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Sunday, December 11, 2005

Conservative Blogs Are Better, Redux

That New York Times piece about conservative blogs being "better" than liberal I posted about on Friday is up now.

Frankly, I was expecting a little more. What we have here is three paragraphs making some sweeping generalizations all based on the comments of an "expert" liberal blogger by the name of Matt Stoller. Its some pretty lazy reporting.

The gist of the article is that conservative bloggers are more effective than liberal bloggers. This, explains the author (Michael Crowley), is because the conservative bloggers are a bunch of lock-step ideologues who all stay on the party message with few deviations while the liberal bloggers are a bunch of free-thinking independents who adhere more to an ideology than a party. The article is also suffused with overtones of conservative media bias (the right has Rush Limbaugh and Fox News!) and comes off as totally ridiculous.

It all comes off as a sort of backhanded compliment. And if Crowley is going to write an article about right-leaning bloggers being in lock-step with their party his timing leaves something to be desired. After all, we're just coming off the Meiers nomination, something that was rejected by the vast majority of right-leaning blogger. Its a bit hard to lend Crowley any sort of credibility after leaving that tid-bit of information out of the article.

Personally, I don't think either side of the blogosphere lay claim to being more independent from party politics than the other. Both sides have their partisans and both sides have their independent thinkers. I think that Crowley is right in his conclusion that conservative blogs are more "effective," but has his reasoning all wrong. As I pointed out in my previous post, conservative blogs are more effective right now because the political leaders on the right are much easier to follow and support. On the biggest issues of the day (the war and the topics surrounding it) right-leaning politicians have been taking mostly principled and consistent stands. The politicians on the left have mostly been searching for a way to score political points and get themselves elected back into power.

Michelle Malkin has much more.

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[...] Rob points out: It all comes off as a sort of backhanded compliment. And if Crowley is going to write an article about right-leaning bloggers being in lock-step with their party his timing leaves something to be desired. After all, we’re just coming off the Meiers nomination, something that was rejected by the vast majority of right-leaning blogger. Its a bit hard to lend Crowley any sort of credibility after leaving that tid-bit of information out of the article.    [Permalink] [Trackback URL] Trackback URL for this entry: http://acepilots.com/mt/2005/12/11/crowley-conservative-blogs-are-rovian-tools/trackback/ [...]

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Also conservative blogs are able to refute the old media who don’t understand that they can’t get away with lying anymore.

The Whistler on December 11, 2005 at 03:13 pm
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This, explains the author (Michael Crowley), is because the conservative bloggers are a bunch of lock-step ideologues who all stay on the party message with few deviations while the liberal bloggers are a bunch of free-thinking independents who adhere more to an ideology than a party.

This is, of course, absolutely true---and Say Anything is a textbook example. A better title might be “Say Anything That Malkin, GOPUSA, or Sun Young Moon’s Washington Times Says First.”

As I pointed out in my previous post, conservative blogs are more effective right now because the political leaders on the right are much easier to follow and support.

Again, true---the Bush regime’s message is simple and never-changing. Since our isolated president never hears any real news, there is no reason to change.

On the biggest issues of the day (the war and the topics surrounding it) right-leaning politicians have been taking mostly principled and consistent stands.

Thr Bush regime’s ONLY principle is higher profits for the oil and arms industires----which, I must admit, they’ve been very good at.

Fucking the poor is merely a happy byproduct for them.

Don Myers on December 12, 2005 at 06:12 am
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* yawn *

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ICallMasICM on December 12, 2005 at 06:13 am
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[...] by Pajamas Media staff in Barcelona Monday, December 12, 2005 “Biggest. Anticlimax. Ever,” writes Captain’s Quarters regarding Michael Crowley’s piece in the New York Times’ magazine arguing that conservative blogs are more effective than their liberal counterparts. The expectations had been raised by an Editor & Publisher preview, so when the article finally came out quite a few went straight to their keyboards:  Michelle Malkin thinks it’s the candidate for dumbest NYTimes piece ever, and offers several examples of disagreements among conservative bloggers on hot issues recently, contra Crowley’s assertion that they present a monolithic, coordinated voice: “Anyone who swallows the idea that conservative bloggers are an organized arm of the Republican machine who are easily mobilized at the command of Karl Rove does not read conservative blogs--and should not be paid by the NYTimes or anyone else to write about them.” Peakah Provocations: “I happen to believe that the good bloggers who pay attention and scrutinize multiple mainstream media outlets, and who are not afraid to comment and provide depth into their stories, have won the hearts and minds of the introspective and educated American.” The American Mind: “What may be making conservative weblogs politically effective is how other conservative media, especially talk radio, use weblogs for ideas and to comprehend future political currents.” MyDD: “Liberal blogs are way more important than conservative blogs, as I’ve said here.  Right-wing blogs are an adjunct to a powerful right-wing message machine.  By contrast, we are all there is on our side.” Brainster’s Blog: “The story which reveals what a bunch of crap this represents, is the Jeff Gannon story. The liberal blogosphere’s big scoop of 2005, it immediately got picked up by the major media and was reported endlessly. Contrast that to the Eason Jordan story which the conservative blogs picked up a few days earlier. Now remember, Gannon was a nobody, a reporter for a tiny online-only press organization, while Eason Jordan was running CNN. The mainstream media tried mightily to ignore Jordan’s claim that the US military had intentionally targeted journalists during the Iraq war.” Texas Hold’em Blogger: “This misguided concept of all conservatives and conservative media marching in lockstep getting their marching orders from the RNC or Karl Rove would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic. I believe it was the Clinton administration who gave us the infamous “11:00 (ET) conference call,” which gave their minions the talking points to head out to the cable news shows for that evening.” Instapundit: “Much ado about not much.” Banter in Atlanter: “So let me get this right. The liberal blogs are the ones which seek to investigate all sides of an issue; they are truth seekers. Their blogs simply serve as a forum for grievances and venting, whereas the conservatives are only interested in “eliciting strong emotional responses from their readers.” Lefties are intellectually honest investigators and righties are demagogues.” Say Anything: “Personally, I don’t think either side of the blogosphere lay claim to being more independent from party politics than the other. Both sides have their partisans and both sides have their independent thinkers. I think that Crowley is right in his conclusion that conservative blogs are more “effective,” but has his reasoning all wrong.” The Tension: “If liberal bloggers calmed down and made their cases rationally while backing up the statements by facts, they would be much more effective. As it is now, liberal bloggers often come off as a whiney, blathering, and divisive rabble who find it easy to point out their dislike of certain issues but don’t offer many solutions to those problems.” Green Piece translates Crowley; it’s what he said vs what he really meant.  PoliZoo: “I like DailyKos and respect all that he has accomplished, but that site is loaded with the same attack stuff that any conservative blog has. Moreover, I’m guessing that many cons did a heck of a job attacking President Bush over the Miers nomination. Liberals can attack Hillary all they want for her pro-war vote, but look where opposing the war got Howard Dean.” The Reaction: “The conservative blogosphere may indeed be diverse in its own way—diverse insofar as different elements of conservatism are debated and discussed, if rarely allowed to be challenged by non-conservative thought—but like other parts of the conservative movement it sets aside such difference for the sake of political unity and the goal of electoral success.” [...]

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[...] by Pajamas Media staff in Barcelona Monday, December 12, 2005 “Biggest. Anticlimax. Ever,” writes Captain’s Quarters regarding Michael Crowley’s piece in the New York Times’ magazine arguing that conservative blogs are more effective than their liberal counterparts. The expectations had been raised by an Editor & Publisher preview, so when the article finally came out quite a few went straight to their keyboards:  Michelle Malkin thinks it’s the candidate for dumbest NYTimes piece ever, and offers several examples of disagreements among conservative bloggers on hot issues recently, contra Crowley’s assertion that they present a monolithic, coordinated voice: “Anyone who swallows the idea that conservative bloggers are an organized arm of the Republican machine who are easily mobilized at the command of Karl Rove does not read conservative blogs--and should not be paid by the NYTimes or anyone else to write about them.” Peakah Provocations: “I happen to believe that the good bloggers who pay attention and scrutinize multiple mainstream media outlets, and who are not afraid to comment and provide depth into their stories, have won the hearts and minds of the introspective and educated American.” The American Mind: “What may be making conservative weblogs politically effective is how other conservative media, especially talk radio, use weblogs for ideas and to comprehend future political currents.” MyDD: “Liberal blogs are way more important than conservative blogs, as I’ve said here.  Right-wing blogs are an adjunct to a powerful right-wing message machine.  By contrast, we are all there is on our side.” Brainster’s Blog: “The story which reveals what a bunch of crap this represents, is the Jeff Gannon story. The liberal blogosphere’s big scoop of 2005, it immediately got picked up by the major media and was reported endlessly. Contrast that to the Eason Jordan story which the conservative blogs picked up a few days earlier. Now remember, Gannon was a nobody, a reporter for a tiny online-only press organization, while Eason Jordan was running CNN. The mainstream media tried mightily to ignore Jordan’s claim that the US military had intentionally targeted journalists during the Iraq war.” Texas Hold’em Blogger: “This misguided concept of all conservatives and conservative media marching in lockstep getting their marching orders from the RNC or Karl Rove would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic. I believe it was the Clinton administration who gave us the infamous “11:00 (ET) conference call,” which gave their minions the talking points to head out to the cable news shows for that evening.” Instapundit: “Much ado about not much.” Banter in Atlanter: “So let me get this right. The liberal blogs are the ones which seek to investigate all sides of an issue; they are truth seekers. Their blogs simply serve as a forum for grievances and venting, whereas the conservatives are only interested in “eliciting strong emotional responses from their readers.” Lefties are intellectually honest investigators and righties are demagogues.” Say Anything: “Personally, I don’t think either side of the blogosphere lay claim to being more independent from party politics than the other. Both sides have their partisans and both sides have their independent thinkers. I think that Crowley is right in his conclusion that conservative blogs are more “effective,” but has his reasoning all wrong.” The Tension: “If liberal bloggers calmed down and made their cases rationally while backing up the statements by facts, they would be much more effective. As it is now, liberal bloggers often come off as a whiney, blathering, and divisive rabble who find it easy to point out their dislike of certain issues but don’t offer many solutions to those problems.” Green Piece translates Crowley; it’s what he said vs what he really meant.  PoliZoo: “I like DailyKos and respect all that he has accomplished, but that site is loaded with the same attack stuff that any conservative blog has. Moreover, I’m guessing that many cons did a heck of a job attacking President Bush over the Miers nomination. Liberals can attack Hillary all they want for her pro-war vote, but look where opposing the war got Howard Dean.” The Reaction: “The conservative blogosphere may indeed be diverse in its own way—diverse insofar as different elements of conservatism are debated and discussed, if rarely allowed to be challenged by non-conservative thought—but like other parts of the conservative movement it sets aside such difference for the sake of political unity and the goal of electoral success.” [...]

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