Actually, Lenin had quite a small bodycount, by state-socialist standards, he died too early on. It was Stalin and Mao who managed the biggest tallies.

Again vert displays his ignorance.

In 1917 my Great Grandfather and his wife and 2 children fled Russia on foot. During their trek to Eastern Europe his wife and children died from starvation and disease. He made it and re-married. My mother’s maiden name is very Russian. Lenin killed millions. He was as bad as Pol Pot.

AV: Are you trying to sell the concept that Stalin didn’t learn anything from Lenin? Ridiculous! Lenin killed as many as he could, like the Mensheviks.

Actually, Lenin had quite a small bodycount, by state-socialist standards, he died too early on. It was Stalin and Mao who managed the biggest tallies.

Neiman, it’s quite interesting that you quote Alexander Solzhenitsyn as he thought that the capitalist west might be even more immoral than the state-socialist countries.

Actually, Lenin had quite a small bodycount, by state-socialist standards…

Lenin is Responsible for 4 million murdered. Not so bad, per AV.

AV is one sick fuck.

* The 1917 revolution – A disaster. A tragedy for Russia and the world that the Reds won. An appalling step backwards into tyranny. An appalling crime to replace the Tsar with Lenin’s murderous tyranny, a thousand times more murderous than the Tsar’s regime.

The Lenin / Trotsky period, 1917-24

* Some people think Lenin and Trotsky were “not as bad” as Stalin, that the 1917 revolution was not criminal from the start, but only became criminal later. This is one of the greatest lies in history. Lenin and Trotsky killed 4 million people – men, women and children – by mass executions, death camps, and state-caused famine. See [The Black Book of Communism] for a good introduction to their genocide, which started as soon as they got into power in 1917.

* The resistance

o All across the Russian countryside in 1917-22, there were riots and uprisings as heroic peasants tried desperately to hold on to their freedom. They were well aware of the nature of the scum that had taken over their country. These forgotten heroes were killed by the million. Their families – men, women and children – were executed or sent to death camps. Their villages were burnt, and even bombed with chemical weapons by the monsters Lenin and Trotsky.

o Russian White Guard and Anti-Communism movement

o The Tambov rebellion of 1920

o It is true that the anti-communist resistance came in many forms, from liberal democrats to socialist anarchists to Jew-hating nationalists. The latter carried out hundreds of pogroms of Jews. In some areas, the Russian civil war was a conflict between communism and democracy. In other areas, it was a conflict between communism and fascism. But no crimes by (some of) their enemies can justify the crimes of Lenin and Trotsky.

* The famine

o The Bolsheviks destroyed Russia’s economy. By 1920 the ruble had lost 96 percent of its value.

o Lenin and Trotsky’s oppression became ferocious as the cities ran out of food due to the collapse of the economy, caused by themselves and their stupid Marxist ideas. Innocent rural Russia was robbed of its food and butchered and starved by the parasitical (literally) urban communists.

o The Bolsheviks started a massive program of confiscating the food of the countryside, and starved them into submission. The monsters Lenin and Trotsky deliberately started a famine as a political weapon. They caused the massive famine of 1921-2, deliberately killing 2.5 million men, women and little children, according to [Rudolph J. Rummel], or 5 million, according to [The Black Book of Communism].

* The genocide of the Cossacks in 1919

* The Red Terror in Russia, Sergei Melgunov, 1925 – about the early Bolshevik atrocities, under Lenin.