Democrat Wants To Give Americans Access To Cheaper Prescription Drugs In Canada

I see that Byron Dorgan is on a kick again to allow Americans to buy prescription drugs in Canada at lower Canadian prices. Now, on its face, this may sound like a good idea. Even a solidly conservative idea, given the free trade ramifications of it. Why would people like myself, who feel that the inclusion of cheaper foreign goods in our markets is good for our overall economy, oppose the opening of Canadian pharmaceutical markets to American buyers?
Well, the fact that Byron Dorgan is in favor of this should give you a clue (amazing how Byron wants free trade on Canadian prescription drugs but can’t stand the idea of free trade involving Mexican truckers, but I digress). The Canadian pharmaceutical market isn’t a free market.
Canada has a nationalized health care system. The bureaucrats who run that system have “negotiated” (in the coercive, “do it or we’ll make you do it” manner of government) caps on prescription drug prices. Meaning that drugs aren’t cheaper in Canada because drug companies are being unfair to Americans. Drugs are cheaper in Canada because the Canadian government is being unfair to drug companies.
And this brings us to one of the big lies in the debate over health care in America. We’re often told how expensive our health care system is, and now much cheaper it could be if nationalized, but one of the reasons why our health care system is so expensive is because our nation acts as a safety valve for all the countries with nationalized health care.
Take the prescription drugs, for instance. Canada has mandated low prices. But the drug companies, that invest decades and tens of billions of dollars into bringing even one drug to market, must recoup their money somehow. So Americans, who live in a free market system, pay not only for their share of the drug industry’s overhead but Canada’s share as well. And Great Britain’s share. And Australia’s share. And Japan’s share. And on and on.
It also works that way with health care in general. When Canadians need to flee the rationing and delays in their nationalized health care system, where do they go? America. When Mexicans need to flee the near-collapse of their national health care system where do they go? America. Same, again, with Great Britain and Australia and on and on.
We are the international release valve for all the foolish nationalized health care systems in the world. At least, for the people who can afford that we be their release valve. Those who can’t afford to opt-out in Canada or Great Britain are stuck with what the government decides they should get.
But what all of this does is drive up the cost for health care here in America. It creates artificial demand, and artificial shortages, that wouldn’t exist otherwise.
And imagine what would happen if we went the same route as a Canada or Great Britain. The people in those countries had better hope we don’t.

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  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    If you’re using that picture for a caption contest, my entry would be:

    “I can see your entire scalp from this angle.”

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Can I buy from whoever I like up in Canada rather than being forced to buy from a mom and pop shop?

    Actually I’d never buy my drugs from Walmart and would continue where I’m at. However I do think I should get the choice.

  • http://pocketjacksblog.blogspot.com/ Jay W.

    Buzz said:

    Though you defend again and again Walmart’s practices as free trade. When Walmart “negotiates” with foreign company who copy patented drugs where is the reinvestment for the original manufacture of the stolen drugs?

    Wal-Mart is practicing free trade. The problem lies with the patent-life of drugs. This article gives a good look at the wars that go on over this stuff. Long story short, it’s a race for the creator of the drug to try and make as much money as it can before the generics manufacturers swoop in.

    Oh, and Rob: as always, thanks for the link.

  • Bat One

    Whistler,

    That guy next to Byron looks like he’s trying to kick start his brain with his finger.

  • Buzz

    From the complex global manufacturing and distribution network, a few basic facts emerge:

    · * most Americans have no idea that the drugs they are buying at Wal-Mart are produced in India, made by companies that are copying another company’s products.

    · * although India has the highest the number of U.S. FDA-approved facilities (84) outside the U.S., no one knows how reliable the quality of Indian drugs really are. The World Health Organization (WHO) has warned that the global counterfeit and substandard drug trade is a $35-billion business, with little risk of prosecution.

    · * when consumers buy their drugs at Wal-Mart, the retailer uses that money to buy more products from India, in the same way they buy more clothing or toys from China. Once again, the U.S. takes what other countries make. Wal-Mart’s sourcing of drugs from foreign countries exacerbates our unprecedented foreign trade imbalance.

    Ironically, the same federal government that hassled senior citizens over importing small quantities of drugs from Canada, now seems content to allow Wal-Mart to import billions of dollars annually worth of Indian drugs to enhance the retailer’s bottom line. The Indian drug companies have found a generic drug niche to fill, and they are using their poorly-paid workforce and less than stringent regulatory requirements to satisfy America’s growing need for pills. Unlike clothing or toys—there is no label on the pill that says “made in India.”

    You say you want to protect drug company’s, so they can continue there R&D. Though you defend again and again Walmart’s practices as free trade. When Walmart “negotiates” with foreign company who copy patented drugs where is the reinvestment for the original manufacture of the stolen drugs?

    It would be far better for the drug company’s to negotiate with the US government than to let parasitic companys like Walmart steal the revenue from the original manufacture. Not to mention providing Americans with sub-standard drugs all for chance to make a buck.

    Just another avenue for Walmart to drain the wealth of this nation through unfair business practices. You are blind to the true nature of Walmart, and the consequences of there actions.

  • robert108

    When lefties have no facts, they attack the source. This crap from “Buzz” is just more leftie attack on WalMart, because WalMart refutes all the union bullshit with its success.
    Looks like the Dems are out to rig another market for social engineering purposes. You know what that did to the real estate finance market.

  • Buzz

    you should have no problem with a similar government edict limiting how much labor can charge for it’s efforts.

    I do, no more than 400,000 including perks and bonuses.

    But of course that has nothing to do with the thread, which you all don’t want to discuss being I am correct in my pointing out that manipulation of drug prices and the copying of patented drugs is already taking place. That drug company’s are in fact now losing revenue that they need to further there R&D. All by your friendly neighborhood Walmart. Rob’s lack of research, and your inability to point out a flaw in my blog, only proves my point. Thank you,, I’m done with this thread.

  • Bat One

    Buzz,

    It occurs to me, if you are going to endorse the action of Canada’s government in arbitrarily dictating the price a company can charge for it’s products, then you should have no problem with a similar government edict limiting how much labor can charge for it’s efforts. A wage cap, rather than a floor, setting not a minimum wage to be paid, but a maximum beyond which labor will not be paid.

  • jimmypop

    So Americans, who live in a free market system, pay not only for their share of the drug industry’s overhead but Canada’s share as well. And Great Britain’s share. And Australia’s share. And Japan’s share. And on and on.

    and this is different from everything else how? i dont know if youve noticed, but as the usa goes, so goes the world.

  • robert108

    I ignore your lies, and guide people to the truth.
    You keep trying to make it personal, “Buzz”, because all you have is superstition, with no facts.

  • Buzz

    i dont know if youve noticed, but as the usa goes, so goes the world.

    And if not, we’ll send in the planes and f**k you up!

  • Buzz

    Ignore and deflect 108, I would expect no less from you.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    If we went to socialist medicine, we’d kill the planetary biomed industry as there is NO other free open economy left beyond ours on the same stage. Life expectancies would drop, the future of cybernetics and age extension would disappear, and we’d be putting this idiotic idea of just being grateful for scraps off the table to the medical world.

    Instead of a vibrant prosperous world, they prefer a world of tightfisted control for the sake of their precious egos. And sacrifice our lives to it.

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