Yawn…

“How are those unemployed people supposed to afford health care when they are unemployed…?”

So, idiot, what a responsible President would be doing is to remove the barriers to employment and investment in the private sector, by cutting tax rates on everything, eliminating wasteful govt spending and regulation, and getting greedy, inefficient govt out of the private sector.
Then we can afford what we want and need. Creating govt dependency and mandates is not the answer to rebuilding the crashing Obama economy.

Thanks for sharing your delusions with us.

The liberals will have their way one way or another. They have waited years for circumstances to be just right, for the stars to align and the american people to be distracted by the extremely bad economy and high unemployment. They control the legislative and executive branches of government. We the people can and will be ignored and wake up to an America we don’t know.

Thanks for admitting that my truth made your head explode. You cling to your ignorance, but that won’t save you.

Your buddy Van Jones admitted that the environmentalist movement is a Trojan Horse for communism. Educate yourself.

BTW, I never addressed you as “idiot”; you spoke falsely, and I calmly corrected you, point by point. I can understand that you don’t like that, but your feelings are none of my business, so don’t bother “sharing”. I’m not interested. If you have any facts, I’m sure you would give them, but you don’t. All you have is the same old recycled leftie talking points. The usual Marxist class envy screed.

When you lie, I smack you with the truth. You posted false information, and I did you the favor of correcting you with the right information. You’re welcome.

The Bush tax rate cuts were across the board for all taxpayers, liar.

It was the Dem affirmative action home loan mandate program that caused the recession, not the tax rate reductions that produced economic growth.

The only thing “different” about our economic structure is the metastatic growth of wasteful govt spending.
Cut spending and reduce tax rates, and no more recession; instead, we get economic growth.
Economics is not a matter of opinion.
You and your insane leftie buddies are just flat out wrong.
If govt control of the economy worked, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.
Too bad you lefties can’t learn from experience.

So to get that straight, government health care couldn’t pass in 1994 because Americans weren’t scared enough to be convinced that they’re victims and need to be made dependent on the government. But today, with a nasty recession in evidence to take advantage of (can’t let a good crisis go to waste!), it’s much easier convincing Americans that they’re victims and need to be rescued.

How are those unemployed people supposed to afford health care when they are unemployed, you idiot?

Only Rob could turn a straight line into a pretzel and confuse his actions.

Contrary to delusional leftie beliefs, govt produces nothing, and the DOE produces no energy; it simply feeds upon the productivity of our domestic energy industry. The “green energy” nonsense requires massive and wasteful taxpayer subsidies to even function.
The only reason we can afford such boondoggles is because the real energy industry is so productive and profitable.
With the Dems trying to kill that industry, the gravy train will soon stop running.

correction: I meant to say under every president including Clinton, not Carter.

First of all, woefully deceptive headline. When you have a headline like “Democrats: It’s Easier To Victimize People With Government Health Care When They’re Scared” it implies that the person or group before the colon actually said the words after the colon. They didn’t. That’s your interpretation of what was actually said.

But just addressing your point, your term “government health care” is vague and misleading. A public health insurance option is just that, an option. Option, as in one choice among many, AND it only applies to people who don’t already have health insurance.

And I have news for you, it’s not the government that’s convincing people they are victims of a bad health care system, it’s the bad health care system convincing them of that.

ah, and on this one I stopped reading at the word “idiot” — didn’t figure I needed to get to the point where you started screaming “commie” and/or “Nazi”

ah, and we can add “liar” to your list of witty rhetorical tools.

1. In these surveys how many of the people were on Medicare or Medicaid, or in the VA system? (all together they account for about 25% of health care, if I remember right) And of course all the usual caveats: how was the question phrased, could they have been commenting more on the quality of care they receive from doctors and nurses and less on their experiences with the private health insurers, how many people who are ‘satisfied’ have ever had a need to use their health care much yet, etc

2. Even if I accept that as an accurate measure, people in Canada and England rate their health care just as high or higher. Since they are able to insure everyone, and spend far less than we do (per capita) then by that logic (effectiveness of a system based solely on survey results) they have far better systems.

3. Even if we had the best system in the world right now, that wouldn’t matter for one simple reason- because the system is unsustainable. Health insurance spending is going up at a far greater pace than inflation, wages have been stagnant for years because employers are having to pay more in insurance premiums, Medicare is hurtling toward bankruptcy (because unlike insurance premiums – which have been able to double in the last ten years – Medicare hasn’t been able to double the taxes that support it)

Bottom line for me – if other countries are able to insure EVERYONE, have at least comparable – if not better – health outcomes, and do it all for much less than we do (often they spend half as much as we do) than why would we possibly be defending our current system?

lol “central planning” — really, you are still running from the commies?

Obama is on record as saying that he thought single payer made the most sense, but also on the record as saying it’s not achievable.

And I love how you say “statistics” say there’s no crisis at all by citing ONE statistic. Even Republicans in Congress admit that the current system is unsustainable (health care spending rapidly outstripping our ability to pay, tens of millions uninsured (and tens of thousands dead every year due to lackl of insurance) etc etc etc If you want to debate the best way to reform the system, great. But if you want to argue there’s no problem with the system you better marshal a lot more than one lonely number.

As for “never let a crisis got to waste” that can be viewed as ominous or wise. If there’s a financial crisis then obviously that’s the opportunity to fix what is wrong. If there’s a health care crisis that’s obviously a time to fix what’s wrong. If we would have gotten serious about energy policy in the 1970s/1980s (the last energy crisis) we wouldn’t be where we are now. But we let that crisis go to waste and for the next 20 years did nothing about energy independence, conservation, etc etc