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Once again, using a few small facts as a ramp to jump a Grand Canyon sized conclusion…

Facts:
1. Someone stole this couple’s credit card, or card number and should be prosecuted.
2. They found out about it because this person used their card to make a donation to the Obama campaign.

Conclusions (Based on NO facts):
1. The Obama campaign is directly responsible.

Not sure how you came to this one, except for the fact that you so badly WANT it to be true

2. OBVIOUSLY it was an ‘inside job’ since the person donated the maximum allowable amount.

Did you ever consider that they attempted to donate $5,000 and the amount was dropped per campaign finance law? Or perhaps, the person committing the fraud is as familiar with campaign law as you are, and subsiquently KNEW $2,300 was the maximum allowable amount? That number is not a secret…

Either way, you are continuing to reach, as you have been since this campaign started. I’m still waiting for some POSITIVE content about the McCain campaign, but all I keep seeing is more Obama-bashing…

Dharma Bum,

It may not be “fair” but the reality is that when you play in the big leagues, an office holder or candidate for high office his held to account for all that is done in his name or on his behalf… good or bad.

President Bush, for example, has been held to account for all manner of things in which he has had no personal involvement, while his predecessor has taken credit for any number of things which took place during his presidency for which he was in no way responsible.

If young Mr. Obama had any sort of substantive experience, not to mention some integrity, he would take responsibility for those reprehensible things done in his name, at least to the point of publicly disavowing them and demanding that such activities stop.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Either way, you are continuing to reach,

So, OCK, you are suggesting that by some unbelievable, mind boggling coincidence, a sophisticated thief took the risk of stealing the Larmans credit card information and decided to donate to Obama, rather than buy a new TV or something. Now that is the true reach. Does that mean the Obama Campaign is responsible?  Probably not. 

But let’s see, given all the voter fraud, the 3000 Obama campaign contributions reported by the NY Times that contained false information, and the line between the dots does not appear a long one.

By the way here is the link to the NY Times report

Oh, it could be, as you suggest, the Larmans are not telling the truth.

I’m waiting for some logical answers to valid, fact supported questions regarding Senator Obama, and his relationships.  You have heard McCains positions, and it appears you don’t like them.  That’s fine.  Why would anything anybody writes change your mind.

Why is this shocking, ACORN led by Barry is trying to steal this election and you are stunned over stealing 2300 dollars while the left just ripped off Hundreds of Billions of dollars gutting the banks and shareholders.It is only 2300 dollars after all.

It sure does seem like a lot of illegal things are stacking up associated with the Obama campaign?

Conclusions (Based on NO facts):
1. The Obama campaign is directly responsible.

Not sure how you came to this one, except for the fact that you so badly WANT it to be true

2. OBVIOUSLY it was an ‘inside job’ since the person donated the maximum allowable amount.

Spoken as a true graduate of the Joe Biden Let’s Just Make Shit Up Academy.

1. NOWHERE in the original post is the accusation that the Obama campaign is directly responsible. You pulled that one out of your ass, threw it against the wall, in hopes that to would stick, but it didn’t.

2. See #1.

If you’re going to accuse someone of operating in a non-factual manner, it would behoove you to get your own shit straight before smearing it all over the stall.

Also, the article said “the charge involves the Obama campaign”.

Are you going to argue that point?

It was a fraudulent charge on their credit card paid to the Obama campaign. Hence, the campaign is “involved”.

You’re so eager to interpret this as someone making a baseless accusation against your Jesus figure, that you’re not allowing your brain to process the English language properly.

We must be ”racist” to pre-suppose that anything nefarious could be going on with this......

/*Dave
[Political Correctness is the Shield of a Coward]

Bruce,

You are a psycho.  The headline clearly leads one to conclude that Obama is directly responsible.

The obama campaign has threatened using spam to attack patdollards blog so it would’nt suprise me that they would resort to illegal activities.  They also sent a 800,000 donation to buy off acorn. i wonder if that is illegal for Acorn to accept the donation

I’m sure a ‘righty’ did it do discredit Obama.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Chris insults, You are a psycho.  The headline clearly leads one to conclude that Obama is directly responsible.

The headline: Credit Card Fraud For Obama

Key word emboldened for psycho Chris.

Those silly people
They should have been told it is racist to dispute a credit card charge from Obama Hussein
They are supposed to feel privileged to have been chosen as a victim
Stupid racist greedy infidels

/sarc

What won’t this man and his minions do?

What won’t this man and his minions do?

I will give you three guesses
And stealing the election does not count

Spark,

You may be right, who knows? However, the article Rob posted was just to make people aware this was occurring. The credit card co. told the couple they were familiar w// this, so it must not be an one-off.

di butler
i was half making fun of the comment on the other end of the link and half making fun of the fact that there are no longer facts. neither of which are funny. sorry for that.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Is it possible that Obama has family in Nigeria?

I notice that most people on here want to argue the facts and I agree. Charges to Obama for America also appear on my credit card. Here are my facts.

Facts:
1. I had donations to Obama for America listed on my credit card statement. The charges were made to two seperate VISA accounts. My credit company is Capital One.
2. I did not make those donations; therefore someone stole my credit card numbers. Neither Obama for America nor Capital One claim to know how my numbers were stolen.
3. This was an illegal activity. One that should be investigated and the guilty party, or parties, arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, no matter who it is.

I leave you to draw what assumptions you like, but for Pete’s sake… make them intelligent ones!

When this story broke on talk radio, I heard several other callers say that they had the same thing happen to them and thought until now that it had just been a fluke. One caller from Connecticut related her friend’s attempt to start by calling the Obama Campaign to cancel the charge. The person she reached tried to talk her into leaving the charge on her card.

Granted that this is technically hearsay… the friend of a caller on a talk show. But no matter who is doing this and why, I think we should all keep an eye on our credit card statements in the upcoming days, just in case!

Granted that this is technically hearsay… the friend of a caller on a talk show. But no matter who is doing this and why, I think we should all keep an eye on our credit card statements in the upcoming days, just in case!

Here’s one that ISN’T hearsay. My CC was billed $2000 by the Obama for America Campaign. Now, they didn’t give me any trouble disputing it and I have received a credit in the proper amount, but here is the thing. It took me 1 week to discover the charge was on the account. Don’t you think that if someone had my CC#, they would be charging as much as they could until it was cancelled? In that entire week, this was the only fraudulent charge. Think about it.

My parents had the same things happen to them last week as the Kansas City couple had.  The Obama Campaign Chicago office charged $2300 to their discover card. The credit card company has been notified and is investigating. They were told that it was keyed in that office to their account.  I wanted to think this was an error until I heard about the KC couple. Now I wonder how many people have become victim to this. I agree the candidate is responsible for what his campaign workers do!!

My parents had this same thing happen to them about a week ago. The Obama Campaign office charged $2300 to their credit card.  Is this coincidence or fraud?  Isn’t it interesting the same thing happened to another couple in another city?  The credit card company is investigating. However, even if a campaign worker fraudulently did this isn’t the candidate responsible for the actions of the their team?

The headline clearly leads one to conclude that Obama is directly responsible.

No, the headline clearly indicates that Obama is the beneficiary of the fraud. It says nothing of responsibility.

Excuse me, you were saying?

I have made one ten dollar donation through my credit card and nothing happened to me. how on earth would the obama campaign ever get credit card numbers to people who absolutely do not support him? If they have never been on the site and gave out no information, where could they have gotten a card number? that doesn’t match up. this couple must have given it to someone on the inside, doubt it, and that particular person charged that card. This fraud isn’t the act of Obama himself, and for pete sake his campaign isn’t called the leige of saints. For people who still support obama DON’T LET SOME LOW LIFE THAT IS INVOLVED, WHICH COULD BE ANY VOLUNTEER FROM AROUND THE NATION, CHANGE YOUR OPINIONS OR VOTE FOR OBAMA.

I’ll give the Kansas couple the benefit of the doubt and say that if it did happen, they could simply call their credit card company and chargeback the amount. The problem isn’t the Obama campaign, its the idiot who stole the credit card.

Credit card charge fraud:
We have to watchout and better check all of our credit card statement carefully.  There were a Northland Couple Warns of Political Credit Card Fraud this month.  Their chase credit card was charged $2300.00 from Obam campaign.  They states that they did not know why being charged and they voted for Mccain.  Please see the link below for the story on Fox new and the video:

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7599837&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Video:
http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7600468&version=1&locale=EN-US