special House election after reports that the vote margin between him and Rep. Bill Owens (D) has narrowed.
Hoffman conceded the race on Election Night after learning he trailed Owens by 5,335 votes. But the Syracuse Post-Standard reported last week that the margin had shrunk to 3,026 votes after recanvassing.
Hoffman appeared on conservative commenatator Glenn Beck’s radio show this afternoon. Beck asked the him if he would “unconcede.”
“Yes, if I knew this information at the election night, I would not have conceded,” Hoffman said. Beck asked him again if he was “uncondeding” and Hoffman replied “If that’s possible, yes.”
Officials in the upstate New York district are still counting over 10,000 absentee ballots, which also had Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava’s name on them. Scozzafava dropped out of the race three days before election day citing poor fundraising and polling returns. She then backed Owens.

Owens would need to get 65% of the absentee ballots to win, and that’s unlikely to happen. I don’t think Hoffman will win. But just imagine if that’s how it ended up. Hoffman has not only been sworn in in the House, he’s cast votes.
But it is a lesson for politicians: Don’t be so quick to cave to media pressure to concede.

Tags: Asshats, Domestic Issues, Politics

sayanything-6955

Owens was sworn in, typo. Hoffman needs to get 65%.
sayanything-2407

Question: Is Acorn involved in this counting?
sayanything-81

"Hoffman has not only been sworn in in the House, heâ€™s cast votes."

What the f**k is he doing that for?

BTW, keep screeching. Dick Armey, Palin, Rush, Beck, and the flatearthers misjudged it is all. Quit being sore losers, losers.
sayanything-2407

Think you misunderstood what Rob was saying Sparkie.I donâ€™t think Hoffman will win. But just imagine if thatâ€™s how it ended up. Hoffman has not only been sworn in in the House, heâ€™s cast votes.I believe he was saying that imagine how that would be if Hoffman won and was already sworn in and casting votes…. essentially, what if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Conservative and not a Democrat who won and this happened.
sayanything-42

Ah, the Gore precedent…
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He didn't even win and he's flip flopping
sayanything-106

I think that with 10,000 votes still out there he should see how the vote counts goes first before conceding.
cneumi

I think the chances of him pulling a win out are minimal, and this "unconceding" isn't very bright–if there was doubt, he shouldn't have conceded in the first place. *shrug* Be interesting to watch and see how this plays out, though.
jimmypop

rookie mistake. i would not concede until i lost.
sayanything-81

It won't play out. It's probably BS. Look who it involves and where it originated. I doubt a farm animal will fart in this stories direction.

Also, if you want to unconcede, you don't do it on Beck's show unless you are a dumbaXX.
sayanything-81

"story's" rather
http://godlessliberalhomo.blogspot.com/ openid-11889

I can't believe that the Republicans are trying to steal another election. Republicans have a fanatical hatred of democracy.
sayanything-453

Yes!
sayanything-2407

I do hope your posting is a joke, if not, I think your ignorant of the issues here.
sayanything-453

sanity said:

I do hope your posting is a joke, if not, I think your ignorant of the issues here.

After posting this ignorant question:

Question: Is Acorn involved in this counting?
sayanything-453

Sanity said:

I do hope your posting is a joke, if not, I think your ignorant of the issues here.

Would you please post for us rubes what makes you knowledgeable of the issues here?
sayanything-15427

I think it was a typo, it happens, drop the outraged act about it…

His votes really haven't counted yet except to give cover to some other democrat so they could vote against healthcare

He should not "unconceed" even if he has the votes, he should just run again next year on the Republican ticket. To unconceed and try to take the seat now just makes him look petty, to let a false nominee stay where he is, when everyone in the US knows that he is not really the peoples choice, will only help in 2010 unless Pelosi kicks him out.
sayanything-2407

ellinas, it is a valid question as how many errors and problems and lets just call it cooking the books Acorn has had a hand in on the elections.

Only ignorance is yours if you discount the hand Acorn has had in bad politics.
sayanything-2407

wow – strike a nerve?
sayanything-2407

By the way, the Acorn comment was a joke, since they are embroiled in controversial votes at times.

But since you got ignorant about the Acorn comment, we can look at Acorns history of issues on voting if you want (not that I think it has anything to do with this case, since my comment was a joke and jab at acorn for thier history):

Democrats are split on how to deal with Acorn, the liberal "community organizing" group that deployed thousands of get-out-the-vote workers last election. State and city Democratic officials — who've been contending with its many scandals — are moving against it. Washington Democrats are still sweeping Acorn abuses under a rug.

On Monday, Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn's forms "are clearly fraudulent." On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year's general election.

….

Other Democrats on the ground have complaints. Fred Voight, deputy election commissioner in Philadelphia, protested after Acorn (according to the registrar of voters and his own investigation) submitted at least 1,500 fraudulent registrations last fall. "This has been going on for a number of years," he told CNN in October. St. Louis Democrat Matthew Potter, the city's deputy elections director, had similar complaints.

Elsewhere, Washington state prosecutors fined Acorn $25,000 after several employees were convicted of voter registration fraud in 2007. The group signed a consent decree with King County (Seattle), requiring it to beef up its oversight or face criminal prosecution. In the 2008 election, Acorn's practices led to investigations, some ongoing, in 14 other states.

MSJ – May 2009

The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud

To see the stink of Acorn, all you have to do is google Acorn and Fraud, though I am sorry you cannot see the backhanded humor of what i wrote wondering if they were involved after more votes were found, but in reality, Acorn is corrupt and that is my main intent on that backhanded humor of Acorn.
sayanything-4124

That was rude. I am surprised by this comment. You are not normally rude to questions or statements given by those that do not agree with you, unless you are doing a Robert108 tit for tat thing.
http://fu.com/ robert108

"…unless you are doing a Robert108 tit for tat thing."

Why the smear? I'm not even on this thread. Somebody piss in your Cheerios?
sayanything-4124

Grow up Robert. My point was about him going back and forth with the same people over and over. You happened to be the one that jumped to mind, but even then, there was no "smear" against you, as I said the only time I noticed that he WAS rude was TO YOU when he was doing a tit for tat thing, i.e., I said his rudeness surprised me, because the only time I noticed him being rude was in a back and forth with YOU and others. How exactly does it smear you to say that he is rude when he does a tit for tat with you?

Whatever. You know Robert, I am sure you are a perfectly nice person, and you often times have good posts and I find myself agree with your position on some issues, but you can sometimes sound quite paranoid and in need of a good Thesaurus to broaden your vocabulary choices beyond smear and lying.

"Piss in your Cheerios?" Whatever. Have a good night, and if you choose to pee in your cereal, well…….that's America. Regardless of what you think, I have no interest in "smearing" you. I don't spend time thinking of ways to smear you, or anybody else. I am sorry if you think so, but not much I can do to change your opinion, so I wish you a goodnight.
sayanything-81

Robert can't grow up. He's already a senior citizen. You think a young person would ever endorse the fascistic crap he does?
http://fu.com/ robert108

I'm grown up enough to recognize an egregious smear. I don't think "tit for tat" means what you think it means. I smack liars with the truth.
My vocabulary is fine, but the lefties and others on this blog merit only a limited range of responses. If you must blame someone other than yourself, pick someone else; I bite back.
As I said, I wasn't in this discussion until you mentioned me in a negative context.
http://fu.com/ robert108

Individual independence isn't "fascistic", sparkie; sorry I had to tell you that. You mostly use words without knowing what they mean.
AZteacher

Have you actually watched Glen Beck? He asks questions about the president, his czars, the SEIU, and Acorn – based on actual videos. He explains economics with experts from Columbia and such backing him up. He has a phone connected to the White House for those in the WH who are assigned to watch his show to call him during the show if anything he presents is in error. The WH and the media trash him and everyone else who disagrees with BO. However, they don't ever mention what was said that was not correct. They stick to ad hominem attacks – a usual liberal tactic. Watch Glen and see for yourself before putting him down.
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