Dead Kennedy Hype Overboard?

Looking at that MSNBC box at the upper left corner of the page (pun intended!), I see a tiresome series of video blurbs about Senator Ted Kennedy. His “lasting impression on the Senate.” How he was the “Haunted Bearer of the Kennedy Torch.” The obligatory prattle about Camelot and Legacy, and the Kennedy women who stood by their men. Or how the fight for government controlled health care can possibly manage without him… this “Lion” of the Senate. There’s even a picture of an obviously dejected man in a wheelchair, wondering how he will “imagine life without Ted Kennedy.”
Considering all this media adulation, the over-the-top hyperbole, one might think that someone really, really important had died. Like maybe Michael Jackson?!

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  • http://Array DINO

    It must be rough for you guys. Your side hasn’t produced any great statesmen so you hate it when ours are honored.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    You haven’t earned any ability for fair debate.

    Whereas you, Wankertized, haven’t demonstrated any ability for fair or honest debate (or even adequate grammar)!

  • Mark

    Considering what you think is a “great statesman”…………….

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    History books are filled with praise for liberals like Kennedy. They are devoid of great conservatives.

    Only the ones Dino colors!

  • Bat One

    Great Statesman????????

    Now that IS funny!

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    He literally uses the word “your side” and “winning” when it comes to politics.

    Yes, literally, young dolt. What do you think elections are about? Do you ever even think before you type the nonsensical dreck you publish here?

    Sorry! That was a rhetorical question! Of course you don’t!

  • DINO

    It’s a shame your side hasn’t produced men of any substance or consequence. I suppose that those motivated solely by money and personal gain aren’t prone to doing anything very worthwhile for society.

    It’s probably due to inferior genetics that also cause them to be conservatives. In a way, conservatism is a handicap.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    BTW, young Wankertized: “your side” is two words! I know you have problems with numbers that large!

  • rog

    Yeah, what a statesman….drunken sexual assault…drunken driving resulting in death… hooray

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Remember Wellstone in MN?

    I was thinking along those lines, but Ted had a little more gravitas than Wellstone. I think the pomp and circumstance will be greater for Ted, but there will still be a lot of cheerleading from the MSM to “honor Teddy’s legacy” by renaming and passing their socialistic health care plan.

  • Neiman

    Mark is right, Dino fails to define what a great statesman is, what standard he uses. Probably it requires someone able to advance a liberal, humanistic, socialist agenda.

    Liberals have a strange view of statecraft. JFK was handsome, charming, made women swoon, and he went to Berlin and sympathized with the plight of those behind the Berlin Wall, held captive by the Communists. He said he was a Berliner at heart and he left without freeing one human being behind that Iron Curtain. Reagan was much older, no longer a movie star and he went to Berlin and seeing those in bondage said to Gorbachev, “tear down this wall!” He had a plan to bring it down and shortly therafter it came down and many tens of millions of people for the first time in their lives tasted liberty and had a chance at prosperity.

    Now Dino and his fellow travelers worship JFK and his compassionate words, even though they accomplished nothing. They hate Reagan, a greatr man that set people free by the force of his will! That is the difference, the standard of greatness for liberals is to sound compassionate, to feel the pain of others, even if their policies, as they most often do, leave people in worse shape than before. While they spit on deeds of non-;iberals that actually improve the lives of other human beings.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    But you know…..win at any cost…..right POOFIE?

    I never said “win at any cost”. You’re projecting again, delusional troll!

    Or is that merely one more thing you pulled out of your ass, Wankertized?

  • DINO

    History books are filled with praise for liberals like Kennedy. They are devoid of great conservatives.

    Conservatives don’t produce great statesmen. Their sense of selfishness stunts their ability to contribute to the greater good, stunted as well by the wishes of their constituency to preserve the status quo, no matter how detrimental to others.

    Conservatism is a disease of the mind and deficiency of the soul. A genetic malformation resulting in the inferiority of thought and intellect. That’s why those afflicted with the malady can’t even perceive that they have it.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Hey, Wankertized! Aren’t the guy that called me a liar for accurately reminding you of the question I asked you that you were ducking?

    Don’t think for a minute you have any credibility…period.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    The free lunch bunch didn’t learn anything from their Paul Wellstone fiasco.

  • Neiman

    History books are filled with praise for liberals like Kennedy. They are devoid of great conservatives.

    History books are written and published by LIBERALS. I am shocked they only say good things about liberals!

    Their sense of selfishness stunts their ability to contribute to the greater good, stunted as well by the wishes of their constituency to preserve the status quo, no matter how detrimental to others.

    Because you believe the greater good is to redistribute wealth and make everyone equally poor and miserable!

  • Bat One

    Actually, I have more than a grudging respect for the late President Kennedy. He ran on the promise to “get this country moving again.” And his first economic policy initiative was to cut tax rates to stimulate economic and employment growth.

    Kennedy was the first president since Calvin Coolidge to reduce tax rates, and as before (and since) those reduced rates of taxation caused an increase in economic growth and private sector employment.

    He certainly wasn’t much of a “statesman” and his foreign policy was far more fluff than substance. But his domestic economic policy was nearly two decades ahead of Art Laffer and the so-called “supply-siders.” And most importantly, it worked.

  • Neiman

    Bat One” My problem is the worship of JFK versus his actual accomplishments and the hatred of Reagan in light of his great accomplsihments.

  • Mark

    I fully expect his funeral will turn into a political rally, and a Repbulican bashing protest. Watch, it will. Democrats just can’t help themselves.

    Remember Wellstone in MN?

  • Hannitized

    Fox News is covering Ted’s death as much as anyone. Right new they are talking about the Kennedy life, Camelot and the influence Kennedy had over the Senate and his role as the lion of the Senate.

    CONS just can’t stand it when they aren’t the ones getting the adulation. Bush was practically cheered and mocked out of office.

    That is your legacy and Bush earned it. The Kennedy legacy earned what they are getting as well.

    So, enjoy the harsh reality fools.

  • Hannitized

    Actually, I have more than a grudging respect for the late President Kennedy. He ran on the promise to “get this country moving again.” And his first economic policy initiative was to cut tax rates to stimulate economic and employment growth.

    Hey, it was profitable to buy homes once upon a time in our economy as well. Didn’t work out so well for millions of Americans….did it.

    Things aren’t always the way they used to be. We used to have a controlled public school system full with well behaved children. That isn’t exactly the reality these days either.

    Anyone remember when farming was a reliable source of wealth for farmers?

    Shit changes old man, wake up and get with the times.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    So, enjoy the harsh reality fools.

    Too funny! If you are this bitter and harsh when you think your side is winning, that explains a lot of the Conservative Derangement Syndrome you obviously suffer from!

  • Bat One

    That is your legacy and Bush earned it. The Kennedy legacy earned what they are getting as well.

    H,

    You couldn’t write a more convoluted sentence if you tried. Have you considered an ESL course? You ought to!

    Shit changes old man…[sic]

    Some things do indeed change. Other things do not. Those of us with at least a modest level of intelligence can recognize the difference.

    Not to embarrass you again, but the laws of supply and demand, like the law of gravity, or the mathematical definition of pi, do not change. They are immutable.

    On the other hand, my former respect for your ability to put together a cogent, pertinent, well-reasoned argument has steadily declined over the past year to the point where it just ain’t worth measuring any more. Another year and the respect deficit will have reached truly Obama-like proportion.

    Real estate, commercial and residential, like farming, will once again become profitable for the shrewd investor. It’s important to understand however, that all those things you’ve pointed to as having changed for the worse, are directly attributable to the witless interference of government at the behest of self-righteous liberals who simply can’t abide the notion that individuals ought to be free to live their own lives, make their own decisions, and accept the responsibilities and the consequences of their own actions.

  • Hannitized

    Only Poofy could reveal the mind of a CON so well. He literally uses the word “your side” and “winning” when it comes to politics.

    Because it reveals their mindset. It’s a team sport to CONS, not an issues based system that delivers the balance between constituents requests and representative democracy.

    REVEALING.

    These guys are scary!!!

  • robert108

    Hey, it was profitable to buy homes once upon a time in our economy as well. Didn’t work out so well for millions of Americans….did it.

    It’s only “profitable” to buy things that are free from govt rigging. As we found out when the govt-created real estate bubble deflated, govt-rigged markets are bad for the economy.
    For thirty years, the govt tried to rig the home market for social engineering purposes, and then covered up the bad loans by having them bought up and guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie, but that bubble burst, because it wasn’t based on real value.
    BTW, moron; generally speaking, people buy homes to live in them and to raise their families in them, not because it’s “profitable”. House flipping was just another bad consequence of Dem market-rigging for social engineering purposes.

  • Hannitized

    Real estate, commercial and residential, like farming, will once again become profitable for the shrewd investor. It’s important to understand however, that all those things you’ve pointed to as having changed for the worse, are directly attributable to the witless interference of government at the behest of self-righteous liberals who simply can’t abide the notion that individuals ought to be free to live their own lives,

    Under such strict guidelines slavery flourished, women could not vote, child labor abuse occurred regularly, blacks were segregated, their were the rich elite ruling class and the poor working class.

    That is the utopia you wish to return to. Of course you only have others to blame for your responsibility and hand in the crippled economy.

    You have fooled no one and the election results have proven that.

  • Bat One

    More leftwing fluff… no discernible substance. I’ll give you this, kid, you are predictable.

  • Hannitized

    Bat, you are the fool that offered “the free-market system will cure all of our economic ills”, meme.

    Give me a break pal. I am surprised you didn’t simply say we need more freedom to solve our economic problems…..oh wait….you did.

    Give me a break old man. You got nothing.

  • Hannitized

    What do you think elections are about? Do you ever even think before you type the nonsensical dreck you publish here?

    HAHAHAHA! Elections are about winning? I thought elections were about electing representatives who balance out the wishes of the constituency and integrating that with a representative Democracy.

    But you know…..win at any cost…..right POOFIE?

  • Hannitized

    You mean like arguing not against what Obama’s bill states but what you think the secret agenda is HG??

    That sort of grasping at anything to argue complete farces?

    Reap what you sow son. Reap what you sow.

  • HG

    That is the utopia you wish to return to

    This level of ignorance is taxing. To have to go back and explaing the fallacy employed and why prevents any profitable discussion. These sick liberal bastards will grasp at anything they can twist to make an argument, even when it is a complete farce.

  • Bat One

    You got nothing.

    Wrong again! I don’t do make-believe like you do, kid, and I have no reason to try and fake it. I’ve got the experience, the knowledge and the wisdom to look at the past and see what has worked, and what has not. And the language skills to articulate those conclusions.

    Other than some adolescent and unimaginative name-calling, and a demonstrably failed ideology… along with your self-congratulatory fantasies… it is you who has nothing, kid. And looks like just about everyone here knows it.

  • robert108

    He literally uses the word “your side” and “winning” when it comes to politics.

    In the words of your own messiah, dumb little H:

    “I won.” – Barack Obama

  • Bat One

    This conversation started when I expressed my admiration for JFK’s economic policy.

    He ran on a promise to get the country “moving again” out of a mild recession. His approach was to cut tax rates. He did that. The country’s economy responded to the supply-side incentive of lower tax rates, and the economy started to grow again. And with it private sector employment.

    Now if you can demonstrate that any of those FACTS are incorrect, please do so.

    I also stated that every other time a president has reduced tax rates (Coolidge, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, GW Bush) the very same thing happened… the economy picked up and so did employment. Again, if you can disprove any of that, by all means feel free to do so.

    But if you can’t, then understand that I’m not much interested in your childish name-calling or your snide, ignorant disparagement of the value of personal freedom. That level of argument isn’t worthy of anyone’s attention, and certainly not mine.

    Put up or shut up,kid!

  • Neiman

    You mean like arguing not against what Obama’s bill states but what you think the secret agenda is HG??

    Considering the total lack of transparaency by the Congress and Obama Administration in this matter, all the people can do, the only avenue wherein they can protect their interests, is to look at the proposed legislation in the House, the past statements of the many politicians involved, the present dangers to government run social security and medicare; and the patterns of every socialist system in Europe and Canada and then come to certain conclusions about what appears to be the real intent of Congress and Obama.

    The thing is, the Democrats are afraid to be transparent, the Health Care Reform legislation must be rushed, it must have too many pages fo anyone to understand, it must be passed in the dark of night, because they and you know it cannot stand up to any reasonable scrutiny.

    Obama makes promises he cannot keep because he has offered no legislative program that demonstrates what he actually wants in health care reform and because he cannot control what Congress writes. So the people have risen up to demand full disclosure, to make sure their fears do not become reality, and yet you seem to hate, to react angrily the basic democratic principle of ‘we the people.”

    Your anger and attacks do not contribute to understanding or mutual education. If you have facts please present them, let us discuss them and perhaps you can pursuade us we are in error on certain points and perhaps you can be educated as well. Or, take any single fact presented here and show us why it is wrong by using opposing facts. But, I must say that passion without any facts is a waste of your time and energy!

    Accusations and derogatory personal comments only create anger!

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    With every day, Hanni shows himself as uncompromising and ridiculous as Dino, and unworthy of actual debate.

    Anyone who could (presumably with a straight face) claim that Laura Bush plotted to kill her boyfriend doesn’t have a shred of honesty in them.

  • Hannitized

    Wrong again! I don’t do make-believe like you do, kid, and I have no reason to try and fake it. I’ve got the experience, the knowledge and the wisdom to look at the past and see what has worked, and what has not. And the language skills to articulate those conclusions.

    We just need more FREEEEEEDOOOOMMMS. Right Bat.

    That’s your plea?

  • Hannitized

    Hey Kenny,

    Aren’t you the guy that defended Rob’s post titled “Obama removes 1200 Air Traffic Controllers from their job to Work on Cash For Clunkers”?????

    Don’t think for a minute you have any credibility or ability to compromise on any politically partisan issue.

    You also defended Poofies cyber stalking behavior.

    You haven’t earned any ability for fair debate.

  • HG

    You mean like arguing not against what Obama’s bill states but what you think the secret agenda is HG??

    See what I mean? I spend an entire thread documenting the very behavior and words of liberals, including our President’s on these liberal policies only to have their words and behavior completely ignored.

  • HG

    You mean like arguing not against what Obama’s bill states but what you think the secret agenda is HG??

    That sort of grasping at anything to argue complete farces?

    Reap what you sow son. Reap what you sow.

    Does this not look like the typical liberal tacit admission? “It amounts to you did it first, so there.”

    Pathetic.

  • pparets

    Hannity rants…

    Aren’t you the guy that defended Rob’s post titled “Obama removes 1200 Air Traffic Controllers from their job to Work on Cash For Clunkers”?????

    Yes… the one that clearly stated at the outset that…

    …essential safety personnel were not diverted from their duties.

  • HG

    Kenny, H pronounced it and that makes it fact, you now officially have no credibility since you defended what turned out to be originally an accurate headline before the story was updated. (see comment 101 on that thread).

    /sarcasm

  • Mickey

    At least old Ted can’t cause anymore problems.

  • robert108

    Here’s a revealing quote from Teddy:

    Some people see taxes and ask “Why?” I see things that have never been taxed and ask “Why not?”

    - Sen. Edward M. Kennedy

  • Onslaught

    In deference to his older brothers much more distinguished military career, Sen Edward M. Kennedy will be buried at sea.

  • Bat One

    Onslaught,

    Didn’t you have a picture of an Oldsmobile to use instead of that Cadillac?

  • Onslaught

    Well Bat, it’s really more about the delivery place than the “Deliverance”.

    (sounds of banjo)

  • Bat One

    Hey! We like banjo music here in Georgia.

  • Onslaught

    No Offense, besides you wouldn’t believe how hard it is to find a picture of a hearse with a coffin sticking out.

  • Bat One

    My favorite North Georgia Mountain/River guide company put out a great T-shirt that reads,

    Paddle Faster… I Hear Banjo Music

    Speaking of caskets, I’m not at all sure that the one in your picture would large enough for the late Senator. A tad deeper and about a foot wider should do.

  • Onslaught

    True, I came up with a good joke, but I’m not sure if it’s too soon to tell it, what do you think.

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