robert,

According to your article, “The next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful challengers for the presidential nomination this year — Mike Huckabee of Arkansas.”

Yea… the people who love Palin would next pick a semi-socialist “values”-monger who makes Republicans look like the villians from Footloose.

All right. Good luck to the GOP. The rest of us disenfranchised cocktail party Republicans will just have to sit it out until the Right finds the Center again.

Hell, forget us cocktail party Republicans. Its the voting youth that’s taking over. We know how much they love that 1950s morality comittee. Enjoy your party.

Because she will make us look stupid to the leaders of other nations who actually came to the United States to get their Ivy League educations. And yes, after this election, the Republican party ought to learn that image certainly matters.

I swear I heard this same kind of stuff about Reagan…

This is the United States of America, not Europe and some day Americans will accept that.

I used to disdane the “Ugly American” while traveling, now they make me feel safer. (probably no vest bombs on him/her)

It’s now to the point of what kind of world we will have LEFT after Obama and the Schumers, BBarney Franks, and his friends finish playing in their sandbox they’ve built.

It’s gonna be a tough as hell 4 years (2 anyway)…
Gird your wallet!

The rest of us disenfranchised cocktail party Republicans will just have to sit it out until the Right finds the Center again.

You epitomize the problem with the McCain campaign with that one sentence. As Ronald Reagan illustrated clearly, the more we contrast ourselves with the far left agenda of the present Dem Party, the more chance we have of winning. When we take a stand for the Constitution and the founding principles, we win. When we try to appease and pander to leftie bullshit, we lose. When the voters have a choice between left(McCain) and far left(Obama), they pick the more committed leftie. Fence-straddlers aren’t winners, no matter how much you would like to believe that.
The sooner we cleanse the RINOs, the better.

Scrambling all day to defend the Palin attacks eh?

Look. Let’s forget about what they’re saying she did or did not say. Let’s forget that she didn’t go to an Ivy school. She bounced around four colleges and got herself a B.S. in Journalism (the modern day equivalent of basket weaving). But hey, academics aren’t everything.

She proved herself a business woman by owning two businesses (a car wash and a marketing consultancy) that both went under before they did any business.

So she got no education, and she didn’t really go on to prove herself the autodidact… but she did manage to get elected mayor and then governor. Well… I guess if your ability to get elected to something speaks for your intellect. I. Am. Impressed.

Obama must be a fucking genius then.

She proved herself a business woman by owning two businesses (a car wash and a marketing consultancy) that both went under before they did any business.

That’s not close to correct. She was a stock holder in a car wash that never got enough capital to open. For a marketing firm, she asked for a license but never pursued it. But I do find that she’s half owner of her husbands fishing company, which, thought modest, always turns a profit.

That’s it? She provided capital to a start up business that failed, and pursued a license, but then never started the buisness? That makes her a failure? Surely you’re joking. Well, by your definition of failure, Warren Buffet and Gordon Ramsey are also failures. It’s impossible to take you seriously.

Let’s forget that she didn’t go to an Ivy school.

Who cares?

So she got no education, and she didn’t really go on to prove herself the autodidact… but she did manage to get elected mayor and then governor. Well… I guess if your ability to get elected to something speaks for your intellect. I. Am. Impressed.

Well, if Hairy says going to school means you got nothing for an education, SO BE IT!

Her political career has been pretty impressive. She’s shown herself to be a solid reformer, and has taken on her own party. She actually cut spending as a governor, and is th most popular governor in the nation.

If you’re not impressed by that, at least a little, you’re full of it.

Okay, she’s not a failure. She’s just a non-starter, like a vast majority of unexceptional people.

Based on what? She PROVIDED CAPITAL. The business never took off. She’s a governor for godsakes. Non-starter is an insanely stupid term for someone who was a VP nod.

That’s a line from the speeches. I know, I know, she’s a “rogue.” Where is the evidence? I don’t see it.

Then you haven’t looked. And you’re full of it if you claim otherwize. You have a tough job here Hairy. I’m the only one here who’s actually looked into her record and said “meh” from day one. I’ve argued with Robert, Rob, and others about her, saying she was mediocre at best.

If you don’t see Palin as a “maverick” which is to say, a centrist, you haven’t looked at her record at all.

So? Obama is obviously the most popular senator in the nation. I guess that ought to impress me.

It’s a tad different. An executive takes the blame for things that go wrong beyond their control (though they get credit for the things that go right). Only citizens under the governor voice their opinions in the popularity contest. A senator simply shows up and votes, takes no responsibility for any bad and all the credit for anything good. And he’s done nothing of consequence on a national stage (other than run) for people to judge. The comparison is bogus and you know it.

The point here is not how popular Palin is or how accomplished she is. The point is whether she is the right person to be the face of the Republican party. I think she is not. I think having her as the face shows just how much we have become the party of provincial, evangelical, anti-intellectuals.

I agree. Palin is not the face of the Republican party. She’s a RINO. She’s a lackluster conservative, and I don’t really want her. However, if she WAS a conservative, she is the face we would need and want. And, like always, you’re too bloody stuck up to see value in normal people.

And yes Rob, I do say provincial. Not because of how she speaks, but because she is not “sophisticated” enough to name five national newspapers. Because she will make us look stupid to the leaders of other nations who actually came to the United States to get their Ivy League educations. And yes, after this election, the Republican party ought to learn that image certainly matters.

Because she couldn’t name 5 newspapers that SHAPED HER WORLDVIEW? Anyone who could answer that question…I don’t want as a leader. And if you care about that answer…it shows you to be as vapid as I’ve always expected.

http://patterico.com/2008/09/10/politico-hit-piece-claims-palin-addicted-to-pork-earmarks-contrary-to-her-campaign-position/

The bulk of AK’s earmarks go to funding the unfunded federal mandates.

Fail.

Another thing that amuses me about the gotcha stabs at Palin and her increase in spending:

-Name the items that the left always wants to build when discussing how to get the economy going: Roads and Bridges

-What was Palin’s highest state budgetary item in her “increased” budget: Roads and Bridges

Make up your mind Hairy.

She cut wasteful spending, spent more money where it was needed (where is the Palin library again?), and reduced the amount of unnecessary earmarks.

Again, please enlighten me oh wondrous Hairy, what am I missing?

I swear I heard this same kind of stuff about Reagan…

Yes. From the liberal media trying to marginalize him. You didn’t hear it from other Republicans who clearly want the party to succeed. Reagan didn’t sound like an idiot — the media tried to make him sound like one. Palin doesn’t need help from the media, she does it all herself.

Those people are the ones who need to be taken down after the media: they should never be allowed to work in conservative politics again.

But first the media. We need a new media.

Yet you can’t name them. And you’re stupidly comparing her UNfavorably to Obama.

I am not comparing her unfavorably to Obama. I am comparing her image unfavorably to Obama’s. The Republican party has forgotten that this is a center-right nation, not a RIGHT nation. There are Republicans who either voted Obama or simply did not vote this year because they are tired of hearing from social conservatives going “God this” and “God that” in every speech they give.

They are tired of hearing about book banning. And yes, I know that the media trumped that one up to make it sound more serious than it was. She was just testing her staff’s loyalty we’re told.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to go THAT route of testing your staff’s loyalty? Are you completely oblivious to what it makes you sound like? She may have not meant to sound like a book burner, but her STUPID decision certainly damaged her image.

She’s a demagogue? How so? Because she had a baby that had Down Syndrome?

No. I’m not really sure where you got that. You guys are like abortion crazy. It’s always pro/anti abortion with you.

She’s a demagogue because she riles people up about spending and earmarks while her personal record fails on both counts.

“In nearly two years as governor, she has presided over a 31% spending hike by a state government that sought earmarks from Washington even as it reaped billions from higher oil prices and Palin-backed tax increases on oil companies.”

So I’ll make you a deal. Let’s see how Alaska fairs over the next four years, now that oil is down. If Palin proves herself an able Governor, I will take back everything I said and support her wholeheartedly. (I’ll still bitch about the fact that she can’t name five newspapers and doesn’t know that fruit fly research = genetic research… maybe she’ll study up on that stuff too.) But this year, she was a bad face for the party.

we all saw the couric interview. i could smell the toast burning. c’mon.

We also all saw the videos of Obama without his teleprompter. Apparently that was OK with you, though. Double standard, Sparkie.

Yes, because she could not name 5 newspapers that shaped her worldview. What else shapes your world view? The rumor-mill? TV? How does she know what’s going on in the world? God told her?
No one asked her to endorse 5 newspapers, just name some. Jeez.

My friends, my family, my faith. Facts. Anyone who answers this question is stupid. “What newspaper shapes your worldview?” “US News” Moron.

I think the point is that her VP nod was for all the wrong reasons. McCain tried to look like he was doing “change” too. Bleh. She obviously did not deserve the nod.

Yet you can’t name them. And you’re stupidly comparing her UNfavorably to Obama. And now that you’re being called on it by someone else who’s not impressed with Palin, you’re fumbling.

This is the key here. I may or may not be as stuck-up as you say. But a majority of young voters certainly are stuck up. And they will continue voting for the party that brings them young, charismatic “intellectuals.” Not the party that brings them a religious demagogue whose personal life exemplifies the failure of her beliefs. (And yes, I am talking about her pregnant daughter, and I do think it reflects poorly on your decision-making when you advocate a type of sex-ed where you first-hand experience of its worthlessness.)

And thank you for proving my point. “Hey moron, traffic is moving, don’t walk out….” Squish. Well, I guess telling people not to play is traffic is foolish. Because someone ignored my warning and died or went to the hospital as a result.

You keep piling on yourself, as someone who is, once again, clueless. She’s a demagogue? How so? Because she had a baby that had Down Syndrome? You’re a joke dude. And each response sounds less intelligent and more stuck up. The more you’re cornered, the more you dig in with invective, because it’s clear that the facts are not on your side.

Yes. From the liberal media trying to marginalize him. You didn’t hear it from other Republicans who clearly want the party to succeed. Reagan didn’t sound like an idiot–the media tried to make him sound like one. Palin doesn’t need help from the media, she does it all herself.

Um, try again Chuckles. Reagan was criticzed by Republicans all the time. Fake conservatives like yourself, hostile to life, religion, service and values have always existed. No real conservative would mock Palin while exalting Obama. You may like smaller taxes, but the rest of the true colors are shining thru.

HPL: Time to wake up! Sarah has a 91% approval rate among GOP voters, according to Rasmussen. You’re in a tiny minority, trying to deflect attention from McCain’s abject failure as a leader.

Educate yourself:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain

Hell hath no fury like a leftist who encounters a female or African-American who doesn’t need him/her. Thus, the high-tech lowbrow lynching of Clarence Thomas and the current unseemly attacks on Sarah Palin. How else to account for the shroud of discreet silence over the John Edwards affair vs. the airing of every possible rumor and smear about Palin and her children?

So think twice before you rely upon the MSM to keep you abreast of the news, because that’s no breast, it’s feces.

Robert108:

We also all saw the videos of Obama without his teleprompter. Apparently that was OK with you, though. Double standard, Sparkie.

Actually Obama looked 10x worse.

Sparkie was just too busy fellating him to notice.

superficial things. Like maybe where she’s from. Or how she talks.

rob,
we all saw the couric interview. i could smell the toast burning. c’mon.