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Thursday, July 13, 2006


Bush Accused Of Issuing Terror Alerts For Political Reasons

Lefty blogger Josh Marshall makes that accusation in this Time Magazine column.

This quote from the column should tell you all you need to know about Marshall's accusation:

Can I prove any of this was politically motivated? Of course not. But that’s the magic of the terror-alert song and dance. There’s no way to know. All the key facts are veiled in secrecy, as they must be. So it’s impossible to know from the outside whether it’s on the level or not. But with another election looming, it seems we’re about to get a bunch of new chances to wonder.


Nice. No evidence, but Marshall will go ahead and make the accusation anyway.

Guess I'll do the same thing. I think Josh Marshall likes to go down to the Humane Society and kick little puppies when nobody is looking. Can I prove that he does that? Of course not, but I do wonder.

I actually posted a while back on this endless "question the timing" rhetoric from the left. I think it's all a load of malarkey.

According to the left President Bush is constantly under fire for one thing or another, be it Plame or the NSA's monitoring of phone call data or what have you. Given that reality, when can the President ever issue a statement or issue a terror alert without being accused of doing so to distract from the scandal du jour?

It's almost as if the left expects the President to put his job as chief executive of this country - not to mention commander-in-chief of our military - on hold while they and the biased media sate their ravenous hunger for Bush-bashing scandal.

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Comments

Avatar for Bat One

Why stop at kicking the puppies?  Using Marshall’s own “logic” there is every reason to accuse him of cooking and eating the little critters.

Bat One on July 13, 2006 at 02:17 pm
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i question the timing of this blog post.  it too conveniently distracts the readers from the fall-out of the Diane-banning cover-up.

Stop trying to hypnotize us with your lies, fascist!

[/channeling Marshall] 

eww, i feel all dirty now.

Dave on July 13, 2006 at 02:28 pm
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What’s wrong with eating puppies?  Just asking.

Chad Evans on July 13, 2006 at 02:36 pm
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Since when does the left know what it’s talking about?

Douglas V. Gibbs on July 13, 2006 at 03:02 pm
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And I said this exact thing would be done when all this terror alert shit started. It actually gets old, being correct all the time.

TwoHotel9 on July 13, 2006 at 04:54 pm
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I think they feel like if they question the timing enough the alerts will stop being issued. Then after any attack, no matter how minor and they can claim Bush was negligent for not issuing an alert.

bullwinkle on July 13, 2006 at 05:24 pm
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Marshall and his fellow leftists’ logic makes perfect sense, within their closed, self-deluded and self-perpetuating philosophy.

Of course all the elevated terror alerts are phony and mere props for their opponents’ political gamesmanship. Because, you [insert insulting description of the intelligence of ordinary Americans], there is no terrorist threat.

If no threat exists, its relative level or sensitivity to external events can’t possibly matter. QED.

(p.s. I used to work for Time Inc. and I assure you that no matter how absurd this sounds to regular folks, it’s stellar insight to those who produce this publication. Remember that.)

Manhattanite on July 13, 2006 at 07:11 pm
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None of you have actually answered the question. Why   have terror alerts only appeared when they serve a strategic purpose for the administration? The world is full of meaningless coincidences but we’re talking about an inexplicable pattern over several years. In the last five years, polls have consistently shown that national security is a primary concern for Republican and moderate voters. These voters have far more confidence in their Republican party leaders to make the right foreign policy and national security decisions than in Democrats. To many citizens, terror alerts have a clarifying effect on what the dangers are and who can protect them. The greater the threat, the more focused the support.

To pretend that it wouldn’t benefit the Bush administration politically to issue terror alerts at key decision milestones for the general poplulation is laughable.

Laughable.

Seven Pine on July 13, 2006 at 08:30 pm
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It’s not that those of us on/in the Right are pretending that terror alerts have not been issued at times that would be strategically beneficial to the administration.

It’s that those of you on the deranged left are pretending that there is any sort of evidence showing that they have.

Bat One on July 13, 2006 at 08:50 pm
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BTW - The straw argument that the left doesn’t believe in the terrorist threat is weak and embarrassing. Any American with eyes, ears, and a realistic sense of self-preservation understands that it is. That’s why it’s so difficult to witness the incompetence and arrogance of the Bush Administration as they use this war to score short-term political points instead of doing the good faith hard work of planning and executing this fight properly.

It’s about dealing with real threats with seriousness and honesty. Is that really so diffult to glean from Marshall’s article?

Seven Pine on July 13, 2006 at 08:51 pm
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The straw argument that the left doesn’t believe in the terrorist threat is weak and embarrassing.

Straw notwithstanding, I’m certainly not embarassed by the argument… although I suppose if I were on the left I would be.

As for weakness, as you are the one on the left, I’ll defer to you on that subject.

Bat One on July 13, 2006 at 08:58 pm
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“Is that really so diffult to glean from Marshall’s article?”

Not if you have a really good imagination.

robert108 on July 13, 2006 at 09:04 pm
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Seven Pine,

Allow me to call your attention to the difference between correlation and causation.

Correlation abounds - in fact, given enough potential data points, the probability of correlation nears 100% and therefore renders any argument, so based, moot.

For example: You aver that “terror alerts only appeared when they serve a strategic purpose for the administration.” Given that the present administration is, well, the present administration, under what circumstances would you acknowledge that terror alerts would be issued for other than “strategic purpose”?

Yep. I know. None.

Establishing a causal relationship requires far more rigor, though, and you (and your tired old babyboomer leftist ilk) have yet to do so in even a plausibly “laughable” manner.

The real question has been answered. Your false question has not, because it is based on your entirely subjective and logically erroneous premises.

Pitiable. Truly.

Manhattanite on July 13, 2006 at 09:05 pm
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omg….i cannot believe that steve pine can be that naive….it is simply amazing….this country is in deep kimshie…if this cat can vote

chuck on July 13, 2006 at 09:09 pm
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Marshall:

- Admin uses terror alerts for political gain. The evidence is in the consistency, timing and absence of credible ‘evidence’ to support the alert in the first place (re. Miami, Holland Tunnel).

Bat:

- Concedes alert timing gives admin political gain
- Unperturbed by lack of ‘evidence’
- Not ‘embarrassed’ by nonsensical arguments
- Liberals deranged and weak

Nice.

Seven Pine on July 13, 2006 at 09:14 pm
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Seven Pine: In order to have any credibility at all, you and Marshall would have to give examples of what you would consider “genuine” terror alerts, that is, when they “should” have happened, according to you.  Otherwise, what you say is bunk.

robert108 on July 13, 2006 at 09:18 pm
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simply amazing

chuck on July 13, 2006 at 09:23 pm
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monica lewinsky….clinton drops a few cruise missles on bosina….you do the math

chuck on July 13, 2006 at 09:25 pm
Avatar for Bat One

- Concedes alert timing gives admin political gain

Steve,

Given your dismal level of intellectual competence, it doesn’t much surprise me that you would come to this conclusion.  But for the record, I have conceded no such thing.

Since neither you nor Marshall has offered any evidence to support your shared contention, it would be difficult for any rational person to make any such conclusion.

Bat One on July 13, 2006 at 09:33 pm
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I think that the biggest mystery that presents itself in this case is this….why do I keep subscribing to Time Magazine? I’d like to think that its because, being a current events junkie, I like to stay informed. But I’m beginning to think that I read it because it reminds me of National Lampoon Magazine, except for the fact that the clowns that wrote for National Lampoon meant to be funny.

Pilgrim on July 13, 2006 at 09:49 pm
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Here’s some “evidence” to has over:
Julius Blog featured a Terror Alert / Pres. Popularity graphTerror Alert / Pres. Popularity graph

Jon Dougherty’s piece Terror alerts manufactured?, as well as other’s, cites sources saying the alerts are used for political purposes.

Surfer on July 13, 2006 at 10:14 pm
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The Great redeeming factor in all of this ... The American Public is Watching and Witnessing the absolutel Meltdown of a Party that is still trying to justify Oral Sex in the Oval Office while 911 was FRESH in the Planning Stages and Trust me.. that is what THIS is all about. Pam

Pam on July 14, 2006 at 04:58 am
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Of course, Time just hired the guy (Marshall) who collaborated on the Dan Rather ‘memo’ story and who spun that Bush (not Clinton/Carter) was to blame for North Korea getting nukes (while Bush was governor), so pie-in-the-sky conspiracy theories are a walk in the park in comparison.

RW on July 14, 2006 at 05:20 am
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July 02, 2006

US beats Europe over CO2 control

The United States has frozen its carbon dioxide emissions at a time when signatories of the Kyoto Protocol are conceding that they cannot meet their own targets, according to official figures released last week.

While the American economy grew by 3.5% last year, more than twice the European average, its fossil fuel emissions were up by only 0.1% – with no growth in road pollution and a drop in aircraft emissions.

[...]
Since 1997, when the Kyoto Protocol was first signed, the US has now made more progress in reducing its per capita fossil fuel emissions than the UK, France, Spain, Finland, Sweden and Japan – even before its economic growth is considered.
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Israel doesn’t want to become the “Great Israel” because Israelis are only several millions in this world…
We are people with long history that we are proud of and we possess enough education and awareness, so long live the new Iraq and let Israel live as our neighbor. I’d love to say that I wish Israel could rule the entire region; better than any Arab government except for the Iraqi”
An Iraqi in exile: Asia.
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“Please Israel, do not listen to the daughters of Achelous as they sing their songs of restraint, affix the beeswax and destroy these savages. These same Sirens who sing of peace do so only to draw you to your death.
Why is the measure of this (or any) war now tallied by the number of dead in a single clash, as recorded from day to day? When did we lose the concept of waging war until one side admitted to defeat? Did we lose WW2 because at the battle of Anzio we suffered 30,000 dead? Should we have stopped our efforts in that war because of the civilian casualties at Dresden? Or at the first bombing of Japan? When did up become down? Destroy your enemies before they destroy you, all the rest is merely songs of the Sirens.”
http://lucianne.com/threads2.asp?artnum=285165
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“Despite the headlines yesterday, violent crime in the US remains below levels in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s and below that of Europe, Canada and Australia.”  - http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/06/no-surprise-media-distorts-violent.html
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/ reliable sources.

bah on July 14, 2006 at 10:42 am
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I would like to state for the record that

1) The terror alerts DO benefit the administration ... by helping them communicate the situation without giving out critical information ie: it refrains from being nytesque

2) I defy any liberal to PROVE that they are being used as a political tool using something other than assumption, and “pattern recognition”. It’s “innocent until proven guilty, and the burden of providing evidence lies with the prosecution (which almost always seems to be the left).

3) I’m FOR eating puppies. Nuff said.

One Angry Christian on July 14, 2006 at 10:53 am
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It’s also true that terror alerts “benefit” the administration(as well as our citizens) because they are based on the truth.  This administration is strong on terrorism, while the Dems are very weak on terrorism.  The Dems can’t benefit because they are on the wrong side of the issue.  The fact that the Dems believe the war on terror isn’t real is a tremendous benefit to the administration, as well.  It makes the issue very clear.

robert108 on July 14, 2006 at 11:23 am
Avatar for scott

Pilgrim—

Current events junkies don’t have time for Time. If you truly “like to stay informed” you will cancel your subscription immediately.

scott on July 14, 2006 at 10:40 pm
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