Jerry, That would be a GREAT campaign add! I love it!

How sad for all of US that a man like Obama could actually be this close to the Presidency?

No, not sad. It is incredibly good news for the country. That was a question wasn’t it?

Obama is as much of a socialist as you are a facist.

Hannitized, Obama is a Socialist! Can you honestly not see that fact? Socialism is much closer to Fascism than my political and economic philosophy, which is a combination of moderate conservatism and belief in free markets.

Zsa Zsa,

You need to learn a lot more about socialists before you attempt to label anyone with that title.

Here is a small list of their platform. Tell me which ones Obama supports. K?

1. We call for the closing of all U.S. military facilities at home and abroad that train foreign military and paramilitary personnel.
2. We call for the United States to immediately and unconditionally withdraw its forces from Iraq and Afghanistan.
3. We call for an end to the U.S. occupation of the province of Guantanamo, Cuba.
4. We call for an end to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank-East Jerusalem and Gaza, and an end to all U.S. aid to Israel, as a precondition for peace.
5. We support an immediate cutoff of all U.S. military aid to Colombia, and all other recipients.
6. We call for the abolition of the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, and all other institutions of covert warfare.
7. We stand for unconditional disarmament by the United States.
8. We call for an international treaty outlawing all weapons of mass destruction, including the use of depleted uranium in conventional weapons.
9. We call for an immediate 50% cut in the military budget, followed by additional cuts, with the aim of rapidly reducing the military budget to less than 10% of its current level, with the “peace dividend” directed to essential social services and to the cost of cleaning up contaminated military sites.
10. We call for the disbanding of NATO and all other aggressive military alliances, and the closing of all overseas bases.
11. We call for an end to U.S. arms sales throughout the world.
12. We call for the U.S. to pay off its debts to the United Nations, an end to veto power in the UN, and an end to permanent membership on the UN Security Council.
13. We call for a constitutional amendment requiring a binding vote of the people on all issues of war or military intervention.
14. We support the right of soldiers to form unions to represent their views and interests.

And here is where I can admit when I was proven wrong.

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/mccain_ad_obama_pandering_on_energy/

The difference between that example and yours is that you pathetically are spinning in circles and think I am the one who is dizzy.

Zsa Zsa if a fool and you are a liar.

PP,

What in THE HELL, are you talking about. What did the question say???/

It said: “Would you be willing to meet separately without preconditions during the first year of your administration in Washington or anywhere else with the LEADERS of Iran, ect. ect.

The word was LEADERS you dishonest person.

I asked you to find an example where he said he would meet with Ahmadinejad specifically and you could not.

Leaders PP? That was my original argument, leaders, and you know it.

You are a lying dishonest man.

Yes, Hannitzed:

The question was specific to leaders. And as I clearly stated above, there is the Supreme Leader who is above Ahmadinijad.

That from the guy who claims he only wants to have an honest debate and is willing to admit when he is wrong!

Hahaha! Yes, oh yes… take me to your “Supreme Leader”!

supreme leader… Hahahahahaha! Like Obama didn’t know who the question was about! Is there a secret supreme leader in Syria too? Hahahaha!

And you have the gall to suggest that the Obama clan wants you to represent them!! Hahahahahaha!

The US Socialist party is NOT the only representative of Socialist thought, although I appreciate the extensive cutting and pasting. Look up Socialism in a dictionary. I fear that Obama subscribes to the philosophy. Do you truly not believe so?

Getting back to the CNN poll for a moment. I mean, I love labeling ppl socialists as much as the next guy, but back to the topic, eh?

From what I understand, CNN’s sample breakdown was based on the ACTUAL viewer percentages. It is not CNN’s fault (omg, I am actually defending CNN!) that the Republicans either do not own televisions or were otherwise engaged. And the country is not 33/33/33 at the moment, but that is besides the point. What was the point again? Oh, yeah, CNN poll. So, in any case, there you have it. They used data that reflected REALITY. And I know, I know, sometimes reality is just plain WRONG and has a leftist bias. But such is reality. If you don’t like it, get your own.

Oh, and speaking of alternative realities, I am not up on my Faux News, I admit. But apparently they have some guy named Mr. Kurtz. Now, the name, I admit, sounds leftist. But he is on Faux News, so how leftist can he be, esp. with the task they charged him with. In any case, before I lose my train of thought, and this is a good one. This Kurtz dude, right, he was trusted with picking Faux News sample audience. You know, for the debate. And guess what happened?
No, you will never guess.
So I will tell you. Now, this is all Internet and stuff, and probably wrong and based on a leftist rumor. But, in any case, this Faux News stuffed audience of faux shills posing as independents, those shills actually gave it to Obama. I mean, what’s up with that? Clearly Faux is just making back up plans for, you know…if the unthinkable happens. But who knows, this Kurtz guy could be a socialist. I’m just thinking….

I’m just thinking….

Clearly not. But thanks for playing!

And we should be surprised that cnn picked obama as the winner? Waiting for the brown shirts and swastikas! seig heil all!

Say, Rob, did you explain the disparity in the Drudge poll you posted?

And ZZ, you’ll get over it.

Here Zsa Zsa,

Select more positions of the US Socialist party that you think is honky-dory with Obama:

Bill of Rights
The Socialist Party is committed to the rights of free speech, free press, free assembly, and personal privacy, and the freedom of religious choice through the separation of church and state.

1. We condemn the so-called War on Terrorism and call for the immediate repeal of the U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T Acts and the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act.
2. We call for the elimination of the Dept.of Homeland Security and the sweeping police powers accorded to it.
3. We demand the exclusion of the military from domestic law enforcement.
4. We call for the abolition of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
5. We oppose so-called anti-terrorist measures and criminal code reforms that restrict legitimate dissent.
6. We oppose all forms of censorship both legislative and institutional

Immigration
The Socialist Party works to build a world in which everyone will be able to freely move across borders, to visit and to live wherever they choose.

We recognize the central role global capitalism plays in forcing the immigration of people from the less developed to the more industrialized countries, often leading to further economic and social injustice.

1. We support secular democratic states, assuring equal rights to every citizen and resident in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
2. We oppose the militarization of the United States/Mexican border, and an increase in the service budget instead of the “military” budget of the INS.
3. We defend the rights of all immigrants to education, health care, and full civil and legal rights and call for an unconditional amnesty program for all undocumented people. We oppose the imposition of any fees on those receiving amnesty.
4. We call for an end to the use of “secret evidence” in deportation hearings, a ban on all immigration detentions and military tribunals, and full due process and habeus corpus rights in U.S. courts for all non-citizens on U.S. territory or in U.S. custody.
5. We demand an end to police raids in areas where immigrants congregate.
6. We oppose “guest worker” programs. We call for full citizenship rights upon demonstrating residency for six months.

Free and Fair Elections
The Socialist Party stands for political activity independent of the two major corporate parties. We view electoral activity as an important component of the struggle for fundamental social change. Participation as socialists in local, state, and national elections is a valuable way to clarify our position on a wide range of issues, of broadly disseminating our principles and programs, and of asserting and reaffirming our commitment to the democratic process. We believe that capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with democracy and that true democracy can only be achieved with society’s transformation to socialism.

1. We support the public financing of candidates for public office as long as this funding extends to the candidates of alternative political parties.
2. We call for strict limits on the use of personal funds in elections, either for one’s own campaign or for that of another candidate.
3. We oppose representation based on anything other than population.
4. We support the introduction of proportional representation at every level of government.
5. We call for uniform ballot access laws for all states that give all political parties a chance to have their candidates on the ballot.
6. We call for the closing of the loophole sanctioned by the Supreme Court which allows candidates to spend an unlimited sum of their personal wealth on their own campaigns.
7. We call for the elimination of the Electoral College and support instant run-off voting of all elected officials.
8. We stand opposed to the disenfranchising of any U.S. citizen by the federal, state, or local government.
9. We demand greater access to media for all political parties and free, equal access to all forms of mass media for all candidates
10. We call for full representation for the U.S. territories of Guam and Puerto Rico, all Native American reservations, and the District of Columbia.
11. We call for the restoration of the right to vote for all citizens incarcerated in jails and prisons
12. We call for a mandatory paper trail of all votes to allow for recounts and verification.

You have to consider what the people were looking for last night.
1) does Obama have what it takes to be Commander in Chief, and
2) does McCain have what it takes to handle the economy?

I think if you weigh how these two did on proving their meddle on these two proving points, it’s easy to understand today’s polls.

Or, more accurately, doesn’t accurately sample the public at large.

By the way, love the “YOU DID IT TOO!!!” defense.

Ever the child, aren’t you Puzzled?

Help The USA first .