Do Democrats Even Want To Win In Georgia?

In Georgia there’s a run-off Senate race between incumbent Saxby Chambliss and Democrat challenger Jim Martin which was mandated by Georgia state law because neither candidate got over 50% of the vote in the first election. This is an opportunity for Democrats to expand their Senate majority, but they seem to be squandering it.
The question is…why?

The runoff between incumbent Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss and Democratic contender Jim Martin takes place this Tuesday. Barack Obama has avoided appearing in Georgia on behalf of Martin. Turnout is always a challenge in a runoff election. Obama’s appearance would obviously lend significant assistance to the contender. Why has he avoided Georgia?

I think the answer is two-fold, one part obvious and one part conjecture.
For the conjecture part, I think Obama may not want to invest any political capital in this race in Georgia because Martin might lose anyway. Right now Obama is still riding high from his big election day victory. If he ties himself to this race in Georga and Chambliss wins anyway at least part of that goes away.
For the obvious part, I don’t think Democrats really want a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. They won’t admit to that, of course, but if their majority is so large that the Republicans are helpless to stop any part of their agenda suddenly they don’t have any excuses for not passing some of the more extreme aspects of their liberal agenda. The Democrats talk big taxes and big spending, but as illustrated by their backing away from promises to “roll back” the Bush tax cuts, they know those policies aren’t necessarily what’s best for America.
They have to campaign on them anyway, of course, because that’s the sort of thing their far-left liberal base wants to hear. But promising a socialist agenda and actually executing one are two different things, and most of these Democrats aren’t too stupid to get that.
Which is why they must appear to pursue such an agenda without actually getting anything done. If they can’t blame those nasty, evil, obstructionist Republicans for getting in their way they don’t have any excuses left. Plus, if four years from now things in this country aren’t going so well a Democrat filibuster-proof majority is going to be twisting in the wind.
Which isn’t a position Obama (who is appearing to be a lot more pragmatic than his campaign let on) or his Democrats want to be in.

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  • http://Array Dino

    That would be 30 years, not 20.

    30 years of deregulation, neglect and self-serving republican corruption.

    Or did the MSM make up all that stuff about Abramoff too? LOL

  • di butler

    BTW, Dino,

    Georgia is full of people of all colors and ethniticity, not to mention your favorite people. So, I guess you only care about the GLBT and people of color if they live in parts of the country you deem acceptable? You are a phony. If you really cared about these people it wouldn’t matter to you what part of the country they live in.

  • Dino

    Attaboy, now that’s what I call making lemonade when handed lemons! I love how conservatives can pull victory from defeat. Very inspiring!

    Take Georgia. Who wants any part of the south? When the states dis-unite, the south will be worse off than a third world country.

  • Dino

    That’s because we went through a spasm of conservatism. The democrats were victims of their own success having raised the standard of living of so many who got spoiled and became republicans.

    And how is that working out for people? That’s why I laugh at the “Reagan democrats” who abandoned the liberals due to appeals to their selfishness and greed. Now those union guys have lost their cushy union jobs and are folding clothes next to their wives at WalMart for $5.45 an hour.

    Our last liberal leader was LBJ. That explains the decline of the country over the last 30 years- people embraced the evils of conservatism. They’re paying for it now!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    …I don’t think Democrats really want a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

    What manner of medicine must you ingest to concoct such drivel?

  • Seth Williams

    That last comment by WOOF seems about right to me…if they’re serious about pushing their agenda, anyway. If the Democrats can’t get 2 Republicans to go wobbly on any one issue, or to have the stones to pull the trigger on the “nuclear option”, then they are either unserious about that agenda or politically incompetant. Or both.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Bike Bubba

    Who wants any part of the south?

    Well prior to Obama, the Democrats hadn’t had a President who wasn’t from the south since JFK

    Keep in mind, though, that Joe Biden once proudly noted that Delaware used to be a slave state. So there was at least a Southerner on the ticket, just like with JFK. I look forward to Biden asking his boss for a mint julep.

  • Mickey

    Dino is demonstrating a weak understanding of the history of the CRA and the democrat meddling that gave us this mortgage meltdown in the first place. Here’s a short lesson dino:
    1977 – Jimmy Carter enacts the CRA.
    1995 – Bill Clinton mandates that participation in the CRA be boosted by 80%.
    1995 to 2006 – Democrat activists strong arm mortgage loan operations to accept higher percentage of low income loans.
    2004 – Senator John McCain asks congress to investigate CRA (Freddi and Fanni)
    2004-2008 Democrats Dodd and Frank insist that CRA is solvent and there are no problems.
    October 2008 -(one month before election) Frank says CRA is in danger of collapse.
    November 2008 – dumdum Dino blames Bush.

    BTW 2007: US economy surpasses the Clinton economy in progressive positive quarterly growth. Even after he inherited the technology bust of the 1990,s. Bush managed to grow the economy through 911 and two wars.

  • Dino

    Poor Mickey. Rewriting history, spouting crap that makes no sense. All of his assertions have been dismissed by all but the 30 percenters, those walking brainstems that think anyone believes republicans DIDN’T destroy the economy!

    I am impressed though, how you people are able to reach back to Carter, leapfrogging your way around the fact that republicans controlled the country for much of the last 20 years and especially during the last 8 when they real damage was done. It shows originality AND delusion!

    You theories are so good that the people not only rejected republicans SOUNDLY in 2006, they handed the keys to the country to a BLACK, LIBERAL from Chicago who won not only the blue states but several solidly RED ONES.

    Oh, but wait. That’s because the libraaaal “MSM” wouldn’t give the republicans a fair shake, right?

    Keep believing fairy tales and we’ll keep slapping you down and taking away what little power conservatives have left!

  • Seth Williams

    Want has little to do with it: they aren’t likely to get that majority. Maybe they can, but Chambliss is likely to win in the run-off. Given that likelyhood, why would Obama want to risk political capital on a race he might not have an effect on anyway? You actually breezed by the answer in the original post.

  • di butler

    Dino,

    Got any more crap to say about my home town, asshole??? You have accused me of being everything in the book on this blog, and I am truly getting tired of it. You don’t live here, you don’t know a damn thing about Chambliss or Martin. I do. So Fuck Off!!!! And quit calling people racists and bullshit like that! Hopefully, Rob will get sick of your crap and block you.

  • Dino

    If the economic meltdown given us by decades of republican rule delivers like it did the last time republicans ruled and destroyed the country, this will not be pretty for republicans.

    By 1938 republicans had dropped to 19% of Congress and were locked out of the White House for 20+ years. That allowed the liberals to remake the country and inject it with a whole lot of socialism.

    Expect a replay.

  • Dino

    If you were him, would you being going in to that rat’s nest of violent racists?

    Presidents rarely campaign for Congressional Candidates. There’s lesser peons to do those mundane tasks.

    Besides, his full attention is on fixing the economic debacle visited upon the US by a corrupt and incompetent republican majority. Someone has to do it, you don’t see Bush doing squat except wistfully waiting for his library of People Magazines and US Weeklys to be built. It’s not even Obama’s job yet but typically, republicans leave all the heavy lifting for the democrats.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Who wants any part of the south?

    Well prior to Obama, the Democrats hadn’t had a President who wasn’t from the south since JFK.

  • WOOFX

    I don’t think Democrats really want
    a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

    Yes they do.
    The games just begun, it goes on till 2013.
    McCain beat O by 5 in Ga.
    O might see his presence as a hindrance to Martin.

    The D’s want that seat.

  • WOOFX

    Swiss heroin, pharmaceutical grade..

    What manner of medicine must you ingest to concoct such drivel?

  • WOOFX

    For most legislation the D’s will be able to attract R’s who want to be re- elected to stop filibusters. No doubt they’ll also lose some D’s on some issues.

    There is always the nuclear option.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    if they’re serious about pushing their agenda

    If they’re serious about pushing their agenda, why wouldn’t they want a filibuster-proof majority?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    What manner of medicine must you ingest to concoct such drivel?

    No medicine, just reality. I look at what’s actually going on and I analyze it. Unlike you, I don’t start with the assumption that whatever my political party is doing is right.

    Which is my I’m smarter than you.

    If Democrats really want a filibuster-proof majority why isn’t Obama in Georgia trying to win one?

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