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Wednesday, February 16, 2005

Dean Calls For Apology

ALBANY, N.Y. - Howard Dean, the new chairman of the Democratic National Committee, called on the head of New York's Republican Party to apologize or resign Wednesday over remarks linking the Democrats to a civil rights lawyer convicted of aiding terrorists.

Dean called Stephen Minarik's comments offensive, and said, "The American people deserve better than this type of political character assassination."

On Monday, Minarik said that Dean's election shows that "the Democrats simply have refused to learn the lessons of the past two election cycles, and now they can be accurately called the party of Barbara Boxer, Lynne Stewart and Howard Dean."


Statements by Howard Dean in the last two weeks:

"How can Republicans get to talk about moral values when they don't have any?"

"You think the RNC could get this many people of color into a single room? Maybe if they got the hotel staff in there."

If you ask me both those statements are worse than the one made by Minarik, and given the fact that terrorist sympathizer Michael Moore was seated next to former President Jimmy Carter at the last DNC national convention I don't think Howard Dean has much room to speak on this issue.

The far left has taken up residency in the mainstream Democratic party. Howard Dean is a bomb thrower. If Democrats want Republicans to stop pointing these things out perhaps they should take a long, hard look in the mirror and figure out just why it is they're letting these people represent their political party.

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When I hear conservative Republicans, who often accuse Dems of being traitors, perverts and worse, offering my party advice on who should or should not be the DNC chairman--I have to laugh.

Let’s face facts; the extremist rightwing that is the GOP doesn’t have the Dems best interests at heart.

So when I hear Howard Dean being bemoaned by the wingnuts--I’m overjoyed.

I smell fear from the right.

And Dean has impressed me in his first 4 days; he’s not backing down against GOP thugs like Minarik.  All too often in the past, the Dems response to that kind of extremist garbage would have been a milquetoasty “Gosh, we don’t agree with that.”

Dean responded to Minarik’s crap with a good headslap.

Jadegold on February 16, 2005 at 03:02 pm
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Dean isn’t taking Republicans on, he’s charging at windmills.

And the right does have its wingnuts, its just that we don’t allow them to define our political movement.


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Rob on February 16, 2005 at 03:02 pm
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I am a conservative Republican and ironically Howard Dean’s appointment as DNC chairman made me cringe. This is going to make it much more difficult for the left to win elections on all levels of government. They’re already having trouble now, the last thing they needed was Howard Dean.

Policy in America should be the result of input from all sides and the result of what is best for all, not one single ideology. It is easy to hope for the absolute victory of all of your issues, but competition is one of the things that makes our government what it is.

I am not saying that Republicans will now win all elections in landslides, but Howard Dean was not the remedy for that ailing party. I fear that some of the good ideas that Democrats do have will not come to fruition because of the decreased success that I predict they will have thanks to this move to appoint Howard Dean the leader of their party. And that loss is a loss for all Americans on both the left and the right.

Joshua on February 16, 2005 at 03:03 pm
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It is time for a new opposition party. We were not setup as a 2 party system, our country was setup as a multi-party system, restricting ourselves to only 2 parties is no longer feasible. The electronic age has made this an untenable position. It is no longer necessary to drag all the divergent political veiws into only 2 parties. We are sufficiently educated and sufficiently literate to not have to turn over the governance of our nation to an elitist minority who does not have our best interest as their driving force. This is the battle we should all be gearing toward. The Democrats have taken their stand,against individual freedom and responsiblility. It is time to overrun them and finish them, as the enemy they are.

2Hotel9 on February 16, 2005 at 04:02 pm
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Dean isn’t taking Republicans on,

Let’s see; is Minarik a GOPer?

And the right does have its wingnuts, its just that we don’t allow them to define our political movement.

Baloney.  James Dobson. Jerry Falwell.  The list goes on and on.

Jadegold on February 16, 2005 at 04:02 pm
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Poor wittle Jadegold.  I sent the boys round to perform that cranial rectal removal procedure, but I guess they misread the address.  Ah well.  Let’s address what you are pleased to call your points, so that perhaps some activity might finally begin to occur in what you are pleased to call your mind.

Unlike Leftards, Republicans tend to call only specific Leftards on their treason, perversity, and worse.  You, on the other hand, display the typical Leftard tendency to smear the entire Right with the same brush.

Extremist right wing that is the GOP?  What color is the sky on your world?  The GOP is about as right wing as Senator Lieberman, who, last I checked, had a (D) in front of his name.  The extremist right wingers are in the Reform and Libertarian parties.  The GOP is actually pretty damn close to center, not that you’d know where that is, being a Leftard and all.

Very few of us are “bemoaning” (typical Leftard projection, the Right rages, howls with hysterical laughter, fumes, etc, but never bemoans, that’s wussy territory) Dean’s appointment.  Those of us that think a “loyal opposition” is important are a bit upset about Dean’s bomb throwing tendencies, the rest of the Right is simply howling with laughter when we aren’t stunned into silence by the immense jaw dropping stupidiocy of this latest Dimocrap blunder.  So you go right on being overjoyed.  I’m gonna have another scotch and light up another stogie.

You smell fear?  More projection, I see.  Quite aside from the undeniable fact that fear is the province of the Left, you betray your complete inability to comprehend reality.  Nobody on the right is afraid of Dean, the weanie boy that could only win one primary.  The only thing we fear is that we might have to have surgery to repair our ribcages damaged by all the uncontrollable laughter brought on by Leftard antics over the next 70 years.

“GOP thugs”?  More projection.  I don’t recall seeing stories of Democrat campaign offices vandalized, stormed by crowds bent on intimidation or fired upon by cowards in the night, or Democrat campaign vans having their tires slit.  The brownshirts are on the Left, and always have been.

Finally, what Dean did doesn’t even approach a headslap.  It was a pathetic whine from a pathetic head loser of a party of pathetic losers.  What I just did to you is a (virtual) headslap.

But I doubt you’ll get the difference.

Mr. Bowen on February 16, 2005 at 04:03 pm
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Last I looked, Limbaugh was more of a moderate than Dean.  But you wouldn’t know anything about a moderate political viewpoint, would you, Oliver?

Mr. Bowen on February 16, 2005 at 04:03 pm
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And Rush Limbaugh was invited to the White House…

Oliver on February 16, 2005 at 04:03 pm
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James and Jerry who?  Sounds like an ice cream company.  Can’t say I see any wingnuts actually influencing right thinking, although to a “mind” that thinks the GOP and Rush Limbaugh are extreme far right, I suppose the distinction might be missed.

Say Jadegold, there’s this place called reality.  You might try moving here, it’s really nice this time of year.

Mr. Bowen on February 16, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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As I stated here I wish the Democrat party was not run by the fringe socialist wing.  Bill was more of a moderate than the current leadership.

I’d like to have some ballance in the system.  I wish there were some stonger 3rd and 4th parties.  I dislike any of these guys feeling like they own the place.  It’s one of the reasons I think we should have the 17th amendment repealed. Folks like Teddy K would not have maintained power for life.  None of them would and there would be better balance in the Senate.

Seth Yantiss on February 16, 2005 at 08:03 pm
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Let’s see; is Minarik a GOPer?

Its amazing how you undertake to selectively quote a comment I made on the very same page.  Here’s what I said:

Dean isn’t taking Republicans on, he’s charging at windmills.

Did you get the Don Quixote reference?  I didn’t literally mean that Dean wasn’t taking on the GOP.  Obviously he is.


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Rob on February 17, 2005 at 05:03 am
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Instead of worrying about Howard Dean, perhaps the GOP should consider replacing their NY state GOP poohbah, Stephen Minarik.

After being gang-slapped by Dean and most media outlets for accusing the Dems of being the party of terrorists, Minarik tried to counter-counter-attack, with the usual results, displaying a huge photo for the press:

They claimed it showed Stewart, a civil-rights lawyer, pictured with Jesse Jackson, filmmaker Michael Moore, actor Danny Glover and two Democratic councilmembers.

The problem is, the woman in the picture isn’t Stewart — it’s Leslie Cagan, of United for Peace and Justice, which organized the rally. Cagan and Stewart bear a resemblance.

Jadegold on February 18, 2005 at 06:03 am
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Why does the Democrat Party have such a problem with the citizens voting for who they wish? As for Mr. Minarik, he used hyperbole to make a statement about the positions and policies of the Democrats. Why do you not have a problem with Robert Byrd,Diane Fienstien,Ted Kennedy,Barbra Boxer,J.Rockefeller,Maxine Waters,Patrick Kennedy, et al when they use hyperbole to condem Americans as greedy,lazy,rascist,evil, and jingoistic. DDUUHH!! Can you say double standard? Can you say America hating scumbags? Can you say selfserving,self aggrandizing, socialist demagogues? I thought you could!!!

2Hotel9 on February 18, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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