Bismarck Tribune: Your Gun Rights Aren’t Important

Completely ignoring the way so-called “gun free zones” have been exploited time and again by criminals looking to rack up a big body count (the “zones” are only “gun free” until a criminal comes along and victimizes those who pay attention to the law), the Bismarck Tribune suggests that cititzens’ gun rights aren’t important.

…allowing students to be permitted to carry concealed weapons isn’t the answer to preventing the mentally ill from inflicting tragedy. Nor is there evidence that arming students will aid in fewer deaths; it might even add to the carnage.
Because of school shootings over the years, campus security has improved steadily, even more rapidly since Virginia Tech. Our university campuses do not need student militia, a citizen posse or renegade self-deputized shoot-’em-up patrol efforts. On most campuses we have highly trained safety officers doing a very good job of protecting our students.
Bill Goetz, chancellor of the North Dakota University System, testified against the bill: “College campuses in this state, without guns, except those in the hands of trained law enforcement officers, now have less violent crime than almost any other place in the country,” Goetz said. “Let’s keep it that way.”

Directly contradicting Goetz’s testimony is the fact (conveniently left unmentioned by the Tribune that NDSU President Joe Chapman currently goes about in public escorted by an armed security guard. Most of us can’t afford a professional, trained security guard. I guess asking that we be allowed to exercise our 2nd amendment to protect ourselves is just too much to ask.
I guess only the political/social elite in this state deserve protection.
Regardless, it’s a bit annoying that the Bismarck Tribune editors feel that gun rights are some sort of privilege to be granted by the state when political leaders feel it’s appropriate. That may be the status quo, but perhaps the Tribune editors should spend a bit more time reviewing the actual text of the 2nd amendment which they, ironically enough, kick off their argument against run rights with:
“…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”
Shall not be infringed. Meaning that keeping and bearing arms is a right that cannot be taken away without due process. Meaning some sort of a conviction or other legal judgment of unfitness.
The Tribune mentions oft-invoked, and rather tortured, interpretation of the 2nd amendment as a “collective right” that only applies to state militias. But even that argument is null after the Supreme Court ruled in DC vs. Heller that the 2nd amendment is, in fact, an individual right.
Now, arrogant political leaders and ivory tower media types may want to think of gun rights as some arbitrary privilege to be allowed and tolerated only when it’s convenient to placate the rubes, but that’s just now how it is. Gun ownership is a right. If the state wants to deny that right, we need a better argument than “we don’t think it’s necessary.”

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  • Brent

    Our university campuses do not need student militia, a citizen posse or renegade self-deputized shoot-‘em-up patrol efforts. On most campuses we have highly trained safety officers doing a very good job of protecting our students.

    I don't know what BS Public Relations advertising piece The Tribune is reading from, but it certainly doesn't describe the University of North Dakota. I kind of doubt it describes any other university in ND, either.

    What a joke. But I guess writing that makes the editors at The Tribune "feel good"… so who cares about the truth!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    The North Dakota Constitution:

    Section 1. All individuals are by nature equally free and independent and have certain
    inalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty;
    acquiring,
    possessing and protecting property and reputation; pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness;
    and to keep and bear arms for the defense of their person, family, property, and the state, and for
    lawful hunting, recreational, and other lawful purposes, which shall not be infringed.

    We very clearly have a right to carry firearms on state owned property.

  • http://www.undsccc.com/ GregP

    Yet another article by those who listen to the typical propaganda that is proven time and time again to be false.

    I seriously cannot think of one expansion of gun rights that has directly lead to an increase of gun crime.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    IIRC in Minnesota just before they expanded the conceal cary the left was predicting doom and gloom and the opposite happened.

  • http://www.moszer.net/ Moszer

    We very clearly have a right to carry firearms on state owned property.

    This has me wondering if the constitutionality of laws restricting open carry in city limits and concealed carry in certain places (like universities) has ever been challenged. Sounds possible but expensive.

    Because of school shootings over the years, campus security has improved steadily, even more rapidly since Virginia Tech. Our university campuses do not need student militia, a citizen posse or renegade self-deputized shoot-‘em-up patrol efforts. On most campuses we have highly trained safety officers doing a very good job of protecting our students.

    Every time, without exception that same garbage argument is made. That somehow allowing people to conceal and carry will results in "Old West" shoot outs and trigger happy idiots running around. As we all know, it never pans out that way.

    There was actually a newspaper in Minnesota that admitted 5 years after the fact they were wrong and the whole state hadn't gone to hell after conceal and carry laws were passed.

    Anyone know what stance the Forum and Tribune took way back when the original ND conceal and carry laws were passed? Don't see them admitting they were wrong today if they took the stance I'm guessing.

  • bill-tb

    Might I suggest that all leftard morons put signs on their front lawns "no guns in this house". It will be much easier to find victims bodies that way.

  • welder4

    Ohio has concealed carry law and our crime rate is going lower as time passes , it's something that the gun control people want to ignore, it tears at the very heart of their beliefs and thinking.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Welder 4 that is because lefties and anti gun people don't understand the second ammendment and gun owners rights. The anti gun people are some of the most ignorant and miss informed people alive. They don't see a person with a CWP as a protector of freedom.

  • docdave

    The anti gun people are some of the most ignorant and miss informed people alive.

    They also are in fear of everything like chicken littles waiting for the sky to fall. Promoting fear is very important to the leftist agenda.

  • 11B40

    Greetings:

    I think most citizens would be surprised by the number of personnel security personnel government officials at all levels, have justified and hired to protect themselves. It's almost like their theme song is, "You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Guards You".

  • http://www.bismarckmandanblog.com/ clintf

    This is nothing new for the Bismarck Tribune; back in the late 80s or early 90s, they ran a story publishing the names of everybody in the Bismarck-Mandan area who possessed a current concealed weapons permit. What their point was I don't know, it seemed they were just being jackholes about it.

  • Thomas Nicolai

    Thanks for bringing light to this issue again Rob. I truly believe our legislators have more sense than the Tribune editors.

  • http://Array LJ

    The liberal elitists at the tribune should be concerned about their jobs. Writing poorly researched bullshit stories like this is one of the reasons that Lee Enterprise stock has recently traded at or near 50 cents per share. Lee Enterprises is very close to being de-listed from the New York stock exchange. Every time they try to sell me advertising I remind them why they will never get another dime from me. I don't support socialism or those that support socialism.

  • Nickotym

    Urgent:

    HB 1348 was badly amended, but we still need to ask for its passage so that some fixes can be done in the senate. They basically gutted it, but kept some good protections for students to keep guns in campus apartments and the associated parking spots, but not residence halls or on other parts of campus. The amendments were accepted this evening. The vote for final passage in the house will most likely be tomorrow. Please go to the thread at THR.org for info on how to contact representatives.

    I am in contact with representatives concerning fixes in the senate.

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