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Friday, May 05, 2006

California Looking To Ban Private Ultrasound Machine Ownership

Hmm...

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - The California Assembly has voted to restrict the use of ultrasound machines for personal use, approving a bill that would allow them to be sold only to licensed professionals.

Democratic Assemblyman Ted Lieu introduced the bill after "Mission: Impossible III" star Tom Cruise bought an ultrasound machine to see images of his unborn child. The actor's fiancee, Katie Holmes, gave birth to the couple's daughter, Suri, last month in Los Angeles.

Doctors and technologists typically receive years of training to perform ultrasound exams, which help obstetricians check a baby's health.

Cruise was criticized by doctors who said improperly using the devices can harm a fetus.

Lieu said his bill was intended to prohibit copycats from using the devices at home. An ultrasound machine listed on the online auction site eBay was selling for $5,500 Wednesday.

"What we don't want is someone who unintentionally damages the fetus," Lieu said Thursday on the Assembly floor.

The chamber voted 55-7 to pass the bill and send it to the Senate.


I don't know a thing about ultrasounds so I can't speak to the relative dangers of their private use by untrained laymen, but here's an interesting thought: Why all this concern over unborn children?

California is home to a lot of pro-choice politicians. Should Roe vs. Wade ever be overturned you can bet your booty that California's state legislature would quickly, and probably overwhelmingly, pass laws to protect a "woman's choice" to have an abortion. So why then all this concern about ultrasound machines?

If an unborn child is nothing more than a clump of cells that can be removed from a woman's body at her whim, what do we care if some untrained private citizen hurts said clump with an ultrasound machine? Is it because we are only concerned about unborn children that have mothers that actually want to keep them?

I don't see the logic in that reasoning. Why should the mother's choice determine whether or not an unborn child's life is worth protecting? Does it not exist regardless of what the mother's feelings on the subject are? The idea that a woman's choice somehow changes the nature of an unborn child reminds me of the time in this country when we decided that black people only counted for a fraction of a citizen. Did that decision by American voters make blacks in this country any less of a person deserving of constitutional rights? No. And neither does a choice by a woman diminish the status of an unborn child.

Comments

Avatar for Eneils Bailey

Before Cruise turns in his Ultrasound machine, I suggest we strap it to his head to see what happened to his brain. I suspect we will find something resembling a dried turd rattling around.

Rob, nice way to pick apart the inconsistencies in the reasoning. And the article referenced by docdave surely casts a brighter light on the subject. 

Eneils Bailey on May 5, 2006 at 09:07 am
Avatar for Robert Perry

Um, technically, doctors and nurses do not receive "years of training" just to run ultrasound machines.  As the daddy of four little girls, I can assure this forum that most anyone with moderate intelligence could learn to run one well in about a week.  So danger?  Hardly.

The place where I’d advocate caution among crisis pregancy centers is in the interpretation.  Doctors and nurses DO receive years of training to know what they’re looking at--things like training in physiology and anatomy and so on.  So there is a real issue where those who don’t know what they’re looking at could mislead mothers.

Will it shut down Focus’ plans?  Hardly.  Most crisis pregnancy centers have doctors affiliated, and one just needs to put that name on the bill of sale.

Robert Perry on May 5, 2006 at 09:16 am
Avatar for Cory

I find it interesting that Lieu said, "What we don’t want is someone who unintentionally damages the fetus."  Is it OK to intentionally damage one?

Cory on May 5, 2006 at 09:27 am
Avatar for Zsa Zsa

Hmmmm… That is not what they told me when I went in for an ultra sound. Interesting? A law? Prohibiting ownership of an ultra sound machine? The whole concept of ultra sound is that element of safety for both mother and child. Abortion advocates will stop at nothing to be able to terminate a pregnancy. Because, the mother would be able to see what they are doing. A law preventing ownership is going way too far.

Zsa Zsa on May 5, 2006 at 10:14 am
Avatar for Tom_with_a_Dream

I can understand years (weeks ?) of training to deteremine what a liver looks like, or where one might find one in a "mass of tissue", er, a fetus, er, a baby (/snide run-on), but I am with Robert Perry when I say that I could recognize a human head or a foot with nothing more than 16 seconds in front of a mirror. 

Thanks, Doc Dave, for stealing my thunder.  I, too, believe "they" (who ever they really are) fear the "Religious Right", sare I say, the Feverent Religious Right, getting their hands on one of those fantasitc anti-abortion machines.  What are the stats again on how many pro-abortees change their minds when shown that the "mass" has fingers and eyes?

Tom_with_a_Dream on May 5, 2006 at 10:56 am
Avatar for Nikki

Abortion issues aside, part of the reason why they want to ban private citizens from owning/using ultrasound machines is the potential damage to the mother. Ultrasound involves the use of heat as well as doppler-type recognition of sound. Overuse of ultrasound can have negative effects on a woman’s uterus and other reproductive organs. That’s why most women don’t get sonograms at every OB visit during their pregnancy. Ultrasound is used in physical therapy because it promotes blood flow to- and healing of the affected area. So if ultrasound is used too often, it can permanently jack-up a woman’s cervix or potentially cause or worsen endometriosis. Just a little insight.

Nikki on May 8, 2006 at 04:26 pm
Avatar for Zsa Zsa

Nikki...The ultrasounds a far superior today than when I had my babies. I could not tell quite honestly if it was a baby or a loch ness monster. That is interesting to know. They are so clear today it is unbelievable. Thanks!

Zsa Zsa on May 8, 2006 at 04:44 pm
Avatar for Robert Perry

A little bit of insight with regards to Nikki’s claims; I’ve had the same concerns, but after having four kids, I’ve yet to see any credible evidence that ultrasounds can do damage, nor any claims by doctors of the same. 

Jack up the cervix?  Ultrasound works at extremely low power levels, and one might as well state that listening to heavy metal at high levels will be far more effective at doing this, or perhaps riding in a vehicle with a poor suspension.

Robert Perry on May 9, 2006 at 06:17 am
Avatar for Melissa

It does seem to me that passing this would be to the advantage of pro-choice groups considering the number of women who choose not to have an abortion after seeing their babies on an ultrasound.

Melissa on May 24, 2006 at 03:52 pm
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