Breaking: China And India Walking Out Of Copenhagen Summit

I never thought I’d be cheering the Chinese communists on for much of anything, but they got this one right:

Copenhagen: India and China have taken a united stand and walked out of the climate summit as Copenhagen talks fail.
Tensions prevailed at the climate talks at Copenhagen today, as Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh and China premier Wen Jiabao walked out of the summit along with their respective delegations, as talks failed.
The principle of common but differentiated responsibility must be adhered to and developed countries must honour their commitments, Chinese premier Wen Jiabao said at the climate meet.
He also said that China takes the issue of climate change “very seriously”, and regards it as an important strategic task. He vowed that China will not only achieve but exceed its voluntary climate action targets.

Whatever their rhetoric, the real issue here is that India and China (both still developing economies with a long ways to go before reaching the widespread affluence of the United States and Europe) realize that limiting carbon emissions means limiting prosperity. Hamstringing production may, oddly enough, may not look that bad to nations that have already achieved a certain level of prosperity but to nations like China and India this isn’t a good deal at all.
If China and India want to continue to modernize their economies they need production. The emissions controls being proposed in Copenhagen are the antithesis of production. And no amount of international welfare is going to make nations like China and India change their minds.

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  • http://Array sayanything-2

    Oh, I’m quite glad they are giving the environazis the finger, yes indeedy!

    I just don’t accept the UN/leftard definition of what a “developed country” is. China is highly developed, not just in western technology, in its own native technologies, also. It is a stable culture spanning several thousand years, and to pretend they are on par with Somalia, or Bangladesh, or Guyana. Its just,,,,disingenuous, not connected to reality, and serves the purposes of the political left, not China or humanity in general.

  • robert108

    They’re not right because they’re communists, they’re right because they are acting out of self-interest, like free enterprise people do. Commies are supposed to act out of self-sacrifice.

  • sayanything-2

    Thats no run on sentence! Hang out with us, we’ll teach you how to craft a run on sentence.

  • sayanything-2

    What I want explained is exactly how China is NOT a “developed nation”? They have an industrial base larger than any other nation on the planet, energy production base larger than any other nation on the planet, and a larger percentage of citizens educated above elementary level than any other nation on the planet. How the hell are they NOT a “developed nation”?

  • robert108

    The basic principle of communism is self-sacrifice, but India(which is not communist) and China acted in their self-interest. That’s how we do it in the free enterprise system.

    BTW, the American left is fascist; they want the control, but not the responsibility of ownership, of the means of production.

  • Brent

    At least the Chinese “communists” are going in the right direction (generally speaking) with reforms. Our own “communists” are, well, “reforming” our country to be more, uh, communist.

  • sayanything-43

    The number one emitter of plant food (CO2) is walking out of the conference to limit plant food.

    Pretty much shuts the thing down.

    Maybe now Dumbama can get behind some needed energy programs like developing our own petroleum supplies and building nuclear power plants.

  • robert108

    “Well, economics has led to us throwing gigantic money at those two for lower cost products and metals refining…”

    Not really; if it were just about costs, very few businesses would choose to locate in the US, as our labor and infrastructure costs are higher than anywhere else. However, our workers are more productive, and our infrastructure is better, which balances it out. The deciding factor is punitive Dem taxation and regulation. That’s what drives businesses out of this country.
    Remember, it’s “cost/benefit”, not just “cost”.
    Don’t fall for the union propaganda.

  • sayanything-106

    I don’t know why NOBAMA thinks we need to agree to this thing. Keep rejecting this China.

  • robert108

    In the leftie mind, all non-white peoples are “entitled victims” and get special rights.
    This is why the lefties want to pander to the terrorists, as well.
    You see, “developed nations”=”evil white people”, so that no non-white nation will ever be described as “developed” by the lefties.
    It’s all about racial politics, not about facts or logic.

  • sayanything-342

    I din’t blame them. Obama got up on stage and used his strawman blame game against them.

    They are just showing him he isn’t all he thinks he is.

  • sayanything-15427

    Cheering for communists feels wrong, but if they can stall or stop this train because they see that it is bad for them it will buy us ome time to throw the bums out and find the truth.

    (takes breath) Sorry for the run on sentence :)

  • ghHorse

    The Chinese? WOW, they trying to save the world? I thought that was America’s job …. LOL.

    The fact that it’s all a fraud, makes it tough to get poarticipants without lots and lots of money being given away.

    Communist of the world unite, against the fraud … Not sure how that works out.

  • sayanything-4625

    They are smart enough not to commit suicide Hotel. They’ve been poor Hotel and know how much it sucks. Everyone knows that so they use the excuse that they are not a developed nation and thus exempt to get them on board. It still didn’t work.

  • sayanything-287

    You are right I have been in China and India many times, in both countries it is the large urban centers that are doing well for the people, so well that poor people come in from the rural areas to make a living, lack the skills and the beg on the streets. Both countries have to keep driving their economies hard just to keep up with population growth and they are not, wisely, going to cut their own throats by crippling their coal based energy like Lord Obama is willing to do here at home.

  • jimmypop

    good for them for not letting the green mafia tell them what to do.

  • sayanything-15427

    Two words “Per Capita”

  • sayanything-287

    Actually China and India’s economies are coal based and they said that their resistance was due to the need to raise many millions of their citizens out of poverty and these restrictions would kill their economies. It was an economic argument!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Commies or not, who can blame the Chinese and the Indians for doing this? This climate summit is all about international extortion.

  • bikebubba

    2H9, what “Just Russ” says. Per capita, it’s still largely a poor nation, and the fruits of the economic revolution are largely confined to the big cities on the coast. Things are a lot better there than before, but…..

    ….and count me as glad that these nations are walking out. At least someone is thinking through the implications, and who better than people who know **** well what a little bit more economic growth means to the poor?

  • sayanything-4808

    r108, in the leftie mind all the non-western brown skin people can suck wind and dine on the scraps rich white liberals give them. They have their development, now they don’t want anyone else to have it. This is just their hometown racism on a global stage. America can have energy affluence and China and India not.

    Well, economics has led to us throwing gigantic money at those two for lower cost products and metals refining, and they are using it to buy their way onto the stage with us. It was obvious, but the liberal obsession with making the west non-competitive, and thus ENSURING that sweatshop type jobs would go somewhere else has led precisely to this juncture.

    If the liberals had let the west suck it up and do the crap jobs right here at home, back decades ago when our economy was good and the lower wages we paid back then were still sufficient to raise a family, this would not be happening now. Instead, their own bigotry has come back to bite them somewhere else. They destroy the western economies’ competitiveness, and then try to stop the eastern economies from taking up the slack they created, and then tell those people they can’t have the nice things we do.

    India and China were dead solid right to walk out.

  • sayanything-6955

    I know the “ONE” bowed again to some one over there, did he forget the chi-coms and tick them off?

  • tammyyy

    They could have saved so much energy by Teleconferencing. Then China and India could have just “Hung up”. But no! All those hypocrites just had to fly in Private jets to talk about not using too much fuel etc. Are you kidding me? Who in the hell takes any of these pieces of $hit seriously? This is about money period. That’s it money. All you fools who believe that this is actually important to YOU are sadly mistaken.
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