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Come on now...is this some kind of secret game...like find the black guy?

Oh yeah, it’s a big big tent.

Excuse me, you were saying?

Ahh, the race card.

Never gets old does it?

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Not when it is so apparent.

Excuse me, you were saying?

Rob, don’t question Bob’s “blackness.” He just wants hope and change and unity. The race card is all about unity.

Rbb, it was an msnbc camera.  Still want to play the race card?

RBB, there was one hispanic there....did you see the poster that said “Hispanics for McCain”??

Not sure he should have been using plural nouns though.

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Rbb, it was an msnbc camera.  Still want to play the race card?

I can’t, you just played it for yourself.

(BTW it was NBC cameras not MSNBC cameras, fox did the DNC )

Excuse me, you were saying?

No, I missed that H.
I will have to watch and enjoy that video again.

Excuse me, you were saying?

MSNBC.com catches crucial footage of dancing Republicans

Rbb, that is the title on the video link.  I just took it to mean it was msnbc, either way it was nbc.

I can’t, you just played it for yourself.

You play the race card and I call to your attention the source, and you say this.  Man you’re stupid.

Rbb, it was an msnbc camera.  Still want to play the race card?

I can’t, you just played it for yourself.

(BTW it was NBC cameras not MSNBC cameras, fox did the DNC )

Excuse me, you were saying?

H!!!

I saw him...Hispanics heart McCain!!

Juxtapose those images with the “true Americans” “real Americans” “Take back America” rhetorical spew offered by the gop speakers and get back to me.

Excuse me, you were saying?

Why is it some Republicans have no understanding of pretty much anything?

Notice Rob calls something the “race-card” when another person simply asks “why are there no minorities in the crowd”?

That is not the race card.  Statement’s like THIS....is the race card being played.

Powell is endorsing Obama because he is black,- Nieman

IMO, Powell has always been a RINO.  I’m sure he’s endorsing Obama for racial reasons. - Robert108

I hate to bring this up, but a substantial number of our fighting forces are in fact monority. That has to be factored into contribution patterns as well. - PParets

Saying...."hey, there are no brown people in a crowd is not the “race card”.

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H,
“That’s not what he said ya ign’rant wretch.”

Come on now...is this some kind of secret game...like find the black guy?

C’mon now H.  It was the first comment for cryin’ out loud.

I saw these dancers live.  It seems like the older people were the more oblivious they were to keeping a beat.

But, in observation of the two conventions I have these:
1. The women at the RNC by and large are better looking than the DNC women (not that I noticed you understand)
The number of Black and Hispanic as few as they are, many more than a decade ago
The very young and very old are there.  Seems like you have to be under 30 or over 60 to be a republican delegate.  Not many 40 somethings there.
What they lack in dance steps they make up in enthusiasm.

So, all in all a good show.  Few Elaine dances going on. Seinfeld for those in rio linda

Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this is their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

HG,

How is that the “race card”?  It was a poignant joke.

The Race Card:

The phrase is commonly used in two contexts. In the first, and more common context, it alleges that someone has deliberately and falsely accused another person of being a racist in order to gain some sort of advantage. [1] An example of this use of the term occurred during the O.J. Simpson criminal trial, when critics accused the defense of “playing the race card"[2] in presenting Mark Fuhrman’s racist past (e.g. his recorded use of the word “nigger” in addition to his being accused of tampering with murder evidence in prior cases, as well as his use of the Fifth Amendment to avoid potential self-incrimination upon questioning) as a reason to draw his credibility as a witness into question. Another example would be a criticism of Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney’s assertion that she was the victim of “racial profiling"[3] after she allegedly struck a United States Capitol police officer who had grabbed her at a security checkpoint.

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Why is it some Republicans have no understanding of pretty much anything?

H,

Just a friendly reminder: You are just about the last person here at SAB to be commenting on the ignorance, real or perceived, of anyone else.

Your latest suggestion, for example, that only “progressive” Democrats are able to identify racism, is laughably stupid.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

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Did you know John McCain was a POW?

Saying...."hey, there are no brown people in a crowd is not the “race card”.

Of course it is, moron!  It’s judging the situation by skin color.  Whatever happened to the old Dem wheeze about a “colorblind society”?

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Bat misdiagnosis’s the situation:

Your latest suggestion, for example, that only “progressive” Democrats are able to identify racism, is laughably stupid.

I would agree with you Bat, if I suggested that only progressives are able to identify racism.  But that is not what I said.

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H,

I’m not interested in your games.  Play by yourself.

It’s judging the situation by skin color. 

Haha!

What skin color does the situation have Robert?

There is nothing racist by bringing to attention that there are no black people in the video, or at the convention.  I don’t think I saw more than 5. 

That is something to discuss, and it is not the race card being played when you bring to light that Blacks and minorities don’t think the Conservatives address there interests.

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I know HG, that game of reality and intelligence is too rough for some.

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There is nothing racist by bringing to attention that there are no black people in the video, or at the convention.

It is the epitome of racism to note the skin color in the gathering, as if it has some significance, moron.  The only people who care about skin color are racists!
Where is your support for a colorblind society?

I don’t think I saw more than 5. 

So, you were looking for racial identity, and counting.  Pure racism.  Why do you regard skin color as significant?

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

You self-styled “progressives” are the practitioners of racism in our present-day politics.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

What was that YOU said again Robert?

IMO, Powell has always been a RINO.  I’m sure he’s endorsing Obama for racial reasons. - Robert108

Yeah.......right.

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What was that YOU said again Robert?

I spoke to his prediliction.  You are using skin color to define significance.  In any case, pointing your little finger at me doesn’t make you any less racist.  Nice try, sonny.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Where is your support for a colorblind society?

I support the Democratic party.  The party that is color blind, as evidenced by its audience.

So, you were looking for racial identity, and counting.  Why do you regard skin color as significant?

I just noticed it was a stark contrast to the Democratic party.  It seemed odd to me.  Almost as if I was looking at another country, from another time.

I think you have the explaining to do.  Why so few minorities?

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I’m sure he’s endorsing Obama for racial reasons. - Robert108

Pure racism.

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I would agree with you Bat, if I suggested that only progressives are able to identify racism.  But that is not what I said.

H,

What you said may not match up word for word with what you clearly suggested by implication, but your meaning was clear enough.

You’d do well to remember this ain’t the choir you’re preaching to here, and most of us have sat through far more compelling sermons than yours.  This isn’t exactly our first revival!

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Pure racism.

So says the guy who counts by skin color.
I guess you don’t know the difference between racial reasons and racist reasons, do you?

You count heads on the basis of skin color, for racist reasons.
Colin Powell might vote for another black man for racial reasons.
I guess you just don’t get it; not a surprise, really.  Your racism has been exposed, and you’re squealing, trying to point your little finger somewhere else.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

I support the Democratic party. The party that is color blind, as evidenced by its audience.

You lie; the Dems are the Party of racism; without the race card, they would never win an election.  They are the party of slavery, segregation, Jim Crow and the KKK.  If you accept slavery in the past as an indictment of America, you must accept the racism of the Dem Party as an indictment of that Party.  Otherwise you are a lying hypocrite.  Which is it?

Why so few minorities?

Without a racial quota system and racial recruiting, like the Dems do, the people there are the people there.  Why is skin color significant to you?  What meaning do you impute to skin color?  You’re spinning and bullshitting now, instead of answering the question.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

The party that is color blind, as evidenced by its audience.

So the republican party is racist because you didn’t see a black man in the msnbc video. 

Now if that ain’t the race card nothing is.  BTW, it is exactly the race card Rbb played.

robert108, thanks again for reminding certain people of the facts.  The past century has been rife with democratic-controlled racism.  Your reminders of The Truth about racism is timely as well as your words here:

The only people who care about skin color are racists!

This skin / complexion counting must stop.  The shade of one’s skin does not qualify a person for any job, nor should it disqualify one.  When this stops, then people will finally be judged on their abilities as opposed to the salient quality of hue.

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Cool, then I must be really Colorblind - I can only see white

Now if that ain’t the race card nothing is. BTW, it is exactly the race card Rbb played.

If the Dems ever stop playing the race card, they will have to embrace American values again to win an election.  They might have to actually have some real solutions to things.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

right - we should really stop pointing out the obvious - because being critical of Reps goes against the true American values!

Justwondering.  Just wondering.  Do you know the percentage of “minorities” or whatever term you would like to use that consistently vote Democratic?  Republican?  If you like, we can see if those voting percentages are reflected by the categories at the Republican convention.... but that would force someone to classify each and every delegate.  When I taught, I was asked to fill out forms with B/W, B/G.  I did not classify my students.  I passed out confidential pieces of paper with their name on it and asked them to identify themselves.

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Chief - as far as I remember, in 2004 GWB carried the majority of the Latino vote as well as the Asian vote and 16 % of the black vote. All I am saying is, that the RNC plays into its critics hand, that claim the party is a white people’s club who does not care about minorities - which btw, I don’t believe it all. Just before you classify me as a kommi-leftist, I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries

Bat,

What you said may not match up word for word with what you clearly suggested by implication, but your meaning was clear enough.

Why not just ask Bat?  That would be the honest thing to do!

What I said was, why is it SOME republicans don’t know shit?  For example, Rob clearly misused the term “race card”, when someone made a joke about the obvious, and pointed it out.

So....my argument has NOTHING to do with racism.....at all!

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More proof that white men should NEVER EVER EVER dance.

Gosh...Looks like Kenya is being “white-ed” as well.....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080903/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_kenya_weather
“NAIROBI (Reuters) - A huge hailstorm turned parts of central Kenya white, thrilling residents most of whom had never experienced such conditions, officials said on Wednesday.
Hailstorms are usual in some parts of Kenya, which straddles the equator, but the ferocity of the storm in Busara, 255 km (158 miles) northwest of the capital was unprecedented.

Excited villagers pelted each other with snowballs while some ate pieces of the icy sheet that formed over an entire hillside.

“We thought a big white sheet had been spread, so we decided to come and see for ourselves. We thought that it was Jesus who had come back,” one villager told reporters...”

Kinda speaks for itself.....

Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?

Well...maybe not nothing at all.  But i meant my comment had nothing to do with saying who could pick out racism best or not.

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Justwondering.  NO, I am not quick with judgements.  In fact, it took almost one year before I wrote off one poster here.  I respect you more now for your adult reply.  I think the % was more like between 8-12% and I do hope that more people vote individually and not as a group.  Thanks for your condor.  I, too have seen way too much pandering by the left and not so much substantial assistance .  Glad to see a new person here with a balanced approach.

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HG gets confused:

So the republican party is racist because you didn’t see a black man in the msnbc video.

Now if that ain’t the race card nothing is. 

Nobody accused the Republicans of being racists because there were few, if any, darkies.

The only thing I called racist was Robert and Nieman’s remarks.  Pure racism!!

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I support the Democratic party.  The party that is color blind, as evidenced by its audience.

It is telling that the only ones concerned with the color of the audience are Democrats.  Of course, these are the very same “colorblind” Democrats whose presidential candidate arranged his audience for the benefit of the TV cameras, removing some of the more “colored” faces in favor of white ones.

Colorblind, my ass!

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Of all these differences, the contrast in racial and ethnic demographics is perhaps most visible to viewers of the conventions, being held this year on consecutive weeks. The Republican gathering has more white delegates than in 2004, and more men as well.

According to polls of delegates conducted by The New York Times and CBS News, 93 percent of the Republican delegates are white (compared with 85 percent in 2004 and 89 percent in 2000), while 5 percent are Hispanic and 2 percent are black. The Democratic delegate pool in Denver, according to the survey, was 65 percent white, 23 percent black and 11 percent Hispanic, roughly the same as at other recent Democratic conventions.[NYTimes]

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~Theodore Roosevelt

Again, nutbag; why is this so important to you?  Only a racist cares about skin color.  They’re all Americans, which is all that’s important.  Republicans don’t live by the race card, unlike the Dems.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Hannitized has a hard time dealing with realities like this one....

Excellent reporting, rbb, and this particularly telling observation from the research institute’s report that you quote…

“John McCain is very likely to receive a historically low share of the black vote,” the guide says, adding that this is not attributable to any experiences Senator McCain has had representing black constituents, but rather it is “a reflection of Senator Obama’s historic candidacy, the deep and genuine enthusiasm for him in the black community...”

http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/monochromatic#c333717

Of course, Hannitized becomes outraged at the mere suggestion that huge numbers of African-Americans support Senator Obama because he is one.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
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...the RNC plays into its critics hand, that claim the party is a white people’s club who does not care about minorities…

So, the RNC doesn’t have any racial quotas, and that “plays into” the racism of its critics?  You have it backward.  The “critics” are playing the race card(as they always do), and the RNC isn’t playing along with their racist bullshit.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

You are getting closer Bat!!

It is telling that the only ones concerned with the color of the audience are Democrats. 

Were not concerned with the color.  Were concerned by the LACK of color.  It’s conspicuous by its absence.

Of course, these are the very same “colorblind” Democrats whose presidential candidate arranged his audience for the benefit of the TV cameras, removing some of the more “colored” faces in favor of white ones.

Ha!  Yeah, we put all those different hues all around that entire football field as an orchestrated facade to give illusion to the television audience.

Keep stretching!!

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Again, nutbag; why is this so important to you?

I just think the absence of minorities goes to establish the fact that the party has a long, long way to go.

I don’t think your party truly understands how to address the concerns of anyone that is not white or Christian.

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Of course, Hannitized becomes outraged at the mere suggestion that huge numbers of African-Americans support Senator Obama because he is one.

Well, I am curious to know that if 90% of blacks voted for Democrats, prior to Obama being elected, how many more are voting for the Dem ticket this year??  95%? 91.5% What?

What outraged me about what you said PP, was that minorities in the military vote for Obama, because he is one.  But you have no data to support that claim.

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Hannitized… you just READ the data!

Do you have some facual evidence that it is NOT so?

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The times, they are a-changin’...
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...the absence of minorities…

That’s your racism speaking; you are judging only by appearance; unless you interviewed all those attendees.

I don’t think your party truly understands how to address the concerns of anyone that is not white or Christian.

More racism; you are assuming all that based on the physical appearance of a small percentage of the audience you saw on TV.  The producers decide who gets onscreen, btw.  Maybe it was the reverse of Obama “cleansing” the onstage audience at his speeches.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

Were not concerned with the color. Were concerned by the LACK of color. It’s conspicuous by its absence.

It’s the same thing, moron!  It’s the color of the skin that you think is significant, either way you try to spin and lie about it.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

It’s the same thing, moron!  It’s the color of the skin that you think is significant, either way you try to spin and lie about it.

Hahaha!  Not really son.

Being upset that darkies are in your group is bad.  Being concerned that there are no darkies in your group would be good, when it comes to politics.

The truth of the matter is you have to cling to crazy notions in order to be comfortable with the situation you are in.  I feel sorry for you, sort of.

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I just think the absence of minorities goes to establish the fact that the party has along, long way to go.

“fact” ??

Hannitized must hate it when the actual facts don’t support his world-view..

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"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The times, they are a-changin’...
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Being upset that darkies are in your group is bad.

I’m sorry that upsets you; conservatives don’t care about skin color.  We don’t play the race card to buy minority votes, either.  We don’t vote in entitlement pork to buy their votes.
You lefties are the repository of racism in this country, and your judging by racial quotas is only part of it.

The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

“I can’t stand here and tell you that there has been progress,” said Mr. Williams, one of four black statewide officials in Texas. “It’s a tough time right now, but we’ll get back on it.”

…According to the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies in Washington, which researches black issues, only 36 of the 2,380 convention delegates are black. In 2004, there were 167, or 6.7 percent of that year’s convention total.

Excuse me, you were saying?

Equality does not mean equal representation, but instead means equal opportunity.  Quotas do nothing but continue the cycle.  (Noting the lack of color indicates the same thought patterns.)

Personally, I refuse to answer when asked my race on any type of paperwork, surveys, etc.  If color shouldn’t matter, then why ask.  I just answer ‘American’ now.