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Did Palin Lie About Putting That Plane On eBay?

One of the most memorable moments of the most watched political speech this campaign cycle was when Sarah Palin said that she’d fought government waste in Alaska by putting her predecessor’s state-owned private jet on eBay.

The media (this time in the form of Obama’s hometown newspaper), scrambling for anything negative to bash Palin with, is claiming that The Barracuda was being somewhat less than honest about that.

When Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin sought to illustrate her frugality and flair to delegates at the GOP convention Wednesday, she described how she disposed of a corporate jet acquired by her unpopular predecessor.

“That luxury jet was over the top,” Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, said to loud cheers. “I put it on eBay.”

Palin’s statement implied the plane was sold through the online auction site revered for empowering millions of small entrepreneurs, and Palin’s spokeswoman insisted Thursday that the transaction occurred. But the plane failed to sell on eBay.

Instead, the 23-year-old 10-seat Westwind II was sold in August 2007 for $2.1 million to a Valdez, Alaska, entrepreneur; that’s about $300,000 less than a broker’s asking price, according to news accounts.

I don’t know anything about Palin’s spokesperson “insisting” that the plane was actually sold on eBay (I’m certainly not taking the Chicago Tribune’s word on what was said) it’s worth noting that Palin herself never claimed that the plane was sold on eBay.  She said she put it on eBay.  And she did.  She listed the plane on eBay three different times, but unfortunately it failed to sell so in order to unload it she sold it to a local Alaskan businessman.

So not only did Palin not lie, she did put the plane on eBay, her larger point about downsizing government for Alaskan taxpayers is absolutely true.  She got rid of the plane.

And good on her for that.

It’s this sort of shallow, baseless attack that is causing most Americans to rally behind Sarah Palin instead of join the liberals and the media (same thing) in their attacks on her.

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Before I go back to work: It WAS a lie! She placed a for sale notice on Ebay, that plane would not physically fit. So, if she claimed she put the plane on Ebay, she lied! smile

The plane Boss, the plane!


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Neiman on September 5, 2008 at 01:23 pm

but unfortunately it failed to sell so in order to unload it she sold it to a local Alaskan businessman.

Did she pocket that money?  I would rather she use it than steal tax payers money.


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Hannitized on September 5, 2008 at 01:24 pm

The State sold it, moron!  Are you really that desperate?

She acted in her capacity as governor.  You lefties are the ones who steal taxpayer money, in your racist, vote-buying pyramid schemes.


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Did she pocket that money?

Not the dumbest question ever asked on Say Anything, but a contender!



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The screenshot of the ebay ad is here.



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Proof on September 5, 2008 at 01:38 pm
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Once you start lying- no matter how insignificant- you will really lie when the stakes get high...and that my fellow Americans is what we have seen for the past 8 years..Obama for change…

Frank on September 5, 2008 at 02:51 pm

Frank: Palin didn’t lie, but Obama has; a lot.  He’s lied about his Muslim childhood, he’s lied about knowing what a racist Wright is, he’s lied about his relationships with Ayers and Rezko, he’s lied about the surge...and those are just the lies we have discovered so far.


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robert108 on September 5, 2008 at 02:55 pm
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She put it on EBAY because she’s Niggardly. She’s always trying to save her state money. the frugality of it all.

studakota on September 5, 2008 at 03:14 pm

She put it on EBAY because she’s Niggardly. She’s always trying to save her state money. the frugality of it all.

Wow… possibly the best use of the word niggardly I’ve ever heard!! Congrats!

Palin said she would put the plane up on ebay if elected and she followed through, that is the point.  The fact that she put a minimum bid that was slightly higher than what the plane was worth is to her CREDIT, not her detriment.  She tried to get the most bang for her buck!

Palin, you are my new political hero!


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Sphagnum on September 5, 2008 at 03:17 pm
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We should all be encouraged.  Little crap like this is the best the left can do against Hurricane Sarah?

She said she “put it up on eBay”, not that she ‘sold it on eBay”.  Next.  geesh.

Bill Mitchell on September 5, 2008 at 03:54 pm

Some people refuse delivery of the truth while claiming to hold the truth.

Such is the Democrat party today.

likwidshoe on September 5, 2008 at 04:02 pm

No Sarah didn’t lie - she put it on Ebay, whether it sold or not is irrelevant! She did what she said she was going to do.

Barack Hussein Obama lies everytime he opens his mouth, because he’s mis-representing himself to a gullible naive bunch of people who believe he is what he says he is. He’s not! The Libyans know it, the Palestinians know it, Al Qaeda knows it, the radical Islamic terrorists know it...everyone knows it but the suckered Democrats! Muammar Gaddafi, Libya’s leader stated BHO is a Muslim brother. I think these people would know one of their own! You liberal women Democrats are going to have to start wearing head scarves or that dreaded Burqa if he’s elected to the office of President. Within 100 days we’ll probably all be under Islamic Sharia Law...and people like White-hating Racist Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam leader, will be ruling with Hussein Obama from the White House.


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JazzyKat on September 5, 2008 at 04:03 pm

No Sarah didn’t lie - she put it on Ebay, whether it sold or not is irrelevant! She did what she said she was going to do. This women’s good character and strong moral values are driving the Demos crazy!...they don’t know what to do with her. They’re trying all the smears they can, hoping something...ANYTHING...sticks! LOL

Barack Hussein Obama lies everytime he opens his mouth, because he’s mis-representing himself to a gullible naive bunch of people who believe he is what he says he is. He’s not! The Libyans know it, the Palestinians know it, Al Qaeda knows it, the radical Islamic terrorists know it...everyone knows it but the suckered Democrats! Muammar Gaddafi, Libya’s leader stated BHO is a Muslim brother. I think these people would know one of their own! You liberal women Democrats are going to have to start wearing head scarves or that dreaded Burqa if he’s elected to the office of President. Within 100 days we’ll probably all be under Islamic Sharia Law...and people like White-hating Racist Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam leader, will be ruling with Hussein Obama from the White House.


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on September 5, 2008 at 04:06 pm

Sorry about that - I got an error message and didn’t realize it posted...Well double wammy is Good for this warning!


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on September 5, 2008 at 04:09 pm

No,McCain lied, he said she sold it on Ebay.

Puzzlefeet on September 5, 2008 at 05:12 pm

Don’t blame liberals you whiners.  Blame McCain, he is the one that started the need for correction.

“You know what i enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay — made a profit,” he said, introducing Palin.

Heh!!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Not_selling_on_eBay.html?showall


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Hannitized on September 5, 2008 at 05:16 pm

Within 100 days we’ll probably all be under Islamic Sharia Law...and people like White-hating Racist Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam leader, will be ruling with Hussein Obama from the White House.

JazzyKat,

You must have failed civics or you are a liberal plant to make conservatives look foolish.

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atease on September 5, 2008 at 05:20 pm
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I’m sure McCain inferred that it was sold on ebay, not that it was listed on ebay… hardly a lie.  But hey, you poor liberal saps have fun with that one.  I think you might be able to win the election with that.

HG on September 5, 2008 at 05:31 pm

Gang, she sold that plane out of selfdefense! Look at it? You actually want to be going onto and off of runways in a high stress environment zone like Alaska/Canada/Northern Tier states in that?!?!? Really?

I prefer a bit more landing gear between my ass and a runway. Especially going onto fields in the North Country.


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2Hotel9 on September 5, 2008 at 06:01 pm

JazzyKat,

You must have failed civics or you are a liberal plant to make conservatives look foolish.

No I’m practical and a realist and when I listen to Libya’s leader Gaddafi state this man is a Muslim brother, I’m wondering what he knows that we don’t know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSemkPChvHo

Why don’t you do your homework...there is an extremist element that is in this country...bringing in elements of Islam in our public schools, teaching American children the Koran, building alliances in our government and ketowing to Islamic ideologies in the name of being politically correct and standing on a platform of diversity.

The truth is NO ONE knows who or what Obama is...he never takes a position on anything and he never says anything of substance...other than “Change you can believe in”...but yet the liberals gush at the feet of their chosen one.

He’s sat under Racist Black Liberation Theology for 20 years and has been in bed with radical extremist and the corrupt political machine in Chicago before he became a senator. His senator record is that he voted “present” 130 times, meaning he couldn’t make a decision. Which also means, we don’t know what he stands for because he never voted Yea or Nay on anything significant, and we certainly don’t know WHAT he is....but it’s something we had better find out before putting this man in the highest office in the Land!

http://newsblaze.com/story/20080825054229tsop.nb/topstory.html

His church of 20 years featured Louis Farrakhan on the cover of their church magazine, just a few months before BHO bailed out because of the backlash of his racist mentor pastor, which speaks volumes if you pay attention. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to connect the dots if you have sense enough to see the dots!

People need to look at the Islamic nations and the leaders of these nations and what they are saying about this man...then you decide if you want to believe the rhetoric of this smooth lying politician! One thing I do know for certain, he is not what he is protraying himself to be! He may not be a Muslim now...but he certainly once was in Indonesia...He firmly denies it now, but we really we don’t know, now do we? But, Gaddafi says he knows! ummmm...very interesting!

I vote for “CHANGE I CAN TRUST!”


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on September 5, 2008 at 06:02 pm

This is what the Governor of Alaska needs to be commuting in.


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2Hotel9 on September 5, 2008 at 06:14 pm

Or this. With the underslung cargo module it is quite the machine.


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2Hotel9 on September 5, 2008 at 06:40 pm

JazzyKat,

I don’t disagree with what you stated above.  I disagreed with your 100 day comments.  Can’t happen in our system. 

Here alone in PA on the Monday after Thanksgiving, there are close to 1 million Americans with high powered rifles armed to the teeth.  Do you believe these same folks would bow to Sharia law, or anything that wants to take away our freedoms..?

That is where we disagreed.  You stood behind your convictions, so you are not a plant.  You failed civics.  : )

atease


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atease on September 5, 2008 at 06:52 pm

atease - that 100 day remark was extreme I agree...it would take him a little more time than that! lol

But American’s need to be very afraid of this man...because he has an agenda that is hidden, and his plans for this nation if he’s elected Commander in Chief will shock the very core of the liberal party that worships at his feet! He’s much more than the most liberal politician in Washington...he’s so much more than that! What he is exactly we do not know with absolute certainty...but every voter should do their homework and dig deeply into his roots, his history, his friends, and the alliances he’s been connected to throughout his adult life. Connect the dots and make an intelligent decision that will preserve the freedoms and sovereignty of this great nation!

I VOTE FOR “CHANGE I CAN TRUST!”


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on September 5, 2008 at 07:24 pm

Jazz is not too far off the mark. It fact, the nail has been hit right on the head [with the exception of the Shari’a law bit]

“Change” for Obama is really an invocation for radical socialism and means redistribution of wealth.

By hiding the reference he avoids having to be explicit about the radical goal behind the theme.

Alinksy taught practitioners of his methods the importance of raising the consciousness of the economically disadvantaged, who were typically minorities.

The goal is to stir the pain of economic suffering in order to create awareness in an economic underclass of its member’s disadvantages.

From there, the “community organizer’s” job is to mobilize the discontent into political power.

His teacher, Saul Alinsky,also advocated creating change through a set of carefully calculated poltical tactics, where the ends always justifies the means.

Make no mistake about it: “change” is Obama’s code word for creating a socialist revolution.

Alinsky taught organizers to hide their true intentions in the words they spoke. [ keep in mind all the ahs and uhs and ers in Obama’s measured answers i.e. Saddleback]

Denying the truth or just plain lying were and are both acceptable tactics, as long as the cause is advanced.

Alinsky taught organizers to ridicule opponents when the arguments of their opponents could not be refuted by logic, evidence, or debate.

You see, in the streets the old communist adage holds true: derision will cause the community audiences to laugh at their opponents, rather than listen to what their opponents are saying.

Blue Eagle Six on September 5, 2008 at 08:17 pm

Liberals-Socialists and communists can not stand people with integrity and honesty.  It is the opposite of what they are and the contrast brings their lies to the light of day.

Now we will see about how honest these feminists and women are as well as others.
For many of them, their lies of the 70s along with the NAACP will be exposed.  They did not and do not want equality.  They want inequality--for them.


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on September 6, 2008 at 03:30 am

Blue Eagle Six and Chief RZ - I agree Barack Hussein Obama is a socialist and will destroy America’s free society if he’s giving the chance. But there are many liberal white people who are socialist in America. Hillary is one of them.

However, there is a more dangerous element to this man than just being a socialist who wants Government to increase in power and who seeks to re-distribute wealth while taking away the freedoms we all love. He, Michelle and their children were raised on a doctrine of hate that was anti-American at its very root. This doctrine hates the whites, hates their Christian God. While it labels itself Christian, it’s not Christianity as we know it in America. The root of their so called “Christianity” is connected with Islam in ways most American’s don’t understand.

In fact, the Nation of Islam and Black Liberation Theology are two doors of the same room. Black Liberation Theology is a “palatable” form of black nationalism under the guise of “Christianity.” The fiery anti-American, racist words of Wright, Meeks, Pfleger, and Moss are from the same philosophical view as the Nation of Islam with the “Black Power” sentiment of Malcom X and Farrakhan. If people would understand the connection, they would understand why Wright’s Trumpet Magazine featured Farrakhan on its cover.

Hussein Obama’s connections to the Nation of Islam go deeper than Wright and his racist Anti-American rants. Louis Farrakhan’s political connections extend to Obama directly through Chicago politics and Tony Rezko and other unsavory characters of Chicago’s political corruption machine.

Malcolm X called the white man ‘the devil.’ The false Christianity of the white-devil oppressor must be replaced by an authentic Christianity fully identified with the poor and oppressed. Their theology is that if God doesn’t hate and destroy the whites, he is not their God.

The black intellectual’s goal, says Cone, who is the father of Black Liberation Theology, is to “aid in the destruction of America as we know it.”

This philosophy combined with socialism is what B. Hussein Obama will bring to the Oval Office. Washington will be more than a “Chocolate City” (as Spike Lee stated.) If Obama wins the highest office in the land - his administration will become the very essence of a combination of the Nation of Islam and Black Liberation Theology and Socialism that intends to destroy this nation as we know it and strip the hated white man of power.

If you want to know about a man, look at his friends and associations. B. Hussein Obama has many Terrorists/Marxists/Anti-American friends and associations. And that is who liberals want to elect as our next Commander in Chief.

That’s why he refuses to wear a flag pin, or put his hand over his heart during the national anthem and why he’s been taking his Anti-American message around the globe during his campaign. That’s why he felt no need to visit our troops during his world tour....and that’s why he’s loved by the terrorist leaders of these Islamic nations.


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on September 6, 2008 at 06:13 am

Jazz
Your comments are excellent. I can tell you’ve done quite a bit of research . If you don’t yet have an SAB reader Blog, please register for one.

The root of their so called “Christianity” is connected with Islam in ways most American’s don’t understand.
But there are many liberal white people who are socialist in America. Hillary is one of themBut there are many liberal white people who are socialist in America. Hillary is one of them.
In fact, the Nation of Islam and Black Liberation Theology are two doors of the same room. Black Liberation Theology is a “palatable” form of black nationalism under the guise of “Christianity.” The fiery anti-American, racist words of Wright, Meeks, Pfleger, and Moss are from the same philosophical view as the Nation of Islam with the “Black Power” sentiment of Malcom X and Farrakhan. If people would understand the connection, they would understand why Wright’s Trumpet Magazine featured Farrakhan on its cover.
Hillary is o Hillary is one of f them.

Like Obama, she too is a student of Saul Alinsky. She did her college thesis on him as a hero.

Here is Saul Alinsky’s dedication to his own book:

“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.

Keep up the great work.
Blue Eagle Six...out

Blue Eagle Six on September 6, 2008 at 09:39 am

Thank you Blue Eagle Six - I have registered to post a Reader Blog and posted one about BHO.

You said:

His teacher, Saul Alinsky,also advocated creating change through a set of carefully calculated poltical tactics, where the ends always justifies the means.

Make no mistake about it: “change” is Obama’s code word for creating a socialist revolution.

Alinsky taught organizers to hide their true intentions in the words they spoke. [ keep in mind all the ahs and uhs and ers in Obama’s measured answers i.e. Saddleback]

Denying the truth or just plain lying were and are both acceptable tactics, as long as the cause is advanced.

Alinsky taught organizers to ridicule opponents when the arguments of their opponents could not be refuted by logic, evidence, or debate.

You see, in the streets the old communist adage holds true: derision will cause the community audiences to laugh at their opponents, rather than listen to what their opponents are saying.

You’re right! B. Hussein Obama is following this Saul Alinsky script in all of his political maneuvers - and most people don’t even see it. Derision is the strategy of BHO and the liberal media in their efforts to neutralize Sarah Palin...but she’s tough and will not bend...in fact from everything I already have seen and read about her...this will only make her tougher and more determined than ever to bring down the house of this phony pretender who wants to take over America!

She fought the corruption in Alaska and won with odds that were not in her favor because she is a Pit Bull. McCain couldn’t have picked a better running mate anywhere in America!

We’ve researched Obama and know WHAT he is represents, by the very people he associates with. From everything I’ve seen, Sarah Palin does her homework too...Obama may have the media on his side, but every smear they put out I believe will backfire on them, big time! She wasn’t called Sarah “Barracuda” for nothing! I believe she’s gonna mop the political floor of this anti-American troll!


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on September 6, 2008 at 01:47 pm
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Now that she has national exposure, that jet would probably EASILY make it’s asking price… and then some!

WileyC on September 15, 2008 at 12:36 pm
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