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Sunday, October 12, 2008


Did Barack Obama Have An Affair?

The Daily Mail is running a story about an ex-Obama staffer who was allegedly “banished” to the Caribbean by an angry Michelle Obama:

Barack Obama is the target of a shadowy smear campaign designed to derail his bid for the US Presidency by falsely claiming he had a close friendship with an attractive African-American female employee.

The whispers focus on a young woman who in 2004 was hired to work on his team for his bid to become a senator.

The woman was purportedly sidelined from her duties after Senator Obama’s wife, Michelle, became convinced that he had developed a personal friendship with her.

The allegations were initially circulated in August, just two weeks before the convention at which Obama finally beat his opponent for the Democratic Party nomination, Hillary Clinton.

The woman, now 33, vigorously denies the vicious and unsubstantiated gossip.

And some Washington insiders suggested that she was the victim of an 11th-hour attempt to smear Obama by die-hard Hillary supporters.

But now the rumours have resurfaced, suggesting that they may be coming from elements in the Republican Party.

According to sources interviewed by The Mail on Sunday, the respected Los Angeles Times, the tabloid National Enquirer and the huge ABC television network have been provided with the woman’s name. . . .

In the most commonly-purveyed version of the rumour, she was ‘exiled’ to a Caribbean island because Michelle Obama objected to her job on the 2004 campaign.

A lawyer representing the woman said: ‘Although her duties on the [2004] campaign changed over time, there was never any hint that Mrs Obama had any concerns about her relationship with the Senator or played any role in recommending a change in her duties.’

True story?  I don’t know.  Seems like rumors like this tend to surface around the zero-hour of every Presidential campaign.  But I do think that Senator Obama should disclose this woman’s pay records, her travel records and her job history as it relates to working for his Senate staff and/or campaign.

Because if Andrew Sullivan can demand Trig Palin’s medical records to prove that he is, in fact, her son then we can demand this.

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Good Ol Boy on October 12, 2008 at 09:41 am

I don’t know.

But, we could be observing prima facie evidence as to why this may have taken place.

Ummm…

Eneils Bailey on October 12, 2008 at 09:43 am
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Well, we know for a fact that McCain had affairs.  He married the “other woman.”

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We know for a fact that McCain and his ex-wife drifted apart after he returned from Vietnam, and that he was all but officially divorced from her when he took up with Cindy McCain.

Fault McCain for that if you want, but that doesn’t exactly meet my definition of a nefarious affair.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 12, 2008 at 10:04 am

Oh, but then there’s Vicki Iseman, Rob.

Puzzlefeet on October 12, 2008 at 10:13 am

Rob’s double standard:

On a serious note, the questions about McCain’s past political dealings are fair, but this allegation about an affair which has no foundation in anything but testimony from anonymous McCain insiders is just plain yellow journalism.  Such accusations, especially when made by biased media types, are usually a lot worse than the reality of the situation.

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Puzzlefeet on October 12, 2008 at 10:18 am

Oh, but then there’s Vicki Iseman, Rob.

And then, there is your imagination; neglected by mother nature’s ability to nurture ones self, but fueled by generous doses of far left political manure.

Eneils Bailey on October 12, 2008 at 10:21 am
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Puzzled, I notice you missed this part:

True story?  I don’t know.

I just want to hold Obama to the same standard you liberals are holding McCain/Palin to.

If Iseman warrants front-page reporting from the New York Times, why not this?  If we can demand Trig Palin’s medical records, why not this staffer’s records?

Why the double standard, Puzzled one?  Why is the response from the left…“Bbbbut…MCCAIN DID IT TOO!!!

You people are children.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 12, 2008 at 10:22 am

Vicki Iseman… a lot of accusations…no facts.
Just hopeful, speculative, trumped-up news reporting.

Eneils Bailey on October 12, 2008 at 10:29 am

See that’s the problem, Rob.  You try to keep your hands clean by ending your headline with a “?” but the implication is clear.

And what I pointed out is your hypocrisy.  Why didn’t you write the same in the Iseman article as you did in the Obama article?

My response isn’t “McCain did it too”.  My response is Rob is a hypocrite when he writes about Obama.

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I’m not saying Obama had an affair.  I’m saying that Obama should be treated the same way McCain and Palin get treated.

Why do you hate equality?


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 12, 2008 at 10:34 am

Obviously Rob, they aren’t being treated the same, hence my comment on what you wrote because you aren’t treating them the same.

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I am treating the same.  I didn’t rush to judgment about McCain, and I’m not rushing to judgment about Obama.

What we’re talking about here is the media.  Why doesn’t Obama get the same sort of scrutiny McCain/Palin do?


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 12, 2008 at 10:50 am

prima facie evidence

heh. the stigma will prevent anyone from caring. just like the ‘unpatriot’ stigma of ‘01-03. heh.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on October 12, 2008 at 11:34 am
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This will soon be considered, “Just the tip of the Iceburg” with Obama..
Think Clinton was randy?..

Jerry on October 12, 2008 at 11:40 am
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Larry Sinclair must be pissed.


McCain/Palin ‘08
Palin/Jindal ‘12

exDemocrat on October 12, 2008 at 12:04 pm

If we can demand Trig Palin’s medical records, why not this staffer’s records?

Rob on October 12, 2008 at 10:22 am

We? Who is this “we” shit. Who among us “leftards” here on SAB demanded Trig’s records?

ellinas on October 12, 2008 at 12:17 pm
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I personally think he is in love w/ himself. I can just picture him looking in the mirror saying “You are so gorgeous! So sexy! So smart!” Probably too self-involved to notice anyone else.


“And gosh darn it, people like me!”

di butler on October 12, 2008 at 01:09 pm

“You are so gorgeous! So sexy! So smart!” Probably too self-involved to notice anyone else.

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“And gosh darn it, people like me!”


Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele


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realitybasedbob on October 12, 2008 at 01:17 pm
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Lord knows…

It must be tempting for our Messiah with all the “Stupid” females throwing themselves at him.
Fainting, etc..

Jerry on October 12, 2008 at 01:27 pm

I don’t have enough booze or paper bags in my house to make Michelle look good.

bustoff on October 12, 2008 at 02:19 pm
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that he was all but officially divorced from her when he took up with Cindy McCain.

By all but divorced you must mean still married living in the same house.

What about all the other affairs?

Can we also bring up the unsubstantiated rumors of Palin’s 1996 affair with Todd’s business partner Brad?

Gutter politics at it’s best led by Rob.

Lestat on October 12, 2008 at 03:19 pm

...but the implication is clear.

Only to a rabid partisan who has inferred something that’s simply not there.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 12, 2008 at 08:38 pm

Lestat,

I agree that unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo about extramarital affairs, or other attempts at character assassination, on either side, have no place in a presidential campaign.

On the other hand, its very difficult to find anyone on the “progressive” Left who can, and will, discuss issues and defend Obama and the Democrats’ policy proposals rationally and intelligently.  The best your side has to offer is hateful innuendo directed at Sarah Palin and accusation of racism directed at anyoone who disagrees or rejects Obama.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on October 12, 2008 at 08:50 pm

Wouldn’t you, if your wife looked like a young “Aunt Esther”??

wink


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Rabid American on October 13, 2008 at 09:34 am

The Daily Mail is running a story about an ex-Obama staffer who was allegedly “banished” to the Caribbean by an angry Michelle Obama:


Is this the democrat version of “Guantanamo Bay” ?

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Proof on October 13, 2008 at 09:58 am

On the other hand, its very difficult to find anyone on the “progressive” Left who can, and will, discuss issues and defend Obama and the Democrats’ policy proposals rationally and intelligently.  The best your side has to offer is hateful innuendo directed at Sarah Palin and accusation of racism directed at anyoone who disagrees or rejects Obama.

Bat One on October 12, 2008 at 08:50 pm

You are wrong.

ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 12:05 pm

overcompensating elinas stamps its little feet and proclaims:

You are wrong.

without further explanation or substantiation, thus proving Bat One’s allegation that:

On the other hand, its very difficult to find anyone on the “progressive” Left who can, and will, discuss issues and defend Obama and the Democrats’ policy proposals rationally and intelligently.

Am I ever glad overcompensating elinas is on their side!


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Rodney Graves on October 13, 2008 at 12:25 pm

You are wrong.

ellinas,

Well, then, perhaps you’ll show me where you or any of your other Obama supporter fellow travelers have defended The One’s plans for Social Security, or explained how raising taxes, personal, business, capital gains, dividends, federal excise taxes or FICA, will foster economic growth… particularly in a time when the economy has been weakening and growth appears to be diminishing, or justified the obvious disconnect between Democrat TALK of fiscal responsibility while endorsing more and more federal spending without so much as a hint of restraint.

I don’t believe you’ve ever seriously undertaken a discussion of any of these issues, but I’d certainly be willing to offer an apology if you can show me otherwise.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on October 13, 2008 at 01:34 pm

I am amazed that you are still looking for a silver lining in any proposal that comes from any politicians mouth. There is none. Time and again they say they will fix things, time and again they (Dems and Repubs) have lied. I too, like you believe in small government and less taxes. But it is my sincere belief that certain functions of the government cannot, and should not, be relegated to the private sector. Other than national defence you and I disagree what those functions are. Education, infastructure to foster commerce, health care, consumer protection, Social Security and worker protections to name a few. I differ greatly, IMO, in my core beliefs that those of the Democrats. So if I would be debating with you issues that are affecting us, they would be issues that are of interest to me and not neccesarily those that Barak Obama espouses.
The economy in my opinion is not weakening because of taxation but because of wholesale exportation of our industry to China and other places. If the jobs available pay for example $15.00 an hour, taxes collected by the government for the programs I mentioned will be nonexistant.
We need good paying jobs to shore up our economy. The employer needs to be unshackled from providing retirement and health care. Our education system sucks. It needs to be overhauled from the bottom up. We must realize that we cannot educate everybody, simply because not everybody can be educated. We need trade schools.
Social Security needs to be funded to the proper levels, and any money collected for Social Security should only be used for that purpose. Icould go on and on but I will say one more time for your benefit: Everytime a politicians lips move the SOB is lying.

ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 03:11 pm

overcompensating elinas’ manifesto:

I am amazed that you are still looking for a silver lining in any proposal that comes from any politicians mouth. There is none. Time and again they say they will fix things, time and again they (Dems and Repubs) have lied.

I call your attention to the “Contract with America” in which Republican House candidates and incumbents promised to bring a specific list of bills to the floor.  Each and every one of those items was indeed brought to the floor and voted on.  Not all passed, even more were shot down by the Senate, but every one of them made it to a floor vote.

How’s that “most ethical Congress in history” working out in comparison?

I too, like you believe in small government and less taxes.

You hide it well.

But it is my sincere belief that certain functions of the government cannot, and should not, be relegated to the private sector. Other than national defence you and I disagree what those functions are.

Private Enterprise
Local Government
County Government
State Government
Federal Government

Government Functions should be accomplished at the lowest level competent to accomplish the function and thus most accountable to the People.

Education

Should be handled at the local or county level.  Any government input beyond the state level should be terminated with prejudice.  State level funding should be by voucher to individual family, such that the family can apply them towards the school of their choice, be it any public school in the state, private (secular), or parochial.

infastructure

Infrastructure which crosses state lines and is essential to defense or interstate trade, sure.

health care

Bzzt.  Not the job of Government (other than public health for disasters and plagues).

consumer protection

Way too broad.  Specifically what protections from whom?

Social Security

A ponzi scheme which will be bankrupt in 30 years or less.

worker protections

In what way and from whom?

I differ greatly, IMO, in my core beliefs that those of the Democrats.

Best get out there and found the overcompensating elinas party then.

So if I would be debating with you issues that are affecting us, they would be issues that are of interest to me and not neccesarily those that Barak Obama espouses.

Oh. You have no candidate in this election and will be sitting out then?

The economy in my opinion is not weakening because of taxation but because of wholesale exportation of our industry to China and other places.

That is the entirely foreseeable consequence of our Corporate taxation practices.  Business will locate to the tax regime which allows them to keep the greatest proportion of their earnings.

If the jobs available pay for example $15.00 an hour, taxes collected by the government for the programs I mentioned will be nonexistant.

That’s the first thing you’ve got right so far.

We need good paying jobs to shore up our economy.

You have put the plow before the horse.  Besides looking really silly, it doesn’t work that way.

The employer needs to be unshackled from providing retirement and health care.

Having government provide either makes it even worse.  Leave it to the individual employees.

Our education system sucks. It needs to be overhauled from the bottom up. We must realize that we cannot educate everybody, simply because not everybody can be educated.

If you want that to happen at all, especially in any kind of reasonable time frame, get the Federal Government out of it.  Way too many enducation dollars go to administration, too few to the teachers.  More government exacerbates that problem.

We need trade schools.

Good luck with that.

Social Security needs to be funded to the proper levels, and any money collected for Social Security should only be used for that purpose.

Way too late for that now.  SS withholding has been going to the General Fund for generations, and has all been spent.  The question is no longer if Social Security will fail, but when.


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Rodney Graves on October 13, 2008 at 03:53 pm
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RBB,

Because she was in a beauty pagent she is vain? Maybe. At least she is very pretty. Barack is not a good looking man, no matter what all the looney Hollywood people think. Remember they all thought Bill was sexy, too. Yeah.

di butler on October 13, 2008 at 05:05 pm

di:  Fags like other fags.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 05:18 pm

Remember they all thought Bill was sexy, too. Yeah.

di butler on October 13, 2008 at 05:05 pm

Just because you did not line up for some felatio, it does not mean other females were not willing,and ready.

ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 05:42 pm

I said: “The economy in my opinion is not weakening because of taxation but because of wholesale exportation of our industry to China and other places.”

Rodney said in response: “That is the entirely foreseeable consequence of our Corporate taxation practices. Business will locate to the tax regime which allows them to keep the greatest proportion of their earnings.”

Let the cocksuckers go. They have to sell their shit someplace. It should not be the good US of A. Also a buissiness needs protection from competitors via binational and multinational trade pacts. Let the commies protect those cocksukers. Don’t come to the US for patent enforcement. Stay in fucking Malasia, and when the Chinese or others duplicate your product and sell it cheaper don’t come crying at Uncle Sams doorstep. You are either American or you are not. Feel free to leave this great country. Do not let the door knob hit in the ass.

ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 05:54 pm

The economy is not “weakening” at all; buying goods made elsewhere, if they are a better deal, is the way to economic strength.  In fact, the ability to outsource our capital and manufacturing is a sign of strength.  Marxist economic isolationists just don’t get it.  The only people “hurt” by outsourcing are the union thugs who thrive on monopoly, which is bad for everyone else.  We need to be done with unionism; it’s a relic of the Nineteenth Century, and has no proper place in a modern economy.  It’s just another example of leftie politics harming our economic system.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 06:36 pm

ellinas,

While I appreciate your detailed positions, the question wasn’t about your personal policy positions, but the unwillingness of those on the LEFT to offer any detailed, knowledgeable defense of the policy proposals put forth by your candidate and your party.

From your comments above, it would seem that there is more common ground between us than either of us may have thought, but my comment was,

... its very difficult to find anyone on the “progressive” Left who can, and will, discuss issues and defend Obama and the Democrats’ policy proposals rationally and intelligently.

Your comments hardly qualify you, economically at least, as a “progressive.  And in any event, you listed your own beliefs and policy preferences, not those of Obama and the Democrats which were called into question.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on October 13, 2008 at 07:48 pm

Bat One. No reason to defend Obama’s or the Dem’s policies for they are well known. You either like them or you don’t.
Debating the merits of someone elses ideas is fruitless.
Example: “No nation building” or words to that effect uttered by one G W Bush, candidate for the US presidency.
Reality: We are actively engaged in nation building under our president GW Bush.
My point is we don’t know how anyone’s presidency will turn out. We certainly can speculate, but our speculation will be without certainty. The Oracle of Delhi closed some 1800 years ago, and Pat Robertson cannot profesize the future because he is a quack, has been thoroughly debunked, and none of his profecies came to pass.

ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 08:39 pm

It’s Delphi, dude.  A Greek would know that.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 08:46 pm

It’s Delphi, dude.  A Greek would know that.
robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 08:46 pm

Grammatical error. Thanks for the correction though.

ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 08:56 pm

A spelling error, and a country error, dude.  Delhi is in India.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 09:01 pm
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Elinas,

No one who has any dignity or self-respect would ever get on their knees for Slick Willy’s willy. But yes, I am aware that there have been quite a large number of women willing to prostitute themselves for Bill.

di butler on October 13, 2008 at 09:57 pm

My point is we don’t know how anyone’s presidency will turn out. We certainly can speculate, but our speculation will be without certainty.

ellinas,

All the more reason for a thoughtful, in depth examination of a candidate’s past experiences and accomplishments (if there are any!) as well as past associations, beliefs and ideology.  The voters certainly cannot be expected to be so ignorant as to buy a pig in a poke… with or without the lipstick!


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on October 13, 2008 at 10:29 pm

di: And apparently quite a few who didn’t, but were forced to anyway.  The guy was a rapist.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 10:38 pm

A spelling error, and a country error, dude.  Delhi is in India.


robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 09:01 pm

Of course it is. But it is not the only Delhi.
Check out this one closer to home:

Delhi. Located in Merced County California.

Population in July 2007: 9,307.

Males: 4,701   (50.5%)
Females: 4,606   (49.5%)

Median resident age:  26.9 years
California median age:  33.3 years

Zip codes: 95315.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 08:18 am

But yes, I am aware that there have been quite a large number of women willing to prostitute themselves for Bill.

di butler on October 13, 2008 at 09:57 pm


di butler. What attracted these women to Bill?
Please elaborate if you can. Also reexamine the word “prostitute”.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 08:23 am

Irrelevant; the Oracle at Delphi is in Greece.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 08:27 am

ellinas,

All the more reason for a thoughtful, in depth examination of a candidate’s past experiences and accomplishments (if there are any!) as well as past associations, beliefs and ideology.  The voters certainly cannot be expected to be so ignorant as to buy a pig in a poke… with or without the lipstick!

Bat One on October 13, 2008 at 10:29 pm


Fact is, you already did the detailed examination and have decided that this Barak H. Obama and the Democrats are not to your liking.
One has to be rather dense, to keep looking at the same pile of shit and keep poking and smelling the pile, when it is obvious that what they are looking at is a pile of shit.
Keep on examining Barak Husein Obama, all you want. I can assure you you will find a myriad of reasons to not vote for him, and no reason whatsoever to vote for him.
Therefore I must conclude that this so called “thoughtful, in depth examination of a candidate’s past experiences and accomplishments…..., beliefs and ideology” serves a different purpose. What could that be Bat One?

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 08:38 am

Irrelevant; the Oracle at Delphi is in Greece.

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 08:27 am

Correction: It was. All that is left are the ruins and the history behind it.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 08:57 am

You got it wrong; an honest person would have owned up to it; instead, you indulge in distraction and bullshit.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 09:00 am

You got it wrong; an honest person would have owned up to it; instead, you indulge in distraction and bullshit.


robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 09:00 am

I spelled it wrong. That is all. Quit looking for monsters where there are none.
Be careful in your quest to slay monsters you don’t become one.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 09:08 am

You have no honesty and no integrity.  You named a city in India; you were wrong, and haven’t the honesty or integrity to admit it and move on.  You keep lying and distracting and rationalizing.  An honest person would have admitted such an egregious error, especially since you have made such a big deal about claiming to be Greek, and you don’t even know that the Oracle was at Delphi.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 09:12 am

You have no scruples dude. I spelled it wrong.
Get over it.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 09:16 am

You are the one with no scruples.  Now you’re lying.
Admit your mistake, it’s the honest thing to do.  You made an ignorant statement, especially in light of your claimed Greek heritage, it was an embarrassing mistake, one which puts your competency in question.  Better to admit it and move on.  The more you try to dodge, spin, lie and shift the blame, the worse you look.
If you can’t even spell your own stuff right, it calls everything you say into question.  The facts are not on your side here; humility is your best option.  You screwed up and look stupid; blaming the one who pointed it out just makes you look even more stupid.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 09:25 am

robert108,

Overcompensating elinas is playing a desperate game of catch up with blackwaterboob and eunuchized the beardless catamite of the “freudian projections” and inability to admit error.  Some suspect he resents being their junior partner…


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Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 09:55 am

Yes, the narcissists are competing for our attention by making stupid and arrogant comments…as usual.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 09:58 am

Very telling that you chose a misspelled word to call in to question what you describe as: “......one which puts your competency in question.”

Very desperate looking to create issues out of non issues.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 12:15 pm

Your continued desperate denials further put your honesty, integrity and incompetency in question. A self-professed Greek doesn’t know where the Oracle is located.  He thinks it’s in India, or maybe California.  Sick and twisted bullshit.
Admit your ignorance; it’s the road to healing yourself.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 12:20 pm

robert108,

Nah, let him continue his pursuit of blackwaterboob and
eunuchized the beardless catamite of the “freudian projections” and inability to admit error.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 12:31 pm

Prediction: GOP will retain controll of both chambers of Congress, handing the jackasses their fifth strait electoral loss in a row.

Rodney Graves on November 1, 2006 at 09:12 am


Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele


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realitybasedbob on October 14, 2008 at 12:34 pm

RG: Ignore the squawking of the delusional parrot.  I’m simply holding the alleged Greek’s feet to the fire.  The squealing is music to my ears.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 12:35 pm

robert108,

Have you noticed that a search of the SAB site for realitybasedbob+I+made+mistake returns a nul?


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 12:51 pm

RG: As you have seen with others, narcissists don’t even think they make mistakes; they just blame it on someone else.  rbb is safe inside his little narcissistic cocoon, safe from both the truth and actual reality.
Whenever he comments, remember to consider the source.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 02:53 pm

Two words describe my sentiment: Hah! ha!!.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 03:01 pm

overcompensating elinas,

One word describes your wit: “half”


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 03:02 pm

RG: The narcissist reveals its personal values.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 03:09 pm

r108,

If you’ll permit, I’d say that should read “its lack of personal values.”


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 03:29 pm

Rodney Graves. I wonder why you are a hater. I can understand why R108 is. He has scores to settle (got his ass whooped one too many times). But you? For the most part I treat you with respect, and avoid demeaning you.
So what gives?

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 03:45 pm

My point is we don’t know how anyone’s presidency will turn out. We certainly can speculate, but our speculation will be without certainty.


Click this for A McCain Presidency

Oswaldo on October 14, 2008 at 03:47 pm

That video explains why America doesn’t want McCain.

Oswaldo on October 14, 2008 at 03:48 pm

(got his ass whooped one too many times)

Resorting to fantasy violence again, I see.  Your continuing and desperate attempts to excuse your stupidity and incompetence are certainly amusing, as are your fantasies.  Neither RG nor I hate you; I pity you your arrogant ignorance.  It must suck to be you.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 04:05 pm

You have no scruples dude. I spelled it wrong.
Get over it.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 04:12 pm

I spelled it wrong.

Just another lame excuse.  You claim to be Greek, but you can’t spell “Delphi”?  Bullshit.
Maybe you don’t know how to use SpellCheck, or you just don’t know the place, and think it’s either in India or CA.
See, if you hadn’t done so much crowing and bragging about being Greek(including your threats of sexual assault), it wouldn’t be such an egregious error.  If you don’t know Delphi, how can you have any credibility on the Greek thing?
How could a genuine Greek not know how to spell Delphi?
Inquiring minds want to know.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 04:24 pm

How could a genuine Greek not know how to spell Delphi?
Inquiring minds want to know.

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 04:24 pm

If you think that your childish rants have any effect on me, I say to you: You are sadly mistaken, have vastly underestimated me, and have vastly overestimated your value as a rational human being.
I answered you. Sorry you cannot accept it. Nothing more for me to say or do.
Have a good night. Tomorrow is a new day. Maybe a good nights sleep will cleanse you.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 05:49 pm

Maybe a good nights sleep will cleanse you.

It is you who needs cleansing, phony.  I have done nothing other than to point out your egregious errors, and continue to do so as you duck, dodge, spin and lie to avoid admitting your error.  As usual for a lying leftie, you try to blame someone else for your sin.  The only way for you to come clean is to repent and atone for your sins of error and false pride.
You are a very sick poser; get help.

You have been exposed for the arrogant, ignorant phony you are.  More lying will only dig you deeper in your own shit.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 05:57 pm

ovecompensating elinas asks:

I wonder why you are a hater.

hate and contempt are two very different things.

For the most part I treat you with respect, and avoid demeaning you.

Who knew there was another Rodney Graves here on SAB…

So what gives?

We have more than our share of commenters here who are incapable of admitting error; we don’t want or desire any more.

Try “I screwed up” or “Mea culpae” instead.  You’ll find that will likely stem the haemorrhaging of your credibility.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 05:59 pm

Still ranting R108. Get a life dude.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 06:09 pm

Try “I screwed up” or “Mea culpae” instead.  You’ll find that will likely stem the haemorrhaging of your credibility.


Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 05:59 pm

I have repeatedly said it was a spelling error.
And yes. If you look back you will see that for the most part I treat you with respect, and avoid demeaning you.

I wonder why you are a hater.

hate and contempt are two very different things.

Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 05:59 pm

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 06:15 pm

Still ranting R108. Get a life dude.

Still lying and denying; I have a life, and it doesn’t require lying, like yours does.  Repent and atone, sinner!  Your sins are piling up with every lying comment.  This is all the result of your arrogant ignorance; no one else is to blame for that but you.  Take responsibility for what you did, and for what you have done in trying to cover it up.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 06:15 pm

I have repeatedly said it was a spelling error.

Another lie from you; you really thought the Oracle is in Delhi, and denied making a mistake at first, then you came up with the lame “it was a spelling error” bullshit.  You could have immediately said that you made a spelling error, but you didn’t.  Why is that?
I think you really don’t know, until you were schooled by me and Rodney.  You are consistently rude and disrespectful on this blog.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 06:20 pm

Another lie from you; you really thought the Oracle is in Delhi, and denied making a mistake at first, then you came up with the lame “it was a spelling error” bullshit.  You could have immediately said that you made a spelling error, but you didn’t.  Why is that?
I think you really don’t know, until you were schooled by me and Rodney.  You are consistently rude and disrespectful on this blog.

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 06:20 pm

Rodney Graves. If you have any honor whatsoever carefully read what I posted previously and try to reconcile it with what R108 is saying at his above post.
What a shame.

ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 07:43 pm

What a shame.

I agree; it’s a shame that you have to try to blame others for your mistakes.  Repent and atone!  Nothing else will save your credibility.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 07:47 pm

Overcompensating elinas,

The gripe between you and Robert108 is between the two of you and God.

Your credibility is yours to see to, and you’ve been told how.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
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Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 09:06 pm

Ellinas

I’ll be back shortly to help you shut these guys up. My wife says breakfast is ready (πρωινό είναι έτοιμη)

Oswaldo on October 15, 2008 at 04:39 am

πρωινό είναι έτοιμo. Whats for breakfast?

ellinas on October 15, 2008 at 08:35 am

Filet of boot sole.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 15, 2008 at 08:50 am

Maybe that breakfast is being served at the Oracle at Delhi.  Or maybe it’s the Oracle at Deli.  /humor


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 15, 2008 at 08:54 am

Overcompensating elinas,
The gripe between you and Robert108 is between the two of you and God.
Your credibility is yours to see to, and you’ve been told how.

Rodney Graves on October 14, 2008 at 09:06 pm

You inserted your self in this “gripe” and now you are weaseling out.
Here it goes:
“The Oracle of Delhi closed some 1800 years ago, and Pat Robertson cannot profesize the future because he is a quack, has been thoroughly debunked, and none of his profecies came to pass.”
ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 08:39 pm

“It’s Delphi, dude.  A Greek would know that.”
robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 08:46 pm

“Grammatical error. Thanks for the correction though.”
ellinas on October 13, 2008 at 08:56 pm

“A spelling error, and a country error, dude.  Delhi is in India.”
robert108 on October 13, 2008 at 09:01 pm

“Of course it is. But it is not the only Delhi.
Check out this one closer to home:
Delhi. Located in Merced County California.
Population in July 2007: 9,307.
Males: 4,701 (50.5%)
Females: 4,606 (49.5%)
Median resident age:  26.9 years
California median age:  33.3 years
Zip codes: 95315.”
ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 08:18 am

“Irrelevant; the Oracle at Delphi is in Greece.”
robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 08:27 am

“Correction: It was. All that is left are the ruins and the history behind it.”
ellinas on October 14, 2008 at 08:57 am

I could go on but the above timeline does not support this distortion:  “

Another lie from you; you really thought the Oracle is in Delhi, and denied making a mistake at first, then you came up with the lame “it was a spelling error

bullshit.  You could have immediately said that you made a spelling error, but you didn’t.  Why is that?
I think you really don’t know, until you were schooled by me and Rodney.  You are consistently rude and disrespectful on this blog.”


robert108 on October 14, 2008 at 06:20 pm

ellinas on October 15, 2008 at 08:56 am

How’s breakfast at the Deli?  You first claimed it was “a grammatical error”, then changed it, after many lies, denials and attempts at distraction, to “a spelling error”. Were you lying then, or are you lying now? You never owned it.  It was either your error, or just plain ignorance.

BTW, it’s “prophecies”.

Whether you admit it or not, the truth is that bad spelling equates to ignorance, and your bragging about your Greek heritage makes it all the more ignorant.
You made a mistake; the only question is: which mistake did you make?

This is the same old leftie bullshit of saying “mistakes were made”, without taking responsibility for making the mistake.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 15, 2008 at 09:04 am

Overcompensating elinas,

The way out remains to stop digging and admit you screwed the pooch.

Right now you are in hot pursuit of company the sane would sooner avoid.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 15, 2008 at 09:05 am

πρωινό είναι έτοιμo. Whats for breakfast?

Λουκάνικα και των αυγών (sausage and eggs)

What my wife actually said was “get your butt over here, breakfast is ready” in plain English.

Oswaldo on October 15, 2008 at 09:12 am

When I typed grammatical I was wrong. I should have typed spelling.
My bad.

Still you are dishonest as hell. You know English is a second language to me, however you chose to build a case on a spelling error and the meaning of the word “grammatical” which in the Greek language means both syntax and/or spelling.
Have a nice day.

ellinas on October 15, 2008 at 09:42 am

Still you are dishonest as hell.

Another lie from you.  I have been brutally honest, which is why you’re lying, denying, blaming, distracting and squealing so much here.  Now you want to excuse your error in calling Delphi “Delhi” by claiming English is your second language.  Delphi is in Greece, so your excuse is bullshit.
It is you who pile dishonesty on top of dishonesty here.
You finally admitted your error, and then tried to distract by blaming me for it.  Stop lying, and come clean!
I had nothing to do with your error.  It was all yours, and no one else is to blame for what you did wrong.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 15, 2008 at 09:47 am

Overcompensating elinas comes close, but then regresses:

When I typed grammatical I was wrong. I should have typed spelling.
My bad.

Which, had he ended there, would have been the end of it…  Alas, not:

Still you are dishonest as hell. You know English is a second language to me, however you chose to build a case on a spelling error and the meaning of the word “grammatical” which in the Greek language means both syntax and/or spelling.
Have a nice day.

Dishonest?  He’s just been feeding you rope.  The resultant noose is mostly of your own construction.  You can climb down, or you can go ahead and jump, makes no difference to us.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
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Rodney Graves on October 15, 2008 at 09:52 am

Rodney Graves. It is dishonest to say all those things that are not based on reality but on a spelling error. Did I spell something wrong? Hell yes. Did I use the wrong word to say it was a spelling error? Hell yes. But the rest was bullshit. Anyone replacing “grammatical” with “spelling” can see my error. My spelling error coupled with my insistence that I said misspelled whereas I used the word “grammatical” led to this folly.
But whatever. Live and learn. Learn that this world Is full of dishonest pricks.
Have a nice day.

ellinas on October 15, 2008 at 05:32 pm

Overcompensating elinas comes closer yet:

Did I spell something wrong? Hell yes. Did I use the wrong word to say it was a spelling error? Hell yes.

But having prefaced it with:

It is dishonest to say all those things that are not based on reality but on a spelling error.

and then further regressed with:

But the rest was bullshit. Anyone replacing “grammatical” with “spelling” can see my error. My spelling error coupled with my insistence that I said misspelled whereas I used the word “grammatical” led to this folly.
But whatever. Live and learn. Learn that this world Is full of dishonest pricks.

Which moots the admission of error.

Are you incapable of admitting error and just moving on?


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
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Rodney Graves on October 15, 2008 at 05:44 pm

Learn that this world Is full of dishonest
pricks.

Your every comment is a reminder of that fact.
You’re still trying to deny responsibility by namecalling and blaming others.  It was your error, and yours alone.
You keep trying to weasel out of that reality.  As someone who claims to be a Greek, you should be ashamed at such an egregious error, but you remain arrogant.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 15, 2008 at 05:59 pm

It was your error, and yours alone.

robert108 on October 15, 2008 at 05:59 pm

My error was a spelling error. I admit that.
For you to add the rest and pile on it with frivolous accusations shows your character and yours alone.

ellinas on October 15, 2008 at 08:19 pm

For you to add the rest and pile on it with frivolous accusations shows your character and yours alone.

You still have no shame for what you’ve done; you keep trying to rope me into your bullshit.  Your lying and denying is the cause for everything that came after your failure to take responsibility for your mistake(or your grevious error).  Look how many times it took you to come clean, smacking you with the truth every time you lied, denied and tried to distract and blame others, and you’re still trying to weasel out of it.
Grow up and take responsibility, for God’s Sake!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 15, 2008 at 08:26 pm
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