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Sunday, August 28, 2005

Deeds That Echo In History

Mr. Snitch:

Accused of changing the rationale for 'his' war, and hounded for mismanaging it. Derided as an uninspiring public speaker. Belittled as an idiot. Blamed for dividing the nation. Charged with incompetence in his administration. Accused of trampling on the Constitution. Engaged in censorship and manipulation of the press. Mockingly compared with lower primates. Pressured for a key Cabinet Advisor's resignation.

Of course, we're referring to Lincoln.


Read the whole thing.

History exonerated Lincoln from the aspersions cast by his critics. I firmly believe that history, too, will exonerate President Bush from the same.

Iraq will be a democratic and stabilizing force in the middle east, and will serve as the foothold in that region of oppression for the spread of freedom. President Bush will be the one, rightfully, credited with that success.

Its easy to be negative and condescending toward the mission in Iraq now, but when judgment is passed on the actions of the Bush administration by tomorrow's historians I think the consensus will be that Bush did the right thing.

(via Protein Wisdom)

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Hm, ok, but one could select certain details of virtually any other president or leader and make similar comparisons.  When I was giving tours of Monticello, I learned very quickly that you could find something in his writings that would back up any claim you’d like to make. 

Iraq will be a democratic and stabilizing force in the middle east, and will serve as the foothold in that region of oppression for the spread of freedom. President Bush will be the one, rightfully, credited with that success.

Nothing would make me happier.

Its easy to be negative and condescending toward the mission in Iraq now

Why?

modern instances on August 28, 2005 at 02:09 pm
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Ehhh… I disagree a bit. Lincoln’s war was to hold the union together, which is a bit different from Iraq.

The whole point was that the criticism Bush recieves today nearly mirrors the criticism that Lincoln endured. The point was never to compare the wars.

likwidshoe on August 28, 2005 at 03:09 pm
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Ehhh… I disagree a bit.  Lincoln’s war was to hold the union together, which is a bit different from Iraq.  If it weren’t for the civil war we’d all be saying “Abraham Who?” I think Bush and Iraq will be remembered more like Johnson and Vietnam.  Not saying I agree or disagree with that, but I personally think that’s how he’ll be remembered.

Andrew on August 28, 2005 at 03:09 pm
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I think Bush and Iraq will be remembered more like Johnson and Vietnam.

You’re kidding, right?  The war that we disgracefully lost because we wouldn’t commit the forces necessary to win and Democrats pulled funding for?

Bush and the GOP congress will see this battle out til the end, no matter what the political cost, because they know it is the right thing to do for America.  If it succeeds, this battle in Iraq will go down in history as a KEY success in the War on Terrorism.  If Iraq fails to become a stable democracy, not because of our shortsighted pullout but because they are unable to govern themselves at this early stage, Bush will still be remembered as a man of vision who was optimistic and “fought the good fight”.  No one is ever remembered because they were a nay-sayer and pessimistic!

Will Bush be a Lincoln?  No, that’s not the point.  The point is that even the great Presidents are only realized long after they are out of office…

Sphagnum on August 28, 2005 at 03:09 pm
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He is painted as vain, unintelligent, and ineffectual, so clueless that on the day the Bastille was seized by revolutionaries, he wrote in his diary, “Rien,” “Nothing happened.”

Louis XVI
ended on the guillotine.
Vive la Republique

WOOF on August 28, 2005 at 05:09 pm
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You’re kidding, right?

No I’m not kidding.  I don’t think it will be exactly the same but I think it will be more comparable.  Whether we win or not (though I bet we will) isn’t the issue.  I don’t think the majority of future Americans will really care about the outcome of Iraq or see its significance (if of course it does produce significant results).  Even if we had won Vietnam, I still think people would look unfavorably upon it.  The majority of Americans don’t really have strong feelings (negative or positive) about Johnson and I think the same will come of Bush.  He won’t be looked upon as a hero (like Lincoln) or a crook (like Nixon); people simply won’t really care much about him.

The point is that even the great Presidents are only realized long after they are out of office…

I slightly disagree with you here.  What about presidents such as FDR?  Sure he had his critics (as all Presidents do), but he did achieve legendary status during his time.

Andrew on August 28, 2005 at 05:09 pm
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WOOF said, Louis XVI
ended on the guillotine.
Vive la Republique

Can anybody decipher this comment?

likwidshoe on August 28, 2005 at 06:08 pm
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WOOF said, Louis XVI ended on the guillotine. Vive la Republique

I think what WOOF is trying to say is that King Louis ended up dead and it is all BUSHITLER’S fault.

Remy Logan on August 28, 2005 at 07:08 pm
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The answer is always Carter /Clinton.

What do you have in your wallet?

WOOF on August 28, 2005 at 08:08 pm
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WOOF asks: What do you have in your wallet?

I have some money with pictures of dead Communists on it, and a coupon for a half-price tire rotation where my condom used to be. Did you have a point WOOF?

Seth Williams on August 28, 2005 at 08:09 pm
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It’s on his teenie tiny wee little microcephallic noggin, Seth.

Otherwise, not so much.

Mr. Bowen on August 29, 2005 at 02:08 pm
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WOOF said, The answer is always Carter /Clinton.

What do you have in your wallet?

Your comments just get more ridiculous as time goes on.

likwidshoe on August 29, 2005 at 07:09 pm
Avatar for Taking Back North Dakota: August 2005

[...] From Sayanythingblog.comAccused of changing the rationale for ‘his’ war, and hounded for mismanaging it. Derided as an uninspiring public speaker. Belittled as an idiot. Blamed for dividing the nation. Charged with incompetence in his administration. Accused of trampling on the Constitution. Engaged in censorship and manipulation of the press. Mockingly compared with lower primates. Pressured for a key Cabinet Advisor’s resignation.President Bush? No.President Regean? No.(drumroll...........)It was President Lincoln. [...]

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[...] Rob, with a little help from Mr. Snitch, at Say Anything has this piece of Lincoln history.  I guess Rush is right, the Left are still playing the same playbook. [...]

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