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Saturday, April 28, 2007

Democrats Lie About Gen. Petraeu’s Testimony In Secret Meeting

General Petraeus was in Washington, recently, and met with out nation’s political leaders to talk about the war in Iraq.  The meeting was secret, for obvious reasons, but the politicians (as is their wont) have been talking a lot about what the General told them.

Only there’s been a marked difference between what Republicans are saying about Petraeus’ comments and what Democrats are saying.  Who do we believe?  Cynics will want to believe the Democrats, optimists will want to believe the Republicans, but we can actually settle the problem of which side more accurately portrays Petraeus’ comments just by looking at some of the other comments on Iraq the General has made publicly.

Which is exactly what the Mudville Gazette has done in a post that exposes the Democrats for a bunch of manipulative lying liars.  An excerpt:

On the biggest threat to U.S. forces and stability in Iraq:

[What the Republicans Claim Petraeus Said]: Al-Qaida, the shadowy terrorist group responsible for the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and whose involvement with Iraq - later disproved - was cited by President Bush as a key reason to invade four years ago. Iran also is causing trouble.

“Al-Qaida, he made clear, continues to make this the central front in their war with us,” Boehner said. “And I would remind everyone that we didn’t start this war with al-Qaida, they started it. ... And they are the major foe that we face in Iraq today.”

[What the Democrats Claim Petraeus Said]: Homegrown insurgents and the rampant violence between Sunnis and Shiites.

“Gen. Petraeus made it very clear that the sectarian violence was the most disruptive element,” Hoyer said.

[What General Petraeus Has Said In Public Briefings]:"Iraq is, in fact, the central front of al Qaeda’s global campaign.”

Q: You say that Iraq is now the central focus of al Qaeda’s worldwide effort. Are you saying that al Qaeda in Iraq is now the sort of principal enemy of the U.S. forces stationed there?

A: I think it is probably public enemy number one.

Al Qaeda in Iraq: Public enemy number one.  Meaning that the Iraq war is very much a part of the global war on terror.  A war that is tying up terrorist resources in Iraq so that they can’t use them to launch attacks on targets here at home.

A war the Democrats want to give up on.

This according to the General in charge of all military operations in Iraq.  A general appointed to his position by a unanimous vote of not just Republicans in the Senate, but the majority Democrats as well.

If the Democrats spent as much time actually listening to people like Petraeus as they do claiming they want to listen to people like him I can’t help but think that they’d have a much different position on Iraq.

Comments

As to the sectarian divisions, they date back a thousand years before the founding of the United States.

The depth and duration of that division, in other words, owes nothing to us.

It is Americans who have tried, at great human and economic cost, to make the Iraqis less tribal, less selfish, more imbued with a sense of a nation—and a nation that is not merely a place to be controlled by their sect or tribe or family.

The Americans have tried to encourage entrepreneurial activity instead of reliance, as in so many other Muslim states, on either oil money or foreign aid from “Infidels,” and to encourage the adoption of a Constitution that would actually move away from the Shari’a.

It has all failed. And that is despite the enormous efforts of American soldiers, who were never taught about Islam, and yet persevered, and were puzzled when the Muslims of Iraq did not behave, as those soldiers expected them to, as a grateful “Iraqi people,” but rather as a collection—with a handful of exceptions—of grasping, whining, greedy, meretricious people, eager to have the Americans do everything for them, eager to have them lavish them with aid money (thrown around, by the billions, like confetti), and distinctly indifferent to American losses when not taking outright pleasure in such losses, yet always willing to blame the Americans for everything.


All who have meditated on the art of governing mankind have been convinced that the fate of empires depends on the education of youth. —Aristotle ...

Joel on April 28, 2007 at 08:16 am
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I would like to address you Rob in one statement. I read your article on the Turtle Mountain Reservation. For a man who was raised with a silver spoon and whose great-grandparents where not ushered into the new age with rifles and small-pox. I hope you trip and fall and during that fall I hope you hurt yourself, maybe break a hip. If I were in your face I would spit on the path you’d take. Your a man of many words and few actions, strong with the pen and weak at heart. A man who will get a couple more readers by exploiting the poverty of a diseased few on a reservation made and enforced by yours truly the U.S. Government. I or one of my brothers will meet you maybe some irony catch you on the reservations littered with cars and babys running around in diapers and parkas. Let the spitting begin my white friend.

Justin Baker on April 28, 2007 at 11:15 am

For a man who was raised with a silver spoon...

Raised with a “silver spoon” now means middle class? Since when? It’s always meant rich.

I hope you trip and fall and during that fall I hope you hurt yourself, maybe break a hip. If I were in your face I would spit on the path you’d take. Your a man of many words and few actions, strong with the pen and weak at heart.

Just more of that special brand of Indian civility we’ve all come to know at this site.

A man who will get a couple more readers by exploiting the poverty of a diseased few...

Where is the exploitation? Answer that one. If you can.

likwidshoe on April 28, 2007 at 11:33 am
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