As for the whole “rights” business, Charlio and Hairy Polemic already had the exact same right to marry as me or anyone else did, regardless of their sexual orientations. What they have now, at least in CA and MA, is a special right, because of their orientation.

You want a second class marriage? Be my guest — marry someone of your own gender and tell yourself that separate really is “equal” after all.

This reality is played out in legalized abortion.

Your perspective is refreshing and open to discussion. See you around soon.

It is one thing to kill off the weak and feeble as well as every jew. It is another to kill off millions of innocent, defenseless unborn children and justify it with corrupted science.

Or innocent Ukranians, or Armenians.

I’m hearing that the gay marriage issue will be put to California voters in the form of a referendum this Fall. Is this true? What are he odds?

The Initiative process is written by the voters behind the initiative and the California Supreme Court, as it has in the past, will simply say some words are unconstitutional and throw it out and overrule the people. I know, I live in this craphole!

Yeah Hairy, for this outrageous court decision, one could say that it is without merit and has no basis in fact, and as such it should not be obeyed.

Fine, don’t get married.

Please consult Federalist #11 and #51. That is as much free education as I will give you. After this, you’ll be getting invoices.–

I cite the Law of the Land, you cite opinions. I don’t remember the Supreme Court giving any rulings on the Federalist Papers. You can spin them any way you want, there is no “right” to be married, if you don’t meet the requirements. End of story.
Your tiny minority wants to change one requirement(the most basic one) to suit your selfish reasons, at the expense of all the rest of us.
BTW, do you have any numbers on the actual percentage of gay people who even want to hijack the institution of marriage for themselves?
This whole so-called “gay marriage” flap is really over politics, and has nothing whatsoever to do with the benefit of the vast majority who isn’t “gay”.

“We the people” has, under a liberal judiciary (Kleptocracy) in America, become an anachronism; that is, the Left sees it as a time worn idea that belongs to previous centuries and a positive hindrance to their liberal, secular and anti-Christian agenda. For a long time, especially in California, the people have become subjects of a ruling elite in the Supreme Court that ignores the will of the people in favor of their socialist agenda.

Well written Nieman. As TDR used to say, ‘Bully! Bully! ‘

To those who have been trying to allege that this is merely an interpretation of the California Constitution, really beware when Leftists are allowed to interpret anything. When they can’t get what they want by plain meaning or majority vote, they resort to more devious means. That behavior was on clear display when William Jefferson Benedict Arnold Clinton weaseled, ‘that depends upon what the meaning of the word is is.’

It’s not a new slippery dodge, but has been adopted by the Left wholeheartedly:

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.”

“The questions is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

“The question is,” Humpty Dumpty replied, “who is to be master. That’s all.”

Another tactic long used by the Left is to fight the existing law, morals, standards and conventions, seek to change them, oftentimes through court actions rather than popular vote or legislation, and then vigorously defend the Law, using it as a cudgel against everyone who disagrees.

If anyone has seen the latest Harry Potter flick (Order of the Phoenix) there is a thinly-veiled criticism in how Leftists take over organizations from above and exercise a saccharine, totalitarian rule over all others.

They say that trends that start in California trickle out into the rest of the USA. I am hoping that this is changing, if it ever was true.

First, because it would seem that in the concentration of Leftists, such as the anti-Marine caterwaulings of the Berkelyites, they have come to a critical mass of stupidity, departing far from the American mainstream.

Second, after watching Hollywoods’ icons darlings and icons destroy themselves: Boy George, Michael Jackson, George Michael, Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc., etc… the Mainstream is less willing to follow their example. Indeed, Hollywood is rapidly becoming examples of depravity and how NOT to do it.

I certainly do hope this most recent bit of judicial fiat gives rise to a backlash and course correction.

There is no “right” to get married, only requirements to be able to do so. The Court has clearly changed the requirements, with no legislation to support that.