By Attacking Ricci, Democrats Are Comparing Skin Color To A Disability

Firefighter Mark Ricci is the man who filed a lawsuit after his employers refused to give him a pay raise because some of his co-workers who also happen to be minorities didn’t pass the same test he did. Ricci, rightfully, accused his employers of reverse discrimination. That case was challenged all the way to the Supreme Court, and along the way got a ruling by Obama’s SCOTUS pick Sonia Sotomayor who was actually overturned by the Justices. Now Ricci is going to be testifying at Sotomayor’s confirmation hearings, and Democrats are on the attack.
But the tact they’re taking is interesting. As it turns out, Ricci got his job through the Americans with Disabilities Act (he has dyslexia) and now he’s being called a hypocrite.

Frank Ricci is a white New Haven, Conn., firefighter, who is one of the GOP’s showcase witnesses on Thursday. His reverse-discrimination suit against the city of New Haven was rejected by a three-judge appeals court panel that included Sotomayor.
Liberal groups and bloggers are noting that Ricci, who has dyslexia, got his firefighting job in New Haven “by claiming discrimination under the Americans with Disabilities Act, which protects Americans from discrimination over disabilities.”
Marge Baker, People for the American Way’s vice president, says: “I don’t think Mr. Ricci thought that his being hired was a case of reverse discrimination against those who weren’t disabled … You can’t have it both ways; these laws can’t be good when you use them to protect yourself and bad when they’re used to protect someone else.”
Republicans and conservatives are calling this a smear campaign. GOP Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah said: “it is beneath both contempt and the dignity that this process demands.” Conservative bloggers and at least one conservative group, the Judicial Confirmation Network, are trying to rally conservatives behind Ricci.

What’s interesting to me is that Democrats seem to be equating race with a handicap. We can argue about whether or not preferential hiring based on disability is better or worse than preferential hiring based on skin color (I think the most qualified candidate should get the job regardless of skin color of disability, personally), but let’s take a moment to admire the logic being applied here.
Dyslexia is, certainly, a disability. It makes reading, and thus learning and communicating, more difficult. We can all agree on that. But liberals apparently want us to believe that being of a particular skin color is the same thing. They want us to believe that being black or Hispanic or Indian is the same thing as being disabled.
Isn’t that a little…insulting?
Personally, I don’t believe for a moment that being a certain race is a handicap. I’d be insulted if someone suggested that my skin color where a handicap, and I wonder why more of the people who get preferential treatment based on their skin color aren’t insulted by the suggestion that their skin color is a handicap.

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  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Attacking Firefighter Mark Ricci is not a winning move, I don’t get why they are doing this, the fact remains that Supreme court over ruled NOBAMA horrible pick Sonia Sotomayor for the SCOTUS.

    Rob said: Isn’t that a little…insulting?

    yes it is, very insulting. Of course no one should be shocked with the crap the LeftardsDumbocrats do.

  • sayanything-4625

    The “slowness/dumbness” argument posed by Dino gets blown out of the water by the sheer fact that Ricci–in the face of his disability–was still able to score higher than many others of diverse melatonin content who also took the test. Dumb? Slow? Yeah, right.

    Yeah, that’s funny! Way to destroy your own argument Ricci is dyslexic, dim and slow so he doesn’t deserve promotion. If he is so dim and slow why do you advocate promoting people that couldn’t out score him? Because of the color of their skin. What you are really saying is that blacks can’t compete so we have to promote them anyway.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Here’s a novel idea; base promotions and hiring on qualifications. Problem solved!

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    To them, this is the only way they can get a position. No qualifications except some magical hue status. Wrong. Completely wrong and Anti- American.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Poor color blind WOOF, must not know that those placards are also color coded according to the type of hazard!

    Great job finding an illustration in black and white! (Or couldn’t you tell the difference?)

  • Mickey

    In the new diversity world of affirmative action, being white “IS” a handicap.

  • Pilgrim

    Rob,

    I’m glad you agree. I said the same thing in this post:

    http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/the_politics_of_personal_destruction_sotomayor_backers_urge_media_to_go_aft/

    Straight out of the Saul Alinsky handbook. Destroy the messenger.

    These people have no shame.

  • TheTodd

    Kevin:

    Here’s a novel idea; base promotions and hiring on qualifications. Problem solved!

    If that were the case, Mark Ricci never would have had his job in the first place.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    If that were the case, Mark Ricci never would have had his job in the first place.

    Does dyzlexia impare fire fighting ability?

  • TheTodd

    Rob:

    What’s interesting to me is that Democrats seem to be equating race with a handicap.

    That is interesting, how you could so wildly misunderstand the contents of the article.

    They’re equating reverse discrimination with reverse discrimination. Ricci supports reverse discrimination when it benefits him because it’s on the basis of disability; he opposes it when it harms him because it’s on the basis of race. This is inconsistent and hypocricical. DUCY???

    Ricci doesn’t think reverse discimination is wrong. He thinks reverse discrimination that does not specifically benefit him is wrong.

  • TheTodd

    Does dyzlexia impare fire fighting ability?

    Apparently.

    Ricci filed his first lawsuit against the city of New Haven in 1995, at the ripe old age of 20, for failing to hire him as a firefighter. That January, the Hartford Chronicle reported that Ricci sued, saying “he was not hired because he is dyslexic.” The complaint in that suit, filed in federal court, alleged that the city’s failure to hire Ricci because of his dyslexia violated the Americans with Disabilities Act. Frank Ricci was one of 795 candidates interviewed for 40 jobs. According to his complaint, the reason he was not hired was that he disclosed his dyslexia in an interview. That case was settled in 1997 with a confidential settlement in which Ricci withdrew his lawsuit in exchange for a job with the fire department and $11,143 in attorney’s fees.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2222087/

    I’ll try to make this simple…

    Frank Ricci has filed two lawsuits alleging reverse discrimination by the City in relation to his firefighting job. When the reverse discrimination supported him, he was in favor of reverse discrimination. When reverse discrimination harmed him, he was opposed to it.

    This is self-serving and hypocritical.

  • TheTodd

    I wonder why more of the people who get preferential treatment based on their skin color aren’t insulted by the suggestion that their skin color is a handicap.

    Because only intellectually dishonest partisan Republicans believe the Democrats are, in fact, suggesting skin color is a handicap.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Conservatives would the first to chide and ridicule someone getting a job because they were slow. But when it’s one of yours it’s a “disability”.

    That’s what dyslexia is. Slowness of the mind. It’s not real. Well, unless a conservative or god forbid, one of their kids is slow. Then, because all con kids MUST be Harvard-bound, they’re “dyslexic.”

    Reminds me of the book “The Cheating Culture”. It used to be that if you were diagnosed with learning disabilities you could get extra time to take the SATs. The catch was that they flagged your results as being from a learning disabled person. In New York they stopped flagging the scores. NYC psychologists began seeing lots of Yuppie parents showing up to get their kids diagnosed as “learning disabled” so they’d get an edge on the SATs and no one would be the wiser.

    That’s the culture created by hyper-competitive capitalist conservatism. A culture of greedy cheaters.

    This is too typical.

  • Farm4$

    Ricci has a m3ssag3 ?

    nIa fire can frank the dyslexic find an TEXI

    ‘BAD DOG WOOF’ making fun of a persons handicap????

    do you make fun of blind people too ???

    Or how about crippled children ???

    ‘BAD DOG’!

    I thought you were compassionate.

    I can not see for the life of me why dyslexia would be a problem in fire fighting, I can see why it might be a problem for someone applying for a job as an accountant.
    Maybe that is why the courts said not to hire him because of dyslexia was wrong. I may be block headed, but I do not see that as ‘reverse’ discrimination, I see it as discrimination period. But I do see how not getting hired because your white would be ‘reverse’ discrimination.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    When I was a kid we used to call dyslexia dumb. What’s next, a disability claim for being a conservative?

    “But your Honor, I was driven to cheat those old women out of their life savings because I’m a conservative. It’s a handicap that makes me a greedy piece of shit subhuman!”

    LOL

  • Farm4$

    That’s what dyslexia is. Slowness of the mind. It’s not real.

    Dino you are wrong. Go look it up in a medical journal. It is not slowness of the mind, and it is real.

    Just because you are filled with anger and hate is no reason not to get this straight. Disagree with the man’s opinion, but get the facts straight on dyslexia.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    “I read and comprehend slower than that guy so I should get the job instead of him.”

    That’s Ricci’s claim.

    How about a claim for being a parasitic piece of shit who will end up with a bullet in his brain when he tries to kill a conservaive?

    Um, didn’t someone accuse little Dino of being threatening in another post? Chill dude.

  • jimmypop

    What’s interesting to me is that Democrats seem to be equating race with a handicap.

    um, dude….. they do. thats kinda thier deal. ive said this here and said this for years. liberals think if youre not a white male youre inferior. i just cant see how their sheep cant see this.

    i have likened the liberal party to the german government holding an election AFTER the second world war and having 90% of the jews still vote for hitler.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Frank Ricci has filed two lawsuits alleging reverse discrimination by the City in relation to his firefighting job. When the reverse discrimination supported him, he was in favor of reverse discrimination. When reverse discrimination harmed him, he was opposed to it.

    Saying that his dyslexia isn’t an impediment to his job is not the same as saying “I scored higher than minority X and I lost my raise because of it.”

    Fail, Todd.

    When I was a kid we used to call dyslexia dumb. What’s next, a disability claim for being a conservative?

    How about a claim for being a parasitic piece of shit who will end up with a bullet in his brain when he tries to kill a conservaive?

  • 2Hotel9

    Wow, theturd and dinothefakehomo are awfully quick to spew their racism. Tell us again how being a Negro is a disability, it is the position you Democrat racist fucks have held throughout the history of America. That is why you Democrats fought to retain slavery, it is why you Democrats stripped freed slaves of their rights to vote, own property, and get educations. It is why you Democrats fought tooth&nail; against the Civil Rights Amendment.

    Simply put, you, Democrats, hate Negroes. And you always will.

  • 2Hotel9

    And woofie toddles in with,,,what? Got proof that Ricci has injured or killed anyone on duty? Any proof at all?

    Working with 2 people who are dyslexic I can assure you they are far and away more intelligent than you, woofie, and theturd&dinothefakehomo; combined. Going by your racist “logic” people with dyslexia should not be allowed to operate motor vehicles or hold any job whatsoever. Just more proof of your Democrat Party racism. Good job, buddy!

  • Mickey

    How about a claim for being a parasitic piece of shit who will end up with a bullet in his brain when he tries to kill a conservaive?

    Sweet. I’d send flowers to the conservative.

  • bill-tb

    You wonder if the wise pug nosed Latina even understands.

    It sure sounds like a winner for the reasoning challenged donks.

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    First, WOOF, Dyslexia affects how letters and words appear to the reader. Not pictures. Gummint-instated placards almost always have PICTURES to go with the WORDS. While reading the exact contents of a barrel might prove difficult, the design of, and picture upon, the placard tells the firefighter — at a glance — the danger posed by the contents.

    Placards have not really changed since I was a trained firefighter many, many years ago.

    The placard argument is moot.

    The “slowness/dumbness” argument posed by Dino gets blown out of the water by the sheer fact that Ricci — in the face of his disability — was still able to score higher than many others of diverse melatonin content who also took the test. Dumb? Slow? Yeah, right.

    Ricci forked out over $1000 from his own pocket for a specialist to help him overcome his Dyslexia issues, just so he would be able to read the test. Besides giving him the ability to demonstrate his knowledge of the subject matter, it also showed a lot more dedication and desire than all those who did not make the cut.

    Secondly, what Ricci did was to sue because he was discriminated against because of his disability. For the Leftards to call this a claim of “reverse discrimination” is intentionally misleading. In other words, just another lie-beral falshood.

    Ricci applied for a job and was discriminated against because of his disability. He sued. He won.
    Then Ricci took this promotion exam and was discriminated against because of his race. He sued. He won. But not before encountering Sotomayor’s support for racism.

    Racial discrimination is discrimination, Period. It does not matter what race(s) is/are being favored, it is still discrimination, and it is illegal. Liberals just cannot stand it when the “eeeevil whitey” turns their own rules — which were designed to put the greedy white man in his place — back on them.

    The fact that Sotomayor upheld this racial discrimination tells us all more than we ever need to know about this self-penned “wise Latina”.

  • Lioncourt

    Having Ricci even testify is a political stunt by conservatives. When has a plaintiff ever testified in a confirmation hearing? What value is he supposed to add?

  • http://rmjacobsen.squarespace.com/ Roy Jacobsen

    Seems to me that when Ricci sued to get his job, he was in effect arguing that he was qualified for the job of firefighter despite the fact that he has dyslexia. In other words, his particular disability would not prevent him from completing the duties of a firefighter.

    That’s the way that it should work. IANAL, but I’m speaking as someone who has been in the position to recommend for or against hiring employees. At that company, we were coached on the requirements of the ADA, and one of the key points was that we could not rule out a job candidate who had a disability if there were reasonable ways that we could adjust the working conditions to enable the person to complete the required duties.

    For example, there are reasonable things you can do to enable a quadriplegic to perform many desk jobs, but not to be a firefighter or police officer.

    It’s really quite simple: It was unjust for the New Haven fire department to refuse to hire Ricci because of his dyslexia, and it was unjust of them to not grant his promotion because of his skin color.

  • TheTodd

    The fact that Sotomayor upheld this racial discrimination tells us all more than we ever need to know about this self-penned “wise Latina”.

    So, what the fact that Ginsburg, Stevens, Souter and Breyer also upheld this “racial discrimination”? Are they all just racists too?

    Or is it possible that this was actually a difficult decision?

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    So, what the fact that Ginsburg, Stevens, Souter and Breyer also upheld this “racial discrimination”? Are they all just racists too?

    Or is it possible that this was actually a difficult decision?

    I did not call Sotomayor a racist. Suggesting that I did so is intentionally dishonest. I said she supported racism. She upheld racial discrimination.

    Anyone — any-friggin’-one — who supports the favoring of one person/group over another (or vice versa) based on skin color supports racism.

    Does that make them a racist? Is the defender of racism also a racist? Not necessarily. But it certainly does not help.

  • JMT

    I 1st & foremost also object to the use of the phrase “reverse discrimination“. There is NO SUCH THING…discrimination IS discrimination NO MATTER WHO it is committed by & upon who it is committed. The FD committed DISCRIMINATION period.

    2nd Ricci is NOT a “hypocrite” b/c he sued for discrimination before this case…the 1st case was disability discrimination & the 2nd was racial…discrimination is discrimination NO MATTER the reason either.

    BTW, the facts of the case keep getting screwed up. Some are saying that “no minorities” passed the test. Nope that isn’t correct. There were 3 possible categories of results that someone that took the test could fall into. (1) A person FAILED the test. (2) A person PASSED the test but did NOT score high enough for promotion. (3) A person PASSED the test AND scored high enough to get a promotion. Now, I’m not sure what grade/score exactly made a person eligible for a promotion BUT For example, a person could get a score of 55 & get an “F” & be SOL for a promotion, a person could get a 75 & get a “C” which would be a “passing” grade BUT NOT high enough to get a promotion & be SOL or a person could get a 89 & get a B+ AND get a promotion.

    The fact is minorities DID pass the test INCLUDING 2 Hispanic test takers that not only passed but scored high enough for a promotion. However, the city threw out the test b/c no blacks passed AND scored high enough for a promotion.
    Here is the breakdown:
    77 candidates took the 100 question test for Lt & 41 for Capt, 56 in total passed: 41 whites, 9 blacks & 6 Hispanic…out of those #’s, 17 whites & 2 Hispanics (1 of which was part of the suit) could expect promotion (scored high enough for promotion). The written test accounted for 60% & the oral test for 40% of the overall promotion screening.

    So plz ppl, stop saying that no minorities passed the test….that IS incorrect.

    The “argument” that the test “MUST” be discriminatory b/c not enough minorities passed it/not enough scored high enough for promotion b/c that’s a bullshit “argument”. If it were found that only 7% of those that passed it were blond that would NOT automatically make the test “discriminatory” against blonds…it’s JUST the way it ended up being. There would actually need to be proof of discriminatory testing. The city NEVER explained/proved that the test itself was discriminatory or that ANYTHING was ACTUALLY wrong w/ the test itself (or even actually tried to find out IF there was) but they still threw out the results…THAT’S BS!

    As for dyslexia, dyslexics learn “tricks” through learning (which Ricci did w/ classes) to figure things out. Just like those that are color blind know that the light @ the top is Red, the middle is Yellow, the bottom is Green & lights to the side on each level will be Arrow lights…just like they don’t need to know that Stop Signs are Red…they recognize the shape & know to stop. If dyslexics can pass a test (which Ricci ‘aced’ his) then it is NOT a factor one way or the other “on the job”.

    Here is another link for a definition of dyslexia: Definition of Dyslexia from Medicine.net

    Woof: Ricci’s claim in his case over his dyslexia is that the dept did NOT even give him a CHANCE to show that his dyslexia was not going to stop him from doing his job well. And he has done his job so well that he is a decorated firefighter.

    **AND EVEN IF, there was a case to make involving Ricci & “hypocrisy”>>> What’s the excuse for being against the OTHER 19 firefighters involved in the suit that went to SCOTUS???**

    Yes, there is a difference btwn being racist & supporting racism…I DO see Sotomayor as a racist & the SCOTUS judges in the case that were on the wrong end of the ruling SUPPORTED/UPHELD racism.

  • TheTodd

    I did not call Sotomayor a racist. Suggesting that I did so is intentionally dishonest.

    LOL. OK. So when you referred to Sotomayor as

    “this self-penned “wise Latina”

    you were not at all implying that she was a racist. Gosh, I’m so sorry!!!

    Obtuse twit.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Sweet. I’d send flowers to the conservative.

    Or give him a blowjob in a service station bathroom.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Isn’t it odd how most of the people you hear about with dyslexia are white males?

    I guess they had to find a way to get special treatment. Like we didn’t have enough. The only way they’d get more preferential treatment is to grow a vagina.

    Oh, and if Ricci was so dyslexic, how did he pass the tests? Was dyslexia a diagnosis given by his friend the doctor? Can you even diagnose that? I’ve already pointed out how rich parents will get their kids diagnosed with “learning disabilities” to give them an edge on the SATs.

    The Cheating Culture

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    LOL. OK. So when you referred to Sotomayor as

    “this self-penned “wise Latina”

    you were not at all implying that she was a racist. Gosh, I’m so sorry!!!

    Obtuse twit.

    I used the very name she gave herself. How is that implying anything? Provide me a single quote from my comment here (your myopic interpretations aside) where I said she was racist.

    What part of “I NEVER SAID SHE WAS RACIST” do you not understand?

    It was the city that discriminated against the “eeevil whiteys” who are the racists. Sotomayor’s ruling supported the city’s decision to discriminate based on race. She gave her support to racial discrimination. Those who agree with that ruling also support racism. If YOU agreed with those rulings, then you ALSO support racism.

    The only ones I am calling a racist is the city. Even this — as you say — obtuse twit can grasp that nugget of truth.

  • JMT

    Dino re your post of: July 14, 2009 at 07:57 am

    From my post of: July 14, 2009 at 06:48 am:
    As for dyslexia, dyslexics learn “tricks” through learning (which Ricci did w/ classes) to figure things out….
    Definition of Dyslexia from Medicine.net

    He paid over $1K out of his own pocket to get the education he needed to be able to overcome any disadvantage his Dyslexia could have on him & THAT IS HOW HE PASSED THE TEST…MEANING HE DID NOT GET “SPECIAL” TREATMENT.

  • Bat One

    Kinda funny how the people who first came up with the Americans with Disabilities Act now find themselves embarrassed and put on the defensive by someone who took advantage of that legislation (Ricci).

    Perhaps the Supreme Court, with or without Ms. Sotomayor, should throw out ADA altogether.

  • 2Hotel9

    JMT, thanks, that about wraps this up. New Haven discriminated against everyone who took the test in that cycle. Guilty as charged.

    Anyone in America’s Judicial System who supported New Haven’s discrimination is just as racist as the city government members of New Haven who did this. That most especially includes Sotomayor, even if she had minuscule involvement, simply because she has said, and repeatedly reiterated throughout her career, that ethnicity and gender are major considerations in ALL of her judicial decisions.

    Say what you mean, mean what you say. That is what she has repeatedly said and that is what she means.

  • WOOFX

    Dyslexia is a problem for firefighters.
    H₂O H₂O₂, CH₃OH
    Better know what’s in those drums.

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  • WOOFX

    Why is the relevance of Yrank Ricci testifying before the committee?
    What pony is mounting that dog.

    [color=#FF0040]nI[/color]a fire can frank the dyslexic find an [color=#FF0040]TEXI[/color]

  • WOOFX

    Ricci has a m3ssag3 ?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    dyslexia is a hoax. its just an excuse for the dim.

    funny how the majority, e.g. white dudes, want special rights — but they throw a hissy fit if anyone else does. LOL.

    OMFG. she’s a woman and she’s a PR! how much worse can it get? we all know that white men make better judges! (bullshit fellas.)

    as i have said since the begining on Sotomayor: KNOW WHEN TO HOLD EM.

  • sayanything-2483

    dyslexia is a hoax. its just an excuse for the dim.

    I guess Sparkless knows more than the experts at the Mayo.
    “Dyslexia is an impairment in your brain’s ability to translate written images received from your eyes into meaningful language.”
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dyslexia/DS00224

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Let’s see the libtards try their condescending twaddle with this lady.

    Doesn’t it grind you libtards to know that black people aren’t a monolith and a growing number don’t want to bow and scrape before your table scraps.

    The person she quotes is exactly correct. The Dems changed from lynching and intimidation to the social welfare system as a system of control to keep black people in one place. It was the Dems, the party of the KKK and slavery, that created the system of racial politicking and patronage that now shackles so many.

    My take is that Obama is the best possible thing to happen for black people. Now the bankruptcy of that system of white people handing things to black people and white people choosing things for black people is exposed fully. He sits there, a practicing elitist who pays scant attention to anyone beneath him whose attitude is that he won and can do anything he likes, and puts for this disgusting excuse for a judge, and says nothing as this howler of a comparison of dyslexia to skin color is made.

    Not a peep of outrage from the usual suspects who’ve sold out to the white liberals. Nothing from the NAACP. Nada.

    Don’t think this goes unnoticed.

    It all adds towards black America taking off the blinders and doing things for themselves without white people handing them things. Predictably, white liberals will not be able to take it and will redouble their efforts to keep black mollified and that will only make their disingenuous and disrespectful attitude ever more apparent and ever more frustrating and annoying to blacks.

    We will survive Obama and company. Liberalism won’t. Not as it has been. It’s been given all the rope it needs to hang itself. They are and will.

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