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Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Brownback To Endorse….Giuliani?

If he did it, I think Brownback’s “values voter” following would see it more as Brownback selling out than a reason to support Giuliani.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) is considering endorsing Rudy Giuliani for the GOP presidential nomination and will meet with him Thursday in Washington to hear his views on abortion.

Brownback, who ended his White House run last week and is a champion of social conservative issues, said he would consider Giuliani because he had heard that the former New York City mayor had changed his position on partial-birth abortion and has pledged to appoint to the courts strict constructionists who would not overturn anti-abortion laws…

Ray Hoffmann, the state Republican chairman, said last month that Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) had assembled the biggest campaign operations in Iowa after Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is leading the GOP field in statewide polls. One Brownback adviser said that 45,000 Iowans had signed up as campaign supporters…

“It would be absolutely huge,” said Ross K. Baker, a professor of political science at Rutgers University. “It would mean that Giuliani is getting support form a part of the Republican Party that has been hostile to him.

“Brownback is very well-respected,” Baker added. “It would give a lot of social conservatives and evangelicals cover if they want to support Giuliani.”

If this happened, I guess what would supposedly happen is that Brownback’s religious following would start touting Giuliani.  Except, I don’t see that happening.  Mostly because I don’t think the “values voters” are that easily manipulated.  Giuliani’s social liberalism is just going to be too much for most of them to swallow, and as I already pointed out any push by Brownback to get out support for Giuliani would do more to alienate him from his niche constituency than actually generate support for Giuliani.

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...I don’t think the “values voters” are that easily manipulated.  Giuliani’s social liberalism is just going to be too much for most of them to swallow…

I disagree.  Giuliani’s “social liberalism” is nothing compared to that of Hillary Rodham Clinton.  The “values voters” as you label them are not being manipulated so much as they are being reminded that the political system in this country does not reward third party candidates, nor does it reward those who opt out and sit on their hands out of pique.

Over the last several years there has been much to criticize from a conservative’s point of view.  But turning the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the White House over to liberal Democrats is hardly the answer to any of the problems we face.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 24, 2007 at 09:27 pm

Giuliani’s “social liberalism” is nothing compared to that of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

What a ridiculous and ignorant statement. They BOTH support federal funding for abortions and partial birth abortion (last I checked). They are both “personally opposed” to abortion. Swap the elephant for the donkey… and who is who?

the former New York City mayor had changed his position on partial-birth abortion

well if it’s even true, nobody will ever call him a flip flopper, because he’s Rudy. Romney? Definite flipper.

the political system in this country does not reward third party candidates

Oh yes they do. They might not always win elections, some do, but they exist if for nothing else to prove a point. And that is, if the Republican Party can win without the social conservative constituency, they will effectively take the plank out of the platform.

If nothing changes with Rudy and abortion and he gets the nomination, not only can you count my vote out, I will personally see to it that MANY MANY more votes go with me. There are things you just don’t compromise when it comes to politics, and this is one of VERY few.


Why should we have less abortions if you’re not really killing someone?

george on October 25, 2007 at 03:50 am

This is odd...why doesn’t Brownback just endorse Huckabee? He’s the closest match in terms of social conservatism.


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Matt on October 25, 2007 at 06:27 am

Brownback voted in favor of the so-called immigration Dream Act.

Yeah, I really want him to be the Republican presidential candidate and/or am extremely interested in who he might endorse.  /sarc


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on October 25, 2007 at 07:00 am

This is odd...why doesn’t Brownback just endorse Huckabee? He’s the closest match in terms of social conservatism.

As I was thinking about this same question, to answers came to mind.

1) Brownback wants a VP position
2) Brownback knows something the rest of us don’t
3) Brownback is being optimistic and keeping the door open before he talks to Rudy personally.


Why should we have less abortions if you’re not really killing someone?

george on October 25, 2007 at 11:03 am
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I think Brownback is trying to hype the importance of his endorsement.  He announces that he might endorse Rudy.  Rudy feels obligated to at least meet with him and the media hypes the rather odd match.

Then, ultimately, Brownback endorses Huck and the media reports it all over the place because it seems like he snubbed Rudy.

That gets much more coverage than just coming right out and giving Huck the nod, which everyone expected him to do anyway.


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Rob on October 25, 2007 at 11:14 am

a little complicated, but maybe.


Why should we have less abortions if you’re not really killing someone?

george on October 25, 2007 at 11:26 am
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