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It’s the way America is right now.  You have people getting arrested for voicing their displeasure in the way the government is working, so the authorities are just being “proactive.”

It would be a conspiracy charge I think.
C.

Just another brick in the nanny state wall that we have allowed to be built.

Did you all hear about the kidergarten mom with the toy gun? That was stupid too. Not quite a stupid as what Harry Reid said about the war. BUT stupid nonetheless.

The thought police are now here.  There was a song by “The Police” about 20 years ago called “the dream police” we are there now.  Armed citizens could have stopped this “madman” dead in his tracks.

Communism is evil

good post. a crime ain’t a crime until its a crime. i was talking the other day to someone about pre-emptive imprisonment based on psychological assessments and probabilities of one to commit crimes. it cannot and should not ever be done… yet we are on our way.

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Investigate, yes, arrest, no.  Probablilities, no.  Acts of terrorist, yes, weapons violations like sending to Iran and our enemies, yes, supporting with money and people, yes.  Thinking about it, no.  Writing thoughts in books or blogs, no. Inciting riot, insurrection and war against the USA, yes.

Communism is evil

Chief, “Dream Police” was by Cheap Trick.

Unfortunately, I can’t watch this video since I am at work (damn web filters) so I have no way of knowing exactly what this kid said, but let’s be reasonable.  This sounds like a terroristic threat.  Do we really need to wait for the kid to set off a pipe bomb or start shooting people before we consider him a criminal?  I am all for the first amendment and I will gladly go to war to protect everyone’s ability to believe and speak as they choose, but there should be and are reasonable limits like not being allowed to yell “fire” in a crowded theater.  If the kid had said, “I wish everyone in the school would drop dead,” then there would be no threat and therefore no crime.  If he said, “I’m going to make sure that everyone in the school dies and here is how I’m going to do it...,” then that is a clear threat and therefore a crime.

Bak:

You have people getting arrested for voicing their displeasure in the way the government is working

Care to name any of the people who have been arrested?  Or are you going to tell me that you can’t, because their names were classified the minute they were taken aboard the black helicopters?

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Well, the first person that comes to mind is the man in Colorado when he told Dick Cheney that the War in Iraq was “reprehensible.” He was arrested by the secret service.  Name:  Steven Howards

Nice enforcement of the constitution there, don’t ya think?

This Steven Howards?  One man, improperly arrested and then later released with all charges dropped.  Now he is suing the agent who arrested him.  Yep, it’s a damn police state alright.

Not that this excuses the secret service agent’s behavior but:

[He] said to the vice president, “I think your policies in Iraq are reprehensible,” or words to that effect, then walked on.

I wonder what those “words to that effect” were.  Could it be possible that Mr. Howards was a little less polite and civil in his dissent than portrayed?

I could care less if he said “F*ck Off.” How does telling the Vice-President that constitute assault?  Then when VP Cheney told Sen. Leahy to “F*ck Off”, didn’t he commit assault?  Nice having the thought police in charge.

How about Javed Iqbal?  Arrested because the company that he worked for HDTV Ltd. had him selling New York based customers access to al-Manar.  What was he arrested for?  Helping or aiding terrorists or terror groups.  Although a law that was signed by Ronald Reagan says that the President does not have the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or indirectly the transmission of information. 

So, we have the United States breaking it’s own laws to prohibit information coming into the US.  Even though the law says that it must be available.  Not cool at all.

bak72… I think you are trying to argue with people that are inclined to seriously consider your points. There are some truly freedom loving liberty protectors posting here.  Jared Iqbal sounds like one of the characters Pinto and Flounder were seated by at the Omega house during the opening scene of Animal House.  He was arrested for providing funding to a terrorist organization.  His case has attracted all kinds of attention from the media, ACLU, etc.  If he is not guilty under the law, it will be so found.  Don’t you think the US can criminalize the active and open support of terrorist orgs that make no secret of their desire to destroy us?…

Zsa Zsa,

I don’t understand why he is jail in the first place.  If you are going to charge him with providing funding to a terrorist organization, then you must charge the company that he was working for.  After all, they sent him out there to get people signed up.  The major question that I have is how is he providing funding to a terrorist organization?  Any money that he gets goes to HDTV Ltd. not Hezbollah.  Last I checked, HDTV Ltd. isn’t on the list of people funding terrorists.

I would like for the US to destroy the support for terrorist organizations that want to destroy us.  However, I want them to do it legally and do it with some common sense.  Neither of those two things are present in this case, in my opinion.