Column: All I Want For Christmas Is A Little Live And Let Live

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Americans seem to have appointed themselves a new sort of entitlement.

This one isn’t about other people paying for their health care, or other people paying for their college tuition. It seems vast swaths of the American public now think they have the right not to be offended.

The most recent example of this phenomena is socially conservative duck hunting mogul Phil Robertson of reality television’s Duck Dynasty fame. Robertson told GQ magazine recently that he didn’t understand how men could be attracted to other men’s anuses instead of women’s vaginas, and then suggested that homosexuality was a sin not unlike promiscuity and bestiality.

He then made some comments about how blacks, in his experience working alongside them as a poor white man, weren’t all that unhappy in the Jim Crow-era south.

Judging by the storm of media reactions, both condemning and defending Robertson’s comments, what some reality television personality had to say about homosexuality and race relations is currently the most important issue in America.

I’m guessing far more people know the details of Robertson’s comments and the fallout then the details of the recent budget deal.

Not surprisingly, the reactions to Robertson’s comments split along ideological lines. Those on the left condemned him and threatened boycotts of his show and sponsors. Those on the right tended to defend him, and condemn those on the left for “censorship.”

The irony is that just a little more than a decade ago these ideological roles were reversed in a similar situation involving celebrities with feet planted firmly in their mouths. The Dixie Chicks, until 2003 a popular country music act, told an audience in England that they were against the Iraq war and ashamed of then-President George W. Bush.

Those on the right condemned the “chicks” and threatened boycotts of their shows and sponsors. Those on the left defended the “chicks” and condemned those on the right for “censorship.”

Of course, the claims of censorship are silly. Nobody in the government sought to retaliate against the Dixie Chicks for their comments against the war in Iraq and President Bush, just as nobody in the government is seeking retaliation against Phil Robertson and his family.

But we should be concerned about how our society has taken to reacting to these situations. Whether it’s country singers and controversial political statements, duck hunters and controversial social commentaries or wedding photographers refusing to work at gay marriages (only to see themselves conscripted into service anyway by state equality laws), it’s as though Americans can’t just live and let live.

We can’t just disagree. We must attack those with whom we disagree and wound them. Destroy their reputation. Destroy their careers. Those with moral objections to certain lifestyles are bigots. Those with dissenting political views are extremists.

You’re either with me or against me. That’s how a growing number of Americans seem to see the world.

It used to be, “I may not agree with what you say, but I’ll defend your right to say it.” Now it’s “I don’t agree with what you say, and I’ll set out to destroy your life and your career because you say it, but I will oppose the cops arresting you because I’m against censorship.”

As if that were much better.

And the capitalists, always on the lookout for how to make a buck, are already exploiting this trend in human behavior.

The controversy around Robertson’s comments seems a little contrived to this observer. Something akin to starlets like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian leaking sex tapes to bolster their own careers.

Just days after announcing that Phil Robertson would be suspended from Duck Dynasty, A&E (which airs the obviously staged production) announced that he’d be appearing in new episodes of the show in January. Cracker Barrel, a sponsor of the show, announced that they’d be withdrawing from their relationship with the Robertsons only to reverse that decision just a couple of days later.

It seems the Robertson family will move into 2014 with a lot more people paying attention to their television show than there was in 2013. Not bad for people who are supposedly the victims of public backlash.

This “scandal” might be the best business innovation the Robertsons have executed yet.

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Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • LastBestHope

    Maybe it was staged. Or maybe it was inspired. The whole nation is talking about Scripture and the meaning of sin. That is a miracle right there.

    In any event, A&E has already caved.

    “A&E may have given “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson the heave-ho when they suspended him from future episodes of the show last week, but the network is still welcoming him home for holidays.

    The channel is celebrating Christmas with a staggering 25 consecutive episodes of their No. 1 show, beginning at 3:30 p.m. on Christmas Day and running until the wee hours of Dec. 26.

    According to the schedule on A&E’s website, the Robertsons will take over the channel until 4 a.m., and then paid programming —meaning infomercials—will kick in.”

    Source: Fox News

    • LastBestHope

      And btw…that Twitter block on the support Phil link has been removed.

      GLAAD is gonna be sad. Their attempt to make Brother Phil shut up ain’t exactly workin’ out for them.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      The whole nation is talking about scripture?

      You must not live in the same reality as the rest of us.

      • LastBestHope

        LOL…you are talking about Scripture by putting this story at the top of your page. The conversation has to start with Paul’s letter to the Roman’s because that is what Mr. Robertson was referencing. That’s the core of the whole debate.

        See…you helped facilitate Bible Study. Merry Christmas old bean.

        • LastBestHope

          Let’s carry our study of the Book of Romans a tad further on this Christmas Eve. What sin is and what it means to us in our daily lives was the message of the apostle Paul in his letter to the Romans.

          King James version:

          [22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

          [23] And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

          [24] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

          [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

          [26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

          [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

          [28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

          [29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

          [30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

          [31] Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

          • Spidey

            It’s a Christmas Miracle! Like the radical Muslim fundamentalists and Russians, when you publicize your hatred of gays, you get people talking about your twisted point of view.

          • Neiman

            I honestly get so sick of your lies. LBH, nor other Christians here, nor I, hate Gays and you know it, we love them and want to rescue them from a God condemned lifestyle choice so that rather than being lost, they will repent and find Salvation and eternal life with Christ. While I am sad to say, it seems you would rather twist Scripture to conform it to your perverse way of thinking and essentially lie gays into hell. So, it is you that hate gays, you would deceive them and lead them away from Repentance and from Jesus. That is your Christmas gift to them, turn them away from their only hope of salvation and there is no greater hatred than that.

            Your Christmas gift today to people at SAB is to sow seeds of strife, division and hatred of Christians. Your Christmas gift to gays is to lie them into everlasting torments, to satisfy your enormous ego.Your Christmas gift to Jesus is do all you can to take souls away from him, to spit on His sacrifice.

            My Christmas gift to you is to pray that God will deliver you from your bitterness, cause you to repent of your sins and to turn to Him for His Salvation.

          • Spidey

            You don’t even rank up to the level of the dirt on Phil’s shoes, and he’s a hateful bigot. Your hate is much darker, much more demented. But Phils is your average Red State bigotry that brings much shame to good Christians everywhere:

            “First they say, ‘There is no God. Get him out of your mind,’” he
            said in a rambling speech. “Then they bow down to birds, animals and
            reptiles, and each other. And the first thing you see coming out of them
            is gross sexual immorality. They will dishonor their bodies with one
            another, degrade each other. Uh, is that going on in the United States
            of America? Look around. God’s not there… And boy is there some
            immorality going on around here. Does it get worse?”

            “Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions,” Robertson continued.

            They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent,
            arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are
            senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil.
            That’s
            what you have 235 years, roughly, after your forefathers founded the
            country. So what are you gonna do Pennsylvania? Just run with them?
            You’re doing to die. Don’t forget that.”
            - Phil the hateful

            I pray there’s still time for you, Neiman.

          • Neiman

            I wish I knew how to reach such a recalcitrant soul towards the Word of God, as you, by all appearances, seem to be. Your words indicate to me that you are filed with rage and hate – at Christians, at God’s Word – fighting against God, not me. I do not take it personally, you are at war with God for some reason and you are using me to attack Him.

            What good Christians is that, like yourself, ones that knowingly lies to precious Lesbian and Homosexual souls and tell them it is not a sin unto death, unless they repent? What good Christian is that, ones like yourself that support the lie of separation of Church and State telling the Christian God and only Him that He is persona non grata in our affairs?

            Before you pray, I encourage you to first confess your sins to God and then ask Jesus to be your only Savior and the absolute Lord of your life. Otherwise, God cannot hear your prayers.

            While it was a loose paraphrase of the Bible, Phil was telling the Truth. See, not knowing the evil it represents, it seems by your words that you belong to a mass of humanity pretending to the Christian faith, while in their words and deeds they/you disobey God; and, it is the End Times, perverse version of the Church that Jesus condemned below.

            LAODICEAN CHURCH
            “14 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.”

            Laodicea.

            “This is an unsaved church. In fact, if there were any believers in this church they aren’t even referred to in the letter at all. It is a church that is characterized by lukewarmness which becomes a metaphor for being non-saved people. Laodicea has the grim distinction of being among all seven letters the only one in which Christ has nothing good to say. It is unmitigated, unspared condemnation. There is in this church apparently absolutely no redeeming feature. This is the unsaved, unregenerate false church.”

            It seems to me this is your Church Spidey, your type of Christian: Not because I say so, but because you are calling those things God calls good to be evil and those things He calls evil to be good, you twist and turn God’s Word upside down, pretending to a Christian faith and by your many lies, I fear you are in the company of hell, leading many precious souls away from God. I know that seems harsh, but it is based on God’s Word, which is often harsh, leading to repentance.

            Seriously, I think you are in great peril as touching eternity, I don’t know how you started, whether you were ever sincerely trying to be a Christian or not; but I believe you are now in danger of everlasting torments, because you sir/madam, whatever you are, by all appearances, you seem to be a Laodicean, false, spiritually dead Christian. I do honestly pity you and pray to my Lord Jesus Christ that He might bring you to salvation before it is to late, if your heart is not already too hardened against Him.

          • Spidey

            If God created souls who were Lesbian and Homosexual, then did he not intend those souls to be homosexual? For it is the word of scripture that only condemns acts of those who have heterosexual desires to commit homosexual acts, those souls would be heterosexual, much like those child molesting GOP Pastors. They are the sinners.

            That being said, let’s say for a moment you had clarity of scripture, which you don’t. Are you saying you are more kind to them by telling them they are damned to hell, unless what? What would you have them do to be saved? Stop all homosexual acts and have only heterosexual intercourse?

            Lastly, you claim that you are representation of God that non-believers attack? Let’s put your blasphemous arrogance and insanity aside for a moment so that you can be clear.

          • Neiman

            1. I get weary of going over this so often: The Bible teaches us that God uniquely created Adam out of the dust of the ground, after Adam God took Eve from Adam’s side, taken out from the man; and thereafter, all human beings that came into being are here as a result of procreation; that is, wherein they are produced through sexual intercourse. So God did not uniquely create anyone after Adam, whom He created perfect and even if a genetic causation (defect) could be established, it has not thus far; then it would be a genetic fault caused by environmental factors, nurturing and always as the direct result of man’s rebellion against God (sin). So, God did not create anyone to be gay or souls that would for the causes mentioned become Gay, He by His Permissive Will allowed men and women free will to, among other things, reproduce.

            2. It is yours and others you have turned to that have spread the lie that it was heterosexuals that committed homosexual acts that were sinning, not homosexuals committing the same act. That is so false on its face that I have to force myself to respond at all. (a) It is obvious to all but a moron that the male and female were designed solely to procreate, that (b) their sexual organs were designed to fit that purpose and there is no way the penis was supposed to go inside the anus, as procreation will not occur in that way and it is a perversion of Divine Design, purpose and the command of God, which was (c) for mankind to beget offspring after their own kind. God also said clearly that His purpose was for men to leave their parents, be joined to a woman in marriage and fill the earth with their kind. (d) It is also clear that God, knowing all things and not wanting to, let not able to deceive His children, never mentioned an alternative design/purpose that included same gender intercourse. (e) God never mentioned nor condoned same sex unions. (f) God never mentioned homosexuality in a positive context. (g) Besides Romans the Bible speaks often of the evil of homosexuality and of His condemning such a wicked perversion of His Design/Purpose. (h) Homosexuality being an aberration of human design, God would never create anything that is imperfect.

            I see you made it a partisan issue, not me this time. I deeply regret that so many members of the GOP advocating family values have given in to temptation due to the weakness of their flesh and engaged in sexual misconduct, but it has nothing to do with the GOP as they do not condone it, it is sin. As to pastors/priests caught up in sexual sins like child molestation, knowing that sex is man’s greatest weakness and most powerful lust, the enemy of our souls, to bring the Christian faith into disrepute and capture souls for hell, preys on such men, assaulting them with temptation, for the purpose of making them fall into sin. That does not excuse the sins of these men, but we know why it is happening in such numbers today.

            3. If your were a Christian and understood God’s Word, you would know that God is a God of Justice and His wrath is kindled against all sin and all flesh due to sin. So, while we are in a time of Grace, we know that knowledge of God’s Wrath causes men to repent and turn to Christ for salvation. So yes, first it must be made clear, especially to overcome the liars of people like yourself that, homosexuality is a sin with the hope that some might, to escape God’s Wrath, repent and then turn to Christ. John the Baptist came convicting the people of sin and calling for repentance, Jesus came offering to pay for our sins and through the Apostles we are brought to Salvation in Christ. Same thing here, first conviction of sin, no watering it down to avoid offense, then repentance and then salvation.

            4. I would have them do nothing – I am not God, but before repentance there comes a knowledge that sin is sin and with sincere repentance, comes a desire not to sin in that way again ;and in Salvation, the power of the Holy Spirit dwells within to overcome that sin. Further, while we all fail and struggle with sin even after salvation, all sexual intercourse is for the marriage bed or they should remain as best they can – celibate, as by faith God heals them of these unnatural desires and heals them.

            5. Your closing paragraph is not only nonsensical, but wrong.

            I do not waste my time for you, you will ignore everything I have written and go off on some other tangent, I offer this effort for the instruction of those open to God’s Word.

          • Mark 2112

            nope, free will….you obvious have no grasp on who or what God is or you wouldn’t be making such lame remarks

          • Spidey

            You’re blurring lines, because you don’t understand the difference between free will and nature. Are you saying you are only making a choice to have sex with women, that you don’t have a desire, or that your desire for women is equal to that for men?

            God would not make a distinction, if none existed. Why did he make one? Explain.

          • Mark 2112

            how do you know what God would or would not do? Explain

          • Spidey

            You didn’t answer any of my questions, but expect me to answer yours? I will, but not because I ignore your inability to answer a direct question, when flustered, but because my answer was already provided.

            I did not say what God would not do, but I do know what he did do; he made a distinction in The Bible.because he inspired t

            So again, hot shot, why did he make a distinction in The Bible, and are you saying you are only making a choice to have sex with women and that you don’t have a natural desire for women, or are you saying your desire for men is equal to that of women, because you have free will?

          • Mark 2112

            not at all ‘hot shot’ —- man was given free will to follow whatever urges he, she have…..no one is forced and not everyone has the same urges as the next person. it all comes down to choice. why do some people urge to drink while others do not? you have the choice to decide your sexuality, or is this where you regale me with scientific ‘facts’ how homosexuality is trait that some are born with?

          • Mark 2112

            “If” — the crux of your entire opinion is based on assumptions.

          • banjo kid

            Spidey it has gotten worse and more is yet to come because I believe and when the Father God talks I listen and what I heard was this world will be like unto Sodom and Gemohea ok I don’t know how it is spelled . big deal but it will wax worse and worse before he returns and there will be multitudes who will be so surprised and I actually believe you will in the front row . Even George Carlin recognized God and salvation I sure hope he made it. I do not want any one going to hell but I fear there will be many . When we make it to heaven we will also be surprised who is not there as well as who is there. 2000 years of history in one book and 900 years before Christ was born it was said then it would happen, in psalms David spoke of them casting lots for His clothing and piercing His hands and feet , what more do you need? and He was seen by over 500 people after His death, and Resurrection. Can you imagine someone loving you so much that He was tortured and in pure agony of pain so you might make it and live an everlasting life . that would take extraordinary love would it not . He did it for you brother . They nailed His hands and feet to the cross because of all our sins the least we can do is to have faith in that and believe on Jesus Christ . What could it hurt but a small life style change . We all fall short and all God asks us is to believe on His son that He was born of a virgin birth and was crucified and rose the third day for all for us.

          • Spidey

            I find all of your commentary reasonable as far as Christians view the world, putting myself outside of that for a moment to realize not everyone is a Christian or even a believer of God.

            That being said, what lifestyle change is it that you are asking to change, yours or those of homosexuals?

            If you assumed I am homosexual, you are wrong. I just happen to see things in the same way The Pope does, and not at all like Neiman.

          • banjo kid

            All I ask is for any one is to seek the Lord diligently and He will find them, the Lord will take care of that if there is a life style change due,. I have nothing to do with that I can only tell them if and this is any one (I am not with sin) that sins seek the Lord thy God with all they heart and He will find you . if they do accept Christ as is written then it is not in my hands any longer . it was never in my hands only to the point of telling them the good news for man and that is no one needs to burn in hell . If you are interested you might try reading the bible through in a year and when the new year comes again start over. I know psalms is a hard read so read 4 or 5 between the books or chapters. I believe you mis read Neiman he does love all people, not to say he does not get frustrated at times with them. The fourth reading has started a tad early this time . and 2014 the Lord willing I have read it the fourth time . Praise God in the highest !

          • Mark 2112

            yes, it MUST be hate if you simply disagree. amazing the simplicity of some people’s thought process

          • Spidey

            What Phil really said, which isn’t at all in the verses you are trying to pervert:

            “First they say, ‘There is no God. Get him out of your mind,’” he
            said in a rambling speech. “Then they bow down to birds, animals and
            reptiles, and each other. And the first thing you see coming out of them
            is gross sexual immorality. They will dishonor their bodies with one
            another, degrade each other. Uh, is that going on in the United States
            of America? Look around. God’s not there… And boy is there some
            immorality going on around here. Does it get worse?”

            “Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions,” Robertson continued.

            “They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent,
            arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are
            senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil. That’s
            what you have 235 years, roughly, after your forefathers founded the
            country. So what are you gonna do Pennsylvania? Just run with them?
            You’re doing to die. Don’t forget that.” – Phil the hateful

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          Pretty sure I mentioned scripture exactly zero times.

          • LastBestHope

            Why are so afraid that someone might think you were part of a Bible Study? The whole Ducking story is about scripture…but let me help ya;

            Dear SAB bloggers, Rob did NOT study any Scripture, nor mention that word in his post.

            There now…feeling safe?

          • Spidey

            It’s true that more people are now concluding that The Bible doesn’t say anything about being gay or lesbian.

            Now more people realize The Pope has a truer understanding of the meekness of Christ.

            You are helping with that, LBH.

          • LastBestHope

            Can’t talk now Hanni…maybe later when I have time to waste.

          • Spidey

            Do you have an urgency to get back to Muslim bashing, gay bashing or lying about Benghazi?

            What kind of insult is it to call me Hanni? Is this a new type of bigotry you are exposing?

          • Mark 2112

            so if someone disagrees with a your opinion it MUST be bashing? oh and please, please regale me with your thoughts on Benghazi.

      • Neiman

        While LBH did not mean every American, I think he meant it, at least that is the way I read him, that across the whole of America there has been a great deal of talking about Scripture, much more than usual, and defending Phil’s use thereof.

        Yes, we would not expect you and your fellow atheists to be talking Scripture, but I venture to say your parents and wife are during this holiday.

        • Spidey

          The Pope has done a much better job of getting people to find the meekness of Christ, while folks like you are bent in condemning every other person is religion to hell.

          • Spidey

            And religion, not is.

          • Neiman

            First, not I nor anyone else has the power to condemn anyone to hell, I have told you that many, many times; however, if hell is the everlasting fate of anyone, it is because they refused to confess their sins to God and to turn by faith to Jesus as their Savior and Lord; and so they are thus, in a manner of speaking, self condemned as they refused His Salvation. It simply angers you that some Christians believe that without Salvation in Christ Jesus, the wrath of God awaits everyone outside of His Son, so in calling sin to be sin, we call souls to take the first step back to God and that is by Repentance, a turning away from sin. You would paralyze the Church, silence them, so they would not condemn sin, not turn people to repentance and Salvation in Christ, because you fear offending sinners.

            For a supposed non-Catholic, you spend a lot of time promoting the current Pope. I hate the very conversation, because being honest with people will be offended them, even and maybe especially non-Christians. You make the age old mistake of looking at the outside of man, his words and deeds as YOUR means to judge who is or who is not a genuine Christian, as you apparently do not know what is required for Salvation. But, God does not look at the outside, He looks upon the heart and not as men see things, but from the perspective of His seeing all things from beginning to end, His being outside space and time.

            In that regard, like I have long said about Mormon’s, they talk and seem to live the Christian message a lot better than over 90% of even Evangelical Christians, too bad that their Jesus and the Jesus of the Bible are alien to one another, theirs being a false Christ. I have said of Pope Francis that he seems to live the Christian message better than any other man-elevated Pope before Him, his humility, distaste for wealth and materialism, his love for the poor, his living outside the palace of the Vatican, traveling among the people and his call for serving the poor, all make him appear a fine example of the Christian faith. Yet, in both cases, it is all about outward appearances, it is about image and not reality. I will not go into the false nature of the RCC or use Christmas Eve to cause hurt feelings among Mormon’s and Catholics, even though that is what you would like me to do, as your prefer to sow division and strife and the very things you judge about me, you are guilty of yourself.

            I will only say that it is critical that the Jesus they serve is the authentic Jesus of the Holy Bible or it is a false Christ, an anti-Christ, the enemy of our souls having them wear the outward clothes of humble servants of Christ, but not being of His Body and therefore lost. It is the responsibility of any true disciple of Christ, truly loving all souls, to speak the Truth to them, even though Jesus tells us that Truth and that the real Jesus will offend them; and that means calling sin to be sin, calling souls to repentance and sharing the real, authentic Gospel of Salvation in Christ Jesus with them. You look on the outside and if a man meets your definition of being meek, humble and saccharine sweet, no matter their sins, you accept them as being Christians; while God looks upon the inner man and only asks what they have done about His Son, if they are part of His Body.

          • Spidey

            “First, not I nor anyone else has the power to condemn anyone to hell,” - Nieman

            Yes, for once you said something right. Now please stop telling others that they are condemning homosexuals to hell, simply for not being a hateful person, such as yourself.

          • Neiman

            There is a difference. Warning someone that they are in danger of hell fire, of self condemnation to Perdition, if they do not repent of their sins and seek Jesus as their Savior, is NOT to condemn them personally. But that warning is a huge part of the Gospel, warning souls of God’s Wrath against all sin, wherein every human being is in danger if they do nor repent (agree with God what they are doing is wrong) and turn to Jesus for healing and salvation. You would silence that most dire warning of everlasting torment and by silencing it, you are guilty of many precious souls not being warned so they may seek God in time.

            Hateful? (a) I warn people that God’s wrath is kindled against all sin and in response to the topics here, against homosexuality and abortion, among others. The goal being the rescuing of their souls from hell and you call that HATE. (b) You would silence the Gospel message so that people will not be offended when their sins are confronted; and, you thus deny many, many precious souls the only message that can keep them from never ending torments and you call that LOVE. You, as God warned us, have turned the Truth upside down and made what God calls to be good (Gospel of Salvation) to be evil (Hate).

            A man is sent out to the walls of a city, God charges him and everyone like him to warn the people when destruction is coming, that man and everyone like him, if they are to succeed, must sound a very clear, loud and certain note, if lives are to be saved. That is what every Christian is called to do – to cry out as loudly and clearly as possible that the souls of men and women are in danger of destruction and they must not sound an uncertain note. You want to silence their warnings, because the real hater of souls is yourself, the one that hates God and does not want anyone to be saved is – YOU>

      • PK

        Most people don’t live in the same reality as you atheists. We can see the proof for the Creator all around us, from the stars, to an orchid flowers that look just like various animals, to a newborn, to the inner workings of the cell. An ancient collection of books called the Bible declares His truth and righteousness. You’re a blind fool who’s running from God, with such an ego as to deny His existence altogether. Stop running and just call on the name of Jesus. God bless.

    • zdavid53

      Isn’t it funny, on almost any TV show, there has been almost no talk about the Bible and
      Christianity. About the only one talking about these subjects on TV is the Phil Robertson family. Talk about persecution of the Christians.

  • borborygmi45

    I am guessing that the people that he offended don’t watch the show anyway.

    • Mark 2112

      maybe they needed to be offended.

  • sbark

    Live and Let live………..it sure would be nice not too always have to react to the next push by Liberalism. Notice the Conservative and or Christian right is always just reacting to the inevitable next step, next push, the next “right” the left contrives…………..and there always is a next with them.
    The Left perpetually pushes their “golden calf” religions onto the general population–they push their Abortion, their Enviro their gay rights, their generational welfare much more ardently than 99% of the Christian right does………but hey gotta keep religion out of politics, unless its disguised as politics in the 1st place.

  • Federalist

    Personally I think the whole thing is a put on job by a fake redneck grifter.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Given the rapid about-face by A&E and some of the sponsors, I agree. This seems less scandal than marketing strategy.

      • Bat 1

        Here’s a question for you, Rob. Does that “Live and Let Live” philosophy you’re touting include questioning the sincerity of someone else’s religious beliefs, beliefs with which you firmly disagree? If you believe this is all just a “marketing” ploy, then you are also cynically calling into question Phil Robertson’s statements of faith… statements that were apparently on the record long before A&E. Not much of an example of “Live and Let Live”, is it?

  • GameND

    I have really had a hard time with this issue. First off, I don’t think that Robertson or his show should be taken off the air for what he said.

    Second, it really bothers me how many of my friends have came out in blind support of him. He not only used my faith as an excuse to make a disusing and crude statement (the vagina is better than the anus) but also that everybody seems blind to the fact that he also said that Black Americans were better off without civil rights.

    Overall, I am just really disappointed in Robertson.He used to be a great ambassador for my faith, a person who has overcame some bad stuff, created a strong family, and who does his best to teach the faith. Now, his statements have now cast him as yet another person who has used Christianity as an excuse to be ignorant, bigoted and racist.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I agree with all of this.

      When the show got popular I read up some on Robertson, and his really is an inspiring story. He had a lot of problems early in life, but overcame them with hard work and talent and created an extremely successful business.

      Whatever your view on the morality of homosexuality, Robertson’s comments were crude and needlessly provocative. They were in poor taste, if nothing else. Even if I agreed with his views on homosexuality, I’d be disappointed in his behavior.

    • Neiman

      It is a good thing that God looks upon the heart and not on our outward actions, when it comes to saving our souls. If not, I would be in big trouble.

      I am happy that Jesus came to save sinners not the righteous, He loves big, tough, blundering folk like Peter, He loves big blundering folk like Phil. Phil did nothing to harm Christianity, that is for you to suggest the Lord is unable to care for His own Church or unable to speak to and save folk that you might think were “turned off” to the faith. I am happy that He tolerates my mistakes, my sins and forgives them all as He does Phil.

      What did Phil say that offended you, because he spoke the truth from scripture about homosexuality being a sin, because he used crude expressions you would not use? Isn’t that kind of making you the issue? If you look at the extreme povertyy among blacks, the single parent broken families, the drugs, the gangs, the drive-by shootings and on and on, while many have benefited from Civil Rights, I would say the majority have not seen much in the way of benefits. No, I absolutely do support most Civil Rights legislation for people of color and hated their pre-Civil Rights treatment, but considering who Phil is and where he came from, this was hardly the comments of a wild-eyed racist. He is just a good old boy saved by the Grace of God from who knows what degradation and while he joyously shares the good news, why should you expect him not to blunder and who cares? He is God’s child, not yours.

      If anyone here is ignorant, blind and bigoted, may I suggest you look in the mirror and extend to Phil just a little Christian Charity.

      IAquick story: For a long time the husband of a fine Christian lady came to our home or we dined out or just had fellowship. He often used the “F” word and other crude language,; but after he accepted Jesus, he later told me he was impressed that I did not get on him about his language and it helped in his deciding for Christ. The point? Give Phil a break and before Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, check your self-righteousness at the door, I am sure you are a better person than that.

      • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

        But Old Pal, you are nothing if not righteous. Are you happy you’ll be left behind?

        • Neiman

          I might have known you would crawl out of your lair in hell to spread strife and division. You have rejected Jesus as your only Savior and the absolute Lord of your life and dare lecture others, I think you would better spend your time dealing with your eternal future, unless you repent and ask Jesus to be your Savior, of everlasting torments. You should pay careful attention and heed to the below, and stop your psycho-sexual obsession with me, life is not about me, for your own sake stop your sick obsession with me:

          {This is RBB} “I’m basically a good person, so I’ll go to heaven.” “OK, so I do some bad things, but I do more good things, so I’ll go to heaven.” “God won’t send me to hell just because I don’t live by the Bible. Times have changed!” “Only really bad people like child molesters and murderers go to hell.”

          These are all common rationalizations, but the truth is that they are
          all lies. Satan, the ruler of the world, plants these thoughts in our
          heads. He, and anyone who follows his ways, is an enemy of God (1Peter 5:8). Satan is a deceiver and often disguises himself as someone good (2 Corinthians 11:14), but he has control over all the minds that do not belong to God. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers [rbb], so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God” (2 Corinthians 4:4).

          It is a lie to believe that God doesn’t care about small sins or that
          hell is reserved for “bad people.” All sin separates us from God, even a“little white lie.” Everyone has sinned, and no one is good enough to
          get to heaven on their own (Romans 3:23).Getting into heaven is not based on whether our good outweighs our bad; we will all lose out if that is the case. “And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace” (Romans 11:6). We can do nothing good to earn our way to heaven (Titus 3:5).

          “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the
          road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it” (Matthew 7:13).Even if everyone else is living a life of sin in a culture where
          trusting in God is not popular, God will not excuse it. “As for you, you
          were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live
          when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient” (Ephesians 2:1-2).

          When God created the world, it was perfect and good. Then he made Adam and Eve and gave them their own free will, so they would have a choice whether to follow and obey God. But they were tempted by Satan to disobey God, and they sinned. This separated them (and everyone that came after them, including us) from being able to have a close relationship with God. He is perfect and holy and must judge sin. As sinners, we couldn’t reconcile ourselves to God on our own. So God made away that we could be united with Him in heaven. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:23). Jesus was born to die for our sins so that we would not have to. Three days after His death, He rose from the grave (Romans 4:25),proving Himself victorious over death. He bridged the gap between God and man so that we may have a personal relationship with Him if we only believe.

          “Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent” (John 17:3).Most people believe in God, even Satan does. But to receive salvation, we must turn to God, form a personal relationship, turn away from our
          sins, and follow Him. We must trust in Jesus with everything we have and everything we do. “This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference” (Romans 3:22). The Bible teaches that there is no other way to salvation than through Christ. Jesus says in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

          Jesus is the only way of salvation because He is the only One who can pay our sin penalty (Romans 6:23). No other religion teaches the depth or seriousness of sin and its consequences. No other religion offers the infinite payment of sin that only Jesus Christ could provide. No other “religious founder” was God
          become man (John 1:1,14) – the only way an infinite debt could be paid. Jesus had to be God so that He could pay our debt. Jesus had to be man so He could die. Salvation is available only through faith in Jesus Christ! “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

          Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus only-way.html#ixzz2oQDAW9j6

          You better stop worrying about me, I am Born Again of His Spirit, I am not the issue nor what you think are my mistakes/sins, the issue is whether or not you suffer never-ending torments in hell, or give up your pride, confess your sins and ask Jesus to save your soul.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Merry Christmas, Old Pal!

          • Neiman

            You are just not capable of stopping your lies (I am not your pal and the suggestion offends me and you know it) or stopping your sick obsession with me, are you? For Christmas, I hope you get paid psychiatric visits, you need urgent metal care help, You will excuse I am sure, but as you are about lying precious gay souls into hell and being an accomplice to the mass slaughter of over 55+ million helpless, innocent babies, if I do not wish you a merry Christmas. I only wish you would repent and ask Jesus to be your Savior.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Okey dokey Old Pal!
            Merry Christmas!

    • Yukon

      I don’t think his comments were racist, he was talking about his observations with the black community he worked and lived with back in the 60′s. What I understood from his comments is that we are all sinners and he does not judge, he treats everyone with respect. He just named some activities he felt were sins, homosexuality just happen to be one, he also mentioned people who sleep around. Where is the outrage from the sexual active people?

  • Steve Michel

    Happy holidays!

  • Spidey

    More Christian extremism brings discussion to scripture to surface:

    http://egbertowillies.com/2013/12/22/christian-anarchists-steal-merchandise/

    • Neiman

      More lies.

      If you cannot find justification in the New Testament or in the Life of Christ, then these people we acting outside the faith and to blame that on Christian extremism, is an attempt to attack Christ and His Church. What they did was wrong and they will suffer for their acts, as will you and this author that thought to use it to condemn evangelical Christianity, in favor of your Laodicean Church.

  • awfulorv

    As our lord and master was heard to utter, in speech reminiscent of Pooh Bear , “Oh bother, just let my family , and my 10,000 secret service agents, enjoy our Hawaiian vacation, in peace”.

  • LastBestHope

    SHOCKER: Jesse wants some of the Duck talk to be about him.

    “Jesse Jackson blasts Phil Robertson for being ‘more offensive’ than Rosa Parks bus driver as he demands to meet with A&E execs

    Civil rights leader said in a statement that at least the Alabama driver who sent Rosa Parks to the back of the bus was following state law

    Jackson and LGBT group GLAAD want to meet with A&E and Cracker Barrel execs to discuss future of Duck Dynasty

    Cracker Barrel decided to go back to selling Phil Robertson’s Duck Dynasty products after briefly pulling them off the shelves”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2529244/Jesse-Jackson-blasts-Phil-Robertson-offensive-Rosa-Parks-bus-driver-demands-meet-A-E-execs.html#ixzz2oaI2W91s

    • Bat 1

      Jesse is simply trying to run his extortion game on A&E and the Robertsons. He’s getting older now… and slower too. With all the backlash and support the Phil has generated, its already way too late for Jesse’s con to do much more than wither away from lack of interest.

  • banjo kid

    We face a real problem here , this has become a nation of thinned skinned people no matter the color we have become to thin skinned . I am called cracker and it does not brother me I have been called other things that did bother me but I considered the source and went about life. I can see a protest, that is free speach but to call for someone to be crucified losing their job what ever it is none sensical . Say what you want or believe and someone is going to be offended and also why is it the Christians should give up their holidays because it offends someone? that I could never figure out . I offends me what many say but they have the right to say it it does mean a conviction and a hanging though.. Lighten up people !

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