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Rob wrote:

I have to wonder where Conrad’s priorities lay. With his constituents, who strongly support President Bush?

Senator Conrad is out of touch with North Dakotans.  In reading his “understanding” of Howard Dean’s position one would think he’s out of touch in Washington.

And yet, if he ran again the majority of North Dakotans would probably vote for him again.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Davey, I’m not sure you were alive the last time North Dakota voted for a Democrat for President.

ND supports Bush.

What’s the causal connection between those two statements?

I posted a link to a poll showing that only 43% of North Dakotans approve of Bush’s job as President, while 53% disapprove. You “refuted” that by pointing out that North Dakota has voted for every Republican president since Goldwater. And yes, those scare quotes are there for a reason.

This may be tough for you to understand, but it is possible to support the Republican Party and disapprove of Bush’s job as president. Apparently, that’s what a lot of North Dakotans do.

Davey, I’m not sure you were alive the last time North Dakota voted for a Democrat for President.

ND supports Bush.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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And yet, if he ran again the majority of North Dakotans would probably vote for him again.

I don’t know how you can say that. The majority of North Dakotans disapprove of his job as President.

That implies that they would approve more of a Dem President.

North Dakotans are no different than most disillusioned Americans at this point, just voting for the lesser of two evils.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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That implies that they would approve more of a Dem President.

Because ND has voted Republican for President since time out of mind.  If Bush ran against Kerry again, Kerry would lose.  Might be different if Bush had run against a Joe Lieberman, but the chances of Lieberman getting the Pres. nomination aren’t very good.

Which goes to the reason why so many North Dakotan’s reject Dem. Presidential candidates.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I wrote:

The majority of North Dakotans disapprove of his job as President.

That implies that they would approve more of a Dem President.

The point I’m making is that disapproval of the President does not translate into approval for Democrats.

Nor did I ever maintain that. All I’m trying to establish is that when you said North Dakotans “strongly support President Bush,” you were incorrect.

The point I’m making is that disapproval of the President does not translate into approval for Democrats.  Nor does disapproval of the President overall translate into disapproval over the war in Iraq.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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If I were you I’m not sure I’d let one little poll convince you of that.  The majority of North Dakotans voted for Bush.  There is no more tangible evidence of support than that.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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