Di Fi Tells Obama: Listen to Your Generals

On This Week on ABC, Dianne Feinstein was asked about Afghanistan.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You met with the president this week. He had a group of members of Congress and senators down to meet with him. And I — we — we know — and you saw Secretary Clinton say that, as well — the president seems to have ruled out immediate withdrawal…
FEINSTEIN: That’s correct.
STEPHANOPOULOS: … from Afghanistan or a major increase of troops, in the hundreds of thousands. But did he reveal anything else about his thinking? And what did you recommend to him?
FEINSTEIN: Well, what he revealed was his thinking up to this point, and that the fact that he wanted to hear from various members, and some of us spoke up. And I’ll tell you what I said. I reviewed all of the intelligence and looked at the situation, and it was pretty clear to me that violence was up 100 percent, 950 attacks in August. The Taliban now controls 37 percent of the people in the areas where these people are. Attrition in police is running 67 percent, either killed or leaving the service.
And the mission is in serious jeopardy. I think General McChrystal, who is one of our very best, if not the best at this, has said a counterterrorism strategy will not work. The president said to us very clearly, just as you said, George, we will not pull out.
Now, if you’re going to stay, you have to have a way of winning. The question is, what is that way? And I think the counterinsurgency strategy, which means protecting the people, not shooting from afar, but securing, taking, holding, and providing security for a period of time is really critical.

The money quote is in this next exchange:

STEPHANOPOULOS: That leads to — that leads to a key question that I know the White House was debating, actually, this week. In order to defeat Al Qaida, do you need to completely defeat the Taliban or can you learn to live with the Taliban?
What’s your answer to that question, Senator Feinstein?
FEINSTEIN: I think it depends on what you mean by “Taliban.” I think if you take the Haqqani network, which I gather was generally responsible for the bombing of the interior ministry in Kabul, I think they’re hardcore fanatics.
If you look back, too, at Taliban control, when it had more in the earlier days, and I’ve got to tell you, I particularly worry about women in Afghanistan, acid in their face of children, girl children who go to school, women who can’t work when they’re widowed, huddled on the streets, begging, women beaten and shot in stadiums, you know, Sharia law with all of its violence, I mean, that’s one element of the — of the Taliban.
I think we need to look for those warlords that we can work with, those Pashtuns who want to work for stability, for good, solid governance. I don’t think we can make the country into a Jeffersonian democracy, but I do think you — you’ve got to stabilize this country.
You leave this country, and the Taliban are increasing all of the time. They’re taking over more. It will have a dramatic impact on Pakistan one day. I really believe that.
FEINSTEIN: Now, should we stay there for 10, 12 years? General, I don’t think so. I don’t think the American people are up for that or want that. But I think — I don’t know how you put somebody in who was as crackerjack as General McChrystal, who gives the president very solid recommendations, and not take those recommendations if you’re not going to pull out.
If you don’t want to take the recommendations, then you — you — you put your people in such jeopardy, just like the base in Nuristan. We lost eight of our men. We didn’t have the ability to defend them, and now the base is closing, and effectively we’re — we’re retreating away from it. And so I think the decision has to be made sooner, rather than later.

Dianne Feinstein is one of two Democratic Senators from California.
Cross Posted at Proof Positive

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  • http://Array AKA WOOF

    The Generals have a loooooong solid record of failure in Afghanistan .
    SO far they seem best at orderly withdrawal.

  • sayanything-4272

    Yet another corporate war-monger, like any other Democrat or Republican…

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    What’s your point, little dog? Should Obama ignore the general he picked to fight the war he said was not a war of choice, but a war of necessity? A war “fundamental to the defense of America”?

    This is not a war of choice. This is a war of necessity. Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again. If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans. So this is not only a war worth fighting. This is a — this is fundamental to the defense of our people.

    -Barack Hussein Obama, August 17, 2009

  • sayanything-12

    WOOF:

    The Generals have a loooooong solid record of failure in Afghanistan .

    Scapegoating the military for the Democratic bungling again, eh?

    Actually the military has done a spectacular job with the limited resources they’ve been given.

    The fact is, the war is unwinnable in the short run without controlling Waziristan. Seems like a certain candidate that some Democrats supported said the same thing once.

  • sayanything-342

    I’ll never understand why we give so much credibility to a politician’s point of view on war scenarios. Most politicians are sub standard intellectuals with limited general knowledge and personal life experience in warfare and military backgrounds. Even Obama, a man whose only background in battle that I can see was swatting fly’s in one of his staged MSM interviews lacks any practical firsthand knowledge that would grant his opinion worth a damn.

    He wastes everyone’s time, money and our soldier’s lives with his presidency.

  • http://norunnyeggs.com steveegg

    I don’t see DiFi saying, “Listen to the General,” as much as she’s saying, “Let’s be honest about wanting to lose Afghanistan.”

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Di Fi, for all her faults, is probably the closest thing the Dems have to a moderate. She is pro- death penalty and not nearly as objectionable as the Pelosi/Reid/Boxer wing of the party.

  • http://norunnyeggs.com steveegg

    You do realize that it is all politics for them, and that the Left has admitted that calling Afghanistan the “right war” was nothing more than a lie to get total power.

  • sayanything-42

    How dare she criticize The One; she must secretly side with the terrorists!

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    “Rut-Roh” Reader can change his name, but not his spots…

  • sayanything-6955

    Hmmmm, sounds vaguely familiar.

  • sayanything-98

    He can not handle The Truth.

  • sayanything-7765

    I agree with Feinstein. Obama should be listening to his generals.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Poodle, I seem to remember a time when the chant from liberals was “listen to the generals.”

    Now the generals are all failures.

    There was also a time when Afghanistan was the “right war.” Not so much any more?

  • sayanything-6955

    Professor, you have to get that blurry picture fixed. My eyes and ears lie enough to me, but usually in 20/20 vision and, ah hell I am half deaf so forget that!

  • sayanything-402

    WW I/II the POTUS tells the Military to win war and gets out of the way..we win. Korea..UN/Politicians call the shot…we had a stalemate. VietNam….Politicians calling the shots…we lost…..Iraq Desert Storm..POTUS says win and gets out of the way….we win….Iraq redux…Rumsfeld tries to run war instead of Military and we can’t. POTUS gets rid of Rumsfeld and tells Military to win war…It does…….Anyone see a pattern. Obama is going the path of McNamara. Listen to Di FI, let the Military do its job and we will win and change another middle Eastern Country to a form of Democracy that will allow its people to grow and become stronger.

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