Don’t Worry Old People, Your “Vote For Obama” Checks Are In The Mail

There was a time in this country, I like to think, when having the government send people checks as a way to “stimulate” the economy would have been laughed out of the halls of Congress as a transparent and superficial attempt at vote-buying. Today, unfortunately, it passes muster (among the political/media class) as sound economic policy.

More than 50 million retirees can expect to receive $250 payments from the government in the next few weeks as their share of the economic stimulus package enacted in February.
Economists say the payments will be a timely boost just as the recession is showing signs of easing a little.
The payments are part of the $787 billion package of spending and tax cuts enacted in February to help boost the economy.

Now all these people will get the checks in the mail that nice Mr. Obama and his fellow Democrats sent them. If it weren’t for them, those nasty Republicans would have just kept the money for themselves!
That’s the narrative liberals want to play out here, no doubt, though in public they’ll say they’re just wanting to help these people. As if a one-time $250 check was much of a “stimulus” or a help at all.
Really, though, the whole idea that these checks sent out to people can be “stimulus” at all is just laughable. If this money were coming from some external source of funds that might be true, but the reality is that this money is first being taken out of our economy before it is redistributed back into our economy. And along the way the government takes another hefty chunk out of the economy to pay for administering it all.
So yeah. These people are no doubt going to spend this couple of hundred bucks they’re getting. And those transactions will be economic activity. But it will be less economic activity then would have happened if the government had just left the money in the economy in the first place.
Meaning this is a net drag on our economic growth in general.
But it sure is nice to get other people’s money in the mail, isn’t it? Except that’s not entirely accurate. This isn’t just “other people’s money.” This is our great-grandchildren’s money. Our government has already spent all the money from the next couple of generations.

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  • http://Array Neiman

    It was the slam at “old people” I found so highly objectionable.

    Bill: Let me ask you, since I paid into it for most of my life and just started drawing some money out, what are you suggesting? Maybe we should just euthanize everyone over a certain age that aren’t working full-time, as I am, or have enough money in the bank to live without ever drawing out the money they paid in! That would make it available for younger people, like you and we the older generation, lets face it, we should just die and get the hell out of your way, right?

    I don’t like what is happening to our economy, I hate the welfare state of mind; but I hardly think it fair to make the older generation into bloodsuckers just for getting their monthly SS check.

    Instead of saying “FU, younger generations, I got mine” maybe we should focus on fixing the problem.

    So, to meet your standards all old people should not accept SS or Medicare and just die? Why is taking SS saying FU to anyone? It is easy to shoot off your mouth about fixing the problem, but how about having a little guts and say exactly what you want to do to the older generation so that you get yours later on? Let us have specifics, give it all back? Take no more? Maybe for those just living on SS should go to Concentration Camps and eat shit until they die? How about a specific solution that targets the older people you seem to hate!

    I am not trying to start a fight, but attacking older people and employing trite phrases like “we should focus on fixing the problem,” does not seem to contribute anything positive to the debate.

  • Neiman

    So, how is that MY fault? Should I send it back? Send it to you? What is your moral standard for what old people should do so you will feel better about something they never asked for?

  • Bill

    Oh fuck you you mooch. YOu have probaby drawn more SS then you paid in, and I am stuck with the fucking bill, all because you weren’t responsible enough to save for your own retirement.

    I have been saving for my retirement since I was 21, so kiss my ass, slacker.

  • Farm4$

    all because you weren’t responsible enough to save for your own retirement.

    Bill, please clean up your posts, your over the line on this one.

    I am pissed at this whole mess too, but neiman didn’t create it.

    I have not had a member of congress in DC since Mark Andrews. I have never voted for the liberal liars ND sends down there.

    Enjoy your great grand-children’s money,

    Rob, I did not create this problem either. All i want is my money back. No more, No less. Neiman, the current retiries, and those of us soon to retire should not be expected to solve this problem, EVERYONE SHOULD. And I do not want my kids, grandkids, or GGkids to pay for it. (BTW the GGkids deal is bartobamas stimulus debt not SS)

    Neiman, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND THANK YOU FOR OUR FREEDOM. May God bless you and give you a long and healthy retirement.

  • Bill

    Well. Friendly? No. But I don’t know how long I will have free speech, particularly on the internet, so I guess I have enjoyed being rather expressive. If you look at my posting history, I’m generally not a troll, and have even stuck up for the local crazy gay guy Dino, because of some rather homophobic comments made. (I am personally outraged about the blanket charges of racism and bigotry on conservatism, can’t stand it when the few ignorant make us all look bad) He may not remember it, but i called someone out here on it. But I am sick and damn tired, of people complaining about not getting enough of other people’s money..

    I’m not rich, I probably will never be rich, but I will be prepared, because I am taking matters into my own hands, because I know the geezers will have sucked the trust fund dry by then with their selfish desires. I’m tired of seeing my father, who went from being an abused runaway/high school drop out, to an important executive (still without a degree), from being exploited by vote whores who sell to the highest bidder. Unearned wealth is an atrocity, and has no place in any society that wishes to continue to stand.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Kevin, I think ‘old’ is old enough to get SS, about 62 or 63.

    I hope I don’t die before I get old.

  • FedUp

    Let me just say that $250 is not going to do a damned thing. For people on a fixed income this is a slap in the face, just like that munificent $13/wk in you pay check. Try to keep up folks when dear leader starts taxing the snot out of you!

  • pal

    If you have anyone at all in your family that has received one of these checks please have them send it back. Refuse it. Give it to charity. Put it away in a childs savings account. Please don’t spend it.

  • Neiman

    Sheet, my recent dental bills were 3 times that amount.

    My Dental Bill this week was 304.00, so I am $54.00 in the hole, even after I get the check!

  • Farm4$

    I know the geezers will have sucked the trust fund dry

    The geezers as you call them did not and will not suck the fund dry, CONGRESS STOLE THE DAMN MONEY. If all of the money we all paid into the fund had been left in the fund we would not have a problem.

    Also, It was the ‘great society’ of that damn LBJ and that old bitty lady bird (the power behind the blowhard) that put the medicare crap in there. With a democrat congress by the way.

  • bill-tb

    Last Sunday was Debt Day … after that it’s all printed paper. So does it really matter how much is printed, the results will be the same. Didn’t the past printed stimulus do great things for the economy? No?

    It’s beginning to look like this Obama ZERO has more emergencies than does an Indiana Jones flick. Indy solved his emergencies by stopping and thinking. Hmmmm, might be a good idea for ZERO to slack off on the pandemics and just try to actually do something.

    Somebody pull the plug on the creeps teleprompter before he hurts himself.

  • HG

    Bill,

    Most people who have paid into the system today will only realize a 1% return on thier SS investment. I could get 3% from the bank. The idea that Neiman is somehow benefiting from the $250 stimulus is a joke. His social security investment is far, far less than he could be collecting had he invested the money himself. Oh yeah, and when he passes on, his children don’t get the balance. The gov’t does.

  • http://www.focusonrecovery.net/ Travis, Family Resources

    Many appear to have the misconception that the powers-to-be are working to shore up the economy.

    If your household has over burdened itself with debt, the last thing you do is take on more.

    Therefore, it should be obvious that they are not trying to get us out of debt, but rather to get us so deep into debt, that our children’s, children could not repay, thus keeping us slaves to their Old World Corporatocracy.

    However, the paradigm is shifting. The people are waking up to see their chains.

    However, those who refuse to bow down to the Corporatocracy “Anti-Christ” will be detained and their earth-suits taken to FEMA camps for disposal.

    However, there is a much deeper agenda at work here that most have not considered, and few can’t understand, or don’t wish to realize.

    If you are open to the endless possibilities, see my Ancient Wisdom….

    (you may have to copy and paste into a web browser:

    http://www.focusonrecovery.net/mattersoffaith/Kingjamespre1611.html

    page where I have posted a massive amount of Law of One and other related information.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    How old are “old people?”

  • rightwing conspiracy

    and you also added so much to the conversation.
    :-)

  • TomTom

    Mexicans, Ghetto Blacks, Welfare Queens, Trailer Trash..That’s the Obama voter base. These people EXPECT Obama to makea living for them…and he is!

  • Mickey

    Don’t worry. Obama’s low quality, rationed national health care will kill off most of the elderly before they have a chance to use much of their social security.

  • docdave

    I

    hope I don’t die before I get old

    Believe me, Kevin, getting old is not something to look forward to. As they say old age is not for sissies.

  • rightwing conspiracy

    That was meant for hANNITIZED

  • Hannitized

    Rob ran himself in circles in this thread. There are so many contractions, straw-men and logical back flips, one wonders if Rob works in a paint chip factory.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Watch it, Bill. Neiman is a conservative who is against the Ponzi scheme known as Social “Security”. He is also a former Marine who served his country honorably while raising Marines!

    Learn to target a little better. Neiman isn’t the enemy here.

  • docdave

    As if a one-time $250 check was much of a “stimulus” or a help at all.

    Yeah, I just got a notification that the $250 will be added to my next SS payment. Oh, I’m so happy!! Think what I can do with that money!! Sheet, my recent dental bills were 3 times that amount. That money would stimuiate my next bowel movement.

    How old are “old people?”

    Kevin, I think ‘old’ is old enough to get SS, about 62 or 63.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    There was a time in this country, I like to think, when having the government send people checks as a way to “stimulate” the economy would have been laughed out of the halls of Congress as a transparent and superficial attempt at vote-buying. Today, unfortunately, it passes muster as sound economic policy.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    So, how is that MY fault? Should I send it back? Send it to you? What is your moral standard for what old people should do so you will feel better about something they never asked for?

    Enjoy your great grand-children’s money, I guess.

    I know it’s a little unfair for people who have, in fact, paid into programs like Social Security and Medicare for their whole lives. Were required to pay in, in fact. But at some point we’ve got to realize that the system is broken.

    Instead of saying “FU, younger generations, I got mine” maybe we should focus on fixing the problem.

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