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Saturday, May 13, 2006


Blinding Anger

Jim Geraghty:

Angry GOP grassroot voter: I’m mad as hell at the Republicans in office! They’re terrible on immigration and spending! I’m staying home this year to teach them a lesson!

Jim: You realize that there’s absolutely no chance that a Democratic-controlled Congress will seriously crack down on illegal immigration.

Angry GOP grassroot voter: Yes, but I’m really angry!

Jim: And you realize that despite your dreams of a paralyzing gridlock, there’s almost no chance that a Democratic-controlled Congress would spend less than a Republican one?

Angry GOP grassroot voter: Yes, but I’m really angry!

Jim: And you realize that putting Robert Byrd in charge of the appropriations committee to fight pork and earmarks is like putting Bill Clinton in charge of babysitting your hot teenage daughter?

Angry GOP grassroot voter: Yes, but I’m really angry!

Jim: And you realize that the Democrats’ first order of business in the House would be impeaching Bush and Cheney simultaneously?

Angry GOP grassroot voter: Yes, but I’m really angry!

Jim: And you realize that any future Supreme Court nominees until at least January 2009 would be whiny moderates who “grow” into liberals once they’re on the Court?

Angry GOP grassroot voter: Yes, but I’m really angry!

Jim: And you realize that the proper stance in the war on terror and/or Iran under Speaker Pelosi is to put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye?

Angry GOP grassroot voter: Yes, but I’m really angry!

Jim: And you realize that you’re also kinda retarded.


He makes a good point. It is a dilemma a lot of conservatives find themselves in. On one hand, the Republicans haven't exactly been acting like the conservative leaders we voted for. On the other thand, "punishing" them with our votes (or lack of votes) means putting the Democrats in charge of spending and the war on terror.

The idea of my vote (or non-vote) putting liberals in charge is even less savory than the idea of the conservatives I do vote for acting a little like liberals. Which should send a message to the Democrats: The path to being the majority party in this country lays not through becoming more liberal (which has only served to marginalize the Dems) but through becoming more conservative. Americans aren't happy because they didn't get the small government, tax-reforming conservatives they voted for. If the Dems moved to the right they could pick up a lot of voters.

I'm not sure it wouldn't be a bad thing for the GOP to go through a bit of blood-letting this election cycle. Maybe lose a few seats in the House to push them back to their conservative roots.

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Comments

Avatar for The Whistler

I expect the Democrats will try to throw a few bones to conservatives to pick off some disaffected GOP voters.  And it very well may work.  Of course if the Democrats win their promises will last as long as Bill Clinton’s middle class tax cut.

The Democrats are already talking about spending as being a GOP problem.  Of course they won’t cut any but right now they can talk about it.

Hillary Cllinton seems to be trying to stake out the middle.  I think that too many people know what she stands for to believe her. 

The Whistler on May 13, 2006 at 08:27 am
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Bush’s Approval rating is down to 29% now,  its good to see America has finally awoken,  I mean really, how much utter incompetence was this country going to take?  You can’t fool EVERYONE for 5 years and counting.

http://goofyblog.net/der-fuhrers-approval-rating-down-to-29-as-more-americans-finally-wake-up/

My guess is we’ll see him in the Upper Teens by November,  then America will finally kick the lying, incompetent, corrupt Republican Spend-Thrifts out of Congress once and for all.

[George] 

 

GeorgeWIncompetent on May 13, 2006 at 09:07 am
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Hmmm a full 11% lower than Rasmussen has his approval rating.

I suppose this poll was a taken in New York City. 

The Whistler on May 13, 2006 at 09:11 am
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Hmmmmm, no Teddy, that’s an incorrect supposition.

Methodology:
Harris Interactive conducted this telephone survey in the U.S., between May 5-8, 2006, among a nationwide cross section of 1,003 adults. Figures for age, gender, race/ethnicity, education, income and region were weighted where necessary to align with population proportions. In theory, with probability samples of this size, one can say with 95% certainty that the overall results have a sampling error of +/- 3 percentage points of what they would be if the entire U.S. adult population had been polled with complete accuracy.

 

realitybasedbob on May 13, 2006 at 09:22 am
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We’ve been seeing wide swings in party affiliation, age, immigrant status with these polls showing GWB approval numbers falling drastically. 

Let’s see the last verifiable poll was about a year and a half ago and a majority of folks voted for GWB.  Until November that’s all that matters. 

The Whistler on May 13, 2006 at 09:43 am
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Sure, I’d like to see all the Republicans and conservatives stay home at pretty much every election, but that would be just plain wrong.  Us, ALL OF US, voting is what the system is about.  Write letters and make phone calls to nudge your politicians in the right direction.  They don’t read this blog, but they, or their advisiors and aids, read the ones sent to them. Support the candidates that are closest where you want to be.  Vote in local elections and state elections and primaries, not just the big ones!  Everybody loses if nobody votes!

goprairie on May 13, 2006 at 09:52 am
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The loss of support for GWB is also coming from the conservative base.

Now in the next election how do you think conservatives are going to vote:  Against the Republicans because some of them act like Democrats or vote for the Republican?

GWB is losing support at the base on the immigration and spending issue.  It looks like the deficit is going to come in lower than expected.  If the Republicans in Congress get at least the first step in border security done they’ll probably do ok. 

The Whistler on May 13, 2006 at 10:09 am
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"My guess is we’ll see him in the Upper Teens by November,  then America will finally kick the lying, incompetent, corrupt Republican Spend-Thrifts out of Congress once and for all."

What then?  Vote in the lying, incompetent, corrupt Democrat Tax and Spend-thrifts in?

robert108 on May 13, 2006 at 02:05 pm
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Vote out the Republicans because some of them are acting like Demoncrats.

The Whistler on May 13, 2006 at 02:13 pm
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GeorgeWIncompetent spits, Bush’s Approval rating is down to 29% now…

You actually believe that?

...I mean really, how much utter incompetence was this country going to take?

This is coming from the guy who swallows whole the 29% figure?

My guess is we’ll see him in the Upper Teens by November,  then America will finally kick the lying, incompetent, corrupt Republican Spend-Thrifts out of Congress once and for all.

Nice bullshit rhetoric.

likwidshoe on May 13, 2006 at 02:17 pm
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Jim: And you realize that the proper stance in the war on terror and/or Iran under Speaker Pelosi is to put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye?

That’s what we’ll all be doing if the Democrats get control.  Boy hateful Democrats allied with angry Republicans - a marriage made in hell.  Doubt if that group could produce a single rational thought.

 

docdave on May 13, 2006 at 03:58 pm
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How are ex-Bush people going to vote?  Well, my mom is voting a straight Independent ticket, and I’m guessing alot of others will be as well.  I had pretty much decided to do it but then figured I’d throw my vote where it would count against Bush…to the almost as lame Democrats who supported his immoral war and would now like to demur.

Write letters and make phone calls to nudge your politicians in the right direction

I’ve made enough phone calls and found that they don’t care what I think or say, they’re in there upping their pensions and perks and doing whatever the heck they feel like doing.

They all know we really only have two choices in every election and so they know their base (such as is indicated above) will pretty much vote for them whatever they do, being the mindless sheep most of them are, both parties.

diane on May 13, 2006 at 06:41 pm
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<i>How are ex-Bush people going to vote?  Well, my mom is voting a straight Independent ticket, and I’m guessing alot of others will be as well.</i>

 Too bad, Diane.  The "ex-Bush" Republicans will vote republican again no matter what.  Why?  It will come down to the "family values" crap again.  You know, "vote for me and I’ll make sure there are no married homos on your block."  Denial of human rights is a family value!

jason on May 14, 2006 at 03:01 am
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You may be right, Jason.  But their ‘family values’ apparently don’t apply to their own families, as we see with people like Randy Cunningham and others.  But all of that does make good talking points for the ‘home team’.  Even McCain is meeting with Falwell, and I just heard Howard Dean say that many ‘christian ministers’ are tired of the Republican hypocrisy and are changing their affiliation.  But, I tend to believe that the churchfolk will fall for the same junk all over again.

diane on May 14, 2006 at 08:19 am
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jason=diane

robert108 on May 14, 2006 at 08:45 am
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robert, good chance the jason and diane don’t have any family values, you think?

docdave on May 14, 2006 at 09:29 am
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Is making up imaginary friends a family value?

robert108 on May 14, 2006 at 09:48 am
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Are flooding a blog with hate, spewing antiJewish hatred and rhetoric, hating the President, lying, refusing to admit even the smallest error, and schoolyard namecalling family values?

robert108 on May 14, 2006 at 09:50 am
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By disclosing the pro-Israel lobby that controls our Government, This is anti-Jewish hatred. If one whould expose the holocaust myth, this is anti-Jewish hatred, If one reveals the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

or the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto both written by Jews again this is anti-Jewish. Now if one belittles Bush what is he? ( remember no name calling smile  )

 

 

WETBACK on May 14, 2006 at 11:55 am
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Robert, still in you multiple personality mania?

doc, you need to keep quiet when you don’t know anything about anything.  My family always attended a ‘conservative Baptist’ church, I attended ‘christian’ high school and one year of ‘christian’ college. 

I saw ‘christian values’ my whole life and still do today.  Most ‘christians’ have no resemblance to any of Jesus’ teachings such as ‘love your enemy’, ‘judge not that you be not judged’, etc.

My dad was my hero, a Godly man and a true Christian, unlike some on this blog such as yourself you judge and hate without even knowing who someone is.

 

diane on May 14, 2006 at 12:42 pm
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Robert=doc=lik=Bat=Mule=Moose?

What a nest of nuts I stumbled onto.

diane on May 14, 2006 at 12:44 pm
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More Jewish anti-Palestinian/Arab hatred to which Robert108 is apparently a big subscriber:

 Israeli troops have killed seven Palestinians in two separate raids, in the deadliest single day of violence in the West Bank in several weeks. In the first raid Palestinian security officials say soldiers encircled a building next to Palestinian intelligence headquarters in Jenin on Sunday. Gunshots were heard and the bloodstained body of Ali Jabarin, a former member of the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, was seen lying in the street immediately after the shooting.

Elsewhere six other Palestinians were killed in the town of Qabatiya, south of Jenin, during a raid which ended with the Israeli soldiers

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1C82EB15-9A7E-4072-8297-E9B71DFCF77E.htm

 

Where was that verse where Jesus said it was okay to kill Arabs?

That’s right.  There isn’t one.

diane on May 14, 2006 at 12:50 pm
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Diane said "Most ‘christians’ have no resemblance to any of Jesus’ teachings such as ‘love your enemy’,"

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Luke 22:35-36

And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and script, and shoes, lacked ye anything? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his script: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Mathew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Want more Diane?  Let me ask you this Diane, in your opinion does the Government have any power over the Church? As I have stated before I am a Christian not a Judeo-Christian.


 

 


 

WETBACK on May 14, 2006 at 01:49 pm
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Diane said "Most ‘christians’ have no resemblance to any of Jesus’ teachings such as ‘love your enemy’,"

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Luke 22:35-36

He’s talking about the end of time, Justin, not while he was on earth and not until the Last Day.  Know your contexts before quoting.

And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and script, and shoes, lacked ye anything? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his script: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

This was to fulfill prophecy; remember that he told Peter to put away his sword and at the Last Supper when he asked if there was a sword and was told one, he said that’s enough (to fulfill prophecy)

Mathew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Finish the verse; it has nothing to do with war. 

Want more Diane? 

Yes 

Let me ask you this Diane, in your opinion does the Government have any power over the Church? As I have stated before I am a Christian not a Judeo-Christian.

Whether you are a Christian or not will be up to God’s judgement and His Word.  We, Paul tells us, to submit to authority.  So, let me ask you:  Does that include Iraqis submitting to Saddam, Germans submitting to Hitler, etc., etc.?  Or just to America?

diane on May 14, 2006 at 01:55 pm
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Sorry.  I addressed the wrong person; WETBACK, not Justin.

diane on May 14, 2006 at 01:56 pm
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Get all your verses about Jesus promoting hate and violence by Christians together and I’ll shoot them down one by one.

And, unless you have some spiritual insight no one else has, please don’t try to translate Revelation.  It’s sealed ‘until the time of the end’ (see Daniel’s prophecy).

I know Prophecy Doctors have made a fortune trying to interpret Last Days stuff, but people like Hal Lindsay have to keep making revisions as they are proven off-base.

Jesus taught love, not hate. 

diane on May 14, 2006 at 02:03 pm
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Diane, when your house becomes dirty what do you do? you clean it right, this idea of loving your enemy is a down fault, In the end we all know that God will win, but I think the mistake most good Christians are making is that illness that we are powerless, and that we should wait to God comes to save us, My Idea is to fight for God today, and dont let evils rule over us.

I believe any armed serviceman should have the greatest loyalty for God first before country, However neither the jews nor arabs believe in Jesus so I count them out religiously, As far as a Nation, I believe every Nation has the right to protect itself. As your aware I believe this is an unjust war for the greater Israel, and as I said before I wish Christians would stand up and fight like these Arabs.

Diane you said: He’s talking about the end of time, Justin, not while he was on earth and not until the Last Day.  Know your contexts before quoting.

Why does that have to be the case? If one is willing to die for Gods words today instead of turning the other cheek (another verse taken out of context) Is this bad in your eyes?

The Bible is for the generations of Adam its not for everyone, God has chosen people, not everyone. The problem with the Churches today is they try to include everyone into this.

Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord, Adolf Hitler.

 

 

WETBACK on May 14, 2006 at 02:24 pm
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I have no comment for you because anyone who believes that the Lord is/was Adolph Hitler isn’t making enough sense to communicate with.

You obviously haven’t studied the Bible but sound like a member of the KKK or Aryan Nation, neither of which study or know the Bible but misuse it to promote a hateful agenda…as do some members of mainline churches in the U.S.  They seem to pick a verse or two, taken out of context and misused.

This is not a Christian nation.  Nations are not Christian.  It’s not a generic term.  There are specific rules for being a Christian. 

And I hope that people who call themselves ‘christian’ will read your words and see where the ‘christian nation’ or ‘race’ syndrome eventually leads.

diane on May 14, 2006 at 03:16 pm
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Hi allDiane your the one who lacks knowledge of the bible, clearly the bible was not written for everyone, all throughout the bible Gods choosen was a specific people, Paul whom you qoute often countlessly speaks of this throughout his Epistles, as well as John and Jesus who mention the same.

But Jew wanna be Christians believe that the flood covered the entire earth even though the Chinese and Egyptian  dynasties never ended.

Love your enemies, If you are content with believing this nonsence than why dont you welcome Murderers, child molesters, rapists to your home?

As for not speaking to me, It served me no great pleasure speaking to you, so its no lose to me.

And of course you who has great knowledge of the Bible could not and doged answering my question: What nations did the 12 Tribes of Israel become? why I know why, it dont make sence to your Jew controlled religion. 

WETBACK on May 14, 2006 at 04:00 pm
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I didn’t say I wasn’t speaking to you, I said I had no comment because you obviously don’t know much about the Bible.

 

diane on May 14, 2006 at 04:11 pm
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doc, you need to keep quiet when you don’t know anything about anything

I have forgotten more than you know.  You have the audicity to claim to be Christian when mostly you do is spew hatred and lies.  ‘By their works you shall know them’ and your ‘works’ speak for themself.  Read what what Christ says about the pharisees and chief priests for you like them are caught up in you own self-importance and self-righteousness.  Self-righteousness has nothing to do with being righteous.  That you cannot take any criticism also speaks volumes since it shows that you lack humility perhaps one of the most important Christian traits.  No, if you are a Christian it is in name only, not in practice.

 

docdave on May 14, 2006 at 04:33 pm
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well ‘doc’, I have never criticized your family, never called you ‘slut, bitch, whore, Wahhabi watercarrier’, etc.  I doubt you’ve forgotten more than I know.  But I wouldn’t be surprised if you never knew much because most of what you do is name-call, not just me, but anyone who dares to disagree with you.

I’m learning to work around people like you and engage in conversation with the few who aren’t just nasty, mean-spirited little NeoCONS and will continue to.

diane on May 14, 2006 at 04:44 pm
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One last time. We are not"neo-cons". We were politically aware and active before you were born. Hell, Docdave was in the world before your mother knew what that smelly thing between her legs was for. Tote your lying teenybopper ass somewhere else. We are sick of your bullshit. Fuck off.

TwoHotel9 on May 14, 2006 at 05:37 pm
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2H9—It doesn’t do any good to try to communicate with the trolls.

The Whistler on May 14, 2006 at 05:46 pm
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In the words of the cavalry troop leader,"you have to hunt, I have to try." Waste is much like art, in the eyes of the beholder.

TwoHotel9 on May 14, 2006 at 05:49 pm
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Don Quixote

The Whistler on May 14, 2006 at 05:51 pm
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Whistler,

Amen to that!

Incidentally, I saw on another thread a reference to Nero Wolfe.  Are you an aficianado of the books themselves as well?

 

Bat One on May 14, 2006 at 05:54 pm
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Jerimiah Johnson.

TwoHotel9 on May 14, 2006 at 06:01 pm
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 We were politically aware and active before you were born. Hell, Docdave was in the world before your mother knew what that smelly thing between her legs was for. Tote your lying teenybopper ass somewhere else. We are sick of your bullshit. Fuck off.

You’re a foul-mouthed idiot who has absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

Go change the bedding in Room 23 and tell BatOne that FICA is a commonly used term for credit scoring in the real estate/lending industry.  He doesn’t even know THAT after ‘25 years of owning a mortgage company.’

I’ll stick around if nothing more than to let you know your opinion about me or anything else is absolutely meaningless to me.  Just stay out of my way and spray the room after you leave.

Your mama.

 

diane on May 14, 2006 at 06:21 pm
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See, gang? Just another powerless teenybopper. Screeching and crying. How sad and pathetic.

TwoHotel9 on May 14, 2006 at 06:30 pm
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One last time. We are not"neo-cons". We were politically aware and active before you were born. Hell, Docdave was in the world before your mother knew what that smelly thing between her legs was for. Tote your lying teenybopper ass somewhere else. We are sick of your bullshit. Fuck off.

 

TwoHotel9 on May 14, 2006 at 8:37 PM

You really are a loser 2h9, at least you are staying true to the topic.

realitybasedbob on May 15, 2006 at 06:09 am
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Secret History featuring yet another media appearance for Bessie and Ted.

abilify on May 15, 2006 at 11:03 am
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How sad and pathetic.  TwoHotel9 on May 14, 2006 at 9:30 PM


He sure nuf’ is, that HotelBoy.

diane on May 15, 2006 at 06:04 pm
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As well as the main critical mass ride theres now a north london version.

acyclovir on May 16, 2006 at 02:51 am
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