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Thursday, August 07, 2008

Congressional “Gang Of Ten” Wants Deal On Off-Shore Drilling

Meaning that they’ll allow off-shore drilling, but only if we spend tens of billions of tax dollars on renewable energy (read: more subsidies and mandates for ethanol).

The latest half-baked idea comes from a “gang of ten” senators — five Republicans, five Democrats — who have offered a compromise that would lift the ban on offshore drilling in exchange for $20 billion in new federal spending on alternative sources of energy. The list — ag-friendly guys like Saxby Chambliss and Kent Conrad, corn-staters like Ben Nelson and John Thune — smells of ethanol. The compromise bill includes $2.5 billion for biofuel research and billions more in incentives for automakers to make cars with ethanol-burning engines. There might be a smart way for Washington to subsidize research into alternative energy, but this isn’t it.

Am I the only one who is weary to death of seeing the ethanol industry constantly showered with gifts such as those proposed above all at the expense of the taxpayers?  And what good does lower gas prices do if taxpayers are burdened once again with additional government spending aimed at propping up the biofuel industry?

Put simply: In the decades biofuels like ethanol have been available on our markets not once have they ever been a cheaper alternative to gasoline without subsidy.  Even now with E85 ethanol selling for dozens of cents less per gallon than traditional gasoline it’s still not a viable alternative because people who use it lose fuel efficiency, anywhere from 5 - 15 miles per gallon.

Republicans need to stand firm on the drilling question.  They need to tell America, and the Democrats, that we are going drill for more oil in America because that’s the right thing to do and that such a decision doesn’t need to be tied to any more corporate welfare for “big biofuel.”

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Its telling that the very same twits who bemoan the “tax breaks” given to the oil companies, are the ones who insist on showering more and more taxpayer money on the consistently un-profitable bio-fuels industry.

Meanwhile, the cost of virtually all our foodstuffs continues to go up and up in response to those very same misguided taxpayer subsidies.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on August 7, 2008 at 08:00 am
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Its telling that the very same twits who bemoan the “tax breaks” given to the oil companies, are the ones who insist on showering more and more taxpayer money on the consistently un-profitable bio-fuels industry.

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Proof on August 7, 2008 at 08:07 am

If biofuels EVER become economically viable they’ll be demonized as well. 

For example family farms are ok as long as they survive only on subsidies.  But let them earn a profit and they morph into “big corporate farms” fast than you can down a shot of ethanol.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 7, 2008 at 08:09 am
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Good point, Whistler.

Liberals only like people when they’re dependent on the government.


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Rob on August 7, 2008 at 08:11 am
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The alternative fuels craze has birthed a new mother lode of tax money in the form of subsidies to big industry and research colleges.  They are awash in money and no one is able to really oversee how the money is spent.  The politicians point with pride at their “forward looking energy policy” which is measured in the amount of money they earmark and pork for the home projects----ala Iowa and Illinois.  Windpower is one of the big boondoggles--there is no way to store the power that is in excess---and in ND there is no way to get much of the wind generation to market.  We have the cart before the horse.

halatbis on August 7, 2008 at 08:31 am
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I wonder if Big Corn will have a windfall profits tax coming its way anytime soon?  Now that waitress Barry is so concerned about will have cheap gas but expensive corn flakes!

The one thing that this doesn’t do is open up the market to brazilian ethanol that is ten times better then anything we produce.  By the way it is made from waste sugar and has an 8 to 1 energy produced to energy needed to be produced margin unlike corn’s 2 to 1 margin.

James on August 7, 2008 at 11:01 am
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ENERGY SCARCITY SYMPTOMS AND CAUSES

Is there not bi-partisan support for treating both the symptoms and the causes of this fossil fuel crisis; or, shall that be left to the detriment of the next generation. Are the patriotic Reagan Republicans and Kennedy Liberals to finally unite for the benefit of the nation or not?

The trillions that have been bi-partisanly squandered with no economic return, on un-Constitutional intrusive foreign wars in Serbia and Iraq, should all have been invested in research and development of solar, tidal, wind, and hydrogen sources of inexpensive and clean sources of energy.

Subversive Neo-Marxist ideology, Podhoretz Neo-Con and Leiberman Neo-Lib, is the root cause of the break-down of the traditional bi-partisan government, the un-Constitutional foreign wars, and the escalating Cultural War in defense of traditional Christian culture.

Jeugenen on August 7, 2008 at 11:51 am
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RUSH LIMBAUGH TO BE OR NOT TO BE BI-PARTISAN
Rush Limbaugh has completed his undergraduate work in partisan politics with honors; now, he can either remain at that level, or start graduate work in nationally unifying bi-partisan politics. His new following would then come from both patriotic Reagan Republicans and Kennedy Liberals, as he hangs the notoriously divisive ranting and screaming Podhoretz Neo-Cons and Leiberman Neo-Libs from the sour apple tree.

Jeugenen on August 7, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Speaking of another industry that Democrats like to demonize, Juegenen is off his meds again.....

What a deal that corn likker is.....we spend tens of billions of dollars to actually reduce our mileage, use almost as much petroleum, and in the process we poison our rivers and portions of the ocean with excess fertilizer, reducing the supply of fish.  If you wanted to be stupider, you’d have the vote from Amtrak’s “City of New Orleans” to watch the devastation.

Bike Bubba on August 7, 2008 at 12:41 pm
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