Congress On Pace To Set Another Record For Doing Very Little

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According to Bloomberg News, this Congress is getting even less done than the Congress before it which set a record for not getting things done:

Since the 113th Congress convened in January, the Senate has been in session 80 days and the House 84 days. Lawmakers passed 15 bills that were then signed by the president. That’s eight fewer than in the first six months of the last Congress and 19 fewer than in the same stretch of the 111th Congress.

“The 113th Congress is on track to be even less productive than the historic 112th Congress,” said Thomas Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. “The problem arises from a Republican House unwilling and unable to engage in the normal process of negotiation and compromise with the president, and their continued willingness to live with a destructive sequester.”

This will be reported as a negative by the media who have a fetish for bipartisanship regardless of the nature of the compromise. “[J]ournalists fetishize centrism and deal making, and assume that the best of all possible legislation, regardless of its actual content, is the kind that has both parties’ fingerprints on it,” wrote Ross Douthat for the New York Times about what he says critics of the attitude have labeled “bipartisanthink.”

“By conflating the march of progress with the march of legislation through Congress, bipartisanthink allows journalists to take sides and root for particular outcomes without having to explicitly choose sides.”

So what we will get from our reports and editors and television news personalities is endless griping about a “do-nothing Congress” without any talk about what sort of bad policy this Congress might have avoided passing.

Which is amazing in a nation with as many laws as this one. There is credible research indicating that the expansion of the federal regulatory code has made America 72% poorer, and the federal criminal code is growing at an alarming rate as well. Between 2000 to 2007, the federal government created an average of 56.7 new federal crimes every year according to the Heritage Foundation.

Our tax code is so expansive, and so complicated, that even many of the federal government’s lawmakers and top-ranking administrators can’t file their returns free of errors.

So here’s to a do-nothing Congress. Because often – usually, even, I’d argue – federal lawmakers doing nothing is better than doing something.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Captjohn

    I agree with Rob. Pass no new laws, take your oversight responsibility seriously, investigate the things you have all ready passed and repeal those that have had bad unintended consequences and I’ll start to trust congress.

    • Roy_Bean

      I’m not convinced that the problem is as much unintended consequences as it is unsuspected consequences. There’s way too much of the “trust me” mentality on both sides of the aisle.

      • Thresherman

        I used to think a lot of it was unintended consequences, but too many things have happened that should have been easily anticipated. It would be easy to assign them to sheer stupidity, but that would also mean that far too many people would be essentially stupid. So sometimes I have to wonder if what seems to be an incredible lack of foresight is in fact a deliberate act to facilitate an as of yet unseen motive.

      • 7point62

        ALL IN THE CPUSA FAMILY…..
        Quote:
        Radical family ties

        However, the Times did not report any of Jarrett’s radical family connections.

        Regarding Jarrett’s mother, the Times says only that “her mother had a Chicago street named after her for her work in early childhood education.”

        As WND was first to report, Jarrett’s mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, founded an education initiative alongside Ayers’ family that was funded by Ayers, Obama and ultimately the 2009 “stimulus” legislation.

        The Chicago school, the Erikson Institute, focuses on training people who work in early childhood development.

        Besides founding Erikson, Bowman was president of the institute from 1994 to 2001 and served as the school’s Irving B. Harris professor of child development.

        One of the Erikson Institute’s former trustees and members of the executive committee is the late Thomas Ayers, father of Bill Ayers.

        Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers’ wife, also served on the Erikson board.

        In his 1998 book, “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court,” Bill Ayers calls Jarrett’s mother, Bowman, a “neighbor and a friend.”

        Obama and Bill Ayers once funded Erikson together. The Erikson Institute was among the first 35 school partnerships awarded funds in December 1995 by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers was a founder of the Annenberg Challenge; Obama was hired in 1995 as the group’s first chairman.

        In 2009, Erickson was awarded just shy of $5 million from Obama’s so-called stimulus legislation.

        Frank Marshall Davis connection

        The Times profile briefly mentions Jarrett’s grandfather and father but not her father-in-law, who may have been instrumental in introducing her to Obama and who himself is tied to the president.

        The profile states her grandfather, Robert Taylor, “built much of Chicago’s public housing,” while “her father was a pioneering doctor.”

        The Times reported Obama and Valerie Jarrett “met more than two decades ago, when Ms. Jarrett – a lawyer, like both Obamas – offered Mrs. Obama a job in the Chicago mayor’s office.”

        However, Jarrett may have been introduced to the Obamas through her father-in-law, a communist sympathizer who worked with Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis, as WND was first to report.

        Jarrett’s father-in-law, Vernon Jarrett, was an associate of Frank Marshall Davis, the controversial Communist Party activist who has been identified as an early influence on Obama.

        Vernon Jarrett and Davis worked together in 1940 in a Communist Party-dominated organization, the Citizen’s Committee to Aid Packing House Workers. The group’s own correspondence, previously uncovered by the New Zeal blog, describes its communist influence. Many of its leaders were tied to the Communist Party.

        The pair also frequented the South Side Community Art Center, which was dominated by communists. In addition, Davis and Vernon Jarrett worked in the late 1940s on the communist-influenced, black-run Chicago Defender newspaper.

        In 1948, Jarrett started a radio show, “Negro Newsfront,” and went on to become the Chicago Tribune’s first black syndicated columnist.

        A Washington Post obituary of Vernon Jarrett notes he “stoked the political embers in Chicago that led to the 1983 election of the city’s first African-American mayor, Harold Washington.”

        “Vernon Jarrett was a key influence in Washington’s decision to run for the Chicago mayoralty and remained a key supporter through his four-year tenure,” the newspaper reported.

        Obama has hailed Washington’s victory as a motivation for him to move to Chicago from New York. Washington was involved in communist-dominated circles in Chicago.

        Vernon Jarrett clearly watched the rise of Obama as an activist. When Obama worked for Project Vote to register black voters with the intent of aiding the senatorial campaign of Carol Moseley Braun, Jones took note. Obama later took over Braun’s Senate seat.

        Writing in the Chicago Sun-Times in 1992, Jarrett said: “Good news! Good news! Project Vote, a collectivity of 10 church-based community organizations dedicated to black voter registration, is off and running. … If Project Vote is to reach its goal of registering 150,000 out of an estimated 400,000 unregistered blacks statewide, ‘it must average 10,000 rather than 7,000 every week,’ says Barack Obama, the program’s executive director.”

        Valerie Jarrett married Vernon’s son, William Robert Jarrett, in 1983.

        In 1987, she got her start in politics, working for Washington as deputy corporation counsel for finance and development. She was deputy chief of staff for Mayor Richard Daley, during which time she hired Michelle Robinson, who then was engaged to Obama.

        Valerie Jarrett went on to run the finances for Obama’s successful Senate bid in 2004, the year Vernon Jarrett died.

        Read more at http:
        //www.wnd.com/2013/07/new-york-times-profile-scrubs-valerie-jarretts-radical-ties/#VTGlg6LmoWZe4XKy.99

  • Thresherman

    Let us remember that in the Senate, a large percentage of their time was spent on gun control and legalizing illegal aliens. Not exactly the kinds of things a nation with a massive unemployment problem and a gigantic national debt that still keeps ballooning.

  • whowon

    Never took up Dr. Coburn’s waste reports over the last few years either.

  • sbark

    hmmm……the House at least attempted to repeal ObamaCare 37 times, and now in full hindsight there is no doubt they are 100% correct in trying to do so. Time very well spent, because after the 1st repeal attempt, it was just a new date and a quick voice vote to repeat it.
    ****
    They need to get a full scale ad campaign going with the recent Regime delay of ObamaCare to get people on board to have it nixed, purged, deleted from the entire system.
    ……and then just watch the full time employement figures start going back up…….its a no brainer except for a Liberal who loyalty is to ObamaCare 1st and the USA as a ongoing society in the bottom of his top 10.

    • WOOF

      Twerps needed their names engraved voting for repeal.
      Roll call votes.
      First 33 votes took 80 hours of the houses time.
      These guys ,when they’re in session are working a few
      half days a week.

      • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

        You say that like it’s a bad thing.

        • WOOF

          It’s Republicans saying

          ” I’m impotent and I’ve got certificates
          with my name to prove it .
          So do all my buds.”

      • sbark

        We’d have all been better off if Pelosi and Reid had taken a few days off in 08/09………….maybe just had a few beers in Barney Franks Basement gay bordello.

  • zipity

    Passing new legislation? Sure. What we need are more laws, regulations and regulators, because we all know that creates more jobs an wealth. Well, at least for the lawyers and the politically connected.

    It’s been estimated that every citizen of the U.S. commits at least one felony a day due to the explosion in laws/regulations.

    Start removing some of the onerous, needless laws/regulations, and pare the regulators down to sane levels, and then we’ll see about passing any NEW laws.

    • ellinas1

      Name ten onerous, needless laws/regulations.

      • two_amber_lamps

        I can name one onerous, needless pederast….

      • jl

        Obamacare x 10.

      • alanstorm

        Here’s four:

        Obamacare
        Bacon-Davis
        Dodd-Frank
        Sarbanes-Oxley

        Toss in some useless agencies that need to be scrapped:

        IRS
        Dept. of Energy
        Dept. of Education

        Happy now? I’ll bet some sites like the Heritage Foundation or the Cato Institute have a few more ideas.

        • ellinas1

          alanstorm: Happy now?

          Yes, I am happy now that you pointed out what in your opinion are some of the onerous, and needless laws/regulations.

      • zipity

        Here you go pin-head. Really hard to find on the old inner-tubes. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Of course, being a small minded big “L” Libtard makes you immune to common sense, so this will roll off you like water off a duck. A very, very stupid duck.

        http://blog.heritage.org/2011/12/28/top-10-worst-federal-rules-of-2011/

        • ellinas1

          I wanted to hear what you consider onerous, and needless laws/regulations,
          However you failed miserably, as you have no opinion of your own, and allow others to think for you.
          You are a mental weakling,

          • 7point62

            (You are a mental weakling,)
            Ahh E…
            You ain’t $h!t!ng us all again are ya?
            alinsky’s isolate the target and ridicule him and brand him “evil”….
            come on old greek one…Get with the “program”.
            The left has went and “moved FORWARD” to Islamic supremisim these days…Don’t ya know?

          • ellinas1

            No, I don’t know, and I ain’t shitting all o’ y’all again.

        • two_amber_lamps

          The ellinasty sez…. “quack, quack!”

  • camsaure

    Do nothing congress??? They already were allowed to pass way more damaging BS than they should have been allowed to. Be thankful they did not get to do more.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      The thing is, Congress isn’t doing a lot now, but we are still paying for the Democrat supermajority that did a lot.

      • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

        Still running with the myth of the Democratic super majority, huh rube?

        • jl

          What myth? From July 7th, 2009 to Aug. 25th, 2009, and Sept.24, 2009 to Feb. 4th, 2010. Enough damage was done in the second time frame as that was when Obamacare passed the Senate. There were 2 “independents” during that time, but they obviously almost always voted Democratic. So, yes, the Dems did have a super-majority.

          • ellinas1

            And during that time, they passed which laws?

      • camsaure

        Agreed

  • Simon

    If they’re going to “get busy” with legislative matters, they should focus on repealing the useless, senseless, overlapping and duplicative laws currently in force. That will keep them busy for years.

    • 7point62

      Add “federal agencies” to the list as well.

  • Waski_the_Squirrel

    I’m another fan of a “do nothing” congress. I’d rather see bad laws kept off the books.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      If they’re going to do something, I’d like to see them repeal some laws.

      • ellinas1

        Name 10 laws you’d like to see them repeal.

        • PK

          How about the 70,000 plus pages of tax code that nobody can obey? Does that answer your stupid question?

          • 7point62

            Pays the international oligarchy well tho, huh.

          • ellinas1

            No it does not.

            Which 70.000 pages? The first 70.000, the last 70.000, or stating from page 601 and ending in page 70.601.

            You are not being specific enough.
            I am looking for specificity, and a explanation as to how said onerous, and needless laws/regulations affect you in your everyday life.

          • PK

            Every page including the 16th Amendment. Then start over with Constitutional taxes on imports, corporations and if need be, the states themselves. How about multi-national corporations who net $50+ billion actually pay taxes, rather than getting hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in REFUNDS? Getting half of my paycheck taken by the government, so they can give it to their corporate cronies, affects my everyday life.

          • ellinas1

            Damn PK! Are you a liberal democrat?
            I agree with you 100%.

  • Clairvoyant

    Yet, us voters will be lemmings as usual in 2014 and send back the same Democrats and Republicans for the same results. Pelosi and Boehner will still be there driving us in a ditch.

    • WOOF

      The House is so tightly gerrymandered most seats are safe for the incumbent, sad for democracy.

      • jl

        Assertions aren’t facts.

        • Clairvoyant

          Looks like u got “clean side of the turd”
          syndrome

          • jl

            If what I said isn’t true, please feel free to say why.

    • PK

      Why is it so hard for people to understand that the same private interests fund both parties?

      • 7point62

        They want it to be us against them…
        Vikings against the Packers but both in the same NFC.
        They can’t believe all lifers are bought and paid for anti Constitution
        flunkys to a globalist agenda and have been for close to 100 years at least.

        • camsaure

          I agree, but I think it would be closer to an orchestrated WWF wrestling match

          • 7point62

            10X

            Smack down..
            Yep…all trash talk and bluff,
            but friends behind closed doors
            as they work for the same promoter…

          • PK

            It wasn’t a coincidence there was a group in the WWF called the New World Order.

          • 7point62

            Legitimizing the real agenda with the false…

            Old satanic twist..
            he has been doing his bidding right out in the open by mockery,
            propaganda, and calling the thing by another name…
            and the sheople line up and buy tickets for their own destruction…
            Kinda like paying taxes to the IRS for Americas destruction
            to the global elitist agendas, huh.

  • mikemc1970

    Great news! When less legislation is passed, fewer tyrannies can be passed on to US citizens.

  • 7point62

    Whittle on “dependence day” and tyranny of the government
    we allow to make us dependent upon them…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqZkTsmv4kw&feature=player_embedded

  • 7point62

    And Barry kinda likes a little ice cream when taking dang near the whole month of July of as well..

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0192abe576d2970d-pi

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/07/wth-is-he-doing.html

    • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

      Oh, look Gun Nut, here is our President speaking to the American public on the 4th of July, 2013!
      When will you stop swallowing Pam Geller’s lies?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ND4sxEdYCo

      • 7point62

        Made for TEE VEE poser boy who would be king and his “beard” family…
        How nice…did they all go for more ice cream after wards?

        • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

          Do you mean after the President spoke to the American people on the 4th of July, 2013, Gun Nut? I don’t know. What lies does liar Pam Geller want you to believe?

          And as always, English, Gun Nut, English.

          • 7point62

            Did ya check his schedule for the month of July, tool?

            No of course not…

            Just character assassinated the source/messenger again
            like your ideological daddy taught ya all to do…..

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Of course I did, Gun Nut. Only an idiot would post something that was easily proven false. Kinda like your cut and paste of the lies of liar Pam Geller.

            Because something is not listed now, doesn’t mean something is not in the planning stages, Gun Nut.

          • 7point62

            Forward into the “unknown” future, huh.
            What a classy way for a communist/muslim pre determined outcome elitist puppet to function, hey boob boy king lover.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Your idol, lying Pam, lied.

            Too bad for you, Gun Nut.

          • 7point62

            Anything right of Lenin or Stalin would be lies and suspect to you boob..

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Gun Nut, did your idol, Lying Pam, tell you the truth about our President’s 4th of July schedule?

          • 7point62

            Really boob…
            why should I listen to “you” about anything?

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Oh, I don’t know, because the people you are listing to are always wrong?

          • 7point62

            You mean they are not ideologically blind and indoctrinated dumb, right…..

          • jl

            The only lie you can catch her on is in regards to the President’s 4 July schedule? Wow. That puts her in the truth category a lot more than Obama. But she does tell the truth about radical Islam.

          • 7point62

            All you “New Left Socialist Democrats”
            (progressive ya call yourselves these days)
            are the liars or useful idiots to Americas destruction, boob…

            Check out “The intellectual godfather”
            of the 50′s and 60′s leftist communist anarchy movement…

            Former member of the Frankfurt Skool…tool….
            Who’s lying and who’s your ideological daddy lap dog…

            bark bark bark…for lucifer and his failed false enlightenment.

            http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1608

          • 7point62

            http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printindividualProfile.asp?indid=1608

            Marcuse wrote several books.
            Among his best-known early works was Eros and Civilization, his 1955 synthesis of Marxist and Freudian thought.
            Twenty-three years later he published The Aesthetic Dimension:
            Toward a Critique of Marxist Aesthetics.

            But his most famous screed, published in 1964, was One-Dimensional Man, which resonated with student leaders of the New Left in Europe and the United States. Among its assertions were these:

            “[T]his society is irrational as a whole. Its productivity is destructive of the free development of human needs and faculties, its peace maintained by the constant threat of war, its growth dependent on the repression of the real possibilities for pacifying the struggle for existence – individual, national, and international. This repression, so different from that which characterized the preceding, less developed stages of our society, operates today not tram a position of natural and technical immaturity but rather from a position of strength. The capabilities (intellectual and material) of contemporary society are immeasurably greater than ever before – which means that the scope of society’s domination over the individual is immeasurably greater than ever before. Our society distinguishes itself by conquering the centrifugal social forces with Technology rather than Terror, on the dual basis of an overwhelming efficiency and an increasing standard of living. . . . In the face of the totalitarian features of this society, the traditional notion of the “neutrality” of technology can no longer be maintained. Technology as such cannot be isolated from the use to which it is put; the technological society is a system of domination which operates already in the concept and construction of techniques.”

          • LenYol

            Wow! he spoke, big whoop! He also sat in a church for 20 years listening to anti American hate speech from a racist.

          • 7point62

            But it didn’t effect his abilities to judge the nation fairly as he wasn’t really “listening”….
            He was just their to please his beard moochelle…
            and get to know all the gay choir directors…

          • LenYol

            And Bill Ayers was just some guy in the neighborhood….who wrote a couple of books for him And Frank Marshall just wanted to teach him the way things should be.

          • 7point62

            Frank did double duty…
            Teaching communism and bi-sexuality to
            Barry boy
            of third world illuminist stealth cause,
            social justice,
            redistributive justice…….

          • LenYol

            Rumor has it that Frank also banged little barry’s mommy and could be the turds daddy.

          • 7point62

            I read that in several places before he won the Democratic nomination from team Billary….Boy, old Soros etal wanted this dual citizen poser bad for some reason, huh.

          • two_amber_lamps

            I wonder if Davis had any Greek in him? Pederasty and all….

          • LenYol

            Davis, being bi-sexual, probably had a bit of everyone in him. Ellinass probably had his mouth full of him.

          • 7point62

            I guess he was into selling pot to high school choom choom types,
            bisexual flings with married couples and white women….Just your average commie pinko pervert of the 50′s and 60′s….
            Barry’s #1 father figure don’t ya know….

          • two_amber_lamps

            “free” love… free venereal diseases… sounds right up ellinas’s back-alley.

          • 7point62

            Herbert Marcuse…
            Christianity is “repressing mankind”
            with its morals and existence…

            He was the 50′s and 60′s “make love not war” father of using polymorphous perversity to introduce the “drug culture” to marxist class warfare…Check that dude out..

            http://www.revalvaatio.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/marcuse-repressive-tolerance.pdf

            He was “all the rage” with the New Left Democrat Communists of the day..

            former Frankfurt skool member Marxist brain trust extraordinaire…

          • 7point62

            Herbert Marcuse…
            One of Barney Franks hero’s by the looks of it?

            http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1608

    • ellinas1

      What kind of public schedule did the previous presidents have?
      What? You said no different from Obama’s? Say it louder. I can’t hear you! What?
      Whatabout Pam Gellar. You believe her? Damn, Pardner! You are gullible.

      • 7point62

        No E…
        She has been dead on in most of her stuff and this isn’t about her anyway, right….It is about a poser POTUS and a POSER Congress….But you and boob just love to bark up the strawman (woman) tree of accusing the messenger….As usual….. :-)
        Ya sly old dog you…

        • ellinas1

          This is about her. One that freely and unabashedly lies, is not to be trusted.
          Pam Gellar is a fervent Zionist agitator.
          She will do anything for Israel….especially lie.
          When the messengers motives are the dissemination of propaganda, the messenger and the message need to be thoroughly scrutinized.

          • 7point62

            And liberal Alinsky leftist false moreality in the name of diversity and Marxist social justice is to be trusted WHY?
            Zioniosts are the lefts booby man evil dudes just like the evil WASP and “conservitives” here in America…Ya all got to mistrust and hate someone, huh..
            Why not the Marxist ideological deconstructive ideologies? Because they are you personal choice of lenses applied to life..

          • ellinas1

            Ba ra babam! 7.62 is on the attack.
            Like his friend Alinsky, he makes arguments and lobs unfounded accusations in order to deflect from his other friend Pamela Gellar.
            He refuses to see or acknowledge that he is spoon fed false information.
            You can take a horse to the water to drink, but you can’t make it drink…..

          • 7point62

            Funny thing about E He lines up with Bill Ayers, Soros OSI and Barry
            on the Zionist Israel’s right to exist and follows the “radical” Code Pink pro Palistinian, anti Israel propaganda….
            You can show a horses butt many true things, but it is still a blind horses butt… Stubborn old greek one…Ka boom…………. :-)

          • ellinas1

            Still on the attack, huh?
            Still railing about things not important to me.
            I am not going to defend my views, when your sources of information are shown to lie.

          • 7point62

            Ya can peel back layer after layer of the leftist stealth onion until it brings tears to the eyes with the satanic globalist agendas stink it contains,
            but ya sure can’t show the ideological brainwashed the light of Truth when they refuse to “smell it for what it really is” and call it roses and sweet perfume…

          • 7point62

            How in the world do you continue to defend the indefensible blind greek one?

            Quote du jour
            Posted:
            08 Jul 2013
            09:01 PM PDT

            This much is clear:
            The president’s policies have, by almost every objective measure, failed.
            And they have failed by his own standards,
            his own promises,
            his own words.
            What he said would happen has not;
            and the things he complained about have gotten worse.
            His incompetence in international affairs is staggering;
            and in some of these circumstances it will take years, in some cases decades, and in some cases generations to undo the damage, if we ever do.
            -Peter Wehner

          • ellinas1

            That is Peter Wehrner’s opinion.
            Who is Peter Wehrner? Why does his opinion matter more than mine?

          • 7point62

            His are based on reality and fact and yours on blinded ideological wishful thinking….
            First step in curing the problem.
            Admit there is one?

          • ellinas1

            The American Spectator disagrees with you.
            This lackey is up to no good.
            http://spectator.org/blog/2013/06/20/in-the-case-of-peter-wehner

          • 7point62

            Lucifer owns the propaganda outlets ideologically and financially..
            Jesus don’t lie…..satan does….

          • ellinas1

            If Lucifer owns the propaganda outlets, then why do you go there?

          • 7point62

            :-)
            So you got something to b!tch about….

          • ellinas1

            Well, gee.
            You love me. You really really love me.

          • 7point62

            With the Love of Christ for His Creation.

          • ellinas1

            Of course. Brotherly Christian love.

          • 7point62

            The love of God’s Creation..
            John 3:16 comes to mind..
            Jesus Loved us so much He opened up His Arms and died for us so we could gain life eternal.
            The devil has screwed with it so much even the churches and denominations are falling to the same deceptions the Jewish leaders did back in their day before Christ came to us gentiles.
            Legalism and religious tradition has blinded the end times body of believers just as before., IMO..
            If the Salt of the world loses its saltiness?
            What good is it other than to be thrown out underfoot of the world…
            Keep the Fire of the Spirit lit and flaming High old greek one as to be the light that penetrates the darkness of this worlds deceptions…
            Take Care now…

  • 7point62

    So what is Barry boy who would be king doing in the
    after glow of ducking Benghazi?

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0192abe576d2970d-pi

  • 7point62

    There is this bit of good news from the DC plantation, tho….

    Good News
    from the White House
    Concerning Pensions
    and Benefits

    نور اگر رفت سايه پيدا نيست نقش ديوار و چشم خيره
    ما نقش سايهدگر نمي دان نور اگر رفت سايه. ر رفت
    نور اگر رفت سايه پيدا نيست نقش ديوار و چشم خيره ما نقش سايهدگر نمي دان نور اگر رفت سايه. ررفت ديوار و چشم خيره ما نقش سايه دگر نمي دان نور اگر رفت سايه پيدانيست نقش ديوار و چشمخيره ماسايه
    ديوار و چشم خيره ما نقش سايه دگر نمي دان نور اگر رفت سايه پيدانيست نقش ديوار و چشم خيرهماپيدا

    نيست نقش

    If I hear
    anything else,
    I’ll let you know.

    .

  • 7point62

    You ain’t $h!t!ng me now, are ya E…. :-)
    You sure keep up to date on the third world redistributive social justice boy who would be king, comings and goings, huh..
    Dang ya on his email list?

    • two_amber_lamps

      Ellinas? Oh he s$%t’s himself all the time… does it for his own amusement even….

      “I shat in my pants from happiness.” -ellinas1

      9/22/12

    • ellinas1

      Yes sir! I am on his e-mail list.

      I do keep track of the comings and goings of the third world redistributive social justice boy who would be king.
      That way, agitators, fear mongers, pseudo-conspirators, propagandists, plain ol’ liars, and ones that make up issues where there are none are properly and truthfully refuted.

      • 7point62

        ,:-)

        And how can E do that with revisionist spin, propaganda and lies fed him on a steady liberal leftist ideological diet?

        • ellinas1

          E, does that by using his God given brain properly.

          Man of little faith. ;-)

          I do not consume anything the left or the right tries to spoon feed me.
          I make my own arguments, and reach my own conclusions. I don’t expect Pamela Gellar or any other conservative or liberal rag to tell me how to think.

          • 7point62

            :-)
            E deceives himself as when looked at from a perspective not his won, E lines up ideological liberal secular left 100% of the time…
            E cannot see the tyranist forest for all the leftist ideological trees…

          • ellinas1

            I think for myself.
            I don’t let Pam Gellar, and WND think for me.
            Deceived? It is you who is being deceived by these outfits who take advantage of you.

          • 7point62

            You can call a elitist communist olagarch a philanthropist if ya want to E.
            (stealth cause cloak)

            but by any other name the Illuminati Satanists are still what they are and bound together by leftist globalist elitist ideologies, one and all.

            Me deceived? You really should spend a little time on discoverthenetworks website and check out your stealth do gooders and their real agendas sometime, huh….

            Globalist end time agendas….

            Old skool Illuminati and Islamist money and how they buy the political power to achieve the agendas of Lucifer.
            Tsk tsk tsk…

            go figure

            http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=funder

          • ellinas1

            When something you post from a conspiracy type web site, is thoroughly refuted you move on to another conspiracy type site.Why is that? Are you trying to convince your self? Is is assurance you are looking for?
            What gives?

            PS: Do not answer this. Just think about it: How much $$$ do you spend supporting these “sources” of yours?

          • 7point62

            Like I said E….
            You just can’t see the ideological forest for all them dang trees and propaganda taken as truth…
            The devil has ya blinded by the secular false enlightenment, propaganda and delusions all ya all eat like candy every day.

          • ellinas1

            I do not read ideological books, I do not visit ideological web sites or propaganda sites to reaffirm my beliefs.
            Therefore my influences are not an ideological forest, and the devil I have rebuked just as Jesus rebuked Peter: Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a
            stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but
            merely human concerns.”

          • 7point62

            Oh I see…

            Like how ya challenge “every” conservative statement and opinion in the greek version of meekness, humility and gentleness, as you post donkey pictures and call those you disagree with liars and conspiracy loons.
            That kind of rebuking satan, just like Jesus did, huh..

          • ellinas1

            No, you don’t see.
            I only challenge that which needs to be challenged, and post the donkey dick for those that deserve it.

          • 7point62

            E is a legend in his own mind and limited understandings…

          • ellinas1

            And you….you give yourself too much credit with what is Holly.

          • 7point62

            Holly Holy night..
            Neil Diamond.
            The man who can walk upright….
            Stand firm against the wiles of the devil and he shall flee from thee……

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH924oDDDVc

          • ellinas1

            Neil Diamond cannot help you.
            You give yourself too much credit with that which if from God, but you arbitrarily deny me the same.
            Well, check this out. I claim my faith is the correct one, and yours is not. Having done that, I can, with certainty say that:
            Either lucifer has deceived you, by sending you to read writings of the wolves and his (lucifers) minions.
            Or, you are concerned too much with the secular, in which case I have to tell you this: “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

          • 7point62

            You forgot one option E…
            Maybe your religious indoctrinations have been used by lucifer to blind your heart and understanding…
            But what ever….
            “one of us” is going in the wrong direction, IMO…
            I will get thee behind E,
            but I am not satan or his disciple…

            Boob and you all got that covered quite well.
            So long old greek one..
            Have a nice life as We mutually agree to dust our feet off of one another….God Bless now, Hear?

          • ellinas1

            I don’t have “religious indoctrinations”.
            I am an Orthodox Christian by faith. therefore I have only one “indoctrination”.

            This fight/argument /debate as to who’s Christianity is the real/correct one has been going on for 20 centuries.
            We are not the first ones, nor we will be the last ones to argue over Christianity. There is nothing good in fighting over religion.Only pain, division, and constant fights.

            Remember, I once told you that we agree in 99% of the issues and have only 1% dividing us.You denied that.
            I accepted you. You rejected me.
            You cheered on Neiman, and encouraged him to continue with his verbal abuse.
            You never once defended me from the abuse heaped upon me by the likes of Amber, like a real Christian would. You acquiesced with him and others calling me a pederast, and you constantly rebuked me for defending my self.
            You accused me of being a follower of satan and everything that is wrong.
            I finally decided to abandon logic and use religion to rebuff you.
            I decided to use Neimans and your methods.
            The result? You could not stand up to what was heaped upon me.
            Your feelings got hurt, your ego got traumatized, etc. etc.
            Never thought of you as satan or his disciple.
            I used that passage to show you how it feels to be in the receiving end.
            In the end, I regret that I went against my better judgement in dealing with you. I should have stayed with logical arguments instead of religion and religious arguments.
            We don’t mutually agree to dust our feet off of one another…
            But whatever. It is you that is leaving. Not I.

          • 7point62

            (I finally decided to abandon logic and use religion to rebuff you.
            I decided to use Neimans and your methods.
            The result? You could not stand up to what was heaped upon me.
            Your feelings got hurt, your ego got traumatized, etc. etc.)
            No hurt feelings here old greek one….
            As al;ways..You project and accuse…
            Ever the liberal social justice victim…

          • Clairvoyant

            Dime Store Christ® “I finally decided to abandon logic….” You have never offered any logic in this blog. A lot of obscure, rambling references to the fringe but alas no logic. So, there isn’t really anything for you to abandon.

            But God Bless, hear?

          • 7point62

            Hey Ray.
            that was me quoting E.
            but thanks once again for sticking you foot in your mouth…
            God Bless now, HEAR?
            With Saturday ears…..

          • Clairvoyant

            oh sorry. I’m not perfect, not like your “saved” soul ;-)

          • 7point62

            Well Ray..
            Hidden in Christ, I am something wonderful..
            Here in the carnal mans flesh?
            Eh…Not so much, huh… :-)

          • Clairvoyant

            (Seeing that you enjoy my cat posts)……………. When Jesus looks at the saved list, I can assure you that my cat is further up the list than you. And to be fair, me as well. But seriously, any of us that are good faithful Christian beings, we’ll be on the list, cat or not. No need for the fire and brimstone, Bishop Sheen, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart stuff, huh. Be careful out there!

          • 7point62

            It is your opinion and I agree %100 that you are entitled to it…
            The days are indeed dark and deceptive…
            If I get in the door of Heaven?
            It is more than I deserve….

            I don’t know what a cat post is other than used for
            sharpening the claws on it…

            Seek ye first His Kingdom and all else shall be added unto thee… :-)

          • Clairvoyant

            if ya get in and not me, can ya sneak me and the kitty in through the back gate? much obliged

          • 7point62

            Jesus
            is better than Motel 6…
            He said He would keep the light on for us…
            I can’t help ya, much but He can for sure. :-)

          • 7point62

            I went over some of your posts to other folks on other threads..
            It seemed to me I agreed with ya a whole lot more than not….
            If ya ain’t my enemy, your my friend….
            Wrath is Coming…But not thru me, Ray…
            It needs to be told like it is…
            But in Love…..

          • Clairvoyant

            Agree- there is a lot of commonality there. I’ll stop being such an a$$ ;-)

          • 7point62

            Ditto here as well.
            The divide and conquer route
            has already done way to much damage to America,
            IMO.

          • 7point62

            The Born again Believer
            (such who God seeks )
            has His Assurance
            and Promise of His Inheritance

            “sealed within us”
            who have received His Promised Helper..
            We were “Purchased at the High Price of Gods Own Son”. The Lamb without Spot or Blemish.

            A personal heart felt relationship
            with the Living Jesus..

            As far as the cat goes?

            I have only heard the secular
            “all dogs go to heaven meme” ;-)
            (joke)

            God has a proven pattern of sealing His Promises in earthen vessels….

            Jeremiah 32:10-17
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            10 And I signed the deed and sealed it,
            took witnesses, and weighed the money
            on the scales.
            11 So I took the purchase deed,
            both that which was sealed according to the law and custom, and that which was open;
            12 and I gave the purchase deed to Baruch the son of Neriah, son of Mahseiah, in the presence of Hanamel my uncle’s son, and in the presence of the witnesses who signed the purchase deed, before all the Jews who sat in the court of the prison.

            13 “Then I charged Baruch before them, saying,
            14 ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts,
            the God of Israel:
            “Take these deeds, both this purchase deed which is sealed and this deed which is open, and put them in an earthen vessel, that they may last many days.”
            15 For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: “Houses and fields and vineyards shall be possessed again in this land.”’

            Jeremiah Prays for Understanding
            16 “Now when I had delivered the purchase deed to Baruch the son of Neriah,
            I prayed to the Lord, saying:

            17 ‘Ah, Lord God! Behold,
            You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm.
            There is nothing too hard for You.

            End quote

            The Promise of our inheritance
            sealed in jars of clay.
            NEW TESTAMENT

            Ephesians 1:13-14
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            13 In Him you also trusted,
            after you heard the word of truth,
            the gospel of your salvation;
            in whom also, having believed,
            you were sealed
            with the Holy Spirit of promise,
            14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance
            until the redemption of the purchased possession,
            to the praise of His glory.

          • Clairvoyant

            c’mon. it sez the 7th day is the day of rest. who’s calendar you using? Farm Implement pin-ups?

          • 7point62

            I studied on it some along time ago and came up with under the New Testament the Law was eliminated for the Born Again for the Spirit.
            I don’t remember now were the verse is but it was something about pick a day and keep it Holy.
            And we who are Born Again, have Christ 24/7 365 not just when we gather on the Day of Assembly…
            We don’t have immunity from consequence,
            but forgiveness for our sins.
            It is good to be Forgiven.. :-)

          • 7point62

            John Deere
            or some other color paint? :-)
            We had an old LA Case when I was a young lad on my grandparents farm that was a hoot to drive.
            Its road gear was flat fast.

          • ellinas1

            That was me he was quoting.
            I said that. Not 7.62

          • Clairvoyant

            yup, my bad ;-)

          • ellinas1

            I am not going to argue with you.
            How is that garden going?

          • 7point62

            (How is that garden going?)

            Good….
            we had a severe thunderstorm
            pass thru the other day.
            70 mph plus winds and aprox 3 inches
            of rain in just about an hour..
            Laid the corn over flattened almost
            everything not held up by supports.
            I thought we lost most of it.
            (me of little faith, hee hee)
            Anyway the better half told me
            to give it a few days and see what happened.
            The next day we got over another inch with no wind and now a week later?
            She’s lookin real good again .
            Creation is amazing, huh old greek one…
            Kinda like humans…God designs us to take a lickin and keep on tickin …or a small virous or disiese can put us down for the count..
            Creation (all of it) is
            “fearfully and wonderfully made”
            And this under the “sins curse” of fallen mankind..
            Can’t wait to see when “perfection comes”,
            huh.
            Eden revisited?
            Or maybe even better.

          • ellinas1

            Glad your garden survived that weather.

          • 7point62

            Me too.

          • 7point62

            Ya gotta love Neil, tho , huh… :-)

          • ellinas1

            Neil is a good artist. I enjoy his music and songs.

          • 7point62

            10X

          • 7point62

            (E, does that by using his God given brain properly.)

            A way that seems right unto a man
            but in the end leads
            to death.

            Funny thing about this E…
            The Scriptures and Holy Spirit has proven to me,
            that the mind and heart of men are the “weak links”
            in God’s plans and the strong suit for lucifer’s…

            That is why Jesus said He would send the Helper.

            go figure, huh…

            Fallen mankind and all.
            satanic secular ideologies
            that lead the blind with false worldly enlightenment. :-)

            Deception has been strong in the world since Jesus left on the
            Cloud of Glory, and getting stronger as His Return Approaches.

            God even said, He would send “strong delusion” that the lost
            would believe the lie. IMO to lesson pain when the knowledge
            of the Truth that they are left behind and are doomed.

          • 7point62

            Mornin E :-)
            This too is a day that the Lord has made.
            I will Rejoice and be glad in it.
            Bread to eat the world knows little of.
            Spiritual Food for the
            Spiritual man.

            A daily intake of Spiritual calories?

            Makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.

            Matthew 4:1-4
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            Satan Tempts Jesus

            1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
            2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry.
            3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”

            4 But He answered and said,
            “It is written,
            ‘Man shall not live by bread alone,
            but by every word that proceeds
            from the mouth of God.’

          • 7point62

            666 degrees of separation to Kevin Bacon?

            Use your God given brain this time?
            This is made for TV mass
            emotional liberalism propaganda……
            What ever happened to journalistic integrity?

            Check out the following.
            Coincidence?
            IN POLITICS…$H!T DON’T JUST HAPPEN…

            AGENDA is more like it.

            Obama ……
            just happened to know 60s far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers,
            whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers,
            who just happened to be a close friend of Obama’s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis,
            who just happened to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett,
            who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett,
            who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor,
            and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company,
            which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago,
            which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing—
            which eventually just happened to require demolition.

            Valerie Jarrett also
            just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and
            just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Mrs.Obama), who
            just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm,
            where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also
            just happened to work, and where Barack Obama
            just happened to get a summer job.

            Bernardine Dohrn
            just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she
            just happened to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who
            just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour
            just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour
            just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who
            just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama
            just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who
            just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, who
            just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who
            just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.

            Obama, Sr.
            just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which
            just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who
            just happened to be a friend of Malcolm X, who
            just happened to have been associated with the Nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, who
            just happens to live very close to Obama’s Chicago mansion, which also
            just happens to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who
            just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama, whose parents
            just happened to have no concern exposing their daughters to bomb-making communists.

            After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he
            just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that
            just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul “the Red” Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who
            just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama’s $25,000 salary at IAF
            just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund, which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company
            just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO
            just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son William Ayers
            just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.

            Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980s and
            just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who
            just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the U.S. war effort, and who
            just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which
            just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which
            just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who
            just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama’s political hatchet man, David Axelrod.

            Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who
            just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama
            just happened never to hear because he
            just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his “most enthusiastic,” and Obama
            just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and
            just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.

            Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he
            just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he
            just happened to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript called Dreams From My Father, which
            just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who
            just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama
            just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.

            Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which
            just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which
            just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm’s Judson Miner
            just happened to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.

            In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks(Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit
            just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which
            just happened to spread nationwide, and which
            just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing bubble, which
            just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.

            In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the “New Party,” which
            just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who
            just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.

            In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activities and cocaine-snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young, who
            just happened to be the gay choir director of Obama’s Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama, and Young
            just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church,
            just happened to be murdered, and both murders
            just happened to have never been solved.
            In 2008 Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and
            just happened to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who
            just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.

            In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, who
            just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas
            just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and
            just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters.
            Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers
            just happened to also attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama
            just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel “will never see a day of peace,” and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children’s dance whose performances
            just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” and there has been “genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis,” and the Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but
            just happens to refuse to make it public.

            In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate, front-runner Blair Hull
            just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod
            just happened to manage to get Hull’s sealed divorce records unsealed, which
            just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed child custody records from his divorce
            just happened to become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race, which
            just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he
            just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.

            “Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.” –Aristotle

          • ellinas1

            Ummmm, OK!

            I see you are quoting secular pagan Greek philosophers, for whom you have shown great disdain in the past.
            Why the change?

          • 7point62

            666 degrees of separation to the anti christ.

          • ellinas1

            You separated the anti christ to join Aristotle?

          • 7point62

            Barry and his “just friends” are used to help set up the end times fascist tyranist government…
            Aristotle was a man of “pagan wisdom”, huh.
            Therefore?
            Of the anti Christ as well…IMO

          • ellinas1

            Your opinion is wrong.
            He lived 350 years before Christ.
            Aristotle Born: 384 BC, Stagira, Greece
            Died: 322 BC, Euboea, Greece
            Are you jealous because he was a WGPP and not a WASP?

          • 7point62

            The Jewish Torah held the Law of God
            (Ten Commandments given Moses)
            before Jesus came and fulfilled it.

            We are still for a short time, under the (Christian)
            Spiritual Law of Grace.
            Were does
            “pre-Christian Greek paganism”
            fit in with Judeo/Christian Religious believes?

            It doesn’t any more than the Norsk paganism of trolls and fairies.
            In other words…of the devil..

            Your Greek pride and vanity should be of more concern to any
            “perceived” jealousy
            here over European Protestant vanity.

          • ellinas1

            Well, good buddy, Aristotle was under the influence of Greek Pagan Beliefs and never ever uttered, said, insinuated or wrote “Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.”

            Evangelical minister D James Kennedy, is the one who said “tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society”.
            It should be noted that Evangelical minister D James Kennedy knew about the Torah holding the law (Ten Commandments given Moses) before Jesus came and fulfilled it.
            Evangelical minister D James Kennedy is under the (Christian) Spiritual Law of Grace.

            It is evident that you were once again lied to and duped by your sources.
            When are you gonna stop believing these schmucks?
            Looks like European Protestant vanity led you once again to claim that which is not true.

            PS on this BS: This is a classic example of fake attribution to add weight to a
            modern statement – in this case, an anti-liberal slogan circulating on
            the right-wing / religious web circuit.
            God Bless and have a wonderful day.

          • 7point62

            If YOU say so E..
            Its Greek gospel…

          • 7point62

            And “meanwhile”….
            Back at the total tolerance liberal spin zone…..
            (kind of as tolerant as those jihadists, huh)
            Can you say Cloward/Piven communist overload and anarchy?
            Quote:

            What is it the left always calls the right?
            Oh yeah, “meanspirited.”

            VIDEO: “Every F***ing Cop Is A Target”

            During the justice for Trayvon Martin rally in Portland, one man tells the crowd that every 28 hours a young black person is killed by a “security guard who’s trigger happy”
            or a
            “racist who’s stalking and killing young black boys”,
            “I’m tired of waiting”,
            “Every f***ing cop is a target”,
            refers to police Captain Mark Kruger as a “target”, and proclaims
            “We need to start making moves that’ll show them we have power to force them into positions that we want them in”

            VIDEOS:
            “Make Demands Of The System & Tear It Down”

            Ridiculous lines are chanted during the march, and during the rally at the police station,
            one gentleman calls George Zimmerman a “psychopath”, calls this a
            “system of exploitation”,
            says we should “keep struggling every day”, and ends by saying we should
            “make demands of the system and tear it down”.
            This during a march and rally for Trayvon Martin in Portland, Oregon, July 13th, just a few hours after the verdict was announced.

            VIDEO:
            “More Sweeps, More Broken Windows”

            As the rally for Trayvon Martin in Portland winds down, a man at the rally says that if the police are going to do more sweeps, they need to be prepared for more broken windows.

          • 7point62

            What do ya do when Al Goracles blessed internet counterdicks itself, (as it always does)?

            Q: ‘Tolerance And Apathy Are The Last Virtues Of A Dying Society’
            A: – Aristotle
            Chacha for truth!
            See more at: http://www.chacha.com/question/did-aristotle-say-'tolerance-is-the-last-virtue-of-a-dying-civilization'#sthash.KNdEvt2U.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Gun Nut, you’re such an Alinsky devotee, you should teach a class on the rules for radicals. You could jump ahead to #5.

            You’re the best I’ve ever seen, you radical you.

          • LenYol

            And there you are doing what you accuse others of doing, you anti American turd.
            hey booob, where’s all the stimulus money and the shovel ready jobs?

          • 7point62

            When I was a young lad sitting in a tree stand,
            bow hunting and patterning the deer,
            I learned how they moved, what they ate,
            when and how the weather affected them,
            ect..ect..ect..
            Now after 25 plus years of watching and studying
            liberal communist democrats?
            I pretty much got all ya all pegged as well….

          • 7point62

            Spiritual eyes and ears fool tool…
            Stand firm…Against the wiles of the devil…..

            James 1:19-21
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            19 So then, my beloved brethren,
            let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath;

            20 for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.

            21 Therefore
            lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness,
            and receive with meekness the implanted word,
            which is able to save your souls.

          • ellinas1

            Al Goracles blessed Internet does not contradict or counterdick it self.
            You just got bum advise from Candace S. who erroneously answered this on March 26 2009, on a website that is concerned with Kim Kardashian’s ass.
            You are the only one to blame for posting info without checking it’s veracity,
            and frequenting girly websites for men.

            Candace S.
            Candace S.

            – 1572 days ago at 1:04am on Mar 26 2009
            – See more at:
            http://www.chacha.com/question/did-aristotle-say-%27tolerance-is-the-last-virtue-of-a-dying-civilization%27#sthash.IvzSyLNi.dpuf
            Candace S.

            – 1572 days ago at 1:04am on Mar 26 2009
            – See more at:
            http://www.chacha.com/question/did-aristotle-say-%27tolerance-is-the-last-virtue-of-a-dying-civilization%27#sthash.IvzSyLNi.dpuf
            Candace S.

            – 1572 days ago at 1:04am on Mar 26 2009
            – See more at:
            http://www.chacha.com/question/did-aristotle-say-%27tolerance-is-the-last-virtue-of-a-dying-civilization%27#sthash.IvzSyLNi.dpuf
            ‘Tolerance And Apathy Are The Last Virtues Of A Dying Society’ – Aristotle Chacha for truth!

            A:

            Answered

            by Candace S.

            – 1572 days ago at 1:04am on Mar 26 2009
            – See more at:
            http://www.chacha.com/question/did-aristotle-say-%27tolerance-is-the-last-virtue-of-a-dying-civilization%27#sthash.IvzSyLNi.dpuf
            ‘Tolerance And Apathy Are The Last Virtues Of A Dying Society’ – Aristotle Chacha for truth!

            A:

            Answered

            by Candace S.

            – 1572 days ago at 1:04am on Mar 26 2009
            – See more at:
            http://www.chacha.com/question/did-aristotle-say-%27tolerance-is-the-last-virtue-of-a-dying-civilization%27#sthash.IvzSyLNi.dpuf

          • 7point62

            (,and frequenting girly websites for men)

            don’t get testy now…
            that’s not meek
            or tolerant of you…
            rather “judgemental and dickish) :-)

          • ellinas1

            I am not getting testy.
            After visiting the web site through the link you send me, I got hard. :-)

          • 7point62

            Your a sick old man… :-)

          • 7point62

            damn WASP’s…

          • 7point62

            to back up my opinion?
            Check out verse 22.

            1 John 2:21-23

            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth,
            but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

            22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ?
            He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

            23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either;
            he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

          • ellinas1

            It does not back up your opinion.
            Aristotle never ever denied that Jesus is the Christ.

          • 7point62

            Did he claim Salvation thru the Jews?

          • ellinas1

            No, but the fact is that he never ever denied that Jesus is the Christ.
            How does one claim salvation through the Jews?

          • 7point62

            Christ came to His own as promised in the Torah.
            They knew Him not as they were expecting Him as “The Lion of the Tribe of Judah”.
            The way He will come the Second Time…
            Salvation for the “gentiles” (you and me)
            came thru the Jews (Jesus)and we “gentiles”
            will be grafted into the Tree of Life Promised the faithful of the Old Testament thru Christ..

          • 7point62

            What ya going to believe E?
            Honey from the Rock of Truth.
            Or satan’s ideological deceptions and lies?

            Psalm 81:14-16
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            14 I would soon subdue their enemies,
            And turn My hand against their adversaries.

            15 The haters of the Lord would pretend submission to Him,
            But their fate would endure forever.

            16 He would have fed them also with the finest of wheat;
            And with honey from the rock I would have satisfied you.”

          • ellinas1

            I believe the truth.
            The truth is you have been deceived by satan and his minions to believe that the Greek Pagan Philosopher said “Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.”
            Truth is that Evangelical minister D James Kennedy, is the one who said “tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society”.
            You can post the Whole Holy Bible if you want/wish, but it will change nothing.
            Once again you were deceived/duped by the agents of hatred and liars.

          • 7point62

            Nah..
            ypu ain’t $h!t!ing me now, are ya E…
            Old meek greek, one….
            that evil WASP got your dander up? :-)
            Humility is a virtue..
            Or is that as well a WASP lie?

          • ellinas1

            Yeah!
            The WASP minister called as he saw it.
            Humility is a virtue.
            Recognizing and admitting one’s errors is also a virtue.Confessing that you have been again misled by your sources will go a long way establishing your humility and credibility.

          • 7point62

            I am not misled…
            That leaves you.

          • ellinas1

            You are/were not misled? Wow!
            Man, you got nerve.
            If you are/were not misled, Aristotle must have said “Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.”

            Since he has not said it, and you have posted it, your source either misled you or more accurately lied to you.

          • 7point62

            Once again E..
            You pick out one single thing I am
            talking about and trash it all…I never have claimed to be “perfect” like a greek god, just that I can see how a lot of things tie together as many small things add up to an ideological agenda.
            I will concede this single point about Aristotle that has little or nothing to do with the context of my larger opinions and insights…
            Are ya happy now?
            Or ya still want to keep throwing the baby out with the bath water because ya found a fly in it?
            When you focus on the single details of all my posts that you find fault with,”mostley right wing sources” so ya just can’t see what the whole of the opinion was about……
            To narrow of a focus on some things and a total shot gun spray on others…
            :-0

          • ellinas1

            I have never considered you, nor do I expect you to be perfect.
            I do expect you to question the veracity of your sources, when it was and has been pointed to you that those sources are either lying or misleading you.
            I will focus on your sources when time and again I have found that they are spoon feeding you lies. No way around it.
            You do the same sheet all the time.

            You do get your info from mostly right wing sources, do you not?
            I cannot blame Huffpo when Pamela Gellar is lying to you.

          • 7point62

            Did he preach marxist social justice
            false morality like you?

          • ellinas1

            He did not, and neither do I.
            He also never posted a lie for a fact on any known blog or any book that he wrote.
            You should read some of his writings.

          • 7point62

            Naw…
            You got all that greek stuff
            covered for all of us, huh.

          • ellinas1

            Yeah……Buddy! I got you covered, for all that Greek stuff you don’t know.

          • 7point62

            I prefer the covering of the Blood of Jesus, but thanks anyway. :-)
            Had my first “garden meal” tonight..
            baby fresh potatoes and carrots along with onions
            cooked in butter in tin foil tents off the grill
            along with a rib eye……
            Mmmm good…
            I will pick a few peas tomorrow if the tornado warnings tonight don’t wipe us out…
            (garden)

          • ellinas1

            Please show, where in the apocalypse it mentions about a US president helping set up the end times fascist tyranist government.

          • 7point62

            Many “types of anti christs” (pre cursers)
            have already been at work in the world.

            They spread
            “lucifers ideologies of secular and worldly deceptions”
            as TRUTH…

            From the rise of the global government will come the “real deal”..
            Those global governance structures are now in place.

            Waiting for the anti christ to seize the reigns of power his
            underlings have built for him.

            1 John 2:17-19
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it;
            but he who does the will of God abides forever.

            Deceptions of the Last Hour

            18 Little children, it is the last hour;
            and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming,
            even now many antichrists have come,
            by which we know that it is the last hour.
            19 They went out from us, but they were not of us;
            for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us;
            but they went out that they might be made manifest,
            that none of them were of us.

          • 7point62

            The TRUTH will set you free, E.
            Honey from the Rock of Truth……………….

            Jesus said:

            “I AM the Truth the Way and the Life”.

            Psalm 81:14-16
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            14 I would soon subdue their enemies,
            And turn My hand against their adversaries.

            15 The haters of the Lord would pretend submission to Him,
            But their fate would endure forever.

            16 He would have fed them also with the finest of wheat;
            And with honey from the rock I would have satisfied you.”

      • 7point62

        When ya going to quit giving these communist muslims a pass and get out of jail free card E?

        If ya can’t see it for what it is, your hopeless…

        EVERYONE connected to this POSER and his administration are anti American leftists…
        QUOTE:

        Radical family ties

        However, the Times did not report any of Jarrett’s radical family connections.

        Regarding Jarrett’s mother, the Times says only that “her mother had a Chicago street named after her for her work in early childhood education.”

        As WND was first to report, Jarrett’s mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, founded an education initiative alongside Ayers’ family that was funded by Ayers, Obama and ultimately the 2009 “stimulus” legislation.

        The Chicago school, the Erikson Institute, focuses on training people who work in early childhood development.

        Besides founding Erikson, Bowman was president of the institute from 1994 to 2001 and served as the school’s Irving B. Harris professor of child development.

        One of the Erikson Institute’s former trustees and members of the executive committee is the late Thomas Ayers, father of Bill Ayers.

        Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers’ wife, also served on the Erikson board.

        In his 1998 book, “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court,” Bill Ayers calls Jarrett’s mother, Bowman, a “neighbor and a friend.”

        Obama and Bill Ayers once funded Erikson together. The Erikson Institute was among the first 35 school partnerships awarded funds in December 1995 by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers was a founder of the Annenberg Challenge; Obama was hired in 1995 as the group’s first chairman.

        In 2009, Erickson was awarded just shy of $5 million from Obama’s so-called stimulus legislation.

        Frank Marshall Davis connection

        The Times profile briefly mentions Jarrett’s grandfather and father but not her father-in-law, who may have been instrumental in introducing her to Obama and who himself is tied to the president.

        The profile states her grandfather, Robert Taylor, “built much of Chicago’s public housing,” while “her father was a pioneering doctor.”

        The Times reported Obama and Valerie Jarrett “met more than two decades ago, when Ms. Jarrett – a lawyer, like both Obamas – offered Mrs. Obama a job in the Chicago mayor’s office.”

        However, Jarrett may have been introduced to the Obamas through her father-in-law, a communist sympathizer who worked with Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis, as WND was first to report.

        Jarrett’s father-in-law, Vernon Jarrett, was an associate of Frank Marshall Davis, the controversial Communist Party activist who has been identified as an early influence on Obama.

        Vernon Jarrett and Davis worked together in 1940 in a Communist Party-dominated organization, the Citizen’s Committee to Aid Packing House Workers. The group’s own correspondence, previously uncovered by the New Zeal blog, describes its communist influence. Many of its leaders were tied to the Communist Party.

        The pair also frequented the South Side Community Art Center, which was dominated by communists. In addition, Davis and Vernon Jarrett worked in the late 1940s on the communist-influenced, black-run Chicago Defender newspaper.

        In 1948, Jarrett started a radio show, “Negro Newsfront,” and went on to become the Chicago Tribune’s first black syndicated columnist.

        A Washington Post obituary of Vernon Jarrett notes he “stoked the political embers in Chicago that led to the 1983 election of the city’s first African-American mayor, Harold Washington.”

        “Vernon Jarrett was a key influence in Washington’s decision to run for the Chicago mayoralty and remained a key supporter through his four-year tenure,” the newspaper reported.

        Obama has hailed Washington’s victory as a motivation for him to move to Chicago from New York. Washington was involved in communist-dominated circles in Chicago.

        Vernon Jarrett clearly watched the rise of Obama as an activist. When Obama worked for Project Vote to register black voters with the intent of aiding the senatorial campaign of Carol Moseley Braun, Jones took note. Obama later took over Braun’s Senate seat.

        Writing in the Chicago Sun-Times in 1992, Jarrett said: “Good news! Good news! Project Vote, a collectivity of 10 church-based community organizations dedicated to black voter registration, is off and running. … If Project Vote is to reach its goal of registering 150,000 out of an estimated 400,000 unregistered blacks statewide, ‘it must average 10,000 rather than 7,000 every week,’ says Barack Obama, the program’s executive director.”

        Valerie Jarrett married Vernon’s son, William Robert Jarrett, in 1983.

        In 1987, she got her start in politics, working for Washington as deputy corporation counsel for finance and development. She was deputy chief of staff for Mayor Richard Daley, during which time she hired Michelle Robinson, who then was engaged to Obama.

        Valerie Jarrett went on to run the finances for Obama’s successful Senate bid in 2004, the year Vernon Jarrett died.

        Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/new-york-times-profile-scrubs-valerie-jarretts-radical-ties/#VTGlg6LmoWZe4XKy.99

        • ellinas1

          Child psychologist Maria Piers, social worker Lorraine Wallach, and
          educator and activist Barbara Taylor Bowman — launched the institute
          with the support of businessman and philanthropist Irving B. Harris in 1964.

          A lot of conspiracy theory. Tsk Tsk!

          • 7point62

            :-)

            Oh great greek oracle of secular wisdom and spin. Check the officle greek orthodox version for conformation on the difference between Spiritual understandings and secular propaganda, huh….Tsk tsk tsk..

            Ephesians 3:14-21
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            Appreciation of the Mystery

            14 For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

            15 from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

            16 that He would grant you,
            according to the riches of His glory,
            to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man,

            17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love,

            18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height—

            19 to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

            20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,

            21 to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

          • ellinas1

            After checking with the oracle, one thing is abundantly clear to me.
            You waver, vacillate and oscillate between the spiritual and the secular with great ease.

            From the prayer you posted I will post this nugget and hopefully it means the same in the Orthodox version and your preferred NKJV.

          • 7point62

            What?
            No donkey picture?
            Who wavers from secular to Spiritual old greeek one?

          • ellinas1

            No, no donkey picture.
            It is not appropriate or desirable during our conversation.

            It is you, who waivers vacillates and oscillates between the spiritual and the secular.

          • 7point62

            That is your mis perception once again E.
            Pointing out where the anti Christ has the secular world doing his spiritual business is not wavioring or oscillating.

          • ellinas1

            Your perception of where the anti Christ has the secular world doing his spiritual business is misplaced and wrong.
            It is the Pam Gellars of this world that lead you away form the Light.

          • 7point62

            :-)

            And who is E?

            That “his opinion and perspective”
            should override my own,
            and what the Holy Ghost has shown me thru
            (non greek orthodox) Scripture over the last 25 or so years…….

            It is what it is old greek one…

            Who do you Love.
            Who do ya Trust…

            Would the Father give a child
            an evil gift when the child is
            “seeking Thy Kingdom come,
            Thy Will be done”?????

            Luke 11:1-13
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            The Model Prayer

            1 Now it came to pass,
            as He was praying in a certain place,
            when He ceased,
            that one of His disciples said to Him,
            “Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.”

            2 So He said to them, “When you pray, say:

            Our Father in heaven,
            Hallowed be Your name.
            Your kingdom come.]
            Your will be done
            On earth as it is in heaven.
            3 Give us day by day our daily bread.
            4 And forgive us our sins,
            For we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.
            And do not lead us into temptation,
            But deliver us from the evil one.”

            A Friend Comes at Midnight

            5 And He said to them, “Which of you shall have a friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves;
            6 for a friend of mine has come to me on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him’;
            7 and he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give to you’?
            8 I say to you, though he will not rise and give to him because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will rise and give him as many as he needs.

            Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

            9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
            10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
            11 If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish?
            12 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
            13 If you then, being evil,
            know how to give good gifts to your children,
            how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

          • ellinas1

            E is someone that has traveled the world, been exposed to may religions, cultures and political systems.
            E studied human behaviour from many angles and perspectives, and he still does.
            E knows that even though your NKJV is a translation of the Bible that was written in the Greek language, is accurate your interpretation of it leaves a lot to be desired and is not accurate by a long shot.
            E knows that those that profess that the Holy Spirit guides them, have been misled by the devil.
            What good is it to quote the Bible for one’s political ends?

            E knows that the secular and the spiritual are a potent mix for error.

          • 7point62

            E knows the world…
            E knows little about the Helper…..

          • ellinas1

            What good is it to quote the Bible for one’s political ends?

          • 7point62

            You misread me “all” the time E…
            Political ends?
            That is a carnal mans game.
            From the global world of politics the beast shall arise…..
            666 will be his global mark to do any and all transactions…
            I am just telling folks we have the “structures” in place
            as the end is nearer now than ever before…
            I believe in free will choice…
            But INFORMED free will choice..
            This earthly realm is not my HOME..

          • ellinas1

            Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will
            come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. You
            will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not
            alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation
            will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be
            famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning
            of birth pains.

          • 7point62

            But We have agreed to let go.
            Don’t hold on now old greek one…
            SEEK YE FIRST HIS KINGDON.
            to remove those religious scales that blind, now ,
            Hear?
            Are you going to get the last word (again), E?

          • 7point62

            The illuminati communist progressive global new world order controls philanthropy these days in case ya don’t know.

            http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=funder

          • ellinas1

            In case you didn’t know, WND was WRONG to report, Jarrett’s mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, founded an education initiative alongside Ayers’ family that was funded by Ayers, Obama and ultimately the 2009 “stimulus” legislation.

            Since ya don’t know, I have to inform you that.it was not the AYERS family but psychologist Maria Piers, social worker Lorraine Wallach, and educator and activist Barbara Taylor Bowman —who launched the institute with the support of businessman and philanthropist Irving B. Harris in 1964.

          • 7point62

            Ya sure don’t know how to peel a liberal philanthropist onion, huh….
            Deception is the devils strong suit and all ya all liberals play right into his strengths.

          • ellinas1

            I have been peeling onions liberal and otherwise for a long time.
            Along the way, I learned how to avoid and nullify the tears that some onions bring.

          • 7point62

            So do we dare say it?
            You have developed a hardened ideological heart.

          • ellinas1

            No. I have a kind heart.

          • 7point62

            Just not circumcised by the Holy Spirit into the Promises of God thru Christ.

          • ellinas1

            Paul the Apostle put the issue of circumcision to rest by declaring there is no need to be circumcised.

          • 7point62

            Now check the official greek text on
            Spiritual Circumcision of the Born Again Believers heart…..
            Done not with the hands of man,
            but by the Spirit if God.

            Strangers to the commonwealth of Israel,
            But brought into the Promises/Covenants
            of God to them.

            Spiritual things?
            Are Spiritually discerned……

            Ephesians 2
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            By Grace Through Faith

            1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
            2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
            3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

            4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
            5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
            6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
            7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
            8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
            9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
            10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

            Brought Near by His Blood

            11 Therefore remember that you,
            once Gentiles in the flesh—
            who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands—
            12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.

            13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

          • 7point62

            Jesus Christ…
            King of kings
            And Lord of lords….

            The same yesterday.
            today and Forever.

            A Spiritual Baptism written upon the
            tablet no longer of stone….
            But of the Born Again Believers heart…

            Proverbs 3:2-4
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            2 For length of days and long life
            And peace they will add to you.

            3 Let not mercy and truth forsake you;
            Bind them around your neck,
            Write them on the tablet of your heart,

            4 And so find favor and high esteem
            In the sight of God and man.

            2 Corinthians 3:2-4
            New King James Version
            (NKJV)

            2 You are our epistle written in our hearts,
            known and read by all men;
            3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ,
            ministered by us,
            written not with ink
            but by the Spirit of the living God,
            not on tablets of stone
            but on tablets of flesh,
            that is, of the heart.

            The Spirit,
            Not the Letter

            4 And we have such trust
            through Christ toward God.

          • ellinas1

            If this is an answer to what I said, you lost me.

          • 7point62

            That is what I been tellin ya E..
            Your spiritual blind and lost……………………
            SEEK YE FIRST HIS KINGDOM…
            And all these things will be added unto thee….
            Earthly minded and blinded by “religion”
            does not a Spiritual Circumcised heart make.

          • 7point62

            SATIRE?
            Well the spin machine is in high gear…

            Urban legends at least says, no..
            Barry didn’t do it….

            Whether he did or not?
            The leftist mentors and ideologies he follows sure have
            this attitude.

            Description: Fake news / Satire
            Circulating since: July 2013
            Status: FALSE (see details below)

            Text example:
            As posted on Facebook, July 5, 2013:

            Obama on 4th of July: “I can’t believe I have to miss a good day of golf for this crap!”

            by Michael Madshack, DP Assistant Editor

            Thursday, July 4th, 2013,

            (WASHINGTON) — A “hot mic” has apparently picked up some very unflattering words from President Obama this Fourth of July, and may plunge him deeper into some very hot water.

            “Hot” or “open mics” frequently catch public figures unknowingly expressing their true feelings, usually with colorful language (prime example: in 2000, then presidential candidate George W. Bush was caught complaining to vice-presidential candidate Dick Cheney that a reporter covering their campaign was a “major league asshole”). However Obama’s “slip” while exiting the balcony of the White House after his fifth Independence Day address may well exceed the average “hot mic faux pas.”

            The smaller of Obama’s two microphones, which was clipped inches below Obama’s shirt collar, was supposed to have been turned off immediately after his closing remarks to guests and reporters on the White House lawn. But the microphone remained “hot,” catching the President muttering: “God, this holiday sucks! All this national pride shit get’s on my nerves.”

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Gun Nut, I thought you said the Illuminate were Fascist Socialists.

            Did they do the old switcherro last night?

          • 7point62

            Your first mistake boob is thinking you understand anything I post…

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            That, Gun Nut, is a problem most of us have.
            Congratulations on your improving English skills, Gun Nut.

          • 7point62

            Congratulations on the continued intellectual ideological scales over your eyes and understanding that keeps you from anything true or real boob.

  • 7point62

    ALL IN THE CPUSA FAMILY, DC STYLE…
    quote:

    The Passing Scene
    By: Dennis M. Patrick
    Date: July 5, 2013

    VALERIE WHO?
    Valerie Jarrett’s fingerprints are all over the announcement issued
    Tuesday, July 3, 2013, delaying Obamacare implementation. The Washington
    publication “The Hill” reported on July 5 that “The Obamas’ close friend
    and senior advisor Valerie Jarrett from Chicago days apparently was the
    major influence in delaying the Obamacare employer mandate.”
    It was Jarrett who announced in a White House blog post that
    businesses would be given until January 2015 to comply with the employer
    mandate. Meanwhile the administration will draft simpler reporting rules
    with help from the private sector. Businesses with more than 50
    employees now have an additional year before being required to offer
    expensive insurance or face severe penalties.
    Who is Valerie Jarrett? Every Obama supporter knows — or should
    know. She is the impetus behind the Obama administration. In executing
    her duties, she would do Rasputin proud.
    Jarrett’s role as senior advisor and assistant to the president for
    Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs (a position made for and
    designed by Jarrett) is to keep the president on the straight and narrow
    and true to his earliest liberal beliefs. Her job includes protecting
    Obama from Blue Dog Democrats, moderates and pragmatists.
    “We have a kind of mind meld.” (Her words, not mine.) “And chances
    are what he wants to do is what I want to do.”
    Jarrett is essentially unknown and accountable only to the
    president. The Obama’s and Jarrett prefer it that way. To the president
    she is indispensable.
    It was Michelle who first introduced Barack to Valerie twenty years
    ago when Valerie worked for Chicago’s Mayor Daley and the former
    Michelle Robinson worked for the Chicago law firm Sidley Austin.
    Jarrett is second only to Michelle as the power behind the
    presidency and all are content to keep it that way. With his consent,
    Jarrett orchestrates Obama’s liberal, progressive and left-of-center
    policies.
    The Obama and Jarrett families interacted for years. Valerie’s
    mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, helped establish the Erikson Institute
    specializing in child advocacy. The Institute received considerable
    funding from the Woods Charitable Foundation. In later years the Woods
    Foundation’s board of directors included Bill Ayers and Barack Obama.
    Valerie’s maternal grandmother was from Berkeley, California, and
    active in Planned Parenthood. Evidently she was undeterred by its racial
    eugenics.
    In 1983, Valerie married Dr. William Robert Jarrett. Bill Jarrett’s
    father, Vernon Jarrett, was a notable leftist columnist favored in the
    Chicago media. In the 1940s Vernon served on the Citizens’ Committee to
    Aid Packing-House Workers together with Frank Marshall Davis, a very
    active Communist Party USA (CPUSA) member who had mentored Barack Obama
    in Hawaii. Vernon headed up the publicity committee and Frank was one of
    the chairmen. After his death in 1987 the FBI released Frank’s file
    including his CPUSA number — 47544.
    There is more. Valerie Jarrett’s maternal grandfather, Robert
    Rochon Taylor, was intimately involved with the notorious Communist
    front group, the American Peace Mobilization (APM), created in 1940 by
    the Soviet Comintern with the help of CPUSA. Congress acknowledged the
    APM was “one of the most notorious and blatantly Communist fronts ever
    organized in this country.” Listed together in surviving documents of
    the APM are the names Frank Marshall Davis and Robert Taylor. This
    identifies them squarely with the activist hard left.
    Being raised in a leftist environment, Jarrett’s case is more a
    case of guilt by indoctrination than guilt by association. Today we have
    the godson of Frank Davis (Barack Obama) and the daughter-in-law of
    Vernon Jarrett and granddaughter of Robert Taylor (Valerie Jarrett),
    descendants of pro-Stalinists, running the executive branch of
    government. Amazingly, all of this escaped the vetting process by the
    mainstream media.
    To assume that Obama is ignorant or incompetent is to dangerously
    underestimate his administration. He knows what he is doing, how to get
    there and who to employ. He depends heavily on the counsel of his
    like-minded people.
    Of the three top advisors to President Obama, only Jarrett remains.
    Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod returned to Chicago while Jarrett stayed
    with the president to consolidate her influence.
    Jarrett’s influence extends to all executive departments and
    agencies and beyond. Everyone in Obama’s administration bows to Jarrett.
    On Wednesday, July 3, the IRS website portion announcing information
    about the Obamacare mandates read simply, “Updated questions and answers
    will be posted soon. Please check back.” The IRS is trying to figure out
    how next to accommodate Jarrett.
    Obamacare was forced on the American people and Jarrett is Obama’s
    enforcer. Obama chooses which laws he will enforce and which laws to
    ignore. Let’s hear no comments comparing Obama’s imperial presidency
    with other administrations. There is no equivalency between the noxious
    Soviet-style behavior of the Obama régime and the benign behavior of
    previous administrations.

  • Ratbite

    If only they’d do much less especially when it comes to spending.

  • 7point62

    When are folks going to wake up
    from this communist/muslim deception?
    QUOTE:

    Radical family ties

    However, the Times did not report any of Jarrett’s radical family connections.

    Regarding Jarrett’s mother, the Times says only that “her mother had a Chicago street named after her for her work in early childhood education.”

    As WND was first to report, Jarrett’s mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, founded an education initiative alongside Ayers’ family that was funded by Ayers, Obama and ultimately the 2009 “stimulus” legislation.

    The Chicago school, the Erikson Institute, focuses on training people who work in early childhood development.

    Besides founding Erikson, Bowman was president of the institute from 1994 to 2001 and served as the school’s Irving B. Harris professor of child development.

    One of the Erikson Institute’s former trustees and members of the executive committee is the late Thomas Ayers, father of Bill Ayers.

    Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers’ wife, also served on the Erikson board.

    In his 1998 book, “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court,” Bill Ayers calls Jarrett’s mother, Bowman, a “neighbor and a friend.”

    Obama and Bill Ayers once funded Erikson together. The Erikson Institute was among the first 35 school partnerships awarded funds in December 1995 by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers was a founder of the Annenberg Challenge; Obama was hired in 1995 as the group’s first chairman.

    In 2009, Erickson was awarded just shy of $5 million from Obama’s so-called stimulus legislation.

    Frank Marshall Davis connection

    The Times profile briefly mentions Jarrett’s grandfather and father but not her father-in-law, who may have been instrumental in introducing her to Obama and who himself is tied to the president.

    The profile states her grandfather, Robert Taylor, “built much of Chicago’s public housing,” while “her father was a pioneering doctor.”

    The Times reported Obama and Valerie Jarrett “met more than two decades ago, when Ms. Jarrett – a lawyer, like both Obamas – offered Mrs. Obama a job in the Chicago mayor’s office.”

    However, Jarrett may have been introduced to the Obamas through her father-in-law, a communist sympathizer who worked with Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis, as WND was first to report.

    Jarrett’s father-in-law, Vernon Jarrett, was an associate of Frank Marshall Davis, the controversial Communist Party activist who has been identified as an early influence on Obama.

    Vernon Jarrett and Davis worked together in 1940 in a Communist Party-dominated organization, the Citizen’s Committee to Aid Packing House Workers. The group’s own correspondence, previously uncovered by the New Zeal blog, describes its communist influence. Many of its leaders were tied to the Communist Party.

    The pair also frequented the South Side Community Art Center, which was dominated by communists. In addition, Davis and Vernon Jarrett worked in the late 1940s on the communist-influenced, black-run Chicago Defender newspaper.

    In 1948, Jarrett started a radio show, “Negro Newsfront,” and went on to become the Chicago Tribune’s first black syndicated columnist.

    A Washington Post obituary of Vernon Jarrett notes he “stoked the political embers in Chicago that led to the 1983 election of the city’s first African-American mayor, Harold Washington.”

    “Vernon Jarrett was a key influence in Washington’s decision to run for the Chicago mayoralty and remained a key supporter through his four-year tenure,” the newspaper reported.

    Obama has hailed Washington’s victory as a motivation for him to move to Chicago from New York. Washington was involved in communist-dominated circles in Chicago.

    Vernon Jarrett clearly watched the rise of Obama as an activist. When Obama worked for Project Vote to register black voters with the intent of aiding the senatorial campaign of Carol Moseley Braun, Jones took note. Obama later took over Braun’s Senate seat.

    Writing in the Chicago Sun-Times in 1992, Jarrett said: “Good news! Good news! Project Vote, a collectivity of 10 church-based community organizations dedicated to black voter registration, is off and running. … If Project Vote is to reach its goal of registering 150,000 out of an estimated 400,000 unregistered blacks statewide, ‘it must average 10,000 rather than 7,000 every week,’ says Barack Obama, the program’s executive director.”

    Valerie Jarrett married Vernon’s son, William Robert Jarrett, in 1983.

    In 1987, she got her start in politics, working for Washington as deputy corporation counsel for finance and development. She was deputy chief of staff for Mayor Richard Daley, during which time she hired Michelle Robinson, who then was engaged to Obama.

    Valerie Jarrett went on to run the finances for Obama’s successful Senate bid in 2004, the year Vernon Jarrett died.

    Read more at http:
    //www.wnd.com/2013/07/new-york-times-profile-scrubs-valerie-jarretts-radical-ties/#VTGlg6LmoWZe4XKy.99

    • ellinas1

      Six degrees of separation.

      Kevin Bacon Linked To Al-Qaeda

      http://www.theonion.com/articles/kevin-bacon-linked-to-alqaeda,37/

    • ellinas1

      When are folks going to wake up
      from this communist/muslim deception?

      QUOTE:Desperate to bring the terrorist organization to justice, the U.S.
      government began looking at Bacon about three months ago. “We heard that
      almost everyone in the world is somehow connected through Mr. Bacon, so
      we hired some avid fans (of Mr. Bacon) and put them to work, trying to
      connect him to Al Qaeda” said White House spokesman Ari Fleischer at a
      press conference held Monday. “Damned if we didn’t find a connection,
      and now we are very anxious to talk to Mr. Bacon and see exactly what it
      is that he knows.”

      The assembled team discovered the following link just last week:

      1.Kevin Bacon starred in “She’s Having a Baby”, which also featured Alec
      Baldwin. 2. Alec Baldwin starred in “Malice”, which also featured
      actress Nicole Kidman. 3. Nicole Kidman starred in “Dead Calm”, which
      also starred actor Billy Zane. 4. Billy Zane starred in Titanic, which
      chronicled the untimely death of thousands of innocent civilians 5.
      Thousands of innocent civilians were killed in the terrorist attacks of
      last September 6. The terrorist attacks of last September were carried
      out by the terrorist group Al Qaeda.

      When asked if the governmentwould also be questioning other celebrities and actors that appear in the link, Fleischer responded “No. No one else is under investigation at
      this time. That is not how the game is played. The game is played by
      connecting Mr. Bacon to others, which is why we want him (Bacon). If the
      game was called ‘Six Degrees of Billy Zane’, then of course we would
      want to speak to Mr. Zane. But that’s not (what the game is called).” At
      press time, Kevin Bacon was not yet in custody, and had recently issued
      a press release calling the accusations “absurd”. Several journalists
      and middle east experts agreed that it is unlikely that Bacon knows
      anything about terrorist activities. ABC newsman Sam Donaldson likened
      the chance that Bacon is linked to Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden to the
      probability of the actor’s singing career taking off. “There’s no way in
      hell that either is very likely”.

      • 7point62

        666 degrees the mark of all of secular fallen mankind…
        Your point?

        • ellinas1

          My point is that these ministers of lucifer are deceiving you.

          PS: have you sent your financial contribution to WND so they can continue to spoon feed you lies?

          http://superstore.wnd.com/CUSTOMER-SERVICE

          • 7point62

            NO more projection and lies now E…

            Be gone….We have parted amicably? :-)

            Irreconcilable differences is what we
            “must” put on the divorce decree.
            For the sake of boob, dacktacyr,
            hanniturd,, and the rest of your secular
            like minded brood.

          • ellinas1

            No. I will not go, nor will I sign any divorce papers.
            You may be a quitter…..I am not.
            The differences may be irreconcilable, but are not sufficient to warrant a divorce decree.

          • 7point62

            Not even for the liberal:
            “For the sake of the children”?
            Ok…
            But those secular earthly double minded kids
            are all yours, huh. :-)
            A man asked another man he knew…
            Say…How is your wife and my kids?
            The man replied:
            “The wife is doing fine,
            The kids?
            Retarded” !

          • ellinas1

            Heh, heh!

  • nmgene

    Congress has done its work, its harry reid pelosi and the rest of the damocrat Senate that are blocking everything. Harry Reid, Pelosi should both be arrested for treason. Tried, convicted and publicly hung along with obumer and biden.

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