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About time. I appreciate different opinions, but she was too often out of line.

After what happened to Jeff this weekend, we all may have to start stopping commenters at some point.  I appreciate your need for this and applaud you for being open to commenters no matter their stance.

This is the second commenter in a very short list (minus the 3.4 bazillion spam comments) who has been banned for threatening to make trouble in someone’s workplace.

to diane - it wasn’t nice knowing you. Your presence is disgusting, your demeanor appalling, and your outlook disturbing. You came here with a flurry of insults, anti-American and anti-troop rants, an amateur style, and a habit of patting yourself on the back for arguments that you were losing!

Since you are no longer welcome at this site, I do have a couple of suggestions for you. I imagine that you could spend a couple of hours here and when you are done sharpening your mind there, you could head on over to Daily Kos. There you’ll find plenty of people who share your view of an evil America controlled by the “NeoCons” as you call them.

In closing, goodbye and good riddance!

The ironic thing here is that she was probably lying about her correspondence with that employer.  She had his name wrong, and the “secretary” she engaged never corrected her, which I find unbelieveable.  No matter.  Her monomania had become boring.

Now SA is like crawling into bed right after clean warm sheets have been pulled from the dryer.

Ahhhh....

Robert, she was probably bluffing...but I’m not taking the chance.

That sort of thing has no place in this forum.  I’ll tolerate name-calling and everything else, but not threats.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I agree with your decision.

Of course, now you’ve got to asterisk the title:

SayAnything*

*usually

Tough Call Rob, But I’m with you.

I defended her but ignored her. 

Crossing an invisible line wherever it is must be stopped.  One can never sanction incompetence or deviance by our silence.

We’ll all get over it.  That’ was the lao Tse solution.  Pull one out of line from time to time and well.... you know.

Behave or else.

If you think about it, we all put up with a great deal for a long time.  We hope that it doesn’t come to this.  I want the other voice.  That’s why I appreciate Puzzle and RBB.  Other voice without being vicious.

Now if I could just spell.

Rob: You did the right thing.  I’m going to miss her in one way, though.  She was like a chew toy for me, if you know what I mean.  It’s hard to find someone that nutty who will sustain a conversation.

Whew… I feel like I’m home again! To be honest, I’ve been away for awhile because I just couldn’t stand every single topic becoming a dhiane rant. I had to take a break, for sanity’s sake!

That said, Diane is out of control, and your decision to ban her is a good one.

Differing opinions are a good thing… I may not always (OK, just about never!) agree with Dave, but at least he can hold a conversation without shrill yet banal at the same time!

Adios, Dhiane!

Oops. “Without becoming shrill yet banal.”

Heh.

Rob, You’re my hero!

It smells a lot nicer here now.  My nose was staring to hurt.

Rob: I did recently have an eerie experience on this subject.  I was reading about Deb Frisch and her attacks on another blog, and some of her comments were almost word for word the same as some of diane’s.  Might be coincidence, might be shared talking points, or might be…
Have they ever been seen in public together?

I will not miss the constant thread hijacking or the non-stop return to the FICA vs. FICO thing.  (I can’t believe she would let that bother her so much, and then keep coming back to it.  It must have been on her mind 24/7.  I picture her muttering FICA references in the insane asylum she will eventually be in.)

Her repeated attacks on everyone for doing the same thing she had already done and then claiming victim status was annoying and tired.  And funny how it is the same method the terrorists she sympathized with use.

She will not be missed.

Thanks boss

I agree with Gene that this is a tough call.  On the other hand, there is a large, gray area in the law regarding the degree of liability of a blog owner for comments left by others and any ensuing legal actions taken.

The threat to Load the Mule, real or mythical, was completely out of line.  The potential threat to Say Anything was intolerable.

She did make false statements about SA in her email, as she reported it.

Good call, Rob.  There is no call for that kind of thing anywhere.  As much as I abhor the things Deb Frisch said to Goldstein, I’m still not comfortable with it affecting her job.  Speech has consequences, but the first and only step in escalation should be the authorities.  If she actually committed a crime, then that should be the trigger for her employer to consider whether she should continue or not.

Frankly, I think diane is deranged, though.  She went hysterical over something that was no more than a slip of the tongue.  FICO vs. FICA.  Fica is the acronym on your paycheck for Social Security witholdings.  It is very ver similar to FICO, but completely different.

I am amazed she went to the lengths she did rather than admit to a simple mistake of confusing one term with the other.  That is frightening.

Diane was a troll?

Until you ban Likwidshoe, you should unban Diane.  Likwidshoe is too over the top in every single issue, starting with telling me some time ago that listening to trance actually erases brain cells.  He crossed the line into that grey area with me.  Me brain still has plenty of pwer.

And if people can’t see that as a joke then I don’t know what else to say.

Chad, I get that you’re joking, but just to be clear Diane was banned for being “over the top.” She was all that and more since day one on this blog.

She was banned for trying to get another commenter fired.  That’s just beyond the pale.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I would say that you should change the password on your computer to a real nasty one. 

Then you should go listen to ‘trance’ for as long as it takes.

Easier than banning them.

I certainly agree.  And it is, after all, your site to do with what you see fit.  That is, without question, crossing the line. 

The problem I have with people like Diane, assuming of course she was what everyone has said and I have no reason to doubt that, is that I can’t figure out where all of this hatred comes from.  Every single person, or most which I’ll get to in a moment, that leaves a comment anywhere has to read their comment and wonder if it makes sense, if it can be taken out of context or if it is persuasive if that is the intention.  How is spewing hatred persuasive of anything other than someone’s own personal mental issues?

Of course the further irony in it all is that I see more of this vile rhetoric coming from the same side whose ideological roots used to wage giant rallies calling for peace and love.  For that reason, I tend to look at comments left by the Dianes of the world and just laugh because they don’t realize just how far they have strayed from what they conceptually agree upon.

Even so, my previous comment was just a shot at Likwidshoe as a joke and nothing more and I certainly do not disagree with your decision on this matter, Rob.  I probably would have booted her long ago as I find it is a waste of time to debate those that have no intention on actually debating.

Hey, don’t feel too bad, in most posts Diane wasn’t really saying anything (coherent) anyway.

I mean to have a comment qualify as saying something one has to actually say something.

Not rocket science..... 

The threat, yes that was waaaaay over the top even if it too was saying nothing.

Chad, I too have wondered how someone like Diane can proofread many of her own comments and think they are coherent, objective and rational.

Why people think what they think is far more interesting to me than what they think.

For example how does any human brain get to where it will buy the Bush did it/ Bush allowed it re 9-11??

Goodness, these theories have been debunked on Democratic Underground for crying out loud! There are posters there who lost people on 9-11!!

How can one bo SO irrational and yet think one is so right??

Probably got to do with the sanctity of opinion these days, for many opinion appears to be totally interchangable with fact. Obviously there is no check or recheck of basic premises underlying the opinion - which, one would think, should/would be part of developing a rational objective and coherent opinion.

Sherard said, As much as I abhor the things Deb Frisch said to Goldstein, I’m still not comfortable with it affecting her job.

Screw that. Deb Frisch was a university professor whose salary was paid in part with tax money. She’s gone now for making some disgusting sexual/murder comments about a two year old. So now she got frisched. Good riddance. The woman can now rot in hate without corrupting young minds.

Chad Evans - lay off the trance man. Listening to it brings about deleterious consequences!

Jesse, and there you touched upon the major differce of today’s Liberals versus Conservatives; logic versus emotion.

There is no sound logic as to why the Bush Administration would plan 9/11, tacitly endorse 9/11 or even allow 9/11 to happen.  I have engaged in some of that debate in the past, though I try to steer as far away from it as possible for obvious reasons, but the main rationale is built behind Bush’s desire to control the world’s oil.

Nevermind that the first nation attacked was Afghanistan and Afghanistan, to my knowledge, doesn’t have any oil.  Nevermind that oil prices have actually gone up since the invasion of Iraq and we have yet to see any imperial conquest of Iraq’s sole natural resource that the 9/11 cynics respond was the reason why Bush wanted 9/11 to happen.  Nevermind that there was ample reason to invade Iraq prior to 9/11, nor that 9/11 severely hurt the U.S. economy and no president wants to reside over a nation under an economic recession, much less one that wants to be in office for eight years.  Nevermind that the attacks have been claimed by Al Qaida, we’re told the video found by the Coalition in November 2001 (maybe a month or two later but I won’t look it up) was not OBL and it’s virtually impossible for U.S. soldiers to find one video in an entire city.  Forget the fact that intelligence gained from interrogations and tips would have aided the search for said tape, nor that when one is on the run they lose weight and when one feels secure one usually gains weight.  Nevermind that there were two freaking jumbo jets that flew into the freaking WTC!, they were either remotely controlled or the Bush Admin. quickly swarmed into the buildings to plant bombs.  “But people heard explosions!” Yes, that’s what happens when a plane crashes.

To many people like Diane, or so it sounds, their political arguments center around their own set of emotions rather than deducing any logic to their own beliefs.  I have absolutely no clue if Diane is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, but there is ample evidence that those who question 9/11 fall largely into the category of Liberal Americans. 

Liberals did not always used to be this way, and in fact it used to be quite the opposite.  It is that reason why I firmly believe the ideological decendents of the 60s and 70s generation formed an entire party and we’re seeing the fallout today.  Evidence of this lack of logic can be found in the comments by Dave, who said:

“If this was on purpose, as a few have suggested, it just marks reason number...oh, about ten thousand why we should legalize infanticide. In a better society, if the parents wanted to end their child’s life, they could just take him to a doctor to get painlessly euthenized, rather than making it suffer in a hot car all day.”

While rationalizing that leaving a baby in a car to die is wrong, Dave further projects that this act alone is proof that we should kill babies before they are born to prevent people from, well, killing their babies after they were born. 

South Park had a great episode on this very notion which Dave seems to believe would be legal in a “better society.”

Doctor at an abortion clinic: How old is the fetus?
Cartman’s Mom: Six and a half years.
Doctor:  Hmmm.  Yeah, that’s what we call an 80th term abortion.

Where is the sound thinking in this type of belief?  It isn’t there . . . but as normal I digress into several different avenues in one small comment form.  Such is why I seldome leave my ramblings in the form of comments without just making small jokes.

Damn whos gonna knock that shity little welfare state Israel with me now?

OH well, I dont know it looked like a dare to me, but I only read Dianes comments from the link provided, anyway Diane didnt have to include the a employee of yours part even if it was part of the dare (?) but Iam sure they dont give two shits anyway.

Congratulations everybody, you all got what you want, even me in a way because now I will be the only person that irritates you the most

CHAD: We went to Iraq because they were a unstable nation and our economy was in danger because of our need for oil, NO may of been in danger. Lets tell the truth here.

Its not about terrorists, if our Government was concerned about terrorists our borders would be closed plain and simple. NO because our government wants open borders and a North American Union. Lets tell the truth.

We went to Iraq to spread democracy, (that has to be the funniest one), No we went to establish a pro-Israel lobby like the one that controls our government.

Reps = Dems = PUPPETS.

Dont worry everyone I’ll be back from time to time

I feel special! I have been allowed to witness both bannings here at sayanything. It is nice to watch it from this side.

Oh, DeeDee, that was so sweet.
Thanks for thinking of me.

I like toast.

I like toast.

And it’s THIS sense of Humor that makes me a RBB fan.

Well Done.

In that case, according to Rob’s own words in the post above:

Despite that, I tolerated her comments in the past because of SA’s open commenting policy. As long as no one is being threatened and the person in question is spamming or flooding comment sections with crap they get to stay.

I want 2H9 banned for threats:

here

He recommended you commit suicide.  Get over it.  diane tried to get a poster fired, and lied in the process to accomplish her goal.  If you can’t get along with someone, learn how.

WHAAAA? You mean this 2H9?

Of the blogs I trawl on a regular basis, SA is the most civil….
TwoHotel9 on May 10, 2006 at 7:00 PM

One last time. We are not"neo-cons". We were politically aware and active before you were born. Hell, Docdave was in the world before your mother knew what that smelly thing between her legs was for. Tote your lying teenybopper ass somewhere else. We are sick of your bullshit. Fuck off.

TwoHotel9 on May 14, 2006 at 8:37 PM

Come on now CV, doncha think you’re being a little tuff on the Hotel? It’s just the liquor talking…or the gun he sleeps with.

Uh-oh looks like our little r skipped his reading comprehension class again.

What 2h9 wrote was:

how about we kill all the socialists? We could start with you.

But you knew that.

A suggestion is not a threat.  Try that reading comprehension, rbb.  It works every time it’s tried.
You did read “could” there, didn’t you?  Then go to the next few sentences; nice cherry-pick, though.

It’s really the “whining to Daddy” part I object to.  Oh, Daddy, get the big bad man banned; he talked mean to me!  Give me a break.

At least we are making progress. cv admits it is a socialist. Now all it has to do is admit it follows a failed ideology, and it is on the road to becoming a real human being.

now r, don’t make me go back and find all the comments about banning diane...I just might find one of yours.

I want 2H9 banned for threats:

Rick, if I were you, I’d start my own blog and start it out by banning 2h9.  Oh, he’ll be so upset!

I’d recommend staying over there and chortling to yourself how you’re having all the fun.

Some of you may know that one of my pet peeves is topic stray. 
When someone turns every topic off topic purposefully in order to discuss their own, it is disruptive.
When someone has been so mean and unkind to so many that their mere presense turns the thread into a name calling virtual fistfight, it is disruptive. 
Disruptive behavior in grade school eventually results in expulsion.  Thanks, Principal Rob, for making this move to restore order to the virtual schoolyard.

RBB, you can’t really be that obtuse.

The issue is crossing the line from arguing on the blog and crossing over and making it personal by trying to get somebody fired.

People get pissed sometimes, and say things they perhaps shouldn’t.  But there’s a big difference between voicing comments in the heat of the moment, and premeditated action like trying to affect another person’s job.

This isn’t a PC web site.  Not that they in reality are any better.  They just go about it a bit differently, with the same end result.

IF that is what diane did, she was wrong.

What would it be like if we trolls weren’t here?

HEADLINE: Liberals are bad – rob

You are right – whistler

And so are you - rob

Lefties are lefties - r108

You are right too - gopraire

Clinton Clinton Clinton - r108

Yeah me too - DD

That Jessica is ok by me - rob

You are so right - Sphagnum

I am of the belief that we here, the commenters and contributors (especially me) of http:///sayanythingblog.com, can never be proven wrong – Rodney

I miss that reality fella - Gene

Good night John boy…

No, Carrick, realityboob really is this obtuse.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Now see what you did, realitydenyingboob? Done hurt my feelings, made me feel excluded and left out. Boohoo, Boohoo.

HEADLINE: Liberals are bad – rob

You are right – whistler

Yes, In less than a year I’ve worked my way up to #1 sycophant. 

I couldn’t have done it without your help Rob.  You’re the greatest.

Toadying 101.

Rob,

Thank you.

The issue isn’t whether diane can affect my employment (she can’t), but the fact that she professed to having made the attempt.  IMO, that’s beyond the pale.

Again--thanks for doing the right, albeit obviously painful, thing.

Regards…

LTM, glad to hear there’s no exposure on your part here.  We’d all right you LORs to your boss if need be.  Or at least those of us with more life training that 8 years in the real estate (cough *fica* cough) business.

TW:

I couldn’t have done it without your help Rob. You’re the greatest.

Pay attention. When toadying, you say it this way:

Your the greatest!!!(Required grammatical error.)

Also, congradulations[*] for your promotion… and your welcome!

Hope this helps.

[*] Required misspelling.

So, a threat is only okay if it’s a little whiny conservative foulmouth idiot who makes the threat?  Rob, that’s so hypocritical of you. 

Good thing I know that 2h9 doesn’t have a set big enough to back up anything he spews.

CV Rick, there’s a solution.  If you don’t like the way Rob runs his blog, run your own.

Had 2H9’s comment been a real threat as opposed to a GFYSAD-type comment, that would be a different story.  If you cannot make the distinction, then you obviously aren’t as bright as you would like to think you are.

And speaking of whiny… that would be you for continuing to whine about this.  “Dad! Dad!  Guess what 2H9 said?! Wah! Wah! Wah!”.

GMAFB.

rbb: You won’t.  But please try anyway.  I’ll get a chuckle thinking about it.  I’m generally not into banning anyone, except for a real threat outside the blog(Rick, take note).  If we can’t keep the acrimony inside our group here, something is wrong, and it has to be addressed.  What Deb Frisch did and what diane did was wrong, and really out of bounds.  I realize that person to person threats and namecalling are both evidence of a lack of substance, but that only shows up the one that uses those tactics.  Trying to get someone fired, especially by lying about them, is right out, and merits banning.  Rick is obviously parsing the word “threat” to suit his angry agenda, but what else is new?

Carrick,

I was just pointing out that Rob said threats weren’t tolerated . . . yet they are.

Can’t you understand that?  It’s not whining if I point it out . . . just another case of conservative hypocrisy . . .

Get it?

A death threat is a threat, dumbass.

By your standards, weren’t you threatening all of Islam with this:

Why don’t we just kill all of Islam then?

Why are we supposed to take your comment as anything other than a statement of hostility towards Muslims, yet not assume the same degree of tongue-in-cheek from 2H9?

Like I said, GMAFB.

Rick: Your juvenile namecalling is as ineffective as ever.  A verbal threat that is strictly verbal is a different kind of threat than one where the person tries to threaten someone’s job over a thread on a blog.  You really can’t tell the difference?  If you can’t, I feel really sorry for you.  Life must feel very threatening to you.  Better hide under the bed.

R108, if you read it in context on the original thread, 2H9 was clearly tongue in cheek, just as CVR was when he said he was going to kill his neighbor’s cat in the same comment thread (or the “kill all of Islam” comment for that matter).

Context matters, author’s intent matters (which is established in part from context) and CV Rick doesn’t get to decide what 2H9’s words mean.

I could care less if he can’t read or remember his own diatribes from the same comment thread, and responded inappropriately to 2H9’s comment.  It’s the intent of the comment that matters both from a pragmatic as well as a legal standpoint.  As far as I’m concerned it’s not a verbal threat, just a rhetorical response to CVRs previous rhetoric.

Carrick:  I guess it depends on the meaning of “threat”, right?  Real or rhetorical? I rarely take 2h9 seriously when he gets hyperbolic.

It is a method of making a point, although subtlety, irony, and hyperbole are entirely lost on leftards like cv. But I keep on trying.

Some of us get it!

Like I said, threats are only tolerated from right-wingers on this blog. 

Enjoy the hypocrisy.

You are the person to tell us about hypocrisy. You have a nice day, I always do.

Calm down, man! I tell my hubby/brother/sister/ect. that I’m going to kill them all of the time.

It’s in jest, or hyperbole.

The difference is, I would never actually attack them.

Diane said she would attack, and tried to.

CV:

Enjoy the hypocrisy.

Your point isn’t lost on me, it’s just wrong.  Just because you perceive a threat, doesn’t make it one.  Writing to somebody’s boss… objective threat.  Responding to your “threat” to genocide all of Islam in kind, not threat, even if you read it the wrong way (which is your problem then, not ours).

You aren’t near as intelligent as you think you are, and a long way from being in a position to lecture the rest of us on manners in any case.

Like I said, threats are only tolerated from right-wingers on this blog.

I hope every finds out when you wet your pants.

See if that gets me banned.

What’s with all this blather about rightwing hypocrisy?  I was really enjoying the toadying lessons, when all of a sudden there’s all this sniveling from Rick.

It seems like every time there’s a fight in a bar, its always some beligerent little twit with a 14” neck and a falsetto voice trying to prove his manhood against the big boys who are just sitting there minding their own damn business.

The Toadiness bunny trail made me laugh so much the coffee I was drinking ran out my..........

Oh, you don’t want to know.

This has been fun.  You are all very clever folks.

I have now toaded appropriately.  And missspeleed.

Gene, I for one, always enjoy your misspellings. They are always so appropriately inappropriate. (hope I misspelled those, they are hard enough to spell right)

I wanted to break a lance for Diane, but after reading what I’ve read here it came to my mind that those who are kept in madhouses firmly believe those living outside are the real insane. So I’m banning your site from my browser, you deserve it.

I’d beg Jose to come back, but he’s probably already ignoring me.

drat.

Jose said, I wanted to break a lance for Diane, but after reading what I’ve read here it came to my mind that those who are kept in madhouses firmly believe those living outside are the real insane. So I’m banning your site from my browser, you deserve it.

Because you’re insane?

Bye, bye stupid fuck. Don’t let the door smack you in the ass on the way out.