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Yet another indication of moonbats infiltrating into the U.N.

Remind me again why we need the U.N.?

I think that the special envoy is saying that the Cuban government uses the embargo to legitimise and reinforce a climate of siege and the need to defend Cuba against its enemies...in fact the envoy says just that in the highlighted passages. I’m not sure how you jump from that reasonable position to America causing poor prison conditions in Cuba or advocating a policy of buddy-buddy relations with Castro but I’m probably not living in the real world.

I noticed she did not excoriate Castro for running gulag-like prisons for people who commit such heinous crimes as disagreeing with revolutionary ideals or reading books not on the approved lists. She did point a bony finger at America and imply it is all our fault. I read the reuters piece then went to the UN webpage and read her full summation of the report. She most definately implied the blame for Castro’s treatment of his citizens lay with the U.S.. And this is not the first time she has cast such aspertions. UNCoHR has in the past sided with such leading lights of human rights as Mugabe,Ghadafi,Pinochet,KimJong Il, the Taleban, and Arafat. Why anyone would take this kangaroo court comedy troupe seriously I will never understand.

I can’t get her report in English at the UN site so I can’t comment on her recommendations other than the one in the Reuters article where she calls on Cuba to

"release detained persons who have not committed acts of violence against individuals and property."

What were her other recommendations and was dropping the embargo one of them? 

Mike A...Was it in spanish? My spanish might be a little rusty? BUT, I could try if you tell me how to get there?

ZZ...the most recent documents I found were in French and Spanish but I couldn’t click through to either of them. The UN website is as well organised as everything else in their organisation....which isn’t very. I’ll update if I can find it.

I’m afraid my french is as rusty as my spanish… It would be interesting though…

I found the report here...it was actually posted in February and I wasn’t looking far enough back. The recommendations are all directed at the Cuban government but her opinion that the embargo should be lifted is quite plain.

MikeA...I clicked it and it said File not found? Am I doing something wrong? I am still kind of new at this???

I do alot of business at the UN Website and get docs in PDF from what appears to be a seperate source, I’ll try to get you the siteaddress. I had this set up 2 years ago by Da Geek and am not really sure how it works or is routed. I can not access from my laptop, it is not recognised, only my desktop workstation gets that. The call for Castro to release prisoners was very anemic. As for the embargo, Cuba can and does trade with anyone in the world they choose. This continuing cryfest is a smokescreen. We do not stop anything from going into Cuba, with the exception of certain military equipment and munitions. The restriction on US citizens going to Cuba is rather easy to work around, at least from our side, the Castro regime is another story entirely. The UNCoHR dumps on America for non-exsistent violations and routinely gives a total pass to leftist dictators and tribal mass murderers.   ZZ, give it another 24 hours and try through the public access links. Their site is unbelievably difficult to get things from, they don’t update nearly often enough. I think you can access certain things from the UN through a .gov link, I’ll see if I can find it. Try the State Dept. website, I think there is a reciprocal link through them.

ZZ...try this

Is that the interview that featured questions about bowling and Jewish girls? Talk about credibility…

The UN has a lot of problems and the Human Rights Commission has more than its share but I didn’t find too much that I disagreed with in the Cuba report. If Bolton had any interest in reforming the Human Rights Commission then he would have indicated what his objections were before the reform report came out when American opinion could have had some bearing on its final form. This is Bolton’s strategy with the UN generally...not taking a serious role in the process then criticising after the fact. I’m glad he won’t be there long.

Mike, he was set in place after the point at which our UN Rep should have made recommendations. He has had to force himself into these proceedings against a great deal of resistance. His predecessor rubberstamped everything that hit the desk, making no effort to push any reform that did not originate from the Sec Gen’s office. The best thing that could happen to the UN is for John R. to assume the Sec Gen post, take his ideological baseball bat and start smashing things.

2H9...this article is is line with my thoughts on Bolton at the UN. The UN won’t see reform until Washington gets serious about reforming it.

Nothing against Jewish girls at all. I’m sure that Pamela is a fine writer when she can keep track of who she’s writing about...I know that brothers seem to throw her off.

If Bolton had any interest in reforming the Human Rights Commission then he would have indicated what his objections were before the reform report came out when American opinion could have had some bearing on its final form. This is Bolton’s strategy with the UN generally...not taking a serious role in the process then criticising after the fact. I’m glad he won’t be there long.

I think he’s the best appointment Bush has made.  I hope he stays there for decades.  His straight talking and take-no-nonsense has been a breath of fresh air.

Maybe you like the endless excuses bandied about by the bureaucrats at the UN, Mike, but I don’t.  Everybody wants America to fix the international communities problems, but nobody ever likes the way America does it.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I am not a big fan of the UN. Rob at File It Under has a really great post from yesterday. I can’t help but think of all the UNdesirable UN decisions that seem UNresonable for our world. Maybe we need the UN??? The UN sounds like a great idea, BUT the UN just seems to be UNecessay? Am I being UNfair? ...

Mike, I am all for disolving our ties to the UN. Attempts at reform are failing,not due to Bolton, due to the flow of money and resources to people who otherwise would have to get jobs. The UN has made everything it touches worse, has since the ‘50s. Look at Africa and try to convince anyone the UN is hepling. Look at Korea, that situation should have been resolved in ‘53, yet it continues as a drain on the entire region. A destabilizing cancer that is slowly worsening. Look at Cuba, the UN has given legitamacy to a man who has held an entire population hostage for his personal whims. Steve Clemons is a supporter of our continued course of subservience to the Third World through the UN. Why should we sink to their level of poverty and misery. Why does the UN resist lifting them up to our level. Why do human rights abusers continue to hold the 3 leading chairs on a commission that is supposed to stop human rights abuse? The nations who should be leading UNCoHR are thrown from the room, those with the worst record on human rights are in charge. Exactly how is this reform meant to improve the UN? The point in all this? Senior administrators in the UN are fighting to drag the whole world down to the level of Zimbabwe,Burma, and Cuba. Not up to the level of Europe and North America, yes, I include Canada in the modern world. Why are so many in the UN fighting those who want to bring the Third World countries into the 21st century? Exactly who will gain by dragging the modern world into a new darkage?

2H9...I infer from your comments that you don’t think the UN is worth reforming. If we get rid of the UN, what shall we use instead?

Rob said

Everybody wants America to fix the international communities problems, but nobody ever likes the way America does it.

Interesting dilemma. The world can let America solve the world’s problems but not criticise or it can get together with America in some sort of international arrangement and take an active role in solving the problems except 2H9 and John Bolton don’t want it to be the UN.

Canada beat the States in baseball BTW. 

Nothing. The UN has not helped, only made things worse. Little countries are screwed over by bigger countries, the UN steps in and demands its cut off the top. Little country still gets screwed. Making a new UN will change nothing. Countries making associations among themselves and looking out for there interests would be a better solution. Combining criminals into an organised body and giving them authority to take actions that profit them and harm everyone else is just a bad idea. That is what the UN has become. And it became that very early in its history.

I just find it interesting that you say this…

The UN won’t see reform until Washington gets serious about reforming it.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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2H9...associations among themselves is an option and maybe it will come down to that. I’m no fan of large bureaucratic organisations because the corruption and inefficiency that you see in the UN is what you see in virtually all large organisations. It’s not an easy issue because a bunch of associations in the world would create different problems and issues...maybe it just isn’t an issue with a satisfactory resolution.

Rob...not only does somebody have to stop calling people on the BS but somebody has to take concrete steps to stop the BS and Bolton hasn’t said or done anything to suggest that he wants that...he just wants out. America has long called for reform but I expect it will take an Administration change to take a real shot at it...and it doesn’t matter whether the next Administration is Republican or Democrat. The current Administration is just anti-UN and I don’t see the next one carrying that stance to the same degree.