She is a good spokeperson for conservatives.

Because she opposes gay marriage? That’s dumb.

What are her opinions about taxes? Spending? The proper role of government in our society?

You don’t know, and that’s the problem.

Yeah Rob, we all know how much you love homosexuals, so don’t bother with the window dressing. As we have previously spelled out ad nauseum, Special Rights for Homos cannot peacefully exist with Middle American values and Judeo-Christian beliefs.

Special Rights for Homos means crushing free speech, the free exercise of religion and rights of association for the other 98 percent of us who aren’t homosexual.

So Maximum Liberty is a complete and utter lie, akin to Global Warming and all the other lies pumped out by Leftists. That you should ignore all the facts brought before you and presented in numerous threads (thanks for the bandwidth, BTW) and fail to present any counter-evidence demonstrates willful ignorance on your part.

The true reason you have for championing homosexuals over the rest of society is anybody’s guess, but one thing is clear — it’s not based on logic or established facts.

As you have condemn her for saying and believe (really knowing) that marriage was intended soley as a union between 1 man and 1 woman, you also condemn us that believe the same.

Amen.

C’mon Snark – Cat – Sybil,

You’re trotting out all the same old lies that have been debunked as so much propaganda. You greatly rely on the hope that others just don’t know the truth, so you spew falsehoods about how neat and cute Homos are and how really they are just looking to be treated like anyone else.

In reality, they brutalize and victimize kids, despise and seek to destroy the moral fabric of society, and are still the primary vector of AIDS/HIV in addition to a raft of other STD’s and opportunistic infections.

Yeah, let’s talk about Homosexuals as a disease vector extraordinaire:

Homosexuality – a Clear and Present Danger

And do they go after kiddies, particularly little boys??

BIG TIME, on several orders of magnitude over Heterosexuals:

Homosexual’s Primary Target – Children

Propagandize Homosexuality, Ban Religion, Legalize Pedophilia

Thousands beaten, raped in Irish reform schools

Are these diseased polesmokers diseased in the head before they get diseases in their bodies?

You bet!

The Psychopathology of Homosexuality

You Homos are completely predictable at this point:

You will call me hateful, you will call me bigoted, and you even have an odd way of attacking your detractors, you will call me Gay-too.

I suppose you figure that if I am as filthy as you then I will be silenced.

Nice try.

Ain’t gonna happen.

And there’s something I know that you won’t do: support your proposition with counter-facts or logic.

On this aspect, many of the politically-based studies Homos have come up with are as fictional junk science in the same manner as the Global Warming theory. And for the same purpose. To indirectly achieve an aim, destructive of society.

The purpose is not really Gay Rights, per se, it is the destruction of the moral structure of society and particularly the Church and the Nuclear Family.

I doubt you’ll even visit the links I have provided, much less read their content, but others have and they know you and your butt-buddies are full of crap.

As you have condemn her for saying and believe (really knowing) that marriage was intended soley as a union between 1 man and 1 woman, you also condemn us that believe the same.

Two disease-free homosexual men in a monogamous relationship are at no more risk of contracting HIV than a disease-free heterosexual male and female in a monogamous relationship. They both have a ZERO percent chance of contracting the disease.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we’ve held all the BS before. It’s a lie that’s provably false.

A Los Angeles study conducted in the late 1980s found that male homosexuals averaged over 20 partners per year… ” gay men aren’t very good at having and holding lovers…(because) gay men tire of their partners (sexually) more rapidly than straight men.” … the average homosexual male first “seeks (sexual) novelty in partners, rather than practices, and becomes massively promiscuous; (but) eventually, all bodies become boring, and only new practices will thrill. ” The cheating ratio of ‘married’ [committed] gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.

In Spain, the average homosexual sexual encounters for men were 42 per year in 1989.

Homosexuals in the United States and Denmark – the latter of which is acknowledged to be highly tolerant of homosexuality – both die on average in their early 50′s, or in their 40′s if AIDS is the cause of death. The average age for all residents in either country ranges from the mid-to-upper-70s.

In Holland, male homosexual relationships last an average of 1.5 years, and gay men have an average of eight partners a year outside of their supposedly “committed” relationships. … The contribution of steady and casual partnerships to the incidence of HIV infection among homosexual men in Amsterdam.

Sexual Partners Often Unknown

The Kinsey Institute study revealed that 79% of the respondents said that over half of their sexual partners were strangers.

The same Kinsey study found that 75% of homosexual men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime, while 28% of homosexual males surveyed claimed more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners!…

And they have other problems as well.

So spare us the Homosexuals are normal, just different bullshit. They are diseased and deviants.

I guess that makes you diseased and deviant, most likely.

Yeah, I don’t think you’re going to like me very much.

Besides all the other negatives of homosexuality, Special Rights for Homos have invariably translated into steamrollering religion, forced indoctrination in schools, universities and the workplace, with dire consequences for anyone who DARES question the PC line that Homos Are Just Peachy.

“Zig presents facts that are VERY inconvenient…but facts nonetheless.

Homo sex is a disease ridden plague on civilization. All medical data confirms this. And yet the tragic fact is, IT’S ALL SELF INFLICTED by those who lust in a perverse way that causes HIV.

GOD is not mocked…and the wages of sin is death.”

Jesus Christ, I’m not even gay, but I have to refute your ignorance.

Two disease-free homosexual men in a monogamous relationship are at no more risk of contracting HIV than a disease-free heterosexual male and female in a monogamous relationship. They both have a ZERO percent chance of contracting the disease.

Gay sex does not “cause” HIV. This is scientifically not true. I’m not surprised that a bible thumping jesus freak like yourself doesn’t know that.

“Not all G/BM are the same: there are very wide and important variations in our sexual behaviors. Some for example, are pretty much monogamous with only one partner for long periods of time. Others report hundreds or even thousands of partners”

That doesn’t explain straight people at all EITHER!

Actually, it does. Show me a person who has had sex with one person in their lifetime and I’ll show you a sucker. One must simply protect themself.

If you want to provide some actual facts look towards some primary academic literature, not the hate sites you have linked in your profile.

I’m learning I dislike illogical conservatives more than I dislike homosexuals.

Abortion is #1 though. They could vote exactly as you wish on limited government, lower taxes, less spending, but if they are not ultra extremist against abortion, it’s a no go on the vote.

If we do not have the right to life, we have no rights.

Special Rights for Homos means crushing free speech, the free exercise of religion and rights of association for the other 98 percent of us who aren’t homosexual.

Nonsense. Liberal pandering to racial and sexual groups violates your liberties. But then again you’re an evil white male…so no one really cares.

What are her opinions about taxes? Spending? The proper role of government in our society?

You know it only takes one thing to be a good con rob, abortion, or guns. Choose one, or both then you are uber con.

Abortion is #1 though. They could vote exactly as you wish on limited government, lower taxes, less spending, but if they are not ultra extremist against abortion, it’s a no go on the vote.

…a martyr for the anti-gay marriage movement…

Spin, spin, spin, Rob! In the first place, she was asked that provocative question by a homo troll, and answered it honestly, which is her individual choice. Her actual stance was to support real marriage.
So, she never intended to be any sort of “martyr”, and there is no “anti-gay(sic) marriage movement”. Instead, real Americans don’t want real marriage to be hijacked by a cadre of activists trying to use the courts to deny individual rights.

Why have the conservatives let themselves be hijacked by the religious right? I have begun considering many libertarian/conservatives as I age. Gun control simply doesn’t make sense to me. Neither does UNREGULATED welfare. However, the unambiguous fact that super religious conservatives are the most two faced people on the planet leaves me baffeled and unable to align myself with them.

Right to life with one breath and death to homosexuals and death row inmates. Doesn’t God preach forgiveness?

Absolute civil liberties with one breath. In the other, conservatives believe they have the right to smoke pot in my home or collectively bargain with my fellow workers.

I suggest that you super religious conservatives start paying more attention to conservatives like Rob and Ron Paul. (Yes, I know Ron Paul is anti-abortion.) While I mostly disagree with most things Rob believes in he isn’t championing the extermination of entire segments of the human population.

Trump said: “To me she was the sweetest thing. Everyone else–she treated like s**t.”

And I think that has a lot to do with her attitude in general. She is as phony as her breasts.

Why have the conservatives let themselves be hijacked by the religious right? I have begun considering many libertarian/conservatives as I age. Gun control simply doesn’t make sense to me. Neither does UNREGULATED welfare. However, the unambiguous fact that super religious conservatives are the most two faced people on the planet leaves me baffeled and unable to align myself with them.

Right to life with one breath and death to homosexuals and death row inmates. Doesn’t God preach forgiveness?

Absolute civil liberties with one breath. In the other, conservatives believe they have the right to smoke pot in my home or collectively bargain with my fellow workers.

I suggest that you super religious conservatives start paying more attention to conservatives like Rob and Ron Paul. (Yes, I know Ron Paul is anti-abortion.) While I mostly disagree with most things Rob believes in he isn’t championing the extermination of entire segments of the human population.

Let me address your whole rant. You believe religious people are the most two face people in the whole world and then you pull some of the worst examples I have ever seen to illustrate this point.

A) Right to life is a no brainer. I have never wished death on Homosexuals. The religious I know have never wished death on homosexuals.

B) The death penalty. Why does this trip you up? I see you are getting the concept of forgiveness and justice a little messed up. Forgiveness is typically defined as the process of concluding resentment, indignation or anger as a result of a perceived offense. Justice is judgment involved in the determination of rights and the assignment of rewards and punishments. To me this is all about free choice, I am right to life because if two people have sex and decide to abort the baby, the only person to bear the brunt of the “mistake” is the child. He or she is dead, without any form of due process. You can play all of the games you like and call it a fetus but its a human child. It’s DNA has the exact amount of chromosomes as you. It can be nothing else. In the death penalty case, we are executing a criminal. These people know their crime is wrong. They chose to commit them anyway. If you are an adult and I you are told not to murder someone and if you do you will face the death penalty, then when you murder someone, I would have no problem sentencing them to death. You see they chose their path, they get to pay the price. Somehow, you bring up forgiveness. God does expect us to forgive people. I have no problem forgiving them. Forgiveness does not mean they will face no penalty for their actions. I know you believe this too. If I run a red light, drunk, and smash into your car. You may forgive me for my actions if I ask you but I’m sure that doesn’t mean you don’t expect me to pay for your car or if I injure someone in your car to walk away a freeman. In our system of justice, it wouldn’t matter what you (as an example only) as an atheist, agnostic, libertarian, preacher, whatever think anyway. Your crime will be prosecuted as an offense to public order. Your feelings on the matter will have little to do with it. How are holding these beliefs two faced? In both cases I want to person that is being put to death to be responsible for his or her actions. The baby should be spared because he or she is innocent, pro-life, the murder should face justice because he or she knew or should have known the results of their actions, pro death penalty.

C) I know no conservatives that are pro marijuana. I’m sure they are there but I know none. I absolutely no religious conservatives that are pro marijuana. I laugh at your collective bargaining accusation. I don’t know any conservatives that have anything good to say about the union. That’s a democrat stronghold.

D) I’ve already addressed the strawman about killing whole segments of the population.

Zig presents facts that are VERY inconvenient…but facts nonetheless.

Homo sex is a disease ridden plague on civilization. All medical data confirms this. And yet the tragic fact is, IT’S ALL SELF INFLICTED by those who lust in a perverse way that causes HIV.

GOD is not mocked…and the wages of sin is death.

“Homosexuality by definition involves two people of the same sex. Age doesn’t enter into the equation.

And, as a highly religious person, you mocking people like me is unwarranted. You’re nowhere near my intelligence level.”

You want to talk about intelligence? By your logic I can compare heterosexuals to peophilia. Men rape little girls and women rape boys. Look no further than Florida for a plethora of fat, overweight women having sex with fourteen year olds. You are trying to make a false comparison. It may work on mindless people who believe Noah gathered up two of every animal, but not on me.

As far as intelligence goes, bring it on. As a Biochemistry and Molecular Biology major I would LOVE to discuss anything of the Natural World with you.

“And, as a highly religious person, you mocking people like me is unwarranted. You’re nowhere near my intelligence level.”
This sentence does not make sense.

“As a highly religious person, you?”

Are you calling me a highly religious person? Why is your adjective phrase dragging so helplessly behind your antecedent?

I may not be very religious, but I do understand basic grammar.

Actually, it’s THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, based off of the Hebrew translation, copied diligently through many Hebrew scholars.

The “Thou shalt not kill” is a mistranslation.

The entire state of California is circling the bowl. Can’t blame her for not wanting that crown. Get out while you can Carrie.

Trump said: “To me she was the sweetest thing. Everyone else–she treated like s**t.”

Seems fair. Everyone else treated her like shit as well.

Death penalty. You are missing the argument. As a Christian, you should believe that life is precious no matter what. You are trying to throw up a smoke screen with your argument. I’m not saying that murderers should be set free. I do not believe they should be put to death because I believe murder is WRONG in ANY form

Oh no, you don’t get to tell me what to believe as a Christian. Murder, is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent (or malice aforethought. Executing someone after due process is the exact opposite of “murder”.

Like I said.

Sockpuppet Meow,

You lie.

I’ve made one joke, to the effect that the Prom Queen, should be buried 12 feet under (not six) because — deep down — was a good person.

Certainly it was a joke in poor taste, but I further pointed out that it was a joke and I would not apologize for it since the real damage was being caused by the homosexuals themselves:

- by the wide-spread rape of children, primarily young boys,

- by poisoning the public blood supply and the donor organ supply with AIDS/HIV;

- by costing society $600,000.00 for each AIDs patient;

- and by the hundreds of thousands of dead and dying of AIDS and other infectious diseases, caused primarily by their inability to curb their deviant sexual urges.

On top of that, I have heard zero homosexuals apologize for the damage they are inflicting on my society and for the filth they peddle, or for the invective they direct against my Country and my religion.

I don’t have to wish death on homosexuals, you homos are doing a bang-up job all by yourselves.

I believe it probably had to do with those 30 events. I would like to see what they were – I think they set her up to get rid of her. She is a good spokeperson for conservatives.

Here in eight or so years it will be the pedos. If they follow the gays book they will get the 9th district court to let a bunch of the patents on the board that says what is a mental illness and what is not. Thats how we got saddled up with this mess. Its the same illness anyway.

You cant say we a taking liberties from people that have all the same rights that i do. Just beaus they refuse to take them. Get some help already.

Personally, I think she’s using her 15 minutes of fame to shuck her original responsibilities
She didn’t do her job she gets canned. So be it. Everyone knows you have to deserve to keep your job and if you fail you’re replaced. That’s the way the grown up world works and now she knows.

Let it go, Zig. It was a long time ago. He may have said he loved you, even convinced you to give him your “mystery hole” but you have to move on. He’s moved on. There’s other men out there for you.

“Gays are promiscous and pass on diseases. They may not “create” the virus, but they certainly are a disease vector.”

The problem with religious right conservatives is their inability to use facts in their arguments. Have you any proof that gay people are any more “promiscous [sic]” than heterosexuals? That homosexuals care less about disease?

Plenty of soldiers came back from Nam with an itching in their Johnson. Plenty of heterosexuals commit adultery. I’m not unintelligent enough to claim that heterosexuals or homosexuals have been “proven” to be more sexually deviant than the other.

Death penalty. You are missing the argument. As a Christian, you should believe that life is precious no matter what. You are trying to throw up a smoke screen with your argument. I’m not saying that murderers should be set free. I do not believe they should be put to death because I believe murder is WRONG in ANY form.

Comparing homosexuals to pedophiles is…well, easy to defeat. Pedophilia by definition does not involve two consenting adults. Homosexuality does.

Further evidence that extremely religious people, especially on this board, generally do not possess good logic.

She did, she said almost word for word what Obama said about gay marriage.

Greg, my first thought was ‘brilliant rebuttal’ but everyone knew Obama didn’t mean it, he was just saying that to get elected.
Now I’m sad over the state of mankind… again.

It’s always a big conspiracy with you people, innit?

While I mostly disagree with most things Rob believes in he isn’t championing the extermination of entire segments of the human population.

Strawman much? The only person that calls for the extermination of entire segments of the population is Dino.

I’m not telling you what to believe as a christian. Your bible does. I believe it says “Thou Shalt Not Kill” correct? Not, “Though Shalt Not Kill Unless Thou Kills.”

Let me guess. You are opposed to the Death Penalty, right catblow? But “pro choice, right? Save the most evil and kill the most innocent, right?

Actually, it’s THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, based off of the Hebrew translation, copied diligently through many Hebrew scholars.

The “Thou shalt not kill” is a mistranslation.

Bingo! We have a winner.

Why have the conservatives let themselves be hijacked by the religious right? I have begun considering many libertarian/conservatives as I age. Gun control simply doesn’t make sense to me. Neither does UNREGULATED welfare. However, the unambiguous fact that super religious conservatives are the most two faced people on the planet leaves me baffeled and unable to align myself with them.

I wouldn’t say that all religious people are two-faced, but there is a pretty serious strain of hypocrisy running through the religious right. They’re pro-liberty, as long as its the sort of liberty they approve of.

She is a good spokeperson for conservatives.

Because she opposes gay marriage? That’s dumb.

What are her opinions about taxes? Spending? The proper role of government in our society?

You don’t know, and that’s the problem.