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You are pre-judging the people on their character, by race, predicting their behavior without any reason or knowledge beforehand.

Wrong again!  I’m using facts(approx. 90% of blacks vote Dem anyway), Dems pander to blacks and promise them govt programs and special treatment like “affirmative action”, and generally demonize Republicans with lies about their character(like you do to everyone who doesn’t drink your KoolAid), and we now have a candidate who is playing his racial makeup to the max, even though he’s more white than anything else.  From that, it makes sense that he will draw even more of the black vote than a white Dem, especially when you know he’s a participant in black liberation theology and makes all the tax and spend promises of a typical Dem, combined with his race card identity politics.
It’s a fact-based prediction; no prejudice involved.

The reality is that I wish American blacks were less prejudiced.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Remember there is a significant number of African-Americans in the military that will vote for Obama purely for racial reasons!
Rob

This is exactly correct !

Why are you playing the race card here?  Can you explain what you mean by racial reasons?....

it sort of immunizes the poison you are spewing, doesn’t it?”
Hannitized on August 14, 2008 at 10:40 am

It’s Obama’s poison from his own lips and from his wife, his pastor and surrogate father,Jerry Wright, his lifelong friend, the academy award winning Father Flager, and thugs like Ludacris....and it was and is Obama who played and plays the race card repeatedly and without provocation.

I gave you an example of Obama’s poison [which he was immersed in for twenty years at Trinity] from the writings of James Cone; the godfather of black liberation theology [regularly cited by Rev Wright] as an example of the sick roots of that radical racial philosophy that pits blacks against whites by characterizing “all” blacks as victims of white oppressors and that’s used by Wright/Obama very effectively to unite blacks in solidarity against a “common enemy.”

The white God is an idol, created by the racist bastards, and we black people must perform the iconoclastic task of smashing their false images.

– James Cone, “A Black Theology of Liberation ”

Black Liberation Theology is but one thing: a perversion of Christianity intended by design to woo blacks from faith and toward Marxist thought.

This is why Obama got over 90% of the vote in the “PRIMARIES.”....all based solely on his race...i.e....because he’s black....with absolutely no thought being given to his twenty year racist/Marxist....internship at Trinity and his political upbringing in the corrupt Hyde Park political machine....which, by the way, is the epicenter of the “reparations” movement.

Blacks vote for Obama in overwhelming numbers because they have been incited and provoked into it. They have an attitude of entitlement because they have been brainwashed into believing in their own victim-hood by all the other poverty pimps.

An equivalent comparison would be the black mentality that acquitted the murdering thug, O.J. Simpson.

Yes. You are judging the people by race on their behavior without any reason or knowledge.

Your ignorance, racism and stupidity know no bounds.  I have already refuted that one.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

The contribution ratio should be no surprise to anyone. Most enlisted people only enlisted to get a free education. I am sure there is 20-30% that just want to kill someone, like the cop who just wants to fuck with people, or the firefighter who wants the “hero” praise (that’s more like 90% though).

Most just want to get the fuck out of there and come home. And they know that’s not going to happen if McCain get elected.

Buy American, Buy Union Made… the job you save might be your own.

Most enlisted people only enlisted to get a free education.

Another outright lie from you, “Buzz”.  Batteries in your vibrator die?
Our all-volunteer Army serves our country, which includes your union thug ass.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Yes. You are judging the people by race on their behavior without any reason or knowledge.

Your ignorance, racism and stupidity know no bounds.  I have already refuted that one.

No you haven’t.  What you have done is dodged a direct argument that provided definitions and specific challenges.  You “state” that you have refuted it, but there was no beef to your argument, only spin.

This is exactly what I expected from you Robert.  A two sentence counter that consist of nothing more than small minded nonsense and spin.

PP,

You like to act like you are expecting an argument from me.  And when you get one, you run away.

This has lowered my expectations of you and please don’t be arrogant enough to make ludicrous statements that I make a good argument once in a blue moon again.  You had a real challenge here and you dodged it because you knew you had nothing.  Nothing except your loony bird friend Robert to obfuscate what could have been and interesting debate.

Joel-sixpack,

Remember there is a significant number of African-Americans in the military that will vote for Obama purely for racial reasons!
Rob

This is exactly correct !

Would you mind explaining to me what those racial reasons would be?  I am dying to hear the extend of your knowledge on this subject. 

...and it was and is Obama who played and plays the race card repeatedly and without provocation.

Obama correctly identified that people like Robert, and you, would make ludicrous claims that blacks would vote for Obama out of “racial reasons”.  But you ignore the fact that 90% of blacks have been voting for white democrats for decades.

And sure enough, here you are supporting these arguments without facts and without data.

F-ing hilarious.

Ok, that is enough for me tonight.  I am off to Mai-tai bar to contribute to the local economy.

Keep lying, H; it’s all you have other than bullshit and personal attack.  You have yet to present anything resembling a factual argument.  You just spew your crap, and then praise yourself for having done so.  Pathetic.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

But you ignore the fact that 90% of blacks have been voting for white democrats for decades.

Only because the white Dems don’t really come through for the loyalty shown to them by the suckers.  You aren’t intelligent enough to properly evaluate what’s right in front of you, fool.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Little Robbyhavenoliferottinghymer,

You have yet to present anything resembling a factual argument.  You just spew your crap, and then praise yourself for having done so.

The MOST interesting thing about you is how you can completely lie to yourself and convince yourself you have made an argument.

Here you go son:

I am still waiting for you to explain how you came to this conclusion.  What facts do you have to offer such a claim? - HANNITIZED

But minorities anywhere, anytime, who see themselves as oppressed, misunderstood, neglected or abused - or sometimes simply as a group - tend to vote in a bloc for other minorities. - PP

What other minorities do they vote for?  Wasn’t Alan Key’s a minority? - HANNITIZED

R108,

Seems to me all one need do is look at the results of the Democrat primary races to verify what percent of the black population voted for Obama.  As Oprah put it so succinctly, “He be da one!”

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

But you ignore the fact that 90% of blacks have been voting for white democrats for decades.- Hannnitized

Only because the white Dems don’t really come through for the loyalty shown to them by the suckers. - Robertdummyhymer

Ok?  What is your point?  Do you have a point stuttering robot?

How is that relevant to the argument that 90% of blacks already vote for WHITE DEMS?

PP,

Note that you still have not demonstrated why you feel that minorities will vote for a minority, even though HISTORY SHOWS 90% of them DONT VOTE FOR MINORITIES.

B1,

That would be a good argument if it wasnt for the fact that 90% of blacks have been voting for white presidential candidates for the last 40 years!!!!

What, you want to double down on this losing argument as well?

Percentage of the Black vote in the GE!!

1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%

H,

Your argument is specious nonsense.  Your “fact” that black voters historically vote Democrat is meaningless since we are talking about only black registered Democrats in the first place.

Black voters have never had the opportunity to vote for a black major party nominee before.  But during this past primary season, given a choice between an experienced white candidate (Hillary) and a neophyte black candidate (Obama), black Democrats overwhelmingly supported Obama.  Given that the two candidates’ stand on issues was virtually identical, there is no other reason for Obama’s success among black Democrat voters other than racial identity.

He be da one!

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

It is sad that most blacks have rejected the party of Abraham Lincoln in favor of the party of Jefferson Davis.

But Ken, Lincoln did nothing for the sla, oh wait, nevermind…

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

It is sad that most blacks have rejected the party of Abraham Lincoln in favor of the party of Jefferson Davis.

Not to mention, Robert Byrd, Orville Faubus, Bull Connor, and Jim Crow.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

B1,

Your “fact” that black voters historically vote Democrat is meaningless since we are talking about only black registered Democrats in the first place.

Quite simply you are ignorant of the facts or you are lying.  I can’t do more for you than lead your horse to water, but nevertheless, here you go.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-19-kerry-black-vote_x.htm

The percentages I provided were numbers from REGISTERED BLACK VOTERS.  That is just not Democrats my friend.

I am out......good night.

B1,

And if your argument is that this debate is about only black Democrat votes, then you are wrong on that as well....as this post is about the American military who happen to be voting for Obama in greater numbers than McCain.

In short you are wrong twice.  Care to shoot for the tri-fecta?

But to be fair B1, that was the best attempt to distract from the original argument thus far. 

I respect your ability to obfuscate, but it is just not my style.

Given that the two candidates’ stand on issues was virtually identical, there is no other reason for Obama’s success among black Democrat voters other than racial identity.

Yes there is.  The fact that they could believe he might be better at understanding their challenges is a perfectly legitimate reason.  You just don’t accept it.  That isn’t a reflection of their racial bias, it is a reflection of yours.

Quite simply you are ignorant of the facts or you are lying.

Lying?  About what?  Where’s the lie?  My God, you really are a simpleton.  You couldn’t think your way out of a walk-in closet!

The percentages I provided were numbers from REGISTERED BLACK VOTERS.

Which simply proves my point!

Damn!  How willfully obtuse can one individual get?

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

The fact that they could believe he might be better at
understanding their challenges is a perfectly legitimate reason.

“understanding their challenges”?  What “challenges”, the ones that the race hustlers say come from living in “white America”?  That’s just code for “he’s black, I’m black, so I’ll vote for him.” You just blew any possible point you might have had, although you never did have one.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Note that you still have not demonstrated why you feel that minorities will vote for a minority, even though HISTORY SHOWS 90% of them DONT VOTE FOR MINORITIES.

Look, simpleton; they would vote for a black candidate if they could, and they now have a chance, so they are voting on a racial basis, along with the usual belief in Dem propaganda that they will “overcome” some day.  Are you really so simple that you don’t realize you make our argument every time you recite your little mantra?

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Oh, and P.S, the woman commissioned by the Democratic Party to direct its presidential nominating convention in two weeks espouses the same black liberation theology pursued by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose church’s presumptive nominee Barack Obama was forced to leave because of its controversies.

Those included Wright’s condemnation of America and a vicious attack on Hillary Clinton from the pulpit and only then did the Obama campaign announced the candidates resignation of his 20-year membership/internship in the church.

Now, the woman commissioned by the Democratic Party to direct its presidential nominating convention, Rev. Leah Daughtry, proudly embraces “black liberation theology” beliefs such as the “debt” the U.S. “owes” all blacks for slavery. [reparations]

Judi McLeod, a former Toronto Sun columnist, opined it will be “Rev. Jeremiah Wright in a skirt” as Daughtry leads the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

The congregation in which Daughtry was raised – the House of the Lord Church in Brooklyn, N.Y., has “Below the sanctuary, in the fellowship hall, a banner for slavery reparations proclaimed, ‘They Owe Us.’

Some would say with Marxist Momma in the top job, it’s little wonder why Barack Obama is the DNC’s Golden Boy coming to Denver with mainstream media garnered rock star status.

Tiny-seized sounds like the typical college punk from a liberal school who’s been brainwashed by his Marxists professors...... He/She offers nothing but fluff...from this point on, I will refer to Hannitized as “FLUFFY.”

Fluffy, there are two books currently available for you to read : hopefully it’ll help educate you:

The Obama Nation-Leftist Politics and The Cult Of Personality-by Jerome R Corsi, currently number one on the NYT Bestsellers List

Corsi, of Unfit For Commandfame, is getting [excoriated] by Obama’s campaign and his main stream media disciples.

They are attempting to discredit this book because of Corsi’s help in the Swift Boat vet’s book-Unfit For Command [John Kerry]. His book has over three hundred footnotes documenting international, National & Chicago newspaper articles, Wright’s Books, Cone’s Books, Obama’s book, Obama’s speeches & much much more......

There are some mistakes in it but it’s 95% accurate…

The second book is The Case Against Barak Obama-The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda Of The Media’s Favorite Candidate-by David Freddoso

It covers the same territory as Corsi’s but You don’t hear a word about it from the messiah’s campaign.

B1,

Lying?  About what?  Where’s the lie?

If your point was to say that MY statistics, MY argument and OUR discussion is about democratic black voters....you are either lying or ignorant.  The discussion was and has always been about McCain vs Obama and those minorities and blacks who voted more heavily for Obama.

Which simply proves my point!

Bullpuckey son.  As I said, you are trying to change the subject and obfuscate. 

I also argued that they could have a perfectly legitimate reason why they would vote for Obama over Hillary.  You just ignored it.

Yawn.

Joel-sixpack,

Way to leave the italics HTML code open, genius!

“understanding their challenges”?  What “challenges”,

What challenges?  Surely you jest!

Here are a few to chew on:

Republicans who accuse blacks of wanting affirmative action, even though they might not actually want it.

Republicans who accuse black of lacking personal responsibility when it comes to education (HI Rob and your precious North Dakota education system failures)

Republicans who call blacks racist for everything under the sun, including being upset and bitter about the historic institutional racism that ran rampant throughout our history and speaking about it.

To increase their capital accumulation and to control a larger share of the economic institutions in our community.

To increase their share of the economic institutions of America.

To increase their presence at the top level of management of all American economic institutions, including those in sports and entertainment.

To deal substantively with the widening gap between the Black haves and the Black have-nots, as well as the gap between the Black haves and have-nots and the White haves and have-nots.

To stop the continuing flow of drugs into our communities.

To increase their employment in entry-level jobs that require little or no training.

To reverse the economic decline of Blacks who are the most economically disadvantaged.

To rebuild the structures of the Black family, which was battered by economic and racist forces in the 20th century.

To increase their skill level and our participation in the skilled trades and the technological revolution. “their participation in the technological revolution may be the biggest challenge we face,” says Dr. Walter E. Massey, president of Morehouse College. “

To once again make education a No. 1 imperative in all Black homes. So much of our future as African-Americans is interconnected, Massey says. “It’s hard to achieve any of these without the other. But it’s impossible to achieve any of them unless we have an educated Black society,” says Massey, who became president of the historically Black college in Atlanta in 1995. “And it would be very difficult, maybe not impossible, to substantively improve education across the board, unless it starts in the homes.”

To deal substantively with the widening gap--economic and emotional--between Black men and Black women.

To rebuild the institutional structures of the Black community by dealing substantively with the sharp drop in the participation level of young Blacks in all traditional Black institutions.

To rebuild the institutional structures of the Black community by dealing substantively with drugs and unemployment and making it safe once again to walk, talk and visit in our communities.

To deal with institutional racism and to protect and build on the gains won by the great leaders of the 20th century. This is a battle we can’t afford to lose, Price says. “We must continue to fight all vestiges of racism, whether it’s in business lending, police profiling, home mortgage lending, hate crimes or the efforts to repeal affirmative action.”

To provide affordable health care for the 41 million Americans who are uninsured.

To support Black institutions and businesses, including Black media.

To develop win-win and strategies partnerships with communities of other colors.
To increase voting participation at all levels, from school board referendums to the presidential election in November. Smith says that some Blacks seem to have forgotten the power of the vote and what it took to secure it. “Those of us who are this age, who actually saw people die, we saw them die, in order that we could all vote, still have that passion,” Smith says. “We need to be voting on everything. And until the day we do, to me, it’s really a disrespect for those who gave their lives or battled in the street so that we could vote.”

To provide affordable housing for all.

To reform the judicial and penal systems by eliminating mandatory minimum sentencing, decreasing the disparities in penalties for drug convictions and making the court system reflect the broader society.

Reforming the judicial system is crucial at a time when minorities account for a disproportionate number of prison inmates, says Congressional Black Caucus Chairman James Clyburn of South Carolina. “A paramount concern is the makeup of various aspects of the judicial system,” Clyburn says. “The principles of equal justice under the law and judgment by one’s peers is seriously impaired when the makeup of the courts does not reflect the composition of the population upon whom judgments are made.”

To quickly renew the spirit of the Black community.

Reforming the judicial system is crucial at a time when minorities account for a disproportionate number of prison inmates, .....

To quickly renew the spirit of the Black community.
Hannitized on August 16, 2008 at 06:46 am

What a fucking dim-witted brainwashed asshole !

More education for Fluffy regarding her last comment:

Since the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the advent of the Great Society in 1965, “trillions” [that’s thousands of billions Fluffy] of dollars in transfer payments have been made to blacks in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements, and educational admissions)-all under the rationale of redressing historic racial grievances.

It’s said that reparations are necessary to achieve healing between blacks and other Americans.

If trillion-dollar restitutions and wholesale rewriting of American Law (in order to accommodate racial preferences) is not enough to achieve “healing,” what is?

Republicans who call blacks racist for everything under the sun,

Wow! When this moron gets wound up, there’s no stopping the baseless, mindless slurs he can come up with!
You wouldn’t want to provide some evidence for your scurrilous accusations? Links? I thought not! Merely the mouthings of an immature, lying troll!

Go play in traffic! Come back when you want to have a reasonable discussion, and not accuse Republicans mindlessly of doing “everything under the sun”. What a maroon!

Excuse me, you were saying?

"Republican” is apparently a catch-all bogey man to the immature mind of Hannitized. He projects his own faults and shortcomings onto them as a defense mechanism.
(He was probably frightened by the prospect of having to get a job and take responsibility for himself and he’s never gotten over the experience!)

Excuse me, you were saying?

Joel-sixpack,

What a fucking dim-witted brainwashed asshole !

More education for Fluffy regarding her last comment:

Since the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the advent of the Great Society in 1965, “trillions” [that’s thousands of billions Fluffy] of dollars in transfer payments have been made to blacks in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements, and educational admissions)-all under the rationale of redressing historic racial grievances.

Mind telling me what that has to do with the paragraph you quoted?  You know, the one that was talking about disproportionate amounts of minorities in prison?

I am looking forward to your genius explanation on the relation between the two separate arguments.

...there’s no stopping the baseless, mindless slurs he can come up with!
You wouldn’t want to provide some evidence for your scurrilous accusations? Links?

Hey Genius,

You can start with this post and read Joel-six pack talking about how the blacks at Obama and wife are racists.  Then you can link to yourself to your posts about how Obama’s church is racist, and how Obama is racist.

Then read Roberts comments on this post about how blacks and liberals are racist and then get back to me.

Really, you act as if you haven’t been on this blog.....ever.

links:

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/barack_obama_on_the_white_mans_greed/

Maybe we should listen to 20 years worth of sermons from Jeremiah “God Damn the US of KKKA America” Wright before we comment on his racist, America hating rants, too? - Proof Positive

and

Funny, I have read all of BHO’s published words now, and divisive and racist are certainly terms that come first to mind. - 2hotel

and

It must be hard to paint over the ugly history of your racist candidate. At least we know without a shadow of a doubt where you stand on such moral issues. -lickingshoes

......Mind telling me what that has to do with the paragraph you quoted?  .......Republicans who call blacks racist for everything under the sun, including being upset and bitter about the historic institutional racism that ran rampant throughout our history and speaking about it.......To support Black institutions and businesses, including Black media.
Hannitized, A.K.A. Fluffy

It’s a response to the “entire” bullshit comment you made dumb-ass. Try to connect the dots...it’s not that hard.

The little bitch is running scared.....and continues to ignore the truth....by ducking & dodging with comments like:

Joel-sixpack,

Way to leave the italics HTML code open, genius!
Hannitized on August 16, 2008 at 06:29 am

Hey Genius,

You can start with this post and read Joel-six pack talking about how the blacks at (sic) Obama and wife are racists.  Then you can link to yourself to your posts about how Obama’s church is racist, and how Obama is racist.

Liar.
In case you missed that word, or your ADD has kicked in again, let me repeat: LIAR!
Give me one quote, one citation, one single link where I said Obama was a racist.
You can’t do it, you lying, ignorant scumbag piece of dog excrement, because it isn’t there!

Please tell me how identifying Obama’s church as racist (which it is!)translates into “Republicans who call blacks racist for everything under the sun”? I never spoke about blacks in general, or all blacks, I spoke about the racist teachings of Jeremiah “God Damn America, US of KKK A” Wright at ONE church. Who is the Kahuna of the Kiddie Pool to interpret that to mean “all blacks”? What a racist piece of shit YOU are to do such a thing!

We call them racists, when they’re racists, numbskull! Do you have a problem with identifying racists, no matter what color they are? Isn’t racism evil enough that it should be identified and rebuked regardless of who commits it?
And we call morons like you lying scumbags when they get their facts wrong and they make outrageous lying accusations that they cannot prove!

Please, envious lying troll: A single instance of me calling Obama racist. If it happens as frequently as a lying troll like you says, it shouldn’t be hard. I’ll wait.

Otherwise, you admit here that you are either mind-numbingly stupid, mind-numbingly dishonest or both!

Excuse me, you were saying?

It’s funny! I call Hannitized on one of his spittle-flecked, mouth foaming generalizations, and he answers me with another one!
You’ve got to admit, that what he lacks in honesty, intellect and class he more than makes up for in entertainment!

Excuse me, you were saying?

Maybe we should listen to 20 years worth of sermons from Jeremiah “God Damn the US of KKKA America” Wright before we comment on his racist, America hating rants, too?

Speaking of Jeremiah Wright (one man, in case you can’t count that high, Hannitized!)...next!

Excuse me, you were saying?

Then read Roberts comments on this post about how blacks and liberals are racist and then get back to me.

Now you’re just lying again.  The Dem Party is the repository of racism, race hustling and race card playing in this country, but I never said “blacks and liberals” are racist.
Without your lying bullshit, you have nothing.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

I am looking forward to your genius explanation on the relation between the two separate arguments.

That’s an easy one; the dysfunctional Dem socialist welfare state breeds crime.  Adults who are treated like dependent children resent it, and that plays out as antisocial behavior.
When you don’t have to earn your money, but get it by having it taken away from those who do earn it, you have no responsibility for your life, and less connection to society at large, thus the tendency to criminal behavior.  Duh.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

To provide affordable housing for all.

Ah, the mommy/daddy welfare State!  That is the real “challenge” for blacks: to rise above the infantilization imposed on them by the racist Dem Party, and to take responsibility for their own achievements in life.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Joel six-pack,

It’s a response to the “entire” bullshit comment you made dumb-ass. Try to connect the dots...it’s not that hard.

Oh I see, so you quote a paragraph that has nothing to do with your response and expect people to connect the dots?  In the tool shed, I guess you would be the broom.  Sorry, I thought you were claiming to be the pick axe.

Did your mom feed you paint chips as a child?

Poof,

Give me one quote, one citation, one single link where I said Obama was a racist.
You can’t do it, you lying, ignorant scumbag piece of dog excrement, because it isn’t there!

Here you are my friend:

[

quote] Is Obama expected to know every sentence, and ever word Wright uttered in ever sermon for the number of years he belonged to that church, yes or no? - Hannitized

What a fatuous child! Did Robert KKK Byrd know every word of every speech he heard while he was in the KKK? What a ridiculous and absurd argument! - Proof

And

I pointed out what a ridiculous argument that was, as a person can be a member of an organization and in total sympathy with it without knowing “every sentence, and ever word” its leaders utter. I used the example of Robert KKK Byrd, because, undoubtedly he did not know “every sentence, and ever word” ever uttered a Klan rallies, but he was still a member in good standing. - Proof

So there you are very clearly implying Obama is a racist, as was Robert Byrd.

And.

We’re comparing the whackadoo, racially divisive, hate speech that his long time “spiritual advisor” spewed and that Obama himself has finally repudiated (now that it is politically expedient). The question is, how much of that hate speech did Obama buy into over the last twenty years?  - Proof

It wasn’t that hard kid.

We call them racists, when they’re racists, numbskull! Do you have a problem with identifying racists, no matter what color they are?

That is an interesting statement.  So who said it?  Did the trinity church members say that or did Proof?  Hint:  Proof.

The fact of the matter is the reason you hate the Trinity Church so much is because it consisted of people who called racists, racist.  But I guess only you get to do that, eh Poof?

Please tell me how identifying Obama’s church as racist (which it is!)translates into “Republicans who call blacks racist for everything under the sun”

Quoting that specific sentence of yours was not a representative of the argument that republicans call blacks racist for everything under the sun.

But it is true.  Republicans love to call blacks and democrats racists.  Just read this post.  Hell, you called me a racist for making the accusation.  How could that even be racist?

Here:

What a racist piece of shit YOU are to do such a thing!

So explain to me how I am racist for stating people call others racist?

You are about as sharp as a bowling ball.

Robert,

That’s an easy one; the dysfunctional Dem socialist welfare state breeds crime. Adults who are treated like dependent children resent it, and that plays out as antisocial behavior.

When you don’t have to earn your money, but get it by having it taken away from those who do earn it, you have no responsibility for your life, and less connection to society at large, thus the tendency to criminal behavior.  Duh.

That is the funniest fucking thing I have seen in a long time.  Hell, not even Joel-sixpack tried to make that argument.  But Robert, being the genius that he is, took that burden right on his shoulders, proving that there is no head there to think about it first.

F-ing hilarious.

It wasn’t that hard kid

It was for you, moron. Did you even read the quotes you posted? Where do I call Obama a racist?
In one quote I asked a question: How much hate speech did Obama buy into? That my young barbarian moron is a question, not a statement that he is a racist.

Really, Han-job! You are stupider and more dishonest than even I imagined. And that is no mean feat!

Excuse me, you were saying?

So there you are very clearly implying Obama is a racist, as was Robert Byrd.

I clearly imply that you are a lying piece of scum, with less intelligence than fungus! I don’t know that I have ever called Robert Byrd a racist, though I have frequently referred to his affiliation with the KKK.

And whatever I may have “implied”, you, the dishonest lying troll, said that I called Obama a racist, and you are clearly unable to find a place where I did, so you are moving the goalposts to something I may have implied in some way shape or form.

Go back to the kiddie pool, mind-numbingly dishonest troll. We tire of your bullshit and lies. And that’s all you’ve got!

Excuse me, you were saying?

Poofy,

You are going down a rat hole that I have been waiting for you to go down for a long time.

Where do I call Obama a racist?

In one quote I asked a question: How much hate speech did Obama buy into? That my young barbarian moron is a question, not a statement that he is a racist.

Here are your questions, since you asked for them:

Is Obama absolved of all racial hatred for going to the Trinity Church for 20 years?

So, how much hate do you think Obama bought into?

What is the point of bringing up that Obama went to a racist church for 20 years?

Is it possible that Obama did not buy into the racism, yes or no?

And whatever I may have “implied”, you, the dishonest lying troll, said that I called Obama a racist, and you are clearly unable to find a place where I did, so you are moving the goalposts to something I may have implied in some way shape or form.

Implying someone is a racist is the same as calling them a racist Poofy.  I can’t help you any more than that.

So are you saying that you were lying when you made the argument that Robert Byrd was sympathetic to the KKK, and therefore Obama is sympathetic to the Trinity churches racism?

Are you going to come out now and admit that Obama could not be racist for going to the Trinity church for 20 years, yes or no?  ‘

Are you going to clear his name now, once and for all?

You are about as sharp as a bowling ball.

And a MENSA candidate compared to you!

Implying someone is a racist is the same as calling them a racist Poofy.

Please! Not even YOU could be that stupid! Could you?  I said that Obama attended a church for twenty years that preached racism. In your fever swamp of a mind, that translates to e calling him a racist? I think it certainly raises questions about his judgment, but I never went so far as to call him a racist. There wasn’t enough proof.

However, there is ample proof that YOU are a dishonest troll. Mind-numbingly dishonest and mind-numbingly stupid.

And when you are proven to be full of crap, you change the question.

Are you going to clear his name now, once and for all?

What a bunch of horse hockey! The onus is on Obama to prove that he was not affected by Jeremiah “God Damn America and the US of KKK A” Wright, not on me, dishonest troll. But nice try!

Have you ever come to a thread you didn’t try to hijack?

Or ever not run from a thread after you have your ass handed to you?

Or ever made sense? (I know! I expect a lot!)

Excuse me, you were saying?

Proof & R108
I’m tired of this punk’s vapid , empty & mindless provocations....
It’s time for me to start ignoring Fluffy’s comments and posts like several others at SAB are already doing.

Here are your questions, since you asked for them:

How about my FIRST question, ADD addled troll:

Give me one quote, one citation, one single link where I said Obama was a racist.

I’m still waiting. The rest of your bullshit is just a smoke screen to hide the fact that once again, you shot off your mouth, lied through your fecal stained teeth and spread you meconium slime trail through another thread, without a single fact to back you up!

Excuse me, you were saying?

The onus is on Obama to prove that he was not affected by Jeremiah “God Damn America and the US of KKK A” Wright,

“Effected” in what way?  Please elaborate on what effect you are talking about!

I’m still waiting. The rest of your bullshit is just a smoke screen to hide the fact that once again, you shot off your mouth, lied through your fecal stained teeth and spread you meconium slime trail through another thread, without a single fact to back you up!

Here you go Poof, right off of SAB’s front page today.  Compliments of BAT!

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/more_democrat_racism/

As I said and now just proved.  Republicans call Democrats and blacks racists for anything under the sun.

And I don’t know what alternate universe you live in where you claim you aske something twice, when you only asked it once.

Here is the first time you asked it, but you write as if it was the second time.  Crazed, you are.

In case you missed that word, or your ADD has kicked in again, let me repeat: LIAR!
Give me one quote, one citation, one single link where I said Obama was a racist.

And then I provide quotes where you implied Obama was a racist and you hide.  What a typical response from a no talent hack.

Proof implies Obama is a racist, but he claims it is differen’t than calling him a racist.

Hmmm?  Let’s just see what the dictionary says about that!

Implied:

involved, indicated, or suggested without being directly or explicitly stated; tacitly understood: an implied rebuke; an implied compliment.

Yeah, you said it pal.  Your hiding behind implications is what I expect from cowards like you.

Joel six-pack laments:

This is why Obama got over 90% of the vote in the “PRIMARIES.”....all based solely on his race...i.e....because he’s black....with absolutely no thought being given to his twenty year racist/Marxist....internship at Trinity and his political upbringing in the corrupt Hyde Park political machine....which, by the way, is the epicenter of the “reparations” movement.

I don’t imagine you can link me to any state where Obama received OVER 90% of the black vote, can you peaches?

Further, how much does that differ from whites who voted for Hillary with 75% of the white vote???

Obama wins 90% of Black vote in Mississippi Primary --- Clinton wins 75% of White Vote

http://o-k.newsvine.com/_news/2008/03/12/1360170-obama-wins-90-of-black-vote-in-mississippi-primary-clinton-wins-75-of-white-vote

Only a dishonest hack like Joel-sixpack could ignore such a similar percentage.

The onus is on Obama to prove that he was not affected by Jeremiah “God Damn America and the US of KKK A” Wright,

“Effected” in what way?  Please elaborate on what effect you are talking about!

Sheesh! What a maroon! How can I carry on a conversation with it if it doesn’t know English? Joel is right. This guy is too stupid for words and too stupid to know just how stupid he truly is. Later, Little Kahuna! Buy a dictionary. Get your GED. Then come back and we’ll talk!

Excuse me, you were saying?

Affect:

1.  to act on; produce an effect or change in:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/effect

Proof,

You are dumber than dumb.  Affect produces a result or it does not.  If Obama was “affected” by wright then that created an “effect”.  And affect can not create an affect.  You idiot.

The semi-literate troll calls somebody dumber than dumb?

One is “affected”.  The consequence of being “affected” is an effect.

look it up genius:

Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation. The verb 2affect usually has to do with pretense she affected a cheery disposition despite feeling down>. The more common 3affect denotes having an effect or influence the weather affected everyone’s mood. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result the new administration hopes to effect a peace settlement. The uncommon noun affect, which has a meaning relating to psychology, is also sometimes mistakenly used for the very common effect. In ordinary use, the noun you will want is effect waiting for the new law to take effect the weather had an effect on everyone’s mood.

There is no “effected” in common, correct English usage.

H: Your complete lack of any type of factual rebuttal to my argument is noted.  As usual, you are reduced to your usual teenage attempts at personal attack.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

To any nameless, illiterate and dishonest trolls to whom this may concern: Obama may have been affected by his twenty year membership in the congregation of Jeremiah “God Damn America, US of KKK A” Wright. The extent to which he was affected is not yet fully known.
You, on the other hand, may effect a change in your life by going back to school and finishing the third grade. (Try paying attention this time!)

Now, go play in traffic!

Excuse me, you were saying?

Carrick,

Are you trying to be smart?

There is no “effected” in common, correct English usage.

Mind pointing me to where anyone used the word “EFFECTED” and not “affected”???

One is “affected”.  The consequence of being “affected” is an effect.

That is exactly what I said and you just supported my position you idiot.

Carrick,

Your idiot savant is confusing the word effect, the verb, with effect, the noun.

You guys are hilarious.

Poof,

Now that you have hopefully learned something..why don’t you explain what the effect is of Obama being affected by Wright?

Hannitized

^ worked his way through college as a fluffer in animal pron, and was damned good, nay, the best in the industry until the unfortunate accident with the badger.

"we should select our leaders on principle first, electability second.”

A young man whose wisdom far exceeds his years

Hannitized: Yes, on this point perhaps Proof is ignorant of proper grammar, which criticism will help her improve in the future; but you on the other are supporting Obama, so I believe the title “idiot” would more properly be awarded to you!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

You, on the other hand, may effect a change in your life by going back to school and finishing the third grade. (Try paying attention this time!)

That is one use..

4. When a noun is required, the word is almost always “effect.” This means “a result.”“The effect of diligent study habits is better learning.” “The effect of making the correct choice is a better grade.” (Do you sense a theme here?)

That is the more correct use..

This is how you use it...wrongly.

3.The occasional need for “effect” as a verb arises when the narrow meaning “to cause or to bring about” is appropriate.  These rare occasions often occur in some form of the expression “to effect a change” or, in police jargon, “to effect an arrest” (to cause or make an arrest happen). Nevertheless, it’s still best to avoid, particularly in the last example because it’s simply police jargon, and it’s good to avoid jargon.

Nieman,

Ok, whatever you say.  The truth of the matter is I win no matter who wins the election.  McCain is the best moderate Democrat we have had in years.

The reason I don’t become a Republican is because quite frankly I wouldn’t be able to stand the company.

That’s hilarious.  I post an explanation for the misuse of the word “effected” from the same source Hannitized used to start the argument.

Explaining why he’s wrong.

And he’s either to fucking stupid or too ignorant to admit he was wrong. 

Even on such a simple and obvious point.

Either way, you’re not worth my bother, dipshit.

Later!

No factual argument from H on the subject; just stupid attempts at parsing.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Sparticus,

That was one of the most cut and dry ad hominems I have seen in a while.  Congratulations on setting a new low in the bar of standards.

Dumbass Carrick,

You looked up the word “effected” and referenced EFFECt THE TRANSITIONAL VERB! You idiot!

I was using effect the NOUN in a sentence!!!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/effect

ef·fect
–noun
1.  something that is produced by an agency or cause; result; consequence: Exposure to the sun had the effect of toughening his skin.

So the consequence of Obama attending Wright’s church and being affected resulted in what effect???  What fucking effect you idiots?

McCain is the best moderate Democrat we have had in years.

Good one! I have to admit you are right on that one!

Affect
In order to understand the correct situation in which to use the word affect or effect, the first thing one must do is have a clear understanding of what each word means. According to yourDictionary.com, the word
Affect means:

To have an influence on or effect a change in: Inflation affects the buying power of the dollar.
To act on the emotions of; touch or move.
To attack or infect, as a disease: Rheumatic fever can affect the heart.

Effect
The word effect has a different meaning. Here is the meaning according to yourDictionary.com:

Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result.
The power to produce an outcome or achieve a result; influence: The drug had an immediate effect on the pain. The government’s action had no effect on the trade imbalance.

A scientific law, hypothesis, or phenomenon: the photovoltaic effect.
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Advantage; avail: used her words to great effect in influencing the jury.

The condition of being in full force or execution: a new regulation that goes into effect tomorrow.

Something that produces a specific impression or supports a general design or intention: The lighting effects emphasized the harsh atmosphere of the drama.
A particular impression: large windows that gave an effect of spaciousness.
Production of a desired impression: spent lavishly on dinner just for effect.

The basic or general meaning; import: He said he was greatly worried, or words to that effect.
Grammar Rules for Affect and EffectNow that we have the two definitions, how do we know which word to use? Here are a few suggestions to keep in mind:

1. If you are talking about a result, then use the word “effect.”

Example: What effect did the loss have on the team?

2. It is appropriate to use the word “effect” if one of these words is used immediately before the word: into, no, take, the, any, an, or and.

Example: The prescribed medication had no effect on the patient’s symptoms.

Example: In analyzing a situation, it is important to take the concepts of cause and effect into consideration.

3. If you want to describe something that was caused or brought about, the right word to use is effect.

Example: The new manager effected some positive changes in the office. (This means that the new manager caused some positive changes to take place in the office.)

4. Affect can be used as a noun to describe facial expression.

Example: The young man with schizophrenia had a flat affect.

Example: The woman took the news of her husband’s sudden death with little affect.

5. Affect can also be used as a verb. Use it when trying to describe influencing someone or something rather than causing it.

Example: How does the crime rate affect hiring levels by local police forces?

Example: The weather conditions will affect the number of people who come to the county fair this year.

What effect did this debate have on the subject? This debate will affect everyone differently.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.