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Friday, June 29, 2007

Democrats: Families Of Four Who Make $82,000 A Year Are Now “Poor”

The Democrats, already beginning their push towards government-run health care, are starting with the SCHIP program (initially created to get health care for the children of poor families) by tripling it’s size and scope so that it covers people who, frankly, don’t really need it.

WASHINGTON—There is no need to wait until a new president is elected next year for the great national health care debate. It is underway right now, disguised as a routine extension of an immensely popular, non-controversial 10-year-old program of providing coverage to poor children. In fact, this proposal is the thin edge of the wedge to achieve the longtime goal of government-supplied universal health insurance and the suffocation of the private system.

The Senate Finance Committee was scheduled to mark up this portentous legislation expanding the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) today [Thursday], but disagreement over the size of the program and how to pay for it forced postponement. Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller’s version would triple SCHIP’s current five-year cost of $25 billion to a level of $75 billion. That would grant federal largesse to more than just poor “kids” (as politicians endearingly call children). An estimated 71 percent of all American children in families of four making as much as $82,000 a year would become eligible, with states also continuing present coverage of adults under SCHIP.

This is how liberals herd people onto the victimhood plantation.  They tell them that they’re poor and can’t afford health care on their own, then they vote other people’s money out of the nation’s treasury to pay for these people’s entitlements and make them dependent on the government and finally they use that dependence to control them.

Just like how Democrats get votes from farmers by turning them into victims and then pandering to them with subsidies.  Same with minority groups like blacks too.  “You can’t get ahead unless we give you affirmative action and all sorts of special treatment, so vote for us!” It isn’t about empowerment, or making people better so that they can stand on their own two feet, it’s about subjugation.

And trust me, that’s what socialized medicine will be (in addition to terribly expensive, inefficient and ineffective).  Subjugation.  Once we’re all hooked on government health care, and once private health care providers are so marginalized by an inability to compete with the government (which has no need to turn a profit) that only the rich can afford them, our dependence on politicians for health care will be used to change how we live.

The anti-smoking folks will be demanding that smokers pay more in taxes.  The anti-fat people will be demanding that regulations against unhealthy foods be passed for the sake of saving tax dollars.  And all this while you wait six months for knee surgery like they do in Canada and Great Britain.

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The ultimate tyranny is government control over its citizens life and death.  That is what will result with the health system under control of the government.


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docdave on June 29, 2007 at 05:18 pm
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Democrats: Families Of Four Who Make $82,000 A Year Are Now “Poor”

This might not be a bad thing! By the time we add the “middle class” to this, all the “rich” the Democrats’ll have left to tax is Theresa Heinz (and her husband what’s-his-name),Teddie Kennedy, and Bill Gates!



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Proof on June 29, 2007 at 07:29 pm

I wonder what percent of the people now newly covered by SCHIP have High Definition or flat screen plasma TVs?  How many have two, or more cars, a kid (or two) getting ready to go to summer camp, or a riding mower?

I’m not suggesting that having any of these is wrong, or irresponsible.  But having them while allowing your fellow taxpayers (who cannot afford it) to pick up the tab for your kid’s health insurance premium so you CAN have these things IS irresponsible.

If they are your kids, the responsibility for their health and welfare is yours, not your neighbors’… regardless of which village you live in.

If we can’t manage to afford the entitlement programs we already have, such as Social Security and MediCare, why would we rationally take on any more entitlement liabilities?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on June 29, 2007 at 07:54 pm
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Complete misinformation as always.  Yes, the bill would allow for families with up to 82,000 dollars to get SCHIP coverage for their children, but only after filling out an exception application and submitting it to the federal administration (that’s right - your buddy Bush’s domain) for approval.  So, in other words, if some of those families out there making 82,000 dollars ended up receiving SCHIP benefits you can blame your administration, not the legislation itself or the legislators (which, of course, included many of your republican friends) that passed it.

Instead of spitting back word for word Bill O and Rush’s rhetoric why don’t you try actually reading the bill, or is that too much to ask?  Go ahead, call me a troll - but prove to me that the bill says anything otherwise first.

chucklinginca on October 12, 2007 at 10:37 am

Chuckles,

I suggest you see a chiropractor.  That chip on your shoulder has you listing dangerously to the left.

This will probably be difficult for you to comprehend, but unlike those of you on the Derangement-afflicted left, conservatives actually look at issues and policy alternatives on their respective merits, and our decisions are not based on the endorsement or support of this or that official or celebrity.  Of course, this requires a good deal more individual intelligence and cognitive reasoning power, but we are fully capable of those intellectual efforts, which is why we are conservatives to begin with, rather than mind-numbed leftist dullards.

And a very small portion of that extra brain power we’ve been endowed with and developed so assiduously tells us that what is important isn’t what would happen for the remaining 15 months of the Bush administration, but over the years and years thereafter.

The problem with the $82,000 income limitation for the SCHIPS program is that it discourages those who can afford to do so from utilizing free market solutions and encourages them to rely on government instead.

As I said above, much of this, as simple as it is to conservatives, is probably beyond your comprehension anyway.  That would certainly explain why your BDS affliction is so much more prominent than any rational mental processes.  But if you’ll focus your limited attention span on the Constitution itself, you might perceive that the poi9nt of that document is to limit government intrusion, not encourage its expansion.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 12, 2007 at 11:18 am

chuck: How about the part where “children” are defined as being up to the age of 25?

The real problem with SCHIP is that it’s just another leftie welfare pyramid scheme.  Its cost will spiral out of sight very quickly, with no increase in the quality of life for anyone but the political class.


If life doesn’t begin at conception, why do they call it birth control?

robert108 on October 12, 2007 at 11:34 am
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