Democrats Introduce Legislation To Make Paid Vacation Mandatory

Right. Because nothing says “put the country back to work” like mandated vacation benefits.

Rep. Alan Grayson was standing in the middle of Disney World when it hit him: What Americans really need is a week of paid vacation.
So on Thursday, the Florida Democrat will introduce the Paid Vacation Act — legislation that would be the first to make paid vacation time a requirement under federal law.
The bill would require companies with more than 100 employees to offer a week of paid vacation for both full-time and part-time employees after they’ve put in a year on the job. Three years after the effective date of the law, those same companies would be required to provide two weeks of paid vacation, and companies with 50 or more employees would have to provide one week.

I’d be willing to bet that most companies of those sizes already have paid vacation benefits. And nobody is forcing anyone to work at the ones that don’t.
But the real problem here is that this creates yet more burden for business owners. Not only would they have to pay these benefits, but there are also going to be compliance costs as the federal government will no doubt want verification that employees are, in fact, getting their government mandated vacation benefits. Even the part timers.
Sure this might mean more people get paid vacation time, but it’s also going to mean more overhead for businesses and ultimately either higher prices or less employment.

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  • http://Array ellinas

    Vacation is good for the morale of the workers, and good for the companies because the worker returns to work rejuvenated.
    It is a win win proposition.

  • ellinas

    Real American values require the pay and working conditions be made by agreement between the employer and the employed. robert108 on May 21, 2009 at 06:00 pm

    Your premise is faulty! No such animal for the majority of the workers.
    For example, go to Safeway, Sears,etc. for a cashier or a broom pusher job and attempt to negotiate salary, benefits and working conditions. They dictate the conditions.
    Nothing for the worker to negotiate.

  • http://www.stay247.com/hotels/australia/brisbane-hotels.html Brisbane hotels

    Isn’t it the law states that employees are allowed for vacation leave benefits. I think sick leave benefits must also be given.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Do you know what “mandate” means? It means the people don’t get to vote. Duh. When products are kept off the shelves, the people can’t vote with their dollars, either.

    Democrats won a mandate this past election. They represent the people for now. Shrug.

  • ellinas

    What was the chance the Ellinas didn’t understand what was involved in the term “paid vacation?”
    The Whistler on May 21, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Fat chance.
    Do you get paid vacations? Or have you been working all your life non stop.
    Vacations are good for the workers, buissiness and the economy.

  • Halatbis

    What a great idea! I can’t believe that it took all these years for someone to think of it. And. I will be the “Vacation Checker” for the government. Compliance will be the watchword.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Govt mandates raise the cost of doing business, and remove choices from the individual citizens who create all the wealth of this country.
    Obama’s fascist takeover continues…

    Citizens are allowed to redress the government about grievances. Let the people vote on it.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I’m in favor of mandatory federal vacations for members of congress and their staffs. I say 48 weeks would be about right.

  • robert108

    A “real American value”: Work till you drop.
    No sick leave, no vacation.

    You just made that up, and are trying to lie about it. Real American values require the pay and working conditions be made by agreement between the employer and the employed. A totalitarian mandate from the President is not an American value.

    Get it, lgf?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    they’re already on a permanent vacation, paid for by the achievers.

    I disagree, I think they are out there working as hard as they can to screw things up as badly as they can.

    They don’t work for us, they work for their own benefit,

    I agree with that 100%.

  • duh moments

    I believe socialism in this country is now spelled with a VERY large Capital S. Could someone just quarantine that area of D.C. where three arms of this puppet government conduct comedy club? Have it so there is no info coming in or out. Just shut it down. That would be perfect.

  • http://machineoverlords.blogspot.com/ Evil Otto

    Sadly, this pinhead, Grayson, is my congressman.

  • http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/ pino

    I treasured my paid vacations.

    That’s cool. You are entitled to ‘em. IF you have enough value to your employer to make that part of your compensation.

  • JFH

    Vacation is good for the morale of the workers, and good for the companies because the worker returns to work rejuvenated.

    Sure, then the market will provide it. Vacation is a BENEFIT, not a right. I negotiated my vacation time, just like my salary.

  • robert108

    Americans cringe in horror at the thought of forced paid four and six week vacations with added vacation bonus money.

    In a free country, it’s not the job of a representative govt to “force” anything on us. Thought you knew that.
    That’s fascism.

  • http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/ pino

    Anything to prove that claim?

    bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ebs2.pdf

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Damn, I agree with Kenny on this. Maybe Kenny is one of the few SAB conservatives that actually has a job.

    Im actually horribly opposed. The idea that the government can dictate business is horrible. But I’m mocking Robert, and his anti-freedom, anti-business stances.

    You may wish to think twice before aligning with me.

  • ellinas

    Democrats aren’t big on the freedom thing.

    likwidshoe on May 21, 2009 at 06:09 pm

    Which freedom would that be lik?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Democrats aren’t big on the freedom thing.

  • robert108

    Govt mandates raise the cost of doing business, and remove choices from the individual citizens who create all the wealth of this country.
    Obama’s fascist takeover continues…

  • robert108

    Democrats won a mandate this past election. They represent the people for now. Shrug.

    Irrelevant. Besides, making paid vacation mandatory is something different from winning an election, which is often called a “mandate” when it’s nothing of the kind. Fifty-six million Americans didn’t vote Dem. Hardly a real mandate.
    Having trouble keeping on the subject?
    I was speaking about the very real effect of govt economic mandates, and you seemed to need to change the subject.
    Why do you do that?

  • ellinas

    pino! Work till you drop. Never ever take a vaction! That is your right.
    But I treasure my leasure time. I treasured my paid vacations. Now that I retired a the ripe old age of fifty I treasure this paid vacation even more. And I want all workers to be able to have paid vacations.

  • http://www.kloognome.com/ Rob Crawford

    Last time I was standing in the middle of Disney World, I was wondering why half those people wouldn’t go home and let me enjoy the park. But, oddly, it never occurred to me to force people to bow to my preferences.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    In our free country, no one has the totalitarian power to make any determination about whether or not something is “more useful to the public”, or if “public value” is being increased. We leave that up to free people making free choices.
    I guess you’re a totalitarian, after all.

    That’s your quote moron.

    You used that quote to defend government destroying private property rights.

    So, it’s, as always, what Robert likes should be defended, and what he doesn’t like shouldn’t. When your own quotes are dragged out to mock you, you claim it’s totalitarian. As you pointed out:

    Commercial property is subject to more zoning and use regulations than private residential property. Part of the value of a piece of commercial property is it’s usefulness to the public, and the business owner profits from that usefulness. It’s not the same as residential private property. You can look it up.

    It’s a “sensible legislation” what’s your problem?

    You lie; petitioning the govt for redress of grievances is about voting; it’s not your bullshit “indirect voting”, especially if the representative didn’t inform the voters of what he intended to do. Obama deceived those who voted for him, and is savaging the rights of those who didn’t vote for him, and who want real American values. Totalitarian govt is not an American value.

    Obama promised higher pay and more goodies. He won the most votes. And he is now delivering. Like it or not, Obama was clear what he’d do.

    And you have defended such actions in the past, when they pass your fancy. You have no logical ground to condemn this.

  • Boobalah

    Did anyone see the Office where Michael Scott introduced “movie Mondays?” That’s what this, and ellina’s comment, reminds me of. Workers will be more productive when they return….because they have to in order to make up for the time spent watching the movie. lol, it’s just silliness.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Irrelevant. Besides, making paid vacation mandatory is something different from winning an election, which is often called a “mandate” when it’s nothing of the kind. Fifty-six million Americans didn’t vote Dem. Hardly a real mandate.

    BTW, this is known as indirect voting. This is among the issues Obama and his ilk promised and that people voted for. That’s an indirect vote, or, as you like to say “petitioning the government for redress” in this case via the ballot box.

    Sorry, this is subject to sensible regulation, ultimately by popular vote, either directly or indirectly.

  • http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/ pino

    It is a win win proposition.

    The market competition is brutal. If what you say is true, businesses would have keyed in on this and implemented it. In fact, they have, for about 75% of the working population.

    All THIHS is going to do is raise the cost of buying workers. And, like anything, when you raise the price of it, people buy less of it.

    In other words, we will have higher unemployment. Just like when we raise the minimum wage.

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    Further proof that the gummint has no clue whatsoever about running business.

    Minimum wage. Mandatory vacations. Out-the-wazoo taxes.

    Every burden gummint places on private business comes at a cost… to The People.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    I was speaking about the very real effect of govt economic mandates, and you seemed to need to change the subject.

    And I’m telling you this is what the people want. Obama and his ilk promised higher wages, more goodies, free health care, etc. And that’s what they’re providing. It’s the voice of the people. To tweak a few earlier statements from you:

    All Americans have the right to petition their govt to redress grievances. It’s in the Constitution. No matter how many times you lie about it, this is the workers taking back their freedom and liberty from the tyrannical business owners.

    Sorry, this is subject to sensible regulation, ultimately by popular vote, either directly or indirectly.

    As you pointed out, Robert, the people have spoken, indirectly. It’s sensible regulation.

    Also:

    Commercial property is subject to more zoning and use regulations than private residential property. Part of the value of a piece of commercial property is it’s usefulness to the public, and the business owner profits from that usefulness. It’s not the same as residential private property. You can look it up.

    If the business is more useful to the public with vacation, then I suppose that just makes it sensible use regulation. And increases the public value too!

  • robert108

    More irrelevancies from you. Can’t you stay on the subject? You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but Obama wants to mandate this; it won’t be up to the people, either way. It’s an increase in overhead cost to all businesses, and that’s bad for the economy. In a free country, when a worker chooses to work for an employer, he or she chooses what the employer offers. It’s not the job of the President, in a free country, to set any working conditions. If you want paid vacations, acquire the skill and value, then choose an employer who provides what you want.
    Anything else is totalitarianism.

    BTW, when you cut and paste what you claim to be my words, be honest, and give the day and date, so I can be sure you aren’t being deceptive. It’s just a matter of honesty and integrity. Also, I can smack you if you take something out of context to distort what I meant.

    If the business is more useful to the public with vacation, then I suppose that just makes it sensible use regulation. And increases the public value too!

    In our free country, no one has the totalitarian power to make any determination about whether or not something is “more useful to the public”, or if “public value” is being increased. We leave that up to free people making free choices.

    I guess you’re a totalitarian, after all.

  • http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/ pino

    If the business is more useful to the public with vacation

    About 75% of business is better off with paid vacations. Strangely, that’s about what % of the working population get paid vacations.

  • robert108

    Let the people vote on it.

    Do you know what “mandate” means? It means the people don’t get to vote. Duh. When products are kept off the shelves, the people can’t vote with their dollars, either.

  • robert108

    That’s an indirect vote, or, as you like to say “petitioning the government for redress” in this case via the ballot box.

    You lie; petitioning the govt for redress of grievances is about voting; it’s not your bullshit “indirect voting”, especially if the representative didn’t inform the voters of what he intended to do. Obama deceived those who voted for him, and is savaging the rights of those who didn’t vote for him, and who want real American values. Totalitarian govt is not an American value.

    About 75% of business is better off with paid vacations.

    Anything to prove that claim? How do you define “better off”?
    Bottom line, mandatory anything by Presidential decree is bad for business.
    Your mistaken ex post facto “reasoning” is in error.

  • robert108

    TW: The problem is, they’re already on a permanent vacation, paid for by the achievers. They don’t work for us, they work for their own benefit, and we have to pay them. What’s up with that?

  • http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/ pino

    It means the people don’t get to vote.

    Interesting watching you defend when the people get to vote and then when they don’t.

  • ellinas

    What was the chance that Ellinas would be in favor of forcing employers to pay people to not work?
    The Whistler on May 21, 2009 at 11:53 am

    That would be zero, zilch nada.

  • ellinas

    …..and who want real American values.
    robert108 on May 21, 2009 at 05:22 pm

    A “real American value”: Work till you drop.
    No sick leave, no vacation.
    Wow! You are something. Something stupid.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    What was the chance the Ellinas didn’t understand what was involved in the term “paid vacation?”

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    What was the chance that Ellinas would be in favor of forcing employers to pay people to not work?

  • http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/ pino

    Your premise is faulty! No such animal for the majority of the workers.

    Your premise is faulty.

    For example, if the offerred rate doesn’t get the quality of employee that they want they will have to adjust the rate of pay.

    See McDonald employees who make more than the legally required amount.

  • http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml Angry Vertebrate

    Damn, I agree with Kenny on this. Maybe Kenny is one of the few SAB conservatives that actually has a job.

  • http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/ pino

    Work till you drop.

    And yes, THAT is the American Way. Work for what you want. We have the freedom to work as hard as we want for the fruits of our labor.

    This is an awesome feature; unlike France. France, where they are actually trying to reduce the work week for employees to 30 hours a week. Imagine. How stupid is that?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I think the government should mandate a $100/hour minimum wage too. After all, the minimum wage makes us all more prosperous right?

  • WOOFX

    Americans cringe in horror at the thought of forced paid four and six week vacations with added vacation bonus money.

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