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Friday, August 17, 2007


Bono Heckles Speaker At African Aid Conference

There is a big movement afoot in Africa to end that continent’s dependence on international aid and instead focus on helping people help themselves through the private investment of capital, thus creating jobs and bolstering the economy.  As Ugandan journalist Andrew Mwenda put it, “What man or nation has ever become rich by holding out a begging bowl?”

Unfortunately, this idea of individual empowerment isn’t popular with everyone.  Among those, apparently, is U2 rocker and international political activist Bono who took to heckling and cursing at Mwenda during an African aid conference.

...the second, more interesting theme—echoed by every speaker—is that traditional aid and charity, whether distributed by nation-states or nongovernmental bodies, have failed. Andrew Mwenda, a Ugandan journalist and social worker, now a fellow at Stanford, made the case most strongly. He argued convincingly that 30 years of Western aid to Africa has achieved nothing at all. More, he said that the persistence of African poverty could be explained, in part, by aid. He explained that aid had convinced the brightest Africans to work for corrupt governments rather than as entrepreneurs, and it had “distorted the incentive structure.”

“What man or nation,” Mwenda asked, “has ever become rich by holding out a begging bowl?”

Far better, he said, is finding Westerners to invest in African entrepreneurs or businesses, which would create wealth. Mwenda, like other speakers, described at length the investment opportunities in Africa. (I half expected the pitch to be directly addressed to Doerr et al.)

This line of argument enraged Bono, however, who began heckling Mwenda.

“Bollocks!” he shouted. “That’s bullshit.”

Bono is a strong supporter of intelligently managed aid. When it came his turn to speak, he said that Ireland’s current prosperity is explained by government investment in its people, particularly education. He said that listening to Mwenda was like listening to an African Margaret Thatcher.

Classy.

Of course, Margaret Thatcher was instrumental in re-vitalizing Britain’s economy during her rein as Prime Minister, so perhaps Mwenda should take Bono’s barb as a compliment.  It’s hard for me to imagine anyone thinking that government taking care of people is a better situation than empowering people to take care of themselves.

Regardless, it kind of makes me happy that my state’s Democrats weren’t able to pass a resolution honoring this jackass.

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...government investment in its people…

There’s that Big Lie again; the govt doesn’t invest, it spends.  I love the “its people” part, as well.  Govt owns “its” people.  Right.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 17, 2007 at 10:43 am
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As one who has been doing aid work in Uganda for several years, Mwenda has got it nailed.  That country is developing the same Aid dependency mentality that crippled the Native American and African-American cultures for generations.  It has to be broken.

I see many bright industrious people in my travels to Kampala and- if I had the money for a business investment (high risk, but high return)- there are opportunities all around there.  Example: I’ve been trying to arrange to lend my normal driver enough to buy a slightly used taxi over there; he’d pay 12%, which would be a very low rate to him (a bank would be 18%, if he could get it).  If I could have managed to do this, his family income would go up five fold by a conservative estimate, and he planned to invest at least half to work on getting a second working car.  Things like this will end poverty, not Bono’s handouts.

Mike O on August 17, 2007 at 12:03 pm
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Whatever will liberal bleeding hearts do without poor people to throw money at? Oh, those ungrateful poor people - they’d rather grow up and do it themselves with some investment.

My eyes can’t roll far enough.

Mommynator on August 17, 2007 at 12:15 pm
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Ireland’s prosperity is due to cuts in corporate taxes:

Ireland’s recognition of this fact produced a 14 percent tax rate on capital, the lowest in Europe next to Portugal, and that helped give Ireland the highest per capita income in Europe.

Craig on August 17, 2007 at 12:35 pm

Having taught in Belfast and worked with a reputable medical equipment designer and manufacturer over there, I am aware that the government in Northern Ireland invests a great deal of money annually helping their private companies compete in the international markets, for whatever help that might be to your debate.


In keeping silent about evil, in burying it deep within us, so that it appears nowhere on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousandfold in the future.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The Gulag Archipelago

Neiman on August 17, 2007 at 12:41 pm
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Bono said in public what most white liberlas say in private. The average white liberal will do whatever it takes to keep black people in poverty. White liberals are blacks new “slave masters.

mike on August 17, 2007 at 01:14 pm
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Bono was not saying investment is bollocks. for christ sake Bono invests heavily in Africa. Do your homework before you call him a jackass..

He is the first one to talk about giving the man a fishing rod, not a fish.

But he believes in compassionate aid and he thinks it is bollocks to deny aid to people in need. This does not preclude other avenues of economic growth.

Many African intellectuals agree with him, btw.

cg on August 17, 2007 at 01:28 pm
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Bono’s a tool. Ireland’s prosperity has everything to do with them cutting taxes (as has been noted in a previous comment).

Robert Calderisi wrote an excellent book called The Trouble with Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn’t Working. It’s a very accessible book for anyone (not necessarily economists) that gives anecdote after anecdote and facts intertwined with data supporting his thesis that foreign aid is dragging Africa down. And before any trolls start implying Calderisi is some plant for the right-wing hit machine they need to note that he’s an ex-U.N. World Bank employee, who’s also gay, Canadian, and so on. Not exactly a resume for writing anything conservative. William Easterly has also done some great work on the topic if anyone’s interested.

Just found the blog and I’m digging it.

Hoss on August 17, 2007 at 01:29 pm

cg - Bono was not saying investment is bollocks. for christ sake Bono invests heavily in Africa. Do your homework before you call him a jackass..

What are you talking about? Who here said that Bono claimed that investment is “bollocks”?

Someone here needs to do his homework and that person is you cg.

likwidshoe on August 17, 2007 at 01:37 pm

Twenty years ago, Ireland was one of the least developed of European countries and so qualified for all sorts of EU funding and hand-outs. It was this money which helped lift Ireland out of it’s economic doldrums. Bono doesn’t seem to be ignorant, nor stupid,

Ireland was helped by charity or aid, but the difference is that the money was invested by the government. (Bono should know this, because he doesn’t seem to be ignorant, nor stupid [so one has to conclude that the magnanimous twat is a liberal])

Such policies in Africa have led to widespread corruption and misappropriation of funds.
Mwenda is right, Africa needs to become less dependent on aid and encourage entrepreneurship. 
Thanks Neiman for that input, but Northern Ireland is a British province, whilst Eire or (Southern) Ireland has been a sovereign state since 1921.  Bono is from Eire


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ManofFireandLight on August 17, 2007 at 01:48 pm

Bono doesn’t seem to be ignorant, nor stupid,

... so he must be a liberal!


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on August 17, 2007 at 01:53 pm

Too tired to be posting. G’night!


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ManofFireandLight on August 17, 2007 at 01:54 pm
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If Bono is like most liberals, he believes that blacks can’t do it on their own. So the only compassionate thing is to keep dumping money out the limo window.

Any African who wants to succeed knows that he would have to compete with goods that are given away. And that’s before the bribes. So why bother? That’s why there is no textile industry in Africa, which would be a natural way for their economy to come out of the 18th century.

great deal of money annually helping their private companies compete in the international markets, for whatever help that might be to your debate.

Where’s that money come from Einstein?

jon on August 17, 2007 at 01:56 pm

I don’t want to wander too far off the topic of the thread, but being demented my minds wanders; the Democrats and the Liberals here and of the world have in their twisted sense of compassion told blacks here and Black-Africans everywhere that they cannot make it on their own, they are somehow deficient in their character or something and that being black-African means you are automatically a charity case.

I would hate being a black-African and have people tell me I am inferior to people of other races and just because of the color of my skin, that I acnnot succeed without charity. Most conservatives think anyone can prosper and achieve their goals if they have the tools (education, fair opportunity, etcetera).


In keeping silent about evil, in burying it deep within us, so that it appears nowhere on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousandfold in the future.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The Gulag Archipelago

Neiman on August 17, 2007 at 02:15 pm
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Excellent catch and commentary, Rob. Will have more to say later.

baldilocks on August 17, 2007 at 02:15 pm
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Wow.  I’ve never heard of this guy but I already like him.  I’m not sure if I’m more impressed with what he says or with the fact that he pissed Bono off or that Bono thinks he is like Lady Thatcher.  Any one of those three would do, but this is a trifecta!

For those interested, here is a link to his comments to the Cato Insititute: The Curse of Foreign Aid.  Haven’t listened yet, but downloading as I type.  (The mp3 is actually about 2/3 of the way down the page.  Do a CTRL-F search for Mwenda.)

Jack of Clubs on August 17, 2007 at 02:37 pm
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It’s hard for me to imagine anyone thinking that government taking care of people…

It’s equally hard to imagine other governments taking care of your people better than either taking care of your own people or having your people take care of themselves.

Bono is an knob.

Christoph on August 17, 2007 at 02:54 pm
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Is it a bad thing to be compared to Margaret Thatcher?

JaimeRoberto on August 17, 2007 at 04:13 pm

Is it a bad thing to be compared to Margaret Thatcher?

Well it would be if you are a man and they were intimating you wear old ugly dresses and live with a bald guy.


I would have voted for her for President if she could have ran for that office here. That Iron Lady was great, was a pal of my man Reagan, which is great too.


In keeping silent about evil, in burying it deep within us, so that it appears nowhere on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousandfold in the future.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The Gulag Archipelago

Neiman on August 17, 2007 at 04:34 pm

Bono is the epitome of “the soft bigotry of low expectations”.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 17, 2007 at 04:54 pm
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Our Government loves Africa, in fact, we sent them Aids numerous times already.

Just like Jews have offered nothing but Gifts, to Germany.

WETBACK on August 17, 2007 at 06:43 pm

While Bono does what so many of his counterparts in the fairyland of rich entertainers don’t do - and that’s put his money where his mouth is - I think he still has the idea that charity is the whole answer.

Liberals have a difficult time with the concept of charity creating a welfare mentality, a tar pit of dependancy. Why work when the next handout is just around the corner?

In the end I have to agree that vast amounts of charity will have a negative long term effect. Investment capital and the pumping up of poor economies is a better answer.

Now, see what you’ve dome? It Saturday morning and I actually had to think. It hurts. I need a beer.


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Pilgrim on August 18, 2007 at 08:02 am

Is it a bad thing to be compared to Margaret Thatcher?


Baroness Thatcher is viewed by many (liberal, socialist and conservative) Brits as an evil woman. There are few here in the UK who still admire her.


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on August 18, 2007 at 12:32 pm

There are few here in the UK who still admire her

Gee, manof, I thought that Thatcher was one of the few (maybe the only one since Churchhill) that had any balls. 

Who do the people in the UK admire today?  Mohammed is surely at the top of the list for many.  Who besides him?


One of the most important talents for success in politics is the ability to make utter nonsense sound not only plausible but inspiring. Barack Obama has that talent. We will be lucky if we escape the catastrophes into which other countries have been led by leaders with that same charismatic talent.
-Thomas Sowell

docdave on August 18, 2007 at 01:40 pm

Mohammed is surely at the top of the list for many.

Fuck off, DD!


Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

ManofFireandLight on August 18, 2007 at 03:18 pm
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Hey, I hear you. Bono, like every other idiot who rallies to save Africa, fails to realize that poverty is only a symptom of the problem, not the root. Throwing money at it covers up the symptom for a while, but eventually it re-emerges because it was never truly solved. The problem with Africa is instability (corrupt government, tribal views, warlords), poor education, and a mass of people breeding beyond their economy’s means. If Bono and his ilk actually wanted to save Africa, pressure the governments of that continent for reform (trust me, they won’t listen to some moron like Bono, but he could try to persuade) and build schools so the mass becomes educated and learns business acumen, the dangers of unprotected sex, and perhaps make them better informed citizens. An educated public could actually rally against corrupt officials, elect competent ones, learn to build a stable representable government, thus drawing foreign investment in their countries, increasing their economic output, establish new jobs, slow procreation (educated, middle class individuals are known to statistically put off children until later in life and have fewer kids thus allowing the economy to grow and stop the population from outstripping it), and watch poverty dwindle. Africa is in the state it is now because it refuses to take responsibility. Partial blame can be put on the West for constantly throwing money at them instead of forcing Africa to start trying to solve its own problems. Finally, Bush, stop sending billions to Africa to teach abstinence and safe sex courses. You aren’t going to make a dent because a) most Africans are still believers in ancient magic and shamans who claim they can cure anything (even in South Africa, the most educated and richest African country), b) it is a cultural thing that men will have sex with prostitutes and then force their wives to have sex with them spreading the disease, and c) most Africans won’t accept retroviral drugs for AIDS because then their neighbors and friends know they have the disease and they are ostracized. This is the reality. DEAL!!!

Matthew Moses on March 14, 2008 at 02:02 am
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you guys think with your heart rather than your head
we cant give more add to africa with out going farther in dept and at the moment we are over
$9,369,548,990,640.67
and that
$30,823.21 for every women, man, and child

Killer on May 29, 2008 at 09:04 am

I destroyed the one U2 tape I had several years ago.  Just who do they think they are?  “Shut up and sing!”


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on May 29, 2008 at 09:28 am
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